Life on other planets?

[Supersonic1425]

Just for a laugh, I want to see just how many people think there is life on other planets.

I am 99% sure there is. Think about it, our Solar System occupies a tiny space of our galaxy, which occupies a really tiny space in the universe. So when you think about it, out of all the planets in the universe, Earth can't be the only one with life.

A little theory I had was that other life on other planets would probably be really similar to ours. i.e. there could be humans on other planets.

There. Now I am 100% geek.

[ramitupurass]

what if there isnt any other life form. what if we are the first. no one else just us and the dark silence of endless space. if we survive and prosper, we are the ones that move into the galaxy and populate the new worlds with our technology.

maybe we are alone and this is our only chance.

[Coolleroy]

I am a moononite, Enigma.

[TheFoo]

But there is nothing in the bible about God creating another species...

[Blood_Shot]

i would like to believe there is something out there besides us and, being a lover of the movie Contact, i would like to think we will find them some time in the not-too-distant future. there is no ruling out the possiblity of life on other planets/galaxies/systems, but at the same time it is way to big to wrap our minds around. intelligent life? who knows

[asspennies]

Without a shadow of a doubt in my mind. There absolutely is life on other planets - life is probably pretty ubiquitious as long as the conditions are right.

Now, intelligent life, that's another story. It took a lot of freaky chances and strange occurances for us to develop, plus a nice big moon to keep us steady. I would not be shocked were we to eventually discover intelligent life elsewhere, and I would also not be shocked were we to never find it.

As for that finding it part, though, that's going to take some doing, seeing as how it's impossible to go faster than the speed of light. Right now, it's only science fiction - and it will likely remain that way for a very, very long time.

[Shadow]

There is life. Its probably only about as intelligent as we are or just microbes/plants, because if it were smarter than us, it would pay US a visit, wouldnt it?

[superm0nk]

Wait, let me get this straight.

asspennies = fat, rizzuh = skinny???? OMG!!!

[ShadyMilkman]

TheFoo wrote..
But there is nothing in the bible about God creating another species...The bible also fails to mention dinosaurs, and the rest of the planets in the solar system, but we all know that dinosaurs DID in fact exist and were wiped out due to a very large rock that had a date with the Earth around 65 million years ago (thank you carbon dating).

We also know that there are 8 other planets (plus a possible black hole (yes a possible black hole. there is one theory that out solar system used to be a binary star system, and the Sun is being orbited bit its older brother (or perhaps the sun is orbitting this black hole). What do you think causes all the meteors to go through our solar system)), byt the bible fails to mention those, too.

it also seems that according to the bible, the Earth is 4 thousand years old, when in actuallity it is closer to 4.5 billion years old.

the bible fails to mention A LOT of things

who wins now, your bible or my head?

[Dangki]

Space is so vast that there probably is life out there. There's nothing special about Earth so it doesn't seem impossible to me. It would be very odd if we were the only life forms in the entire universe.

Of course we may be the only ones but that would be just a coincidence. Maybe Earth is the first and only planet in the universes history to have life on it, maybe there's been other planets that have long since disapeared, maybe they'll be others long after we've disapeared.

I don't particulary believe there's intelligent people with flying saucers or whatever, maybe their so alien to us that we can't even comprehend their existence, maybe their nothing more than some fungus on the other side of the universe that is so far away we'll never ever meet them. Maybe maybe maybe baby.

MAYBE I'M A ALIEN!¬!¬!¬¬!!!!! OMFG!¬!¬¬

[Blood_Shot]

pwned.

there is a theory that i heard a while ago about the speed of gravity...ring any bells? supposedly if we could build some sort of platform/machine to actually block gravity, we could travel at speeds millions of times faster than the speed of light. the exaple was that you could go to the end of the known universe and back to earth again in less than two seconds.

keep in mind the speed of gravity is not the measure of how fast an object falls (-9.81 m/s), but rather the time it takes for one object's force to reach the other and begin a reaction. this theory intrigued me greatly and i got pretty excited about it, but i have long since misplaced the link to the website. im sure you can find plenty of material on google if you were inclined to look

[Dangki]

That sounds stupid. But maybe I just don't know what the hell you're talking about.

I could travel at speeds millions of times faster than light, I just don't feel like it right now though.

[ShadyMilkman]

Blood_Shot, I clicked on that link of yours (http://www.ldolphin.org/vanFlandern/gravityspeed.html). It's THIRD SENTENCE is incorrect.
This is because gravity, in contrast to light, has no detectable aberration or propagation delay for its action, even for cases (such as binary pulsars) where sources of gravity accelerate significantly during the light time from source to target By contrast, the finite propagation speed of light causes radiation pressure forces to have a non-radial component causing orbits to decay (the "Poynting-Robertson effect"); but gravity has no counterpart force proportional to v/c to first order.Gravity travels at the speed of light, thank you Einstein.

Do you even know what causes gravity? The mass of an object, its "weight". The more massive an object, the more gravity it produces, do the the Gravitational Constant of the Universe (thank you modern physics). That is why the gravity of the Earth is 6 times the gravity of Moon (yes, Moon, not THE Moon. To clear this little gramatical error up: say you were in a space craft, on your way to Earth. You would say, "I'm on my way to Earth." Now replace your destination with Moon. "I'm on my way to Moon." Why would you say this? Because "Moon" is a proper name. Moon is a [natural] satelite. Jupiter has 16 SATELITES, not 16 MOONS.). Because it is about 6 times as massive.

OK, I'm sorry, I kinda went off on a tangent.

[Blood_Shot]

i found an article by Tom Van Flandern, the guy who i first heard the theory from. he is considered a renegade scientis and has been excommunicated from the scientific world, or so i gathered from the radio broadcast. believe it or not, i dont care, but i was intrigued. (i was too lazy to actually read through it very far, but i figure its the same guy and he wouldnt refute his own theory)

and yes i know what gravity is. thanks for insulting my intelligence. i just didnt take the time to read that article either, i just found one on google. i apologize for being lazy, but its a flaw i cant seem to repair

[Evil_Penguin]

Blood_Shot wrote..
i found an article by Tom Van Flandern, the guy who i first heard the theory from. he is considered a renegade scientis and has been excommunicated from the scientific worldWell, since people aren't calling each other witches anymore, generally when someone is cut off from the science community it is because he/she is bat shit insane.

[Blood_Shot]

could be. i dont mean to defend him or anything, but it seemed from what i heard that the scientific community was afraid of his theories, not that they were wrong, just very radical. anyways its a cool theory.

[ShadyMilkman]

i apologize for being insultive

[Blood_Shot]

thank you, i was crying all morning. now i expect you to pay reparations for enslaving my people... and buy me a house in the Hamptons

[TheFoo]

"very radical" meaning they have no basis in reality. Spewing nonsense would get one banz0red!

[Shadow]

Radical? Nothing says that a radical theory is wrong, why, look at Copernicus! The sun being near the center of our solar system was a radical idea, but it was true.

[Blood_Shot]

just because it cant be proved yet doesnt mean it has no scientific basis. think about it: the material used to construct a platform able to physically block gravity would have to be so huge and so dense, that it would be virtually impossible (at this time) to conceive. a new theory is just that: some idea that a person believes could be proven, but maybe not with the technology at hand at this time.

[Evil_Penguin]

Shadow wrote..
Radical? Nothing says that a radical theory is wrong, why, look at Copernicus! The sun being near the center of our solar system was a radical idea, but it was true.Well, since people aren't calling each other witches anymore, generally when someone is cut off from the science community it is because he/she is bat shit insane.

[Storm_Shadow]

Evil_Penguin wrote..
Well, since people aren't calling each other witches anymore, generally when someone is cut off from the science community it is because he/she is bat shit insane.Quoted for truth.

[E-HOG]

but in its density wouldn't it create gravity itself and attract other things...

[Blood_Shot]

thats what i was thinking about too. it seems counter-intuitive....im not sure. reading the article would be my best answer. :-/

[Shadow]

Its like those crazy 30 year nerds living in their mother's attics that believe in String Theory, it just doesn't work.

[Harthorn]

i believe there r.. mm... humans.. yea.. =.=

[asspennies]

ShadyMilkman wrote.. It's THIRD SENTENCE is incorrect.Well...not really. The propogation of a gravitational field, for instance, if a new black hole was formed, moves at the speed of light, yes. What the article was referring to is the effect of that gravitational field - for instance, even if you are several light-minutes away from the sun, like we are on Earth, the gravitational effect is still instantaneous.

It's kind of a weird line to draw but it's generally accepted to be a function of curved space-time. The article disputes this and in my limited physics knowledge I don't have a reasonable argument against the article, but I don't think it ultimately matters that much. The appreciable differences in theory don't seem to be enough, to me, to justify some sort of FTL travel based on gravitational effects entirely.

Also, the proper name for Earth's moon is not "Moon," it's "Luna." A moon is a general term referring to natural satellites caught in a planet's gravitational field.

[snake plissken]

Asspennies came, he saw, he ate some barbeque, he conquered.

Then he had more barbeque. And a few cheeseburgers.

[Storm_Shadow]

snake plissken wrote..
Asspennies came, he saw, he ate some barbeque, he conquered.

Then he had more barbeque. And a few cheeseburgers.Die in a fire kthx.

[snake plissken]

Oh shut up with that damned line.