.50 CAL Sniper rifle...holy ****!!!

[{Sn][per}Farva]

Now thats what I call sniping. Thats everything the M95 should have been. I guess its good theres only one per side or everyone would have one. Theres a sense of satisfaction when with a 10 round clip, if you take your time can get 10 kills. And choppers...I had one hovering over a flag trying to take it, it was smoking a bit...didn't even take all 10 shots to bring it down.

Find one on Battle of Sambir, and since the off road cars can actually go off road and drive up mountains, climb up to the highest one you can find overlooking an enemy flag and have some fun!

[ebag]

but you have to be laying down to fire it

[Desertfox]

are they 1shot kill on infantry?

[ebag]

yeah it is

[DrunkenPirate]

but you have to be laying down to fire it
If you fired one of those in real life standing u you would dislocate yer shoulder at least.

[The Crazy Idiot]

I recall the m82 had recoil reducing features a nd that barret claimed the recoil was about that much of a 12 gauge.

[imported_Master Shake]

It brings back the days of sniping withthe .50 cal in DC/DCX mods for BF1942....I am in my glory..

[Dern Humpus]

If you fired one of those in real life standing u you would dislocate yer shoulder at least.


It is the weight of the gun that keeps you from firing it standing.

[sgtsam150892]

thats what i hate about it. u got to lye down in the middle of a battle and shoot. that difficult when u dont have a good view. i had this guy yesterday coming from behind me with the 50 cal standing and trying to shoot me. i turned arround and shot him with my pistol.
I only go on the German side cuz of the sniper on that side. i hate the other one on the Ukfraine side and dont like the 50 cal cuz u have to lye down all the time. It is good when u are sneaking arround and go to a good hiding place where u got a good view of everything even when ur lying down. but other than that its not that usefull imo

[Sir. somecallmeTim]

I remember when I found the kit "oooo, what's THIS?" so I swapped kits and started playing around. Took a minute to figure out the laying down bit, but wow... I suck as a sniper, so this kit is not for me - but for those of you that are, have some fun. You sure won't be "in" combat with this kit.

Peace,
Tim

[Cobra7892]

It brings back the days of sniping withthe .50 cal in DC/DCX mods for BF1942....I am in my glory..

If you were a good sniper you wouldn't need a .50 cal. BOOM, Headshot!:D L96 RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[imported_Master Shake]

Ok, for those of you that never played the mods from 1942 with the .50 cal, you have to look at it as a new kit and learn how to make it useful. I had 45 kills and 6 deaths with the .50 cal on the Ukrain side just lying next to a tree defending a flag that was quite a distance away. Thats how ist supposed to be used, not in th middle of the action like the sniper rifles in vanilla.

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

I have always been unhappy with Snipers in general, probably because I dont use them.

In the DC days (not that there gone really), I was one of the people who couldnt stand snipers, simply because the abttles were so intense, and you needed every team members help to win a good fight. Snipers just hide and get good ratios, but almost never help tip the scales of a battle.

The best part about snipers, is sneaking up and knifing them from behind. The tall grass has given you guys some good cover in POE2, but watch your back, Im sharpening my knife right now.

[imported_Master Shake]

If you were a good sniper you wouldn't need a .50 cal. BOOM, Headshot!:D L96 RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The diffrence was you could snipe from several hundred meteres away, but you had to account for bullet drop so you had to aim a half a body length or more above your target. It took some skill at that range, esspecially when they were a moving target. There was an L96,M24, and Draganov in those mods too.....and I was equally capable with them. The .50 just gave you allot more range and allot more realism.

I have always been unhappy with Snipers in general, probably because I dont use them.

In the DC days (not that there gone really), I was one of the people who couldnt stand snipers, simply because the abttles were so intense, and you needed every team members help to win a good fight. Snipers just hide and get good ratios, but almost never help tip the scales of a battle.

The best part about snipers, is sneaking up and knifing them from behind. The tall grass has given you guys some good cover in POE2, but watch your back, Im sharpening my knife right now.


When you play on teamspeak (like back in the DC days) or in squads and you use a sniper to support and spot for a squad they are very effective. My friends and I often employ a sniper to help pick off and weaken enemies when we are defending or capping a flag, it takes coordination though and when you have all these stat-whores that just want to run and gun and throw ammo and med. packs (talk about no skill) its hard to use a sniper effectivly. We have it down pretty good though...

[pYura]

Yeah I sniped one guy with .50cal while he was repairing his tank.... his body fly away about 5 meters :laugh:

[EyeofG]

Where can you find it?
I only found three of the hindin' weapons (the SVD slier, Pazer anti-tank rocket, and another diff anti-tank rocket ( don't remeber name)

[Phil Fresh]

Hehe the AMRs are beautiful. Both of them. I like to play kind of laid back, so having that and the other brilliant pick-up kits fits me perfectly. Gives me a nice breather from the more generic kits. Although I kind of wish the AMR kits had TACCOM and the binoculars. Guess that would be too much.

[Iconix]

Wheres the Binos for the 50 cals?
I havent found hardly f the hiding spots, Someone make a overhead view and point them out lol

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

Yeah Master Shake, you have to know what your doing for it to be effective.

In a Torunament, its never used, for a good reason. Against a pubbing team, maybe it can help. I never stand still for even a second, so snipers never get me (almost never).

I to this day have never seen a sniper used in a CAL or TWL battle. Has anyone out there seen this used effectively in a ladder tournament?

Im just curious, would be interesting so see used in that setting, correctly.

[imported_Master Shake]

Yeah Master Shake, you have to know what your doing for it to be effective.

In a Torunament, its never used, for a good reason. Against a pubbing team, maybe it can help. I never stand still for even a second, so snipers never get me (almost never).

I to this day have never seen a sniper used in a CAL or TWL battle. Has anyone out there seen this used effectively in a ladder tournament?

Im just curious, would be interesting so see used in that setting, correctly.

In the right situation and strategy my friends and I have used them in a CAL and TWL battle, mostly use the class for spotting and recon purposes and to try and to cause a distraction. As far as keeping moving it takes allot of practice, but it really does not matter to me if your moving or standing still in some ways I prefer a moving target because you don't get frustrated when you aiming at a guy and he moves at the last minute. Also moving targets are fairly predictable and once you figure out where there going you just aim to a spot (and whole in the fence, or corner) and wait for them to run though your line of fire.

Plus when were talking about the .50 cal in POE it drops people easy and is very effective.

[Manke]

that G82 is just awesome, much better then the other one because you have 10 bullets instead of 3/4(dunno exact number).

I was sniping in the Carpathian mountains map a few minutes ago and i got a 15 kill streak :).

Try this hidingspot, if U use it well the enemy wont know your there because you shoot their brains out befor they know what hit em :p(screenshot)

And shot a Jeep to pieces who was trying to get the flag. (screenshot)

I know my grafics aint verry good, but i have better things to spend money on.

[Roger Smith]

its an anti material rifle.

[[K]Oneill]

=D thats everything i wanted to hear... a powerfull sniper rifle at last!

I play has a sniper 99% of the time since i bought BF2.
Since im not playing like most of the snipers are, Jumping around , running, standing, firing, running, jumping, etc, i bet i'll get used to the .50 cal only shooting when proning =D

Damn I really wanna try that sniper out =]

[Heavy552 AWG]

Yes the big sniper rifle is one skot kills. Im pleased.

None of that bang bang bang bang crap that only reveals the sniper's location.

The faint Boom of that rifle fired by a teammates indicates an opponet just died. =)

[gx.]

If you fired one of those in real life standing u you would dislocate yer shoulder at least. and in PoE2 you can also fire it from a parachute. :D

[ebag]

If you fired one of those in real life standing u you would dislocate yer shoulder at least.
i wish not

[EyeofG]

The only thing that sucks about it is that you have to be prone to shoot it

[imported_Master Shake]

The only thing that sucks about it is that you have to be prone to shoot it

Please explain why it "sucks" that you have to be prone to shoot this weapon? What is the big deal?

[imported_DKP-Orkan]

If you fired one of those in real life standing u you would dislocate yer shoulder at least.

Astonishing to see the lack of intelligence displayed in regard to real world weapons in the gaming community.

See that HUGE muzzle brake on the end of the rifle?

Most .50cal's don't kick any harder than a pump 12ga. with a 3 1/2" F shot in the tube. I've shot many many rifles... and there is not one that I've shot that will "dislocate your shoulder" upon firing it.

Not to mention the fact that anyone that knows anything about physics... would know that you get kicked LESS when you are standing up because your body moves with the impact. When you are proned out, or over sandbags on the shooting bench... you get kicked HARDER because you are more static... harder to move.

Try to excercise a little thought before you compare your mod to real life.

[Donkey]

but you have to be laying down to fire it

Right because they are basing the rifle and the whole game off of the real world....

I would like to see you accurately fire that weapon free standing.... You would probably miss by a few hundred feet and land on your *** in the process....

[imported_DKP-Orkan]

Right because they are basing the rifle and the whole game off of the real world....

I would like to see you accurately fire that weapon free standing.... You would probably miss by a few hundred feet and land on your *** in the process....

Yet another that thinks it would kick so hard as to knock you over. Please get a clue.

One poster has a HINT of a brain by stating that it is not the recoil... but the WEIGHT of the weapon that makes it difficult to fire standing up. A big man can do it... but it isnt easy supporting a 40+lb, front heavy load with one arm. It is also the WEIGHT that reduces recoil.

How about if we leave the "real world" comparisons to those of us that have real world experience?

[Alm()nd J()y]

It brings back the days of sniping withthe .50 cal in DC/DCX mods for BF1942....I am in my glory..

Yup :).

[Donkey]

Yet another that thinks it would kick so hard as to knock you over. Please get a clue.

One poster has a HINT of a brain by stating that it is not the recoil... but the WEIGHT of the weapon that makes it difficult to fire standing up. A big man can do it... but it isnt easy supporting a 40+lb, front heavy load with one arm. It is also the WEIGHT that reduces recoil.

How about if we leave the "real world" comparisons to those of us that have real world experience?


Ok jackass where is your real world experience????

The weight is what I first insinuated with the free standing accuracy...now the recoil is going to be felt a lot more free standing because of the weight....

While the a light fifty is a short recoil rifle that uses a recoiling barrel this does not mean it has NO recoil felt by the user...What I was alluding to is that that small amount of recoil coupled with the heavy weight and long length of the weapon would more than likely cause you to lose balance and fall...

Bottom line you would not want to shoot this gun standing PERIOD...

-edit

Also the weapon empty is about 28.4 lbs and it is not the weight that reduces recoil.... it is the short recoil design and the recoiling barrel that reduces recoil...god I hate idiots

[imported_Master Shake]

Astonishing to see the lack of intelligence displayed in regard to real world weapons in the gaming community.

See that HUGE muzzle brake on the end of the rifle?

Most .50cal's don't kick any harder than a pump 12ga. with a 3 1/2" F shot in the tube. I've shot many many rifles... and there is not one that I've shot that will "dislocate your shoulder" upon firing it.

Not to mention the fact that anyone that knows anything about physics... would know that you get kicked LESS when you are standing up because your body moves with the impact. When you are proned out, or over sandbags on the shooting bench... you get kicked HARDER because you are more static... harder to move.

Try to excercise a little thought before you compare your mod to real life.

Yea really, don't you devs know that the gun weighs 14.75 kilograms (32.5 lbs.) then slap in another 5lbs of ammo and this quote from wikipedia tells me that according to those that use this rifle "M82 is much too uncomfortable to be carried on a sling due to its excessive length and heavy weight. It is usually carried in a special carry soft or hard case." So why are we not running around with these cases??? and even though virtually every picture on the internet you find of any military using this weapon or similar .50 cal sniper rifles are using it while they are laying on the ground does not mean that it should be that way in the mod!! We should be able to carry 2 .50 cals at a time and have health and ammo packs, with the most sprint in the game,...and the .50 cal should be able to easily take out tanks and planes in the air?

In conclusion you better "recognize" before you take 14 months out of your life working hours at a time modding a game so complete strangers can have a bigger expiriance free of charge for a game that is about to dump them cold turkey in October........what weer you "POE2" devs thinking anyway......only able to shoot a .50 cal prone.....bah....Ive have shot 4 .50 cals at one time before, welcome to the real world......UGH.....(all sarcasm)

[Donkey]

Yea really, don't you devs know that the gun weighs 14.75 kilograms (32.5 lbs.)

It weighs 12.9 kg empty the 14.75 number you posted Im assuming woiuld be of a fully loadad version....

[imported_Master Shake]

It weighs 12.9 kg empty the 14.75 number you posted Im assuming woiuld be of a fully loadad version....

2 versions one is 14.75 kg the other is 12.9 kg the 14.75 just sounded more dramatic.............note both weights down the page on the link provided (also see the army man is lying down?? why does he not stand up?)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_M82A1

[Snipe_King_06]

That's amazing man, i love sniping too.

[imported_Master Shake]

2 versions one is 14.75 kg the other is 12.9 kg the 14.75 just sounded more dramatic.............note both weights down the page on the link provided (also see the army man is lying down?? why does he not stand up?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M82_rifle

Link is acting funny,.sorry??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_M82A1

[Donkey]

Just dont confuse a M90/95 with an M82

Look you can buy your very own :)

http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifles/rifles_82A1.htm

[ConscriptVirus]

If you fired one of those in real life standing u you would dislocate yer shoulder at least.

depends how u fire it..and long time no see drunkenpirate :P

[kilroy357]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJZKSF3kRZQ

You can fire one standing, it just kicks hard.

[EyeofG]

Please explain why it "sucks" that you have to be prone to shoot this weapon? What is the big deal?
It's not that bad, it's just that I will like it to be used when standing and crouch

[kilroy357]

Here is a guy crouching with a M107, which is similar to the G82
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtzk8HNPzHY&NR

The NTW-20 is different, it fires the 14.5mm or the 20mm, so I would guess alot more recoil.

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm

[imported_Master Shake]

Of coarse it can be fired standing, generally it would be shoulder mounted for taking out hard targets, but I think the POE guys needed to balance the .50 so they make you lie down.

[Donkey]

It really depends on the model of 50 we are talking about....

They are dramatically different...

But yeah they dont have any recoil....LOL...Someone was forgetting about physics...hehehe

[imported_routakiila]

do we next get whining, that donkey kongs barrels aren't oak. or at least they should weight much more or then else... no full grown gorilla could throw a REAL oak barrel. Stupid ****s. thats what we get when cousins meet.

[Donkey]

do we next get whining, that donkey kongs barrels aren't oak. or at least they should weight much more or then else... no full grown gorilla could throw a REAL oak barrel. Stupid ****s. thats what we get when cousins meet.

WTF are you talking about....

I take it you came from what happens when your last statment occurs...

ON TOPIC....

I personally like the fact that they made you have to go prone to fire this weapon...I also like the fact they are trying to make things more based on their real world counter parts....

[imported_DKP-Orkan]

Ok jackass where is your real world experience????

The weight is what I first insinuated with the free standing accuracy...now the recoil is going to be felt a lot more free standing because of the weight....

While the a light fifty is a short recoil rifle that uses a recoiling barrel this does not mean it has NO recoil felt by the user...What I was alluding to is that that small amount of recoil coupled with the heavy weight and long length of the weapon would more than likely cause you to lose balance and fall...

Bottom line you would not want to shoot this gun standing PERIOD...

-edit

Also the weapon empty is about 28.4 lbs and it is not the weight that reduces recoil.... it is the short recoil design and the recoiling barrel that reduces recoil...god I hate idiots

Did you fail physics class? Weight is also a major contributing factor to recoil reduction. Most bolt guns that one would take deer hunting weigh in at around 8lbs. Give or take. I've shot .270 synthetics that kick way harder than any .50 cal I've shot. Biggest rifle I fired was a 20mm BOLT ACTION. No semi-auto is going to even approach that level of recoil, and even THAT wasn't that bad due to the muzzle brake.

So a rifle weighing in a 30+lbs is going to exhibit a HELL of a lot less felt recoil than one weighing 20lbs firing the same cartridge. DUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRR. Need me to spell it out some more for you?

You want recoil? You really want to feel some "kick?" Shoulder a double barrel .10 guage with two monster goose loads in the barrel and a hard-wood stock and squeeze off both triggers. Then you'll have an idea of recoil. My grandfather has one of these and I did exactly that when I was 15yrs old. Bloodied my nose and gave me a good ringing for a while.

The other thing you havnt a clue about... is that most bigger rifles have less "felt" recoil due to the fact they use slower burning powders. You get a "shove" more so than a "kick." Typical though... you know NOTHING and have zero real world experience and you intend to argue that you obviously are a expert on the subject.

My real world experience lies in the fact that I've been shooting guns since I was five years old. I go hunting SOMETHING or other almost every other day. Have you fired a .50 cal? Have you fired ANY rifle?

God forbid I come in with some actual expertise and correct someone making an absolutely IDIOTIC claim. All the more reason I rarely post on these forums anymore.

Get a CLUE!

[Venomous]

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[Jap1987]

^^^^Good stuff. You know what your talking about thats for sure. Im not sure I would be stupid enough to fire both rounds out of a 10gauge but to each his own. I dont know why so many people fail to at least research a little before they post.

[Ghostrun]

The anti material rifles in the game,regardless of what names they have applied to them , are designed after the as yet released Barrett XM109 Anti-Material rifle, featuring explosive ammunition designed for light vehicles.

The base model weapon used to create the XM109 was the Barrett M82.

The reason it is still currently in development, is that and I quote

As a side note, the Barrett M82A1 rifle was used in 2002 as a platform for the experimental OSW (Objective Sniper Weapon) prototype. This weapon was fitted with a shorter barrel of 25 mm caliber, and fired low-velocity high explosive shells developed for the 25 mm OCSW automatic grenade launcher. The experimental OSW showed an increased effectiveness against various targets but the recoil was beyond human limitations. This weapon, also known as the Barrett 'Payload Rifle', has now been designated the XM109.

[Factor_Z]

thats what i hate about it. u got to lye down in the middle of a battle and shoot. that difficult when u dont have a good view.
I only go on the German side cuz of the sniper on that side. i hate the other one on the Ukfraine side and dont like the 50 cal cuz u have to lye down all the time. It is good when u are sneaking arround and go to a good hiding place where u got a good view of everything even when ur lying down. but other than that its not that usefull imo

Umm... Isn't that... umm... what snipers actually do? Lie down and get cover? I never heard of them giving covering fire... Maybe "u" don't actually get the concept? Cuz u have to lye down and all?

[Anaryl]

Did you fail physics class? Weight is also a major contributing factor to recoil reduction. Most bolt guns that one would take deer hunting weigh in at around 8lbs. Give or take. I've shot .270 synthetics that kick way harder than any .50 cal I've shot. Biggest rifle I fired was a 20mm BOLT ACTION. No semi-auto is going to even approach that level of recoil, and even THAT wasn't that bad due to the muzzle brake.

So a rifle weighing in a 30+lbs is going to exhibit a HELL of a lot less felt recoil than one weighing 20lbs firing the same cartridge. DUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRR. Need me to spell it out some more for you?

You want recoil? You really want to feel some "kick?" Shoulder a double barrel .10 guage with two monster goose loads in the barrel and a hard-wood stock and squeeze off both triggers. Then you'll have an idea of recoil. My grandfather has one of these and I did exactly that when I was 15yrs old. Bloodied my nose and gave me a good ringing for a while.

The other thing you havnt a clue about... is that most bigger rifles have less "felt" recoil due to the fact they use slower burning powders. You get a "shove" more so than a "kick." Typical though... you know NOTHING and have zero real world experience and you intend to argue that you obviously are a expert on the subject.

My real world experience lies in the fact that I've been shooting guns since I was five years old. I go hunting SOMETHING or other almost every other day. Have you fired a .50 cal? Have you fired ANY rifle?

God forbid I come in with some actual expertise and correct someone making an absolutely IDIOTIC claim. All the more reason I rarely post on these forums anymore.

Get a CLUE!

ZOMG! I cant believe no one recognised your expertise as evidenced by your poor manners and condescension - heaven forfend that no one recognises your genius when you're just taking a shot at them for no reason.
Honestly how anal do you have to be.

[Deathdealer247]

He's right on with the powder. I broke open a .50 round one time using the headlight fixture on the front slope of the M1A1. We then spread it on the ground and lit it.

It was as if i was burning black powder like a scene out of the western movies except of course there is alot less smoke. If i remeber correctly, much of the larger caliber ammo needs to use slower burn as to build the pressure in the brass casing evenly. If you ever broke open a M829A1 as the Aft-cap broke off while your loader was trying to extract the nitro-cellulose casing out of the breach, you would also see bags of what looks like black powder.

Most of these big rifles has a recoil damper along with a muzzle compensator. If you remember your physic class, its all about speed. Thus, if you spread the recoil out, you get a fraction of the original felt recoil. This is the same principle as the airbag in your car.

The NTW-20 uses a combination of 2 dampers to reduce the resultant felt recoil. If my memory serves me, the M82 uses a huge spring instead.

The 30 lb beast is probably at the very edge of man portable. Not so much in weight, but dimension. I've carried the M240 (and the M60)with about 300+ of rounds of ammo for long dismounted operation lasting weeks. It's very very uncomfortable simply because the weight distribution on a MG tends to be front heavy (as most of the mass sits in front of the grip).

By comparisons the M82 is about 25%-35% longer than your average GPMG. Oh, you can lug it around, just dont expect to use it before you get to the hide site.

[imported_DKP-Orkan]

ZOMG! I cant believe no one recognised your expertise as evidenced by your poor manners and condescension - heaven forfend that no one recognises your genius when you're just taking a shot at them for no reason.
Honestly how anal do you have to be.

When it comes to something I'm very passionate about... pretty anal.
When it comes to morons propogating idiotic information on the internet... very anal.

I didn't take a shot at them for no reason. The reason is clear: They are attempting to talk intelligently about a topic they have NO IDEA about. I refuse to let them do it without resistance.

Then there are people like you, whom are neither right nor wrong... that step in and say "stop picking on the poor retard... he didn't know" in an attempt to insult me for being right.

Saying something that is WRONG carries consequences. But I'm sure they appreciate you holding their hand while receiving a verbal tongue lashing about just how wrong they were. Was that your good deed for the day?

Saying something that is WRONG carries consequences. Real men admit when they are wrong, and attempt to LEARN about the subject, so as not to be wrong next time.

Grow up.

[Heavy552 AWG]

Try 155 mm sniper action by Artillery and company, just need a satelitte view =)