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imported_-=| Foley |=-
08-25-2006, 05:59 PM
Hey I was just wondering why everyone is so all about the POE2. No disrespect to the DEVs but what's the difference between point of existance and all the other high-quality modern combat mods. Sorry don't flame me i'm just trying to understand.

Ace101
08-25-2006, 06:01 PM
what other "high-quality modern combat mods" :D?

imported_The 13th Raptor
08-25-2006, 06:02 PM
It's the first total conversion? You cant compare the PRMM stuff with it.

Besides that the armies are different. :)

imported_-=| Foley |=-
08-25-2006, 06:02 PM
lol, well i'm loving Operation Peacekeeper, that is one good modern combat mod.

imported_The 13th Raptor
08-25-2006, 06:04 PM
As far as i know it is not a total conversion, is it?

imported_-=| Foley |=-
08-25-2006, 06:06 PM
which, OPK? OPK's a total conversion. I think. Maybe someone should define total conversion lol.

CensoredByGod
08-25-2006, 06:10 PM
have you seen the screens or the video?? I know a tester who say's it will end Vanilla or would if it weren't for the stats. I think it will be relatively unplayed because of all the point addicts and "1337" rankers (SB).

POE2 is a mod thats been around before and has a good rep, the modders seem to really think about what they can do to make the game as bad as* as possible while keeping it stable. Why dont you jump off the ranked servers and give it a shot? Dont like it, well thats what you have a delete for.;)

imported_The 13th Raptor
08-25-2006, 06:12 PM
which, OPK? OPK's a total conversion. I think. Maybe someone should define total conversion lol.

Total conversion = new everything.

So no sounds, skins, models, maps from the original.

cantfinddeletebutton
08-25-2006, 06:13 PM
i've never seen it before but all this hype about it made me download it... so if it is bad i'm blaming the totalbf2 community. you fate is on your hands.... lol

imported_Master Shake
08-25-2006, 06:15 PM
which, OPK? OPK's a total conversion. I think. Maybe someone should define total conversion lol.

Total conversion = once had a penis to no penis -- or -- no penis to penis...

Hey I was just wondering why everyone is so all about the POE2. No disrespect to the DEVs but what's the difference between point of existance and all the other high-quality modern combat mods. Sorry don't flame me i'm just trying to understand.


Simply put those of us that enjoyed the POE mod for BF1942 ar anticipating good things and fun times with POE2 fro BF2. Faster gameplay, new weapons, new gameplay mods, cool german accents, better sound, and generally a better balanced game with weapons that you will actually be able to kill someone with fairly quickly.

Operation Peace Keeper is excellent, I like its potential as another type of BF 2 mod option, but I think POE will offer larger scale battles and be a bit more vehicle based than Peace Keeper. I do think Peace keeper rocks though...

[ptg]chef_uk
08-25-2006, 06:21 PM
Hey I was just wondering why everyone is so all about the POE2. No disrespect to the DEVs but what's the difference between point of existance and all the other high-quality modern combat mods. Sorry don't flame me i'm just trying to understand.


The difference will be seen tomorrow night ;)

basically BF2 is so screwed as game, those that dont give a hoot about stats will not play BF2 after tomorrow night. Simple as that.

BIFF EXPLODER
08-25-2006, 07:14 PM
Chef_uk']The difference will be seen tomorrow night ;)

basically BF2 is so screwed as game, those that dont give a hoot about stats will not play BF2 after tomorrow night. Simple as that.

or only do it with clan members that dont have the mod (and i'm trying to make that impossible to happen by telling them all to get it hehe)

xXMMMSXx
08-25-2006, 07:15 PM
I'm at i28 so won't be able to play tomorrow but if POE2 is everything I hope (Especially Fallen) then it's mean an end to my ranked career.

RocketPunch
08-25-2006, 07:19 PM
have you seen the screens or the video?? I know a tester who say's it will end Vanilla or would if it weren't for the stats. I think it will be relatively unplayed because of all the point addicts and "1337" rankers (SB).

POE2 is a mod thats been around before and has a good rep, the modders seem to really think about what they can do to make the game as bad as* as possible while keeping it stable. Why dont you jump off the ranked servers and give it a shot? Dont like it, well thats what you have a delete for.;)

Thats actually a good thing.

The point/stat whores can have their BF2 and for all the players who play the game to have fun and win with tactics and teamwork, we have PoE2.

ACE_FIN1972
08-25-2006, 07:21 PM
Well by looking trailers and teasers, it seems my time among BF2 is faiding. I just hope weapons are better than current BF2 lotto guns. Nothing else makes me so angry than those situations where I'm shooting some static fellow with perfect aim and nothing happens. Most I hate L85A1 which I would like to like most.

Anyhow if this is good enough, bye bye buggy BF2.

[B1]Creasy79
08-25-2006, 07:21 PM
Should be Interesting to say the least.

jayhigh
08-25-2006, 07:22 PM
ill try PoE2...though I think the story sucks.
I mean Op Peacekeep has that same stuff and the same teams...

I wanted to see the apache, Black Shark, and all those cool vehicles..
Only 2 attack helos and 2 transport helos? only 2 only 4 jets??

granted there are alright jets....

Im waiting for Desert conflict...i like to see the F-16, F-14 and some real weapons...real american weapons... Hopefully PoE will throw in some american stuff in there future release...

As for this release..I think the maps will be great...I am looking forward to the sound effects. I am just dissappointed with the vehicle selections..

xXMMMSXx
08-25-2006, 07:22 PM
Should be Interesting to say the least.

My sentiments exactly. ;)

DrBloodmoney
08-25-2006, 07:46 PM
All I know is that the POE mod for BFV was much, much better than vanilla BFV.

It kicked ***.

I've been waiting for this for a long time.

It should be an indication of how much the community was anticipating its release by the number of servers up. Ours has been up since thursday night.

RocketPunch
08-25-2006, 08:29 PM
All I know is that the POE mod for BFV was much, much better than vanilla BFV.

It kicked ***.

I've been waiting for this for a long time.

It should be an indication of how much the community was anticipating its release by the number of servers up. Ours has been up since thursday night.

Yup! 40 are already up and running --> http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=PoE2&type=server&game=bf2

Sloi sauce
08-25-2006, 09:16 PM
That's a lot of POE2 servers! I'll download this sucker and try it ;-)

DesertFalcon
08-25-2006, 09:20 PM
its a total conversion meaning most of the vehicles,armys,weapons,etc are new along with added gameplay options and i think 14 new maps. plus more content will come soon.

i expect that by sunday morning most people will be able to play.

L3adcannon
08-25-2006, 09:35 PM
mod will rock, but yet they still left in the i-parachute-when-ever-the-f*ck-i-feel-like-it in, people can escape burining jets, helis like that way too easy. But thats judgig from the screens so dont know really

BIFF EXPLODER
08-25-2006, 09:42 PM
Im waiting for Desert conflict...i like to see the F-16, F-14 and some real weapons...real american weapons... Hopefully PoE will throw in some american stuff in there future release...


sorry but i really hope not... its so used that its getting old and annoying.

EliteOneOneSeven
08-25-2006, 09:49 PM
ill try PoE2...though I think the story sucks.
I mean Op Peacekeep has that same stuff and the same teams...

I wanted to see the apache, Black Shark, and all those cool vehicles..
Only 2 attack helos and 2 transport helos? only 2 only 4 jets??

granted there are alright jets....

Im waiting for Desert conflict...i like to see the F-16, F-14 and some real weapons...real american weapons... Hopefully PoE will throw in some american stuff in there future release...

As for this release..I think the maps will be great...I am looking forward to the sound effects. I am just dissappointed with the vehicle selections..

One, the F-14 is being replaced by the F-18 because of the cost of operations and aging technology. Two, the F-16 is to be replaced by the F-35. The real U.S. Army and Marines weapons are the M16A2 and M4 Commando which is playable in the normal BF2

THREE! It is an armed conflict between Ukraine and Germany, these two countries DO NOT have that advanced american technology (They are not like as rich as the U.S. Government who could have budgets over 260 billion dollars!!! Ukraine does not use ALL Russian weapons and aircraft. Germany uses the Eurocopter and NOT the Apache!

Mayflower
08-25-2006, 10:06 PM
POE2 will OWNN ! BUt Im looking forward for Desert Conflict, wchich will include new sounds for everything, might be closer to what you call a "total conversion". And of course, the popular Forgotten Hope.

I really like the Artillery system in POE2. This MOD will be awesome, I can feel it.

BF vietnam sucks, just had to say it

Blades
08-25-2006, 10:12 PM
btw, will this mod be affected by server crashes?

EliteOneOneSeven
08-25-2006, 10:12 PM
If POE lowers the # of server crashes...I will honor them

imported_The 13th Raptor
08-25-2006, 10:15 PM
One, the F-14 is being replaced by the F-18 because of the cost of operations and aging technology. Two, the F-16 is to be replaced by the F-35. The real U.S. Army and Marines weapons are the M16A2 and M4 Commando which is playable in the normal BF2

THREE! It is an armed conflict between Ukraine and Germany, these two countries DO NOT have that advanced american technology (They are not like as rich as the U.S. Government who could have budgets over 260 billion dollars!!! Ukraine does not use ALL Russian weapons and aircraft. Germany uses the Eurocopter and NOT the Apache!

I'm not going to try and educate you that most of the US hardware in use in these games (no, on the drawingboard does not count) is not all that or at all superior to Germany'shardware.. But i have to point out that it does not matter, its a point and click game, even if US tanks had a zillion more capabilities in real life.. you cant use them ingame.

EliteOneOneSeven
08-25-2006, 10:16 PM
Noted! But this game is based in real life hardware and what the country uses

18Zulukiller
08-25-2006, 10:25 PM
I just realy hope theres enough servers im getting it now of torrent and im connected to 1014 seeds and 1161 peers bloody hell thats over 2000 people at this moement not counting all the ones that already have it or the ones that are waiting on the none passworded version. PLEASE let there be enought servers (espeacially in the UK lol)

Digital-Boy
08-25-2006, 10:25 PM
Nothing else makes me so angry than those situations where I'm shooting some static fellow with perfect aim and nothing happens. Most I hate L85A1 which I would like to like most.

The classes in PoE look, for the most part, like those in BF2, but I too hope that the weapons get a bit more lethal.

imported_The 13th Raptor
08-25-2006, 10:25 PM
I just realy hope theres enough servers im getting it now of torrent and im connected to 1014 seeds and 1161 peers bloody hell thats over 2000 people at this moement not counting all the ones that already have it or the ones that are waiting on the none passworded version. PLEASE let there be enought servers (espeacially in the UK lol)


There are 40 up already.

Blades
08-25-2006, 10:27 PM
I just realy hope theres enough servers im getting it now of torrent and im connected to 1014 seeds and 1161 peers bloody hell thats over 2000 people at this moement not counting all the ones that already have it or the ones that are waiting on the none passworded version. PLEASE let there be enought servers (espeacially in the UK lol)
Last I heard, there are like over 100 servers. 170 something. Almost 200. Maybe even more than that. I looked at all the flags that tell you the country they are in, and they are ALL over the place. From US to Australia. Its there.

18Zulukiller
08-25-2006, 10:31 PM
Last I heard, there are like over 100 servers. 170 something. Almost 200. Maybe even more than that. I looked at all the flags that tell you the country they are in, and they are ALL over the place. From US to Australia. Its there.

I realy hopes so the mods are the main reason i baught bf2 in the first place.

Blades
08-25-2006, 10:39 PM
http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamevariant=poe2&type=variable&game=bf2&country=GB

http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamevariant=poe2&type=variable&game=bf2&country=NL

http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamevariant=poe2&type=variable&game=bf2&country=SE

http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamevariant=poe2&type=variable&game=bf2&country=FR

http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamevariant=poe2&type=variable&game=bf2&country=DE

http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamevariant=poe2&type=variable&game=bf2

See? There are plenty! 182 and a crapload in Europe.

Specifically, Im REALLY excited for this one: http://www.game-monitor.com/GameServer/70.86.115.100:16567/TacticalGamer.com_-_PoE2.html

Hăt©h
08-25-2006, 10:39 PM
If you didnt play the first one you missed out. The dev's have gone out of their way on this one so far. BF2 killed POE, lets hope its the other way around this time. Oh and unfortunately/ fortunately (stat padders) there will be a stat system in place eventually.

18Zulukiller
08-25-2006, 10:44 PM
http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamevariant=poe2&type=variable&game=bf2&country=GB

http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamevariant=poe2&type=variable&game=bf2&country=NL

http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamevariant=poe2&type=variable&game=bf2&country=SE

http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamevariant=poe2&type=variable&game=bf2&country=FR

http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamevariant=poe2&type=variable&game=bf2&country=DE

http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamevariant=poe2&type=variable&game=bf2

See? There are plenty! 182 and a crapload in Europe.

Specifically, Im REALLY excited for this one: http://www.game-monitor.com/GameServer/70.86.115.100:16567/TacticalGamer.com_-_PoE2.html

nice one for posting that lol im sure most of those clans used to run ranked servers but i dont think i see many of them anymore.

[MyIS]Spetsnaz
08-25-2006, 11:04 PM
I think it will be relatively unplayed because of all the point addicts and "1337" rankers (SB).

Negatory.

Think of the stat system as a spam filter of sorts :D

18Zulukiller
08-25-2006, 11:09 PM
Spetsnaz']Negatory.

Think of the stat system as a spam filter of sorts :D

lol i like your bannana

Canuck
08-25-2006, 11:11 PM
Simply put those of us that enjoyed the POE mod for BF1942

POE was a BFV mod :p

Mavrik347
08-25-2006, 11:24 PM
I'll tell you exactly why, all the other mods are yet to prove themself, PoE have already made a release in BFV which has proven themselves to be more than incredible. They can put things ingame DICE can't figure out, and thats right they TEST it, so when you get it, SHABOOM! NO bugs WHATSO EVER, the only patches that are ever needed are to stop the odd total tard from exploiting somthing the devs trust us not to.

Sorted.

Canuck
08-25-2006, 11:32 PM
The reason it is so popular is because POE also appeals directly to the competition community. The maps were made with 8v8 and 12v12 competition in mind. The weapons are accurate and reward skilled players. The gameplay appears to balanced, so no longer will matches be determined simply by who wins the chopper battle.

Earlier this week the POE mod team allowed some of the competition clans to play the mod. Many that have played the mod say they don't even want to play vanilla BF2 again. There is also a big push to have a POE2 division started in CAL asap.
When some of BF2s harshest and most hardcore players accept a mod/game this overwhelmingly it says alot about POE2.

Tonight at 9:30pm est, FragTV will be video broadcasting live, a POE2 scrim between Dynamic and Fadeight. Shoud be a blast to watch.

DarQu3
08-25-2006, 11:42 PM
Are there any sites that you can just download it, instead of torrent?

TheRealWolfgang
08-26-2006, 12:04 AM
lol i like your bannana

C'mon now, let's keep it clean here... :D

I never played PoE for BF:V since most of my buddies still played vanilla BF:V, but it looks like a fair lot of them will be giving PoE2 a go so I probably will as well. If it's as good as everyone says it is/is going to be then I'm sure I'll have a blast.

~Wolfgang

jayhigh
08-26-2006, 12:27 AM
One, the F-14 is being replaced by the F-18 because of the cost of operations and aging technology. Two, the F-16 is to be replaced by the F-35. The real U.S. Army and Marines weapons are the M16A2 and M4 Commando which is playable in the normal BF2

THREE! It is an armed conflict between Ukraine and Germany, these two countries DO NOT have that advanced american technology (They are not like as rich as the U.S. Government who could have budgets over 260 billion dollars!!! Ukraine does not use ALL Russian weapons and aircraft. Germany uses the Eurocopter and NOT the Apache!

You totally missed my point..
there Ukraine/Germany conflict is BORING...

give us an american theatre!..I want to see apaches and black sharks!

I say Desert Combat will take half of PoE's fan base when it comes out..

PoE is definitly a quality mod...I just think the theme and vehicles are lacking.

old sch00l
08-26-2006, 12:34 AM
We will see tomorrow, hey I'm looking forward to this as well as FH.

Is there a DC mod, thought they were consumed by Dice, please post link.

cantina_fly
08-26-2006, 12:57 AM
I looked at the manual earlier and I noticed:

The guns are hyper accurate compared to vanilla BF2. Range and skill will be the determining factors now, not "cone of fire."

No one has frag grenades? Alot of people have smoke, which is good IMO, but there should be SOME frag grenades out there.

AT gets mines! Been saying this for months.

LOTS of TV guided rockets on different vehicles. Armor whore's be warned.

Agreed that the points system will keep out all the people you probably don't want to play with anyway.

On the topic of a DL link, the torrent is great. I started it, went out to dinner, came back, it was done, AND already 20% uploaded back into the swarm. I'll leave it running all night like a lot of other people, so go ahead and start it now, even on a slow connection, you'll have it by the time they release the password tomorrow.

Even if you are a die hard stats whore, what else you gonna do till 1.4?

imported_HisChadness
08-26-2006, 12:58 AM
Everyone needs to check out the scrimmage between Team Dynamic and Fadeight. It will be shoutcasted live tonight at 9:30pm EST by FragTV.net. I've had the chance to play PoE2 since last night because of this match up and frankly, I will never touch vanilla BF2 again except for competition in CAL-M for season 4. PoE is what BF2 should have been from the begining.

EliteOneOneSeven
08-26-2006, 01:06 AM
Are there any sites that you can just download it, instead of torrent?

To tell you to truth, i find torrents wayyyy faster! And its a 1 gig file

imported_LastRelex
08-26-2006, 01:11 AM
I believe fragtv is doing something about PoE2 tonight at 9:30est so you may want to tune in.





Sorry if this was already posted, I only looked through the 1st page of posts.

old sch00l
08-26-2006, 01:12 AM
uTorrent was much faster BitTorrent, you need to set the speed manually to get the best out of it though.

EliteOneOneSeven
08-26-2006, 01:27 AM
You totally missed my point..
there Ukraine/Germany conflict is BORING...

give us an american theatre!..I want to see apaches and black sharks!

I say Desert Combat will take half of PoE's fan base when it comes out..

PoE is definitly a quality mod...I just think the theme and vehicles are lacking.


Ever saw their Artillery vehicle being mobile? it was awesome! If you want Apaches, go buy BF2 Special Forces.
I need storyline, that's how most game works

Canuck
08-26-2006, 01:27 AM
I say Desert Combat will take half of PoE's fan base when it comes out.


There is no Desert Combat mod. The Desert Combat team was invovled in making BF2. Your thinking about Desert Conflict.

I believe fragtv is doing something about PoE2 tonight at 9:30est so you may want to tune in.
.

I'm watching it now. It looks sweet.

BIFF EXPLODER
08-26-2006, 01:31 AM
You totally missed my point..
there Ukraine/Germany conflict is BORING...



boring? are you serious? the US stuff is the only thing thats boring these days, its in every game, allmost every mod and its allways about the same things and using the same weapons and vehicles...

The only thing not boring is trying out new stuff in different war theaters, and this is what its all about.

Isnt it enough for you ppl alredy having the US army in 99% of the war games?

Damn if i see a M1 tank in another game my head will blow up...

EliteOneOneSeven
08-26-2006, 01:34 AM
Me too! Right now, the POE team is trying to get us out of the U.S. thing!

Every single newspaper or CNN headline I read has something to do with the U.S. Military!

jayhigh
08-26-2006, 01:36 AM
Ever saw their Artillery vehicle being mobile? it was awesome! If you want Apaches, go buy BF2 Special Forces.
I need storyline, that's how most game works

I have special forces..If they only put the apache in vanilla.
As i mentioned before..
I am NOT saying to not have a storyline, I am saying PoE story line with Gernmans and Ukraine SUX!
Boring...

EliteOneOneSeven
08-26-2006, 01:39 AM
Go find yourself reading newspapers and maybe u will like it

And i find the BF2 Storyline boring...MEC cannot exist, it does not belong to a nation

Canuck
08-26-2006, 01:49 AM
Storyline? You guys got to be ****ting me.

EliteOneOneSeven
08-26-2006, 01:56 AM
Yes i am sh**ting you ok? You will never be able to sell a good game without a background story. Like Halo or Halo 2, it got 16 million dollars in profit cause most players want to play its campaign

CensoredByGod
08-26-2006, 01:58 AM
Spetsnaz']Negatory.

Think of the stat system as a spam filter of sorts :D


I both see and appreciate your point ;) Thats a side I failed to look at :)

Canuck
08-26-2006, 02:17 AM
They are playing on the map called The Fallen, a forest map.

imported_Donkey
08-26-2006, 02:30 AM
And the guy CTD when he was filming, that was the best part:laugh: :laugh:

Canuck
08-26-2006, 02:57 AM
Password has been released!!

xhailofgunfirex
08-26-2006, 05:36 AM
Well I just got done playing a couple rounds in the frag tv server, and overall im quite impressed with the game. The guns sound amazing! Shooting the guns feels great to, everything feels accurate. The only thing I can complain about is the amount of prone jumping med spammers are in the game. It mighta been cus alot of these guys are clan dudes, but **** is whack when ur prone single shotting a guy and hes just bunny hoppin tossin med packs in front of him till he gets to cover, then does prone jump **** till ur dead. Pretty much mainly played infantry maps, so I dont have to much impressions of the vehicles, id really like to have more impressions playing with normal average to above average bf2 people instead of the elite clan guys.

LBC|Jester
08-26-2006, 05:56 AM
This mod breathes new life into Battlefield 2! :)

I love it when people are saying they reinstalled just because they are going to play this. Be sure to drop by the server in my sig!

Oxy
08-26-2006, 06:00 AM
poe2=crap saying it won't dowell cuz of the stat system is a sad excuse at best.

imported_DANK
08-26-2006, 06:01 AM
Voice your opinion if POE2 should have its own section.
http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=92491

Personally I enjoyed it except for the IO mode which got a little repetitive.

Sanchez-B.G-
08-26-2006, 08:14 AM
poe2=crap saying it won't dowell cuz of the stat system is a sad excuse at best.

Stats are for retarded 10 year olds with ADHD. Thankfully all those stat whores will stick to BF2 and leave the mods alone....

Yay!!!

L3adcannon
08-26-2006, 02:12 PM
Yep, the only thing I`m pissed about is that they didn`t do anything to prone spamming/isnta-proning and bunnyhopping. Everything else is awsome

HaVOCK-ElEEt
08-26-2006, 02:33 PM
what other "high-quality modern combat mods" :D?

Are you being sarcastic bro? Or just one of the many POE butt kisssers areound here, lol.

Rising Conflicts, DCON, there are several other Modern Combat MODs comming out.

which, OPK? OPK's a total conversion. I think. Maybe someone should define total conversion lol.

OPK is a kick *** mod, and I like it more than POE2 so far. There are several Modern Combat MODs comming, ace101 is part of the staff here, and therefore on POEs side of every arguement, lol.

DCON, Rising Conflicts, hope they change the gameplay, cause POE2 seems like vanilla on speed to me, its already uninstalled on my system.