Goodbye EA/DICE/BF2

[DesertFalcon]

you used to be a good game time to move on to PoE2.

[HaVOCK-ElEEt]

Im waiting for the next MOD, one that changes gameplay from vanilla. POE wa not it, not by a long shot.

Please dont overhype the next MOD guys, just let it come out, lol. POE is a let down, in most areas IMO.

PS its the same engine, same gameplay, new facelift, not a new game by a longshot, lol.

What happened to all the great code work they were supposed to do? It feels like vanilla to me.

[Deez]

i hear ya, PoE2 is so much better then Regular BF2. Kinda sad isnt it?

[coco]

Im waiting for the next MOD, one that changes gameplay from vanilla. POE wa not it, not by a long shot.

Please dont overhype the next MOD guys, just let it come out, lol. POE is a let down, in most areas IMO.

PS its the same engine, same gameplay, new facelift, not a new game by a longshot, lol.

What happened to all the great code work they were supposed to do? It feels like vanilla to me.

You are some kind of spoilt idiot !

Its as good and better in most areas than vanilla.

[GeoffRowley]

Yeah, there was 'nuff hype saying that everyone was moving to PoE2 for sure, it turned out to be merely mediocre, and now they're on the next bandwagon. I mean, if you want to leave the BF2 community, do it, don't preach about it, just quietly leave. Seems impossible though, as everyone loves to have followers so they don't look stupid when its a flop

[Elbryan]

I don't understand what PoE2 differs from normal BF2..
The veichles have new textures, the weapons too .. stop ..
There's only "frontline" that is a new "gameplay" but for the rest is the same ..

Maybe poe2 don't crash so .. could be better than BF2 1.3 lol

[DesertFalcon]

frontline on a 16 man map will have more action then a 64 player map. they also added artilery vehicles and some very impresive maps. best of all its free. just because there is alot of hype does not mean it will suck this game has been in devolepment for over a year and this is the day.

btw nice sig

[HaVOCK-ElEEt]

You are some kind of spoilt idiot !

Its as good and better in most areas than vanilla.

I dont have any idea what "Spoilt" means, or how it would apply to my opinion.:confused:

I dont think it lived up to the hype at all, thats my opinion, and I will continue waiting for a MOD to change the crappy bf2 gameplay. PRMM has done the best job so far. OPK to me is just as good as POE has been, just nobody playing OPK, so ill keep waiting and playing other games for now.

You_were_killed, your sig quote is a real cowards point of view, I hope its there as a joke. Or are you a typical redneck?

[Mr Pmosh]

When 1.4 come out POE will have stat system, plus it have 3 game modes, conquest, nuke mode and frontier. Really is the best mod out for now.

[Nefarious]

PoE2 may be a great mod, but vanilla BF2 and SF are still alot of fun.:cool:

[imported_Zoolander]

So many of these mod-bandwagon-fanboys, its sickening.

Without EA/DICE/BF2 you would have no mods, so show some respect.

[xpnl]

I c enough changes to play this mod..
Example
STINGERS :)

[CensoredByGod]

I have to agree, the hype has not lived up. As a long time POE fan, Im a little dissapointed. OPK is actually a better mod, but as others state its unplayed. POE2 will be as well, in time. Guess Ill wait for a patch for all of em and then try again. Special Forces is the best "mod" for BF2 so far. Think Ill stick to that for awhile more.

[jayhigh]

Im waiting for the next MOD, one that changes gameplay from vanilla. POE wa not it, not by a long shot.

Please dont overhype the next MOD guys, just let it come out, lol. POE is a let down, in most areas IMO.

PS its the same engine, same gameplay, new facelift, not a new game by a longshot, lol.

What happened to all the great code work they were supposed to do? It feels like vanilla to me.


I would not say it was a let down, but it isnt all that either.
its an ok mod..hopefully the next release will have exciting toys. This German/ukranie theme is kind of boring...I feel like I am playing operation peacekeeper. My money is on Desert conflict...at least up until Crysis, Quake Wars ET, and armed assult are released.

[Dern Humpus]

Id be playing it if I could get it to install.

[zzDimaxx]

POE will become BF2 soon
reason N1
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/Dima33/Untitled-1-2.gif

[DesertFalcon]

PoE stats are diffrent tehn bf2 stats there will be no ranks or badges or medals the stats will just be how long you have played each map,kit,and vehicle. along with how many kills and deaths you have

[ConscriptVirus]

try playing poe2 for over 200 hours and tell me if u get bored of it...the only reason why poe2 seems so much better is cuz uve already asepnt alotof time on bf2

[Psychosomatic]

PoE stats are diffrent tehn bf2 stats there will be no ranks or badges or medals the stats will just be how long you have played each map,kit,and vehicle. along with how many kills and deaths you have

that sucks ! good mod though !

love the fallen map !

[Bird Killer]

try playing poe2 for over 200 hours and tell me if u get bored of it...the only reason why poe2 seems so much better is cuz uve already asepnt alotof time on bf2

Exactly, when Battlefield 2 Demo was first released, almost everybody prasied it as people here are doing for PoE right now. Once the novelty and sense of "new" decays, the message of "Doomsday for BF2" will be gone. For me, I'll be enjoying both Battlefield 2 and Point of Existence 2.

[Psychosomatic]

Exactly, when Battlefield 2 Demo was first released, almost everybody prasied it as people here are doing for PoE right now. Once the novelty and sense of "new" decays, the message of "Doomsday for BF2" will be gone. For me, I'll be enjoying both Battlefield 2 and Point of Existence 2.

me to m8, i love it all !

[tekkyy]

if it turns out good it'll be like DC and POE from BF1942
most'll be playing it instead of BF2

I think initially a lot of people'll play
mainly because of no strong antiair in BF2 so air units ruin the game round after round

MODs are made by the community
they are not usually unbalanced like BF2

sadly DC and POE did not win fans because it was balanced
BF1942 is quite balanced compared to BF2

I think MODs need details and balance to become the official or de facto popular "vanilla-replacing" MOD

POE2 is definitely looking like a movement now
all of a sudden 300+ servers lol

[Psychosomatic]

POE2 is unbalanced ! the german side have much better guns ! and when u join a round u can never get on that side because every 1 wants to have then guns !

remind u of anything ?

USMC & MEC ?

every 1 allways wants to be USMC because they have better guns !

[lun4tic]

POE2 is awwwwwwsome !!! great maps .. and everything.. havnt spotted anyglitch yet !! .. love it !!1

[zzDimaxx]

POE2 is unbalanced ! the german side have much better guns ! and when u join a round u can never get on that side because every 1 wants to have then guns !

remind u of anything ?

USMC & MEC ?

every 1 allways wants to be USMC because they have better guns !
USMC guns suck badly....
The best guns have MEC and PLA

[imported_The 13th Raptor]

POE2 is unbalanced ! the german side have much better guns ! and when u join a round u can never get on that side because every 1 wants to have then guns !

remind u of anything ?

USMC & MEC ?

every 1 allways wants to be USMC because they have better guns !

Bull, the guns are pretty much evenly matched, i've been playing all day, and its really not unbalanced in favor of the germans.. now the other way around..:rolleyes:

[tekkyy]

no USMC doens't just have better guns
and I don't really recall having difficulty getting onto USMC
unless MEC/PLA is losing when I joined the server

I think they are doing pretty well
the Germany/Ukraine mix is a bit like US/Iraq in DC

each side has their own advantages
and if they have this form now they'll probably go down that path
in 2.0 it could be a hugely popular mod

according my search on game-monitor.com

20060819
All 6378
Operation Peace Keeper (gamevariant=opk) 86
Project Reality (gamevariant=pr) 67
US Intervention (gamevariant=usi) 33
Allied Intent (gamevariant=aintent) 28
Nations at War (gamevariant=naw) 20
Desert Conflict (gamevariant=dcon) 11
BattleRacer2 (gamevariant=battleracer2) 11
21st Century Warfare (gamevariant=21cw) 8

20060827
All 6623
Point of Existence 2 (gamevariant=poe2) 365
Project Reality (gamevariant=pr) 54
Operation Peace Keeper (gamevariant=opk) 36
Allied Intent (gamevariant=aintent) 16
Nations at War (gamevariant=naw) 15
US Intervention (gamevariant=usi) 15
BattleRacer2 (gamevariant=battleracer2) 13
21st Century Warfare (gamevariant=21cw) 9
Desert Conflict (gamevariant=dcon) 9

My money is on Desert conflict...at least up until Crysis, Quake Wars ET, and armed assult are released.

Yeah. Just remake Desert Combat and you're set!
But don't forget some of those goodies from DCR + DCX which BF2 somehow forgot to inherit.
But DCON so far only released a CTF patch...

[DesertFalcon]

In real life the best guns are german manufactured so it does make sense. But the guns are just diffrent it depends on your fighting style

[Sir. tehdude]

if it turns out good it'll be like DC and POE from BF1942
most'll be playing it instead of BF2

I think initially a lot of people'll play
mainly because of no strong antiair in BF2 so air units ruin the game round after round

MODs are made by the community
they are not usually unbalanced like BF2

sadly DC and POE did not win fans because it was balanced
BF1942 is quite balanced compared to BF2

I think MODs need details and balance to become the official or de facto popular "vanilla-replacing" MOD

POE2 is definitely looking like a movement now
all of a sudden 300+ servers lol

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the original POE a BF:Vietnam Mod?? not 1942.....Regardless, the first one was a great mod....POE2 is already looking pretty good.

All this complaint about whether POE2 is as great as the hype is irrelavant. Once the novelty, as one poster put it, wears off the ones that really like the mod will still be there playing it and the rest will be off doing something else and not clogging up our servers....

I will still play BF2 Vanilla cuz I'm paying for a Ranked server but POE2 will be a great break from that.

Next up....Forgotten Hope 2 and Desert Conflict 2

[L3adcannon]

Dont worry, ranking/stats will destroy 50% of PoE2. Oh i can see it coming, stat-padding, getting kicked for having a gold medal/first place etc.

[Mr Pmosh]

BF2 have a lot of stat padders that havent been reset and you see people still play so... Stat padders never kill bf2 stat system, and POE will be the same.

[LahLahSr]

Let's face it...POE2 feel very much the same as BF2. The major components of the game - i.e. the elements that convey the gaming experience the most - are pretty much identical to BF2.

Any MOD is an opportunity to correct some of the basic mistakes that DICE did with BF2 - but the POE guys chose not to address them. Gameplay is largely the same - except it's harder to see the enemies - vehicles and infantry.

Don't get me wrong - I admire the ffort and commitment it takes to accomplish a major piece of work like that. The small arms models are even vastly superior to vanilla BF2.

However, POE2 doesn't differ enough from vaniall BF2 to really make it a new experience. It's still dominated by jumpers, divers and twitchers. Air-units still rule the game and stats are apparently on the way.

Personally I feel that POE2 is a "missed opportunity". Certainly one can't be anything but grateful that someone offers a bit of variation for free and for that they have my sincere gratitude. But I think they could have distinguished temselves more by putting some effort into correcting some major design-flaws in BF2 and they could have made a more unique mod by offering noticeably different gameplay.

As it is, it seems more like a another booster-pack for BF2.

Cheers :-)

[DogGunn]

BTW, PoE2 stats were taken out of the release build at the last minute.
They'll be back as soon as a patch is released.

[scott123]

Gave up on installing PoE2. 1st the stupid password, then some required map-pak :rolleyes: . No thanks , back to buggy CTD BF2.

[DogGunn]

Ahh, you needed to have both files from the zip extracted into the same folder. It's as easy as that.

[imported_Kold81]

I played this mod last night and a bulk of today. It has the same exact feel as OPK...almost feels like the same mod, people who have played both might agree. It is a fun mod but IMO mods like FH2 and even Pirates offer a bigger differnce in gameplay....which is what I look for in a game Modification....all in all its great and I will play it off and on for a long time.
Replace BF2?? Doubtfull.

[scott123]

Ahh, you needed to have both files from the zip extracted into the same folder. It's as easy as that.


Only one file, not two. Thanks, but I really don't feel like fussing with a non-ranked Mod thats getting Ho-Hum :|: user reviews. Hope all that stick with it, have fun!

[LBC|Jester]

So many of these mod-bandwagon-fanboys, its sickening.

Without EA/DICE/BF2 you would have no mods, so show some respect.


How can there be respect due when they can't even release working patches?

Sure they made BF2, but have f'ed everything else up since day number one.

[Graphic]

Even if this mod was absolutely horrible people would still be saying "Goodbye EA/DICE/BF2" because the type of people to do that are bandwagoners and this is a perfect excuse to create some anti-EA hoopla.

I'll never get tired of everyone pretending BF2 sucks and still playing daily. Once the newness wears off you'll miss Karkand and go back to normal.

[Feersum]

Even if this mod was absolutely horrible people would still be saying "Goodbye EA/DICE/BF2" because the type of people to do that are bandwagoners and this is a perfect excuse to create some anti-EA hoopla.

I'll never get tired of everyone pretending BF2 sucks and still playing daily. Once the newness wears off you'll miss Karkand and go back to normal.

I totally agree, so much negativity for product that started the mod community in the first place.

I think there are some incredible new game engines coming out that will bury the BF2 engine (Crytek2 and Unreal 3). But you can't deny that BF2 gameplay came out way before and had a positive impact in the gaming community.

[EyeofG]

you used to be a good game time to move on to PoE2.
It's still BF2
But with alot of diffenct stuff in there
but it's still the same old engine

[pYura]

POE2 >> vanillaBF2

lol how did I do that? :D

[Sir. tehdude]

Go ahead call me a bandwagoner....I DO NOT care. The POE2 mod has some neat new weapons, vehicles and some good NEW maps...Its a different look than the maps that we've seen for that last year from EA/Dice. I just don't see how people can complain its the more of the same stuff....were there ANY winter-based maps in anything EA/Dice has released so far?? I do not remember any that I had to PAY for. Bottom line you'd pay quite a bit to EA/Dice to get the same content.

I agree that the mod wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the game but...let's look at some numbers here: (please don't shoot me cuz I'm using US Dollars :) You guys across the pond can probably convert faster than me anyway)

Vanilla BF2 - 13 Maps original price approx $50
Special Forces - 8 maps orig price approx $40
Euro Forces - 3 maps price $10
Armoured Fury - 3 maps $10

POE2 - 13 maps ZERO Dollars

At least the Mod guys aren't charging for their content (which in the case of POE2 is better than some of the original publisher's content)

This whole forum just seems like its got alot of wanna-be experts that can't seem to find anything good in anything. There is nothing to be said that will make everybody happy and I know the flamers will pound me for saying all this but who cares??

POE2 is a welcome change to the BF2 community. Forget the hype, forget the expectations. Play it if you like it....don't play it if you hate it. Just means our server won't be full of the usual whiney-a$$ people that I run into constantly on the Ranked servers

Let the flames begin.....

[Graphic]

The content in PoE2 doesn't come near the professional grade work in BF2 and it's expansions. There's a reason this, and other mods for any game, are free (besides it being illegal to sell mods) - they're made by ametures and it shows. Special Forces costed $40 because it was made by professionals - and it shows. Bottom line you'd pay quite a bit to EA/Dice to get the same content, and for good reason. I mean come on. Wow, snow maps! Sand textures recolored white! This is way better than vBF2! Nevermind that the reload animations suck, some of the guns look ridiculous (Assault's G36, anyone?), the sound effects are crap, and the Ukranian voice-overs are just a copy of Spetsnaz only done by someone not a professional voice-actor.

Trying to say that you shouldn't buy Special Forces (for example) and instead get the free mod and it's just as good is a little disingenuous. It's not of the same standard as the official BF2 material and you know it. Like you said, play it if you like it, but don't start telling me it's better quality than the original. $50 vs. $0 and the original is still better bang for your buck.

[LahLahSr]

The price - or rather that it is free - has absolutely no bearing on the issue. Everyone who playes POE 2 has already shown they are willing to invest money in games.

It's all about the quality and the experience. It doesn't matter what a player should expect from a free mod - the only thing that matters is if the experience is good enough to keep you coming back to the mod. If the quality is not there, then players will stop playing it - simple as that.

Best way to get quality games is to communicate clearly about what and where a game can be improved. This is why there are forums for every game out there - whether they be mods or not.

If we lower our expectations and standards for games, just because they are free, we will never get that one good game that we can all return to after several years.

Best combined-arms military multiplayer experience out there is still Desert Combat - and the only place to get some decent CTF-action as well. BF2 and POE 2 (in it's present state) will not be such a game. 3 years from now they will both be all but forgotten. The reason is that none of these gamin experiences have that elusive quality that we are all looking for, but find hard to describe. It's something about balance and options, ease of use and believabiliy. It's something about giving the "six-hours-a-day"-gamers an opportunity to excel while offering the "6-hours-a-week"-players something entertaining and purposeful to do without being "pwned" every 5 seconds by some "death-from-above"-uberweapon that you can't fight.

The sooner the game-makers get these basic truths into their heads the more chance there is of making a classic like Desert Combat.

A new BF game, a handful of expansions/booster packs and a few more or less finished mods later, we are still waiting for someone to "get it".

Cheers :-)

[Psychosomatic]

WOW people realy have alot to say lol I cba to read all that lol

Vanilla BF2 - 13 Maps original price approx $50
Special Forces - 8 maps orig price approx $40
Euro Forces - 3 maps price $10
Armoured Fury - 3 maps $10

POE2 - 13 maps ZERO Dollars

Maybe they should get a job for working for EA/DICE then they would get payed lol i would if i was them !

[DesertFalcon]

things that PoE2 has that bf2 dosnt

german and ukranian armys
new weapons
13 new maps (thats alot considering vanila bf2 has less then 10 and more maps are soon to come)
ITS FREE<<---------------------------------------------
NO RANKS
More tickets meaning longer games and less load screens
Artilery requires skill
New theater of war
New Anti-Air kit
Pick-up weapons
2 new game modes

and the developers work for fun not for money and acctauly listen to the fanbase unlike DICE.

[$kelet0r]

BF2 >>>>> PoE2
yes the arrows are going the right way, I feel very sorry for the OPK team
They made the exact same game first and got no recognition for it :(

[Forest]

Of course its going to be somewhat similar to bf2. Its a modern combat mod made on the bf2 engine! Honestly what did you guys expect? Until an unordinary mod like BF:Pirates or something from a totally different time period its in a way going to feel like bf2. Besides, the weapons are way more acurate and deadly, pick-up kits have been added, 2 new gamemodes, no uav or scan, and you all say its the same infantry combat?

All this, plus 13 maps full of freshly made statics all a playground for the plethra of armor and air vehicles.

Not to mention its .1, and you've been playing it for only a day. If anyone over-hyped it it was yourself.

[=[WOW]=Sisko]

Of course its going to be somewhat similar to bf2. Its a modern combat mod made on the bf2 engine! Honestly what did you guys expect? Until an unordinary mod like BF:Pirates or something from a totally different time period its in a way going to feel like bf2. Besides, the weapons are way more acurate and deadly, pick-up kits have been added, 2 new gamemodes, no uav or scan, and you all say its the same infantry combat?

All this, plus 13 maps full of freshly made statics all a playground for the plethra of armor and air vehicles.

Not to mention its .1, and you've been playing it for only a day. If anyone over-hyped it it was yourself.

damn straight.

I enjoyed playing bf2 for a good while but then the crappy things about the game really started to get at me. Mainly the commander. Arty UAV.

Take those out already makes a HUGH difference. adding player controled arty adds even MORE of a difference. and LOL at ppl saying the "airpower" is still over powered in this mod, anyone with at least a little skill wont find themselves killed by airpower that often at all.

LOL again at ppl saying its the very same as OPK. Its as just as much like opk as DC is like bf2.

Its like ppl just looked at screenshots and not played it at all.

Another thing the POE2 has done is brought back the armer battles.

All bf2's armer is for is for noobs who are crap at inf warfare to hide in.

POE2 brings back the massive armer battles and does it with style.

fantastic maps, fantastic modelers aswell.

This is a great mod, and I wont be playing bf2 anymore as I'm ****ing sick of being killed by commanders arty or coz theres a UAV over my head.

[Sir. tehdude]

=Sisko']damn straight.

I enjoyed playing bf2 for a good while but then the crappy things about the game really started to get at me. Mainly the commander. Arty UAV.

Take those out already makes a HUGH difference. adding player controled arty adds even MORE of a difference. and LOL at ppl saying the "airpower" is still over powered in this mod, anyone with at least a little skill wont find themselves killed by airpower that often at all.

LOL again at ppl saying its the very same as OPK. Its as just as much like opk as DC is like bf2.

Its like ppl just looked at screenshots and not played it at all.

Another thing the POE2 has done is brought back the armer battles.

All bf2's armer is for is for noobs who are crap at inf warfare to hide in.

POE2 brings back the massive armer battles and does it with style.

fantastic maps, fantastic modelers aswell.

This is a great mod, and I wont be playing bf2 anymore as I'm ****ing sick of being killed by commanders arty or coz theres a UAV over my head.

Very good points....it also does not matter to me if anybody else hates POE2...I like it enough that it I will continue to play it for some time. I liked POE1 which was the only good thing that ever happened with Battlefield Vietnam.

DC was a Great mod...I've always liked it as well...Got started flying seriously in BF1942 because of it.

I encourage the ones that hate POE2 to NOT play it...more room for us who do...

[Canuck]

PS its the same engine, same gameplay, new facelift, not a new game by a longshot, lol.
.

uhmmm, what were you expecting? Doom 4 on a Quake engine??:confused:

[DesertFalcon]

=Sisko']damn straight.

I enjoyed playing bf2 for a good while but then the crappy things about the game really started to get at me. Mainly the commander. Arty UAV.

Take those out already makes a HUGH difference. adding player controled arty adds even MORE of a difference. and LOL at ppl saying the "airpower" is still over powered in this mod, anyone with at least a little skill wont find themselves killed by airpower that often at all.

LOL again at ppl saying its the very same as OPK. Its as just as much like opk as DC is like bf2.

Its like ppl just looked at screenshots and not played it at all.

Another thing the POE2 has done is brought back the armer battles.

All bf2's armer is for is for noobs who are crap at inf warfare to hide in.

POE2 brings back the massive armer battles and does it with style.

fantastic maps, fantastic modelers aswell.

This is a great mod, and I wont be playing bf2 anymore as I'm ****ing sick of being killed by commanders arty or coz theres a UAV over my head.

agreed

[Sir. tehdude]

.... but don't start telling me it's better quality than the original. $50 vs. $0 and the original is still better bang for your buck.

Missed the point totally....You're another one I encourage NOT to play POE2....

[Fumang]

yawn..........if you don't like it keep on playing bf2 or 2142 the next UBER game for you

stop whining about how ****ty poe2 is and go make your own stinking mod whiners

[HaVOCK-ElEEt]

uhmmm, what were you expecting? Doom 4 on a Quake engine??:confused:

i was expecting what I have been hearing for sooo long about this MOD. That it was going to feel, sound, and act different from BF2, giving the fans what they have been looking for. I am going to keep playing this MOD till another great one comes out, because I dont like BF2 much anymore.

The game looks different, but it still feels like bf2 gameplay to me. Everything is faster, and the guns are high powered, but it feels like a facelift to me, just a really big one.

PRMM doesnt feel like bf2 at all to me, they changed the game into something else. I hope other mods that come along do the same.

one example, No heat seakers, dumbfire missiles only. If you never did any dogfighting in DC, then I feel sorry for you, cause bf2 blows.

[Canuck]

If you never did any dogfighting in DC, then I feel sorry for you, cause bf2 blows.

I agree with you on that BF2 does blow.
POE2 plays more like DC with in regards to the arty, AA, tanks, recoil, non-guided AT, no UAV or satellites, etc. Which is probably why so many former '42 players love this mod.

As for Project Reality, I love their maps, but I don't care for the push maps. I play competitively and push maps are not meant for competition.
Aside from the maps, PRMM is BF2 without a HUD and a 30+ second spawn. I just don't feel immersed in the game, the way I did in DC and FH.

[LahLahSr]

If you don't like reading forums that encourage discussion of games, why don't you go make your own stinking forums where you can discuss with your own kind, the merits of posting opinions about games in forums. (you may have to read that twice).

*yawn*

[tekkyy]

Its only the first major release right?
Why are you people already doubting its chance of becoming a classic like DesertCombat?

I would have preferred the AT shoulder missile to be guided though.
O at least offer dual mode (guided for accuracy, unguided and silent launch for stealth mode)

Aside from the maps, PRMM is BF2 without a HUD and a 30+ second spawn. I just don't feel immersed in the game, the way I did in DC and FH.
Its a mini mod. You are supposed to play it for the realism changes I think.
Although the realism changes did change gameplay quite a bit.

[Psychosomatic]

can some 1 tell me what the taccom is used for ? apart from just making a bleep ?

[ThunderPimp]

can some 1 tell me what the taccom is used for ? apart from just making a bleep ?

Its to call in arty.

Alot of us here aren't bandwagon types at all. We've been play BF and it's mods from day one (Codename Eagle), and are very disappointed at the direction the BF series has taken.

I haven't played BF2 in over a month because Dice Canada has patched it into a steaming pile of crap. I bought BF2 for it's mods that I knew were moving to it's engine like POE and FH.

POE was the best mod out for BFV, and is currently the best one out for BF2. It is far better than BF2 in my opinion.

Features Germany vs. Ukraine

It has:

all new vehicles and skins
all new weapons and skins
new static map objects
new grass sprites that look excellent
better weapons accuarcy system with recoil
more powerful weapons
AA that actually does damage to things
thirteen new maps (beautifully done)
new camo
new voices (german)
all new sounds
no commander UAV/Sat/Arty/Car drops
player controlled mobile arty
snow
an online manual: http://www.pointofexistence.com/pns/PN/html/

Did I mention it's free?

There are too many things to list. It's not anything like BF2 really except at the very core of gameplay. It's a new game on the BF2 engine.

Warning: This mod isn't for whiney noobs who like stats and things to be easy. If you are a whiney noob please continue to play ranked BF2.

[Psychosomatic]

ok thanks m8 !

[DrunkenPirate]

Its to call in arty.Warning: This mod isn't for whiney noobs who like stats and things to be easy. If you are a whiney noob please continue to play ranked BF2.
Best suggestion so far..

[Angeldust.[n]]

standard bf2 vanilla has some serious faults, and im not talking about the obvoius bugs either.

POE2 addresses those faults, and it makes bf2 how it should have been in the 1st place.

im happy :)

[Psychosomatic]

will there be POE ranked servers ? Project realtiy MOD has ranked servers ! so why cant POE2 ?

[Canuck]

Project realtiy MOD has ranked servers !

It does not.

[imported_{RR}MaizeMyDay]

I would not say it was a let down, but it isnt all that either.
its an ok mod..hopefully the next release will have exciting toys. This German/ukranie theme is kind of boring...I feel like I am playing operation peacekeeper. My money is on Desert conflict...at least up until Crysis, Quake Wars ET, and armed assult are released.

Actually, I'm quite impressed with this mod. Now I know why the download was 1GB...a lot of custom stuff under the hood. My clan played all weekend and now there are over 500 servers. If that doesn't spell successs I don't know what does. Great job PoE team!

PS Thanks for bring back normal artillary and a lot of other cool stuff!!!

[Sir. tehdude]

will there be POE ranked servers ? Project realtiy MOD has ranked servers ! so why cant POE2 ?

Because Ranking is one of the things that alot of peep hate about Vanilla BF2. No Ranks.....no stat padding whores.....

Didn't have Ranks in BF1942 and it did just fine....forget the Ranks....just play the game. POE2 is a great mod

whiners go play something else and leave us alone....

[Sir. somecallmeTim]

I spent some time with the mod this weekend, not as much as I would have liked, but enough to get a good impression. Things that I noticed:
> The level of detail on the maps is outstanding. From the new object to how the terrain is layed out. Make for an enjoyable experience.
> The maps are well thought out. From a tactical standpoint, there's a lot of room for encouraging working as a team and for some longer rounds. I like the variety of the maps - some are vehicle intensive, some have aircraft, some don't, and on some you are really going to have to co-ordinate your Artillery
> The "auto damage" for going into the enemies uncapable base is a nice touch - let them other team at least get out of the base first, then kill them
> Considering it's a "free" mod, the bang for the buck value is very high - I have three systems that I"ve spent a good chunk of cash to get them all on line playing BF2, so mods save our family money and extend our playing options. Look at it this way, BF2 + SF + 2x BF2 Deluxe + AF x 3... that's over $200 in software. When EA releases a "booster pack", you spend $10, I spend $30. Mods are a good thing - some we like, some we don't.

It it perfect? No.
Will it "replace BF2"? No
Will it be a nice change of pace, stat-whore free? Yes
Is it a nice mod for those of us that stats are meaningless? Yes
Is the the most beautiful thing ever? Nice, but no
Is it the "pwn n00bs" mod? Not likely

Our server saw a good deal of activity over the weekend, 20 people at most. We'll probably drop the size from 64 to 32 as that seems to be the size that plays best. I'm looking forward to many hours of playing PoE2 - a lot of work went into this, and the efforst are appreciated. I'm still going to play vanilla BF2 and SF (not paying for a ranked server for nothing ... ) since I do find those enjoyable as well - but it's nice to have Mods like PoE2 getting released so we can futher our use of the BF2 engine.

Like it's been said, if you don't care for it, that's totally okay if you don't care for it. Don't play it. Those of us that like it will play it. I don't particulary care for Karkland, except in Sandbox but I don't go around bashing it - I just leave the server and find another one. It is in the rotation on our ranked server because people do like it. Same reason we run Sandbox, AirMAPS, and PoE2 on our mod servers, people like them. :)

Peace,
Tim

[KillerTV]

Jesus christ some of you bloody sicken me

"Waa it's no different to BF2"

"Waa silly mappack, how'm I supposed to know you have to unzip :rolleyes:"

"Waa I'm crap and can't go round the back to shoot tanks".

The PoE team has put an incredible amount of work into the game, sure, the base engine hasn't been changed, but that's impossible. They've created just as many art assets, some may argue more, as EA did, in a fraction of the time, with a fraction of the team, for free. AND they did it at a higher quality, PoE 2 has some of the better models and textures I've seen and I've worked in 3d myself.

It sickens me how you can say "It didn't live up to my expectations or the hype". Well I've got news for you, at any point, 10% of the people playing BF2, are playing the PoE 2 mod, (Check game-monitor.com for proof, it's where I got my figures) that's up to around 3000 at any one time, and how long has the mod been out? Bugger all time that's what. And to be honest, how bloody dare you have expectations about what is essentially a gift, you don't get a present for free at Christmas and tell the person who bought it "Sorry, it didn't live up to my expectations, it was a bit ****." Well that's what you're essentially doing here.

Honestly, people who are complaining about that, thank god you don't like it, because the last thing a mod needs is the tons of whiney stupid people who play the vanilla game.

Love the mod, keep up the good work.

[Sir. tehdude]

...The level of detail on the maps is outstanding. From the new object to how the terrain is layed out. Make for an enjoyable experience....

And they are NOT just recolored desert maps as one uninformed poster put it earlier....

....And to be honest, how bloody dare you have expectations about what is essentially a gift, you don't get a present for free at Christmas and tell the person who bought it "Sorry, it didn't live up to my expectations, it was a bit ****." Well that's what you're essentially doing here......

But that well put point escapes most of the whiners here....I'd hate to be in their families :)

...Our server saw a good deal of activity over the weekend, 20 people at most. We'll probably drop the size from 64 to 32 as that seems to be the size that plays best. I'm looking forward to many hours of playing PoE2 - a lot of work went into this, and the efforst are appreciated. I'm still going to play vanilla BF2 and SF (not paying for a ranked server for nothing ... ) since I do find those enjoyable as well - but it's nice to have Mods like PoE2 getting released so we can futher our use of the BF2 engine.

Like it's been said, if you don't care for it, that's totally okay if you don't care for it. Don't play it. Those of us that like it will play it. I don't particulary care for Karkland, except in Sandbox but I don't go around bashing it - I just leave the server and find another one. It is in the rotation on our ranked server because people do like it. Same reason we run Sandbox, AirMAPS, and PoE2 on our mod servers, people like them. :)

Peace,
Tim

So if this Mod is as bad (or at least as ordinary) as many would have us believe then why is this so?? The SpokLAN Flying Circus servers play mods we know are fun and the activity on the servers tells the tale.

And its not just us....obviously other people think the mod is playable or there wouldn't be the huge number of POE2 servers out there....

Thanks POE2 team for the great mod and keep it up....

P.S. have not heard too much about any gameplay problems. You KNOW EA/Dice can't say that :)

[Scinto]

you used to be a good game time to move on to PoE2.

you'll be back..

i did however like running thru the foresty map with a silenced spec-ops weapon

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