Punkbuster

[Iwantcable]

http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=announce.php

Read it and weep. :cry:

[hurricane04343]

Well...that sucks

[abort]

punkbuster = worst thing ever

[ihavenoname]

Ewwwwwwwwwwwww Punkbuster!!! :shock::shock::shock::shakehead:shakehead:shakehea d:

[Spik3d]

"Wah! I'd rather have no anti-cheat."

That's why killcam is good. If somebody seems fishy, watch the killcam. If you think it is, go spectator and '/record'. Simple as.

[Whiskey]

Punkbuster can certainly be a pain in the arse (I experienced it back in the COD:UO days, and there's a TON of people having trouble with it and Airborne right now, too), but at the very least it keeps out the n00b cheaters. No matter what you use, the hardcore guys are always going to be one step ahead.

..

I'm curious though, for those people in the know...other than DMW, what other well-known, or maybe not-so-well-known but still powerful, anti-cheat apps are out there?

[hurricane04343]

VAC for the steam games.

I was hoping that IW would make their own anti-cheat.

[Oli]

Punkbuster + CoD4 = Epic Fail + Lots of unhappy gamers

[abort]

VAC for the steam games.

I was hoping that IW would make their own anti-cheat.

yeah VAC is actually pretty good compared to punkbuster

punkbuster relies upon admins to do alot of the leg work and obviously people want to be playing their games on their server not trying to catch hackers all the time so im dissapointed that cod4 has gone for punkbuster

[cantina_fly]

Punkbuster is very good at detecting hacks it has a copy of. The hardcore cheaters writing their own cheats will always be there and always be a very small % of the overall community. The people paying for hacks get a small grace period to "cheat at will" but those hacks get submitted sooner rather then later, either by a disgruntled customer, or an inside source and then those guys get a rude awakening one day when they find all their pretty stats and unlocks are gone.

Besides, I think (hope) IW learned their lesson with CoD2 in regard to security. If you're thinking about cheat detections and prevention from day 1, then it shapes the way you code, what data you send to the client, what data you accept from the client, in what form, etc...

[Shellshock_1918]

I really dont see a problem with Punkbuster. Its never interfered with my gaming experience.

[Pickerd]

Punkbuster is very good at detecting hacks it has a copy of.

Perhaps 2 years ago. PB has gone thru drastic changes, and detects how cheats run, work, use system processes. Most of the time now, it doesnt need submitted cheats to detect one running, and its catching alot of private cheats as a result. Part of where those 2 little processes that now run when you play a pb game. pnkbstra.exe and pnkbstrb.exe.



Punkbuster + CoD4 = Epic Fail
there was 3000 servers in CoD2 b4 PB was added. Half went on strike as a protest to get PB. There is 10000 now. ;)

[hurricane04343]

Part of where those 2 little processes that now run when you play a pb game. pnkbstra.exe and pnkbstrb.exe.


Yea, at first when I saw those process I thought they were viruses :laugh:. But even if they do help, many people have problems with them. For example, when they first game out, no one knew what they were. A lot of people blocked them on their firewall or something. Then they get kicked by PB. I mean, there was no warning what-so-ever that they were going to add these process. And some people only received one client, usually only PBa, and not b. And they couldn't find where you could download them from. But now they have been around, there hasn't been too many problems.

[Miller[75thR]]

Punkbuster has definetly come a really long way.

[Iwantcable]

You know I used to have a laptop that couldn't play with PB on CoD or UO because PB would completely lock up the comp (couldn't even ctrl-alt-del).

That being said, if you've never had a problem with PB, you're only lucky person.

[cantina_fly]

Perhaps 2 years ago. PB has gone thru drastic changes, and detects how cheats run, work, use system processes. Most of the time now, it doesnt need submitted cheats to detect one running, and its catching alot of private cheats as a result. Part of where those 2 little processes that now run when you play a pb game. pnkbstra.exe and pnkbstrb.exe.

Ah, that's good to know. I followed the cheat community pretty closely back in the hay day of BF2 out of anthropological curiosity, since that was the biggest game at the time (ignoring perennial favorites like CS.) I watched long enough to realize PB was doing it's job back then. Good to know it's evolved right along with the cheaters.

I've seen first hand all the problems PB is causing with MoH:AB. I'm hoping one of the reasons IW took so long to comment on the inclusion of PB, was to make sure it could be implemented well.

[David Champion]

Better than nothing I guess...

Aren't they offering this through Steam as well?
Thought once you downloaded it thru Steam you have to use VAC... Double trouble for hackers if you ask me

[Sniper1432]

Better than nothing I guess...

VAC... Double trouble for hackers if you ask me

agreed^^

[Iwantcable]

You can get CoD2 on Steam, but it doesn't use VAC last time I checked :hmm:

[sharp65]

This is really disappointing news, unless Punkbuster can actually learn to stop the hacks people are using this could end up just like the Battlefield games.

[Retribate]

People make me laugh and can be so fickle:laugh:

An anti cheat is essential for a mp game to succeed in todays gaming world and yeah VAC seems to work ok.

I have to say i prefer PB as it gives admin more options and more control with their servers.

But whoever said rather no anticheat than pb needs to slap emselves round the face with a nice wet piece of live haddock:laugh:

At the end of the day you aint gonna please everyone and you never will. I was one of the strikers for cod2 PB and if pb wasnt released for cod2 the game would have died:nod:

[FPS[VT_NERD]]

Anyone who doesn't want PB is an idiot, end of discussion.

PB is so much better than having nothing at all. When this game comes out, please join some servers with PB off and see how long you want to play the game. I promise within a week or two of suspicious deaths you will give up and stop playing with PB off.

[paul503]

does anyone know how to fix this problem with punkbuster,since i downloaded patch 1.2 i keep getting kicked of by punkbuster giving the error a1394c2.009 error loading pbag

[iDash]

http://www.pbbans.com/mbi.php?action=6&game_id=27

62 already, Punkbusted!

[L3adcannon]

My head is gonna explode.
PB is better than no anti-cheat at all or an in-house one. IW will never waste time on making their own, and if they did, it would suck ***, just like VAC did.
Even now VAC is easy to beat. Just join the right irc and you`ll get tons of hack that beat VAC to the ground and take a piss on it.

I`ve never had any problems with PB, except in BF2 which just asks for troube no matter what you do or what setup you have. In all other games it has worked well and still does.

[ReaperOfsouls]

Ya dude, saying having no PB at all is just stupid.

At the very least it keeps the 12 year old kids and people who get frustrated when they die from doing a simple google search, downloading an aimbot, and then having at it.

The hardcore "bad guys" are always going to be able to beat the security software (In the consumer market that is), but it stops people who dont know in depth programming from easily getting passed security doing things they are not supposed to.