Expectations?

[FallenMorgan]

What are your expectations for Frontlines? I know that because the team formerly made Desert Conflict, it may have some elements of the battlefield system, such as kits and such

One thing I really hope it has is a singleplayer campaign and real good multiplayer like the BF series

What do you guys think?

[ThQp]

well a singleplayer is something that they had mentioned in their interview. As long as they dont over-do things with multiplayer (constant points tracking) it will be great.

[Wolf 2K7]

im hoping it will have A good singleplayer and for multiplayer i think it wont have kits but customization a bit like Bf2142 but more like Rainbow Six Vegas.

[FallenMorgan]

well a singleplayer is something that they had mentioned in their interview. As long as they dont over-do things with multiplayer (constant points tracking) it will be great.

I hope they have unlocks and points, that would be awsome, then there will be insentive to PLAY multiplayer, but they should have advantages for teamwork

[ThQp]

well there is always insentive to play multiplayer, you arent playing against bots. the problem we saw with BF2 and 2142 was ow the hacker went nuts over unlocks and ranks. if they can keep that out of the game it would be great. or if they could, at least let you gain unlocks from singleplayer

[Wolf 2K7]

Morgan;176977']I hope they have unlocks and points, that would be awsome, then there will be insentive to PLAY multiplayer, but they should have advantages for teamwork



i'd like unlocks but the whole rank thing seems to have ruined the teamwork in BF series. it seems you have unlocks, ranks etc. and no teamwork or just teamwork with no unlocks and ranks.

[Nefarious]

The one thing that Battlefield 2 skipped on was potential. BF2 had alot of potential to be better then it currently is/was, and unfortuntely DICE didnt hit the mark even with numerous patches. Now, I know little about Kaos Studies, even though I was a big fan of the original Desert Combat mod for Battlefield 1942, but I think its safe to assume that Frontlines, may just hit that potentioal that DICE missed.

[ThQp]

The one thing that Battlefield 2 skipped on was potential. BF2 had alot of potential to be better then it currently is/was, and unfortuntely DICE didnt hit the mark even with numerous patches. Now, I know little about Kaos Studies, even though I was a big fan of the original Desert Combat mod for Battlefield 1942, but I think its safe to assume that Frontlines, may just hit that potentioal that DICE missed.


well they have seen how bf2 has fallen apart so i hope they sidestep that. what are your opinions on multiplayer, oh lord of graphics?

[FallenMorgan]

The one thing that Battlefield 2 skipped on was potential. BF2 had alot of potential to be better then it currently is/was, and unfortuntely DICE didnt hit the mark even with numerous patches. Now, I know little about Kaos Studies, even though I was a big fan of the original Desert Combat mod for Battlefield 1942, but I think its safe to assume that Frontlines, may just hit that potentioal that DICE missed.

Yeah theres a ton of unfinished stuff in it

And also, it says multiplayer will be somewhat objective based, encouraging teamwork, and also, it had "RPG elements" suggesting unlocks and upgrades

[Nefarious]

well they have seen how bf2 has fallen apart so i hope they sidestep that. what are your opinions on multiplayer, oh lord of graphics?

lol, its not those graphics, its Photoshop/GIMP/PaintShop graphics, you know artistery. All I know is if they follow the formula they did for Desert Combat....well were going to have the best game of all time.:cool:

[Wolf 2K7]

Morgan;176988']Yeah theres a ton of unfinished stuff in it

And also, it says multiplayer will be somewhat objective based, encouraging teamwork, and also, it had "RPG elements" suggesting unlocks and upgrades

you mean like the reality mod for BF2 (i think that was it) where you have to capture a certain point and you cant go anywhere else?

but this game reminds me of Ghost recon advanced warfighter. maybe they might add a few of the good things from that into frontlines.

[ThQp]

well put. well im done on this topic. constant stats tracking could very well ruin this. but the singleplayer looks good.

[FallenMorgan]

lol, its not those graphics, its Photoshop/GIMP/PaintShop graphics, you know artistery. All I know is if they follow the formula they did for Desert Combat....well were going to have the best game of all time.:cool:

Yeah I'll bet money the graphics don't look like how they do in the screenshots, theyre all photoshopped and glowey and cool

[Wheelman56]

There will be unlocks that will be unlocked during the round, kind of like Quake Wars. After you choose which class you want (assault, heavy assault, sniper, antitank, special ops, close combat) you choose which role you want (drone tech, airstrike, ground tech, countermeasures). There are 3 tiers to each role, and you get better stuff as you go up in the tiers.

[Wolf 2K7]

thats a good way to get around hackers etc. i think you should be rewarded extra points and things for teamwork aswell. this should encourage teamwork and less of the lone wolf style.

[Rogue Warrior]

My expectations are: That this game is going to be the best damn game ever made. Frank has invested a lot of time an work into this, and it is going to be very, very, successful for Frank and his team

[ThQp]

well theres good info. may i see a link as to where you found that?

[FallenMorgan]

thats a good way to get around hackers etc. i think you should be rewarded extra points and things for teamwork aswell. this should encourage teamwork and less of the lone wolf style.

Yeah I am so sick of in BF2142 when because of lack of teamwork, one guy with like a mech can kill a bunch of people because of no teamwork

[Wheelman56]

well theres good info. may i see a link as to where you found that?

March 2007 issue of Games for Windows magazine.

9 pages of Frontlines goodness. :D

[ThQp]

thanks

[{RR}SinisterCaesarSalad]

From everything I've read about, not to mention talked to fdelise about, this game will do very well. The planned mod support will be a breath of fresh air to us modders who have gotten less than stellar results from EA.

PS. Can the OP edit the post. You said Desert Conflict instead of Desert Combat. We catch enough flak for that on TBF2, we don't need it here as well. LOL

[FallenMorgan]

From everything I've read about, not to mention talked to fdelise about, this game will do very well. The planned mod support will be a breath of fresh air to us modders who have gotten less than stellar results from EA.

PS. Can the OP edit the post. You said Desert Conflict instead of Desert Combat. We catch enough flak for that on TBF2, we don't need it here as well. LOL

Speaking of which I hope they make an external map editor like BF2 and not one like in GRAW

[The Pro]

And a map editor that ships when the game is released.
That would be great.

[Sir. AAK625]

If it has a rank and point system I'm going to cry. Then the entire game will just be about ranks and ribbon .jpgs, just like the Battlefields.

[Dr_Zyklon]

yeah, my style of gaming is battlefield style so i hope it its at least similar to that system

[karzac]

i think stats has ruined mods and are too expensive for the servers, no no no to stat trackin!

[FallenMorgan]

i think stats has ruined mods and are too expensive for the servers, no no no to stat trackin!

If there were no stat tracking I wouldn't play the game alot

[Riggz]

Looks interesting...I'll have to keep my eye on this game..

[Nefarious]

Morgan;177035']If there were no stat tracking I wouldn't play the game alot

I have a question for you then. Theres two games for you to choose between. One of them is, say, Battlefield 4 and the other is Call of Duty 4. BF4 has an indepth ranking/tracking system, but its not that good, not alot of fun. CoD4 on the other hand is alot of fun, indepth gameplay, mod support, the whole 9, yet it doesnt have a ranking system at all. Which would you choose?

[TheGuyWhoShotU]

This might just blow quake wars outta the water

[FallenMorgan]

I have a question for you then. Theres two games for you to choose between. One of them is, say, Battlefield 4 and the other is Call of Duty 4. BF4 has an indepth ranking/tracking system, but its not that good, not alot of fun. CoD4 on the other hand is alot of fun, indepth gameplay, mod support, the whole 9, yet it doesnt have a ranking system at all. Which would you choose?

Well CoD multiplayer is kinda blah because of no ranks, stats, or anything

[ThQp]

@TheGuyWhoShotU

i think it will. the support we get will decide alot of it

[HackerX4]

I expect a better game than bf2...which will most likely happen...:)

[fps.sledge]

I'd have to say I was excited about the whole stat system until a few months after playing battlefield 2. Then I didn't really care all that much. I mean it's sorta fun to work towards certain medals, ribbons etc. but in the end, I come from a gaming background in Raven Shield/Rogue Spear. The social aspect of that game was alot better. The games were more suspensful (only one life per round). If you were a part of the community in those games, you probably know what I'm talking about. DOn't get me wrong, I love battlefield 2. I just also love other aspects of other games for other reasons.

[FallenMorgan]

Wow I made the first hot thread rofl

Anyways its a good incentive to play the game, like I play BF2142 almost every day because I try to get to the next rank and get the cool unlocks and stuff. It would be cool if they have alot of weapons and unlocks and player customization

Crysis seems more like its focused primarily on singleplayer like CoD whail Frontlines seems multiplayer focused like BF2

[Zandog]

I expect a better game than bf2...which will most likely happen...:)

That's all I'm looking for, a game with stability. BF provided great game play, but it wasn't finished. FFOW should provide us with a more polished product.

[FFOLKES]

All I know is that Frontlines will deliver...

I am so looking forward to this game.

I predict:

- True mod support unlike EA/DICE's horrible BF2/BF2142 track record
- Fantastic MP and SP/CO-OP game play
- Free content for everyone on a regular basis
- Patches that are quality tested
- And much, much more...

[iDash]

I cant wait to use all the little gizmos!

Beta Tester, Me, please!

[Soduka]

So many games to choose from. Quake Wars, (If it doesn't keep getting pushed back until it's another STALKER) and now FFOW! So many choices, and finally a way off the EA bandwagon...

:D

[kaheiyeh]

I say that the ranking system should be ditched; all is does is take people away from the mods because they don't get points playing on it. I'm really looking forward to this game; looks quite kick *** at the moment.

[Sir. Jameslcfc]

My expectations are a full teamwork game, no vehicle whores, good servers and game modes.

[solofowaffles]

My expectations are a full teamwork game, no vehicle whores, good servers and game modes.

exactly keyword being TEAMWORK

[ThQp]

vehicle whores will always be there, the make the game fun. its a race for the plane when you could have just as well walked to your location. Teamwork would be a nice change.

[Moonstar]

Morgan;177044']Well CoD multiplayer is kinda blah because of no ranks, stats, or anything


Are you kidding me? You do know CoD 1/2 is the most played online game next to Counter Strike, not to mention it's clan community? No stat system, people are enjoying the game, and you call it "blah"? You must be on crack

Stats will just ruin the game, just like they ruined BF2. It's a fun game, but you only have a few maps which majority plays on, custom maps go down the drain before they're even made, stat padding, exploits, no teamwork, for some random numbers on the screen.

[Black_lagon]

Are you kidding me? You do know CoD 1/2 is the most played online game next to Counter Strike, not to mention it's clan community? No stat system, people are enjoying the game, and you call it "blah"? You must be on crack

Stats will just ruin the game, just like they ruined BF2. It's a fun game, but you only have a few maps which majority plays on, custom maps go down the drain before they're even made, stat padding, exploits, no teamwork, for some random numbers on the screen.
ohh yea:D cunstom map rules.

Strike at karkand 2 cunstom map, but all the stats whores on strike at karkand map from DIce.


For me tracking krd/avrage kill distance/ vehicle destroyed ect are good for me because the only think I want to know i how good mine perforemence is on the battlefield.

[TheEn|gma]

XFire being a fairly accurate representation of the gaming community always shows that more time is spent on CoD2 than BF2. My clan play quite often in some tactical servers a great experience and you don't have stat padders sitting in the corner stroking their perfect figures on some web page.

[defiant]

I expect Fuel of War to demolish the betafield franchise in every conceivable way :cool:

[ponton]

I expect great "feel" when playing multiplayer.

[FallenMorgan]

I like being able to get points for doing things and all that stuff, because its like I won't play it if I'm not rewarded for playing it like with stats

[Black_lagon]

Morgan;177534']I like being able to get points for doing things and all that stuff, because its like I won't play it if I'm not rewarded for playing it like with stats

and that why Bf1942 and DC where better games.
most people didn't complain about a vehicle but adepted:rolleyes:
and also worked together to take down everything that was in there way.

the community is so much different, in olmost in every round you would saw gf
that stands for good fight now I maby see it only 1 time iin 25 rounds:eek:

to many people are focused for points then gameplay it self.
maby if you where in the bf1942 and dc days
you know why some people are against it. those games offer more things like:

Teamwork
Olmost no whiners
complimants on the ingame chat
no BFROE telling what you to do if people want knive fights then let them, they bought the game to and yes there where stats but not ranking.
compentent vehicle drivers.
adept to the sutation instead whing on the ingame chat.

[ponton]

BFROE dosn't make sense in game without stats. If FFOW won't have stats, I'm pretty sure online playing will be at high mature level.

[Black_lagon]

BFROE dosn't make sense in game without stats. If FFOW won't have stats, I'm pretty sure online playing will be at high mature level.

wrong if you would exploit the game or enforce rules but there is still a stats systeem only no unlock systeem ;)
by stats mean, kdr/avarge distance/kill ration in vehicle's ect

it are stats so they can pop-up anytime if the game comes out.

[ponton]

Oh well, exploits are in every game, so it's up to admins and developers to made them less critical/eliminate them.
In terms of stats.. I said it before I don't like it, but that is only my opinion. Well, maybe some little statsies... but very small,like this small ;)

[Black_lagon]

Oh well, exploits are in every game, so it's up to admins and developers to made them less critical/eliminate them.
In terms of stats.. I said it before I don't like it, but that is only my opinion. Well, maybe some little statsies... but very small,like this small ;)
:laugh: normal is fine, I'm talking about this http://bftracks.net/FAQ.html
( but the site has been take down or something is wrong)

it was the biggest stat site for bf1942 no rankings only stats

[Nefarious]

Morgan;177534']I like being able to get points for doing things and all that stuff, because its like I won't play it if I'm not rewarded for playing it like with stats

You have to look at multiplayer in a more enjoyable perspective. When I play a multiplayer game, I dont ask myself "whats the value in it all?", I ask myself "Whats the fun in it all?" Thats what the alot of us are trying to explain to you here. This isnt a major league sport where statistics actually mean something, its more like frisbee, people dont play it to record down how many catches and misses they have, its suppose to be fun. Try shifting your focus towards the enjoyment you get out of a good game. :)

[sddo]

You have to look at multiplayer in a more enjoyable perspective. When I play a multiplayer game, I dont ask myself "whats the value in it all?", I ask myself "Whats the fun in it all?" Thats what the alot of us are trying to explain to you here. This isnt a major league sport where statistics actually mean something, its more like frisbee, people dont play it to record down how many catches and misses they have, its suppose to be fun. Try shifting your focus towards the enjoyment you get out of a good game. :)

it's pretty obvious this point is lost on him. he plays for stats. he wants an rpg with fps feel. he doesn't want to play just for the fun of it.

Morgan;177534']because its like I won't play it if I'm not rewarded for playing it like with stats

that quote said it all. he won't play without stats. i dunno how he survived before bf2. it's like he needs someone else to pat him on the back after each round. this is the attitude that kills communities