Desert Conflict On The Horizon?

[[MyIS]Spawndemon]

Doorstop from the Desert Conflict (http://desert-conflict.org/) mod has posted up some exciting news over in the Desert Conflict forums (http://www.desert-conflict.org/forum/index.php) today. Here's what he had to say:

Well i'm currently sitting in a meeting with the other devs and we've done alot of talking about whats going on and so on and so forth. I can tell you this at this moment. We are feature locked. So no more new content will be added for this upcomming release. We've finalized our lists of what will be in the .1 Alpha build for release and will be wrapping that stuff up. We'll be saving some stuff that we are half done with for the next release. We'll have a good selection of maps and vehicles. But most of all I thought you'd be pleased to know that its VERY close now. Please dont ask for a timeline I wont give it. Not just yet. We have a few new test builds to compile and go through to make sure we've worked the annoying crap out of it. BUT THE TIME IS NEAR!!!

To check out this entire thread, click here (http://www.desert-conflict.org/forum/showthread.php?p=54350). Great to see the Desert Conflict (http://desert-conflict.org/) team is nearing release. Stay tuned for more!

[Tren]

Very good work guys, now I am getting excited.

I hope to play it soon! :)

[teetsaar123]

Can i get a W00000000T W000000000000T!????????! xD :D

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

Its a good time to be a fan of playing MODs. so much great stuff around the corner, from so many teams.

:cool:

[Mabes[31stMEU]]

Sweet, the only bad thing is now I have to manage my play time even more lol, so I can still play PoE, OPK and this, along with Company of Heroes.

[5150 Joker]

Good news, POE 2 left me disappointed overall with its weak helicopter physics and always having to zoom in for accurate weapon fire. I hope Desert Conflict has stayed true to the original DC in that respect.

[Doctor Venture]

Wow this is such great news, I can't wait to relive Desert Combat!

[[MyIS]Dan]

Sweetness :D

[Madmech]

This is gonna be sweet. After DC came out I never player 1942 again. I hope after Desert Conflict I will never want to go back to BF2 :D

I hope it comes out before the weekend but I doubt it :cry:

[Spuddy]

Can't wait, the sooner the better. :D

[{RR}SinisterCaesarSalad]

This is gonna be sweet. After DC came out I never player 1942 again. I hope after Desert Conflict I will never want to go back to BF2 :D

I hope it comes out before the weekend but I doubt it :cry:
We're not quite THAT close. LOL Trust me, when we get within a few weeks, my PR boys will be out in full force getting the word out. :evil:

[Crusnik]

ohhh dude.....freaking brutal!!!!

[imported_thebamsco]

Excellent news DCon :D

Any hint of game modes included?

Loved your CTF mod, would be great if this was included in ur bona fida release.

Looking forward to playing ya all :D

[steelcam]

Don't forget people this is the 0.1 alpha release, so its not what your going to get like in our future releases.
As told before, not all stuff can make it in this first release, but like in the Desert Combat mod, every other release will get better and better with more good stuff like the org made from scratch!!

[wolfi]

yay cant wait to try your mod guys :)

[CATIA]

Awesome news DCon. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEEEEE include the Scud in the alpha release.

[imported_Master Shake]

MLRS......Weeeeee........

[BigBadBob]

You won't be disappointed, I can guarantee that.

[sknight]

man..so he can post on totalbf2 WHILE in a meeting. He's braver than I am!

[Tiny]

This is great news...Especially with Company of Heroes at the horison aswell as some new pc specs....!!!! <(^^,)>

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

Awesome news DCon. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEEEEE include the Scud in the alpha release.

For you Catia, I will make sure the SCUD is in the first release. ;)

Capture the Flag will be in this release, as well as others. I will see if I can get a confirmed list of the modes from Kiff and post them here later. :cool: :cool:

[imported_Master Shake]

For you Catia, I will make sure the SCUD is in the first release. ;)

Capture the Flag will be in this release, as well as others. I will see if I can get a confirmed list of the modes from Kiff and post them here later. :cool: :cool:


SCUD= Ultimate Base Raping weapon of all time!!!

Yay!!

[Wingman15]

Excellent news. Can't wait to get my hands on this bad boy.

[{RR}SinisterCaesarSalad]

The SCUD will be more dangerous. Both for the poor souls on the recieving end, AND the one's piloting. You see, with the BF2 engine, you can now see things such as both the SCUD & MLRS ordinance flying through the air. No more mystery on "WTF was THAT?!?!" lol Which, in turn, means they'll know which direction to hunt you down from! :laugh:

[BigBadBob]

The SCUD will be more dangerous. Both for the poor souls on the recieving end, AND the one's piloting. You see, with the BF2 engine, you can now see things such as both the SCUD & MLRS ordinance flying through the air. No more mystery on "WTF was THAT?!?!" lol Which, in turn, means they'll know which direction to hunt you down from! :laugh:

Yes, it's a brutal, savage weapon.

And true, you can track where it's coming from, as Salad said. It's downright scary.

[Mekstizzle]

Looking good, dare i say it but; The competition between this and USI will only make both mods much better.

[GMEM]

yayayay! :D cant wait!

[Karl]

w00t w00t, can't wait :)

[imported_Master Shake]

The SCUD will be more dangerous. Both for the poor souls on the recieving end, AND the one's piloting. You see, with the BF2 engine, you can now see things such as both the SCUD & MLRS ordinance flying through the air. No more mystery on "WTF was THAT?!?!" lol Which, in turn, means they'll know which direction to hunt you down from! :laugh:


Can the scud be shot down?? MLRS ordanance?

Also are there A-10s and do they have cluster bombs?

[CATIA]

For you Catia, I will make sure the SCUD is in the first release. ;)

Capture the Flag will be in this release, as well as others. I will see if I can get a confirmed list of the modes from Kiff and post them here later. :cool: :cool:
Awesome dude, can't wait to base camp the US on el al :laugh:. just like the good ole days :cry:

[imported_Master Shake]

Awesome dude, can't wait to base camp the US on el al :laugh:. just like the good ole days :cry:

Thats exactly what I was refering to....

I remember spawning and running for a tank just a everything exploded...haha...

Remeber seeing this typed: "will one of you plane whores be a team player and kill that F**king SCUD!!!"

[[PTG]Fusion]

Nice job devs.

[Dr.D]

Praise Allah

[TheyKilledKenny]

I dang near lost control of my bladder when I read this. Can't wait!

[Deesies]

Makes me giggle when mod teams talk like real developers.

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

Makes me giggle when mod teams talk like real developers.:blabla:

Thanks for stopping by and saying hello.

[BigBadBob]

Can the scud be shot down?? MLRS ordanance?

Also are there A-10s and do they have cluster bombs?

http://www.desert-conflict.org/forum/showpost.php?p=54048&postcount=41

[ikito]

Omfg Yesss

[b` m3ow]

Yea!! I cant wait for my SCUD! w00t! :D

[bigpappa]

i cant wait for this mod, it should roxxors my boxers

[QUINT]

Cool, thats good news no doubt...

Now, FORGOTTEN HOPE....c'mon, Follow suit!!! :D

With 2142 on the horizon, I think it's do or die time for most mods that havent released yet.
...we should start seeing more news like this...



~Q~

[Jblankster]

i cant wait to play n try the a-10:nerr: :rock: :guns: :mad: :evil:

[masterllama]

Cool, thats good news no doubt...

Now, FORGOTTEN HOPE....c'mon, Follow suit!!! :D

With 2142 on the horizon, I think it's do or die time for most mods that havent released yet.
...we should start seeing more news like this...



~Q~

Um the release of 2142 will have no impact on mods seeing as most of the community really isn't impressed by it. Let FH take their time, the longer the better quality.

[Deesies]

:blabla:

Thanks for stopping by and saying hello.

You're welcome. Personally I think I should be paid for this service.

[BLITZ]

Yay! Can't wait to see the updated Apache and Hind in game. :D

[masterllama]

Yay! Can't wait to see the updated Apache and Hind in game. :D

I'm hoping they sound and look better than the ones in SF

[alphasylvain]

hi all

i have install for test!
stats dcon ctf ranked IN GAME 213.246.60.5:16567

look => http://statsbf2.cybergraphik.net/test/

[CATIA]

hi all

i have install for test!
stats dcon ctf ranked IN GAME 213.246.60.5:16567

look => http://statsbf2.cybergraphik.net/test/
awesome news :salute:

[Mekstizzle]

Yay! Can't wait to see the updated Apache and Hind in game. :D

Oh yeah, damn. After playing USI and PoE i promised myself never to play a game where they think that the HIND is able to go up against a proper attack chopper. Whether it's the Apache or the Eurocopter Tiger. I don't see DC being able to pull something out of their arse that will make it somewhat fun to be on the Iraqi side.

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

Oh yeah, damn. After playing USI and PoE i promised myself never to play a game where they think that the HIND is able to go up against a proper attack chopper. Whether it's the Apache or the Eurocopter Tiger. I don't see DC being able to pull something out of their arse that will make it somewhat fun to be on the Iraqi side.

I never uderstood that concept. In the DC days, I found the weapons devastating on both sides, US and Iraqi. Maybe some people specialize, but I could kill most people with weapons and vehicles from both armies.

A hind should be a tank killer, troop mover type thing IMO. Of course, a great chopper pilot against a noob makes a Hind vs Apache fight a viable option.

I have taken down many apache pilots with a hind, and laughed when it was over.

Then again, I have taken out a Hind with the M109 from halfway across the map, so go figure. ;)

[imported_Master Shake]

I never uderstood that concept. In the DC days, I found the weapons devastating on both sides, US and Iraqi. Maybe some people specialize, but I could kill most people with weapons and vehicles from both armies.

A hind should be a tank killer, troop mover type thing IMO. Of course, a great chopper pilot against a noob makes a Hind vs Apache fight a viable option.

I have taken down many apache pilots with a hind, and laughed when it was over.

Then again, I have taken out a Hind with the M109 from halfway across the map, so go figure. ;)

Its all in how you precieve it, granted I do feel the American weapons had the advantage in old DC,see but it made it more of a challenge and tougher to play as the Iraq's. (I hope its more balanced this time around) Also lets face it everyone wanted to be on the US side so you were often left as Iraqi by default.


All that being said find a good server and get better, Iraqi,US,......whatever just play to win.

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

Actually, it might bdepend what servers and group you ran with in the DC days.

From my experience, everyone loved the Iraqi side first. The MIG, the SU25, the mig, the Saiga, and the Support on iraqi were all considered the best weapons in the begininng. Of course, everyone cried about the VSS\sniper gun of death at first, didnt they.

I didnt notice much difference personally, it depends who was using it. My pal <R>Noobie could take most anyone down in a dog fight with the Frogfoot, even good pilots in the M16, he just owned you, lol. That made DC fun, if you were good. BF2 took away that dominance of the noobs, for the most part.

For instance, I always thought the AK spec variant in DC was an amazing gun, most people didnt like them. The saiga was my all time favorite for close quarters. Lots of jumping and Saiga spray was the "Bunny Hopping" of DC.

If a noob pilot goes up against a vet in DCON, they wont win, thats how were making the game. With skill, you will again own all the kids out there who think the PC they mom bought will give them the edge, muhahaha. :evil:

[Wingman15]

I think balance is lame. If the real US weapons are better, they should be better in the game, if Iraqi tanks are better, or choppers, they should be better in the game. I prefer more realistic weapons.

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

I think balance is lame.

Many of us prefer a game where one army is unbalanced because of the skill of the players on that side, and thier ability to work together for the win.

In DC, sometimmes 2 or 3 guys could own the whole game, and all you could do to survive is stay out of thier way.

Clans and guys would get banned from DC servers, cause four of us whould own thier entire team, it was greaty to get banned for just wrecking thier shop, lol.

[666PROTECTOR]

ye fun in dc wos based on skilz - and it fun

[Deesies]

nah. The only people who truly believe in that line of thought are teenagers/12 yr olds who have just as much trouble waiting for school holidays as they do a FREE game which mummy doesn't have to pay for...

go figure :p

And who was the nub who said he finds it funny when "mod teams talk like real developers"? what a tard. Obviously has no idea what goes on behind the scenes... personally i think you should stfu.




anyhoo - despite my poor mood today - fantastic to hear you guys nearing .1 ---- i will be downloading your mod ;) The light is getting closer in this proverbial tunnel we call modding!

Good thing I don't give a **** what you think. No run along captain irrelevant!

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

As a favor for the work that modders do, I wish moderators would just get rid of people like you.:rolleyes:

I should just ignore it, but its hard some time. I need less coffee, lol.

[Tiny]

Screw the balance Bring on the Challenge :D

And I sure hope you don't ruin the Hind as POE did when they decided that it should not retract its gears. Hind is an Ugly beast if it doesn't get those gears up. Period.

And I can't wait for ur T-tanks!!!

[Fishw0rk]

Screw the balance Bring on the Challenge :D

And I sure hope you don't ruin the Hind as POE did when they decided that it should not retract its gears. Hind is an Ugly beast if it doesn't get those gears up. Period.

And I can't wait for ur T-tanks!!!


Wow, PoE's Hind is "ruined" because it can't retract its landing gear... :rolleyes:

[Mabes[31stMEU]]

Hell, I liked the guns better for the Iraqis than I did for the US. Defiantly more fun when it takes some skill to beat back the other team.

[LexLuther]

Makes me giggle when mod teams talk like real developers.

How do real Developer talk I wonder? I personally use pig latin. :)

Cool news guys, can I own everyone in my Apache like I did in DC. If yes then I'm in. :D

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

How do real Developer talk I wonder? I personally use pig latin. :)

Cool news guys, can I own everyone in my Apache like I did in DC. If yes then I'm in. :D

Pig Latin, nice one Lex. If I ever want to try for a real developer spot, I shall brush up on my igpay atinlay.

Yes, you are free to own with the apache. :cool:

[BigBadBob]

Then again, I have taken out a Hind with the M109 from halfway across the map, so go figure. ;)


That got me kicked from a few servers. Lots of warnings. Hacker!!!! No way you can use a howitzer to take down helos. But I would do it all map long. You would have hated to go against me on Gazala. Lots of places to hide, you get occupied trying to take out a tank, BOOM!!!!! WTF was that?

[jilted]

Screw the balance Bring on the Challenge :D

And I sure hope you don't ruin the Hind as POE did when they decided that it should not retract its gears. Hind is an Ugly beast if it doesn't get those gears up. Period.

And I can't wait for ur T-tanks!!!

I would like to point out that Point of Existence uses the Mi24PN, it does not retract its gears.

[5150 Joker]

DConflict team:

Just make sure you adhere to one simple principal: Make the mod fun and by that I mean do not cave in to being anal about what is realistic and what isn't. If something isn't realistic but is a ****load of fun to play then keep the fun factor for it and ignore the inevitable whining. DC succeeded because it had multidimensional gameplay that was fun. The choppers had a fairly steep learning curve but once you mastered them, the power they afforded made it all the worthwhile and increased the fun factor by 10. Also be sure your weapons have much much better accuracy than the ones in BF2 and by that I mean reduce the spread by a lot and make it to where we can actually hit a distant target without having to zoom in and allow us to be able to strafe + fire at someone without having all the bullets spread across various directions without actually hitting the target--it doesn't need to be a UT/Quake clone but one thing that really lacks in BF2 and all the mods so far is that the weapon spread is insanely high. Just look at POE 2, you can't hit the broad side of a barn unless you're zoomed in 99% of the time, that just sucks.

So in conclusion, please make sure your mod is fun. :)

[BigBadBob]

Yes, you are free to own with the apache. :cool:

No he's not. He'll have to deal with me first (if I'm on the other team that is)

[Doctor Venture]

5150 eyeglasses, and skill are apparently things you lacked while playing poe2.
I truly hope that DCon lives up to the hype you and everyone here gives it.
But if not, then you and a lot of people here have already set themselves up for a big dissapointment.

Personally, I can't wait to have DCon going along side Pirates2, FH2 and PoE2.

[5150 Joker]

Don't forget people this is the 0.1 alpha release, so its not what your going to get like in our future releases.
As told before, not all stuff can make it in this first release, but like in the Desert Combat mod, every other release will get better and better with more good stuff like the org made from scratch!!


Totally understandable but just make sure you have at least 3-4 varied maps and try to get in an urban map if possible because most BF2 players these days are urban map junkies. As long as it has El Alamein + the hind/apache I'll be happy :)

5150 eyeglasses, and skill are apparently things you lacked while playing poe2.
I truly hope that DCon lives up to the hype you and everyone here gives it.
But if not, then you and a lot of people here have already set themselves up for a big dissapointment.

Personally, I can't wait to have DCon going along side Pirates2, FH2 and PoE2.


DV, I usually scored in the top 5 on almost any server I played (I use the alias n00dlez when I played POE2) so I doubt skill was a problem. So that only leaves one thing: The weapon accuracy actually is crappy like I mentioned and scoring points using guns in that mod depends solely on ones ability to be able to zoom in and nail targets consistently.

[jimbob]

DConflict team:

Just make sure you adhere to one simple principal: Make the mod fun and by that I mean do not cave in to being anal about what is realistic and what isn't. If something isn't realistic but is a ****load of fun to play then keep the fun factor for it and ignore the inevitable whining. DC succeeded because it had multidimensional gameplay that was fun. The choppers had a fairly steep learning curve but once you mastered them, the power they afforded made it all the worthwhile and increased the fun factor by 10. Also be sure your weapons have much much better accuracy than the ones in BF2 and by that I mean reduce the spread by a lot and make it to where we can actually hit a distant target without having to zoom in and allow us to be able to strafe + fire at someone without having all the bullets spread across various directions without actually hitting the target--it doesn't need to be a UT/Quake clone but one thing that really lacks in BF2 and all the mods so far is that the weapon spread is insanely high. Just look at POE 2, you can't hit the broad side of a barn unless you're zoomed in 99% of the time, that just sucks.

So in conclusion, please make sure your mod is fun. :)


"make sure you make the mod the way i think it should be made"

:rolleyes: haha jk

bit late to make those suggestions though... don't you think?

[Lobo[FH]]

So in conclusion, please make sure your mod is fun. :)

Your concept of fun is kindergarden style, no ofence. There is nothing bad in more acurate shots in ironsight mode. It decreases the pest of bunnyhoppers, spray'n'prayers and other jolly species.

[CATIA]

How do real Developer talk I wonder? I personally use pig latin. :)

I thought you guys use Binary language ;)
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Anywhoo, I wish the people with doubts would keep their opinions to themselves, and judge the product when it comes out.

[HaVOCK-ElEEt]

I truly hope that DCon lives up to the hype you and everyone here gives it.
But if not, then you and a lot of people here have already set themselves up for a big dissapointment.

So you have found a new way to be rude to this team DV, thats great. I guess being a straight out A-Hole has been replaced with passive agressive sarcasm. :rolleyes:

Live up to the Hype? I dont think I would say that "everyone" has hyped up this game.

Just release your game when its ready team, and pay no attention to the bull.

[squizz]

im looking forward to dcon, and to throw it out there, a lot of people here are silently hoping for this mod to become the dc of bf2. It is being hyped, I personally don't care if it is or not. I played dc for about a month and moved on.

[HaVOCK-ElEEt]

im looking forward to dcon, and to throw it out there, a lot of people here are silently hoping for this mod to become the dc of bf2. It is being hyped, I personally don't care if it is or not. I played dc for about a month and moved on.

Well, there intention is to recreate a DC style game, and follow in its footsteps as much as they can. All the guys making it seem to be old dc players, and want everyone to have those maps and vehicles on this engine. I love them for that, and I hope its as fun to play as it looks like it will be

If people are silently hoping that this is a new dc style fun party, then how can you say it is being hyped? Just curious, silent and hyped dont really go together.

If I get my SCUD, my Frogfoot, and the Shika on some Gazala, and my CAR15 on some Lost Village, then my void will be filled.

[squizz]

not to rain on your parade but since dcon was announced, players have been expecting this to be dc2 (I'm going back before you joined these forums). Like I said this mod is being hyped...but you make it sound like it's a bad thing =\ If the mod simply lives up to it. then who cares right? Again like I said I personally don't care if it's hyped up or not. If its fun I'll play it, if not then I won't be disappointed, I'll simply move on.

[5150 Joker]

']Your concept of fun is kindergarden style, no ofence. There is nothing bad in more acurate shots in ironsight mode. It decreases the pest of bunnyhoppers, spray'n'prayers and other jolly species.


And being a realism whore is somehow more "mature"? :rolleyes: People that like realism are usually the ones that can't handle fast paced games.

[Doorstop[DCON]]

Hyped? How would you describe the "Hype" If you all have some crazy notion that the first Alpha release is gonna be up to par with the amount of stuff that was in DC Final then you are mistaken. Granted we have more to offer than DC did with their first Alpha build. So thats a plus. We're in the middle of .1 and .2.. Perhaps close to what DC 1.5 would be like. We have a good sized amount of equipment thats pretty varied. Getting all the rest of the familiar pieces such as the shilka and what not will prob come at a later release for us. Its a good sized amount of goodies comming with the Alpha so you wont be disappointed by the amount of things you get to drive and kill.

[masterllama]

I heard you guys aren't going to be like a dc bf2 more of just a remake with more vehicles and better stuff. Im guessing USI is going to be more like a bf2 Desert combat deal with lock on missiles and what not.

[Lobo[FH]]

And being a realism whore is somehow more "mature"? :rolleyes: People that like realism are usually the ones that can't handle fast paced games.

Short answer: YES, it's more mature.
And I have not troubles to handle fast paced guys, thanks ;)
Realism is the best training to pown you, arcade lads

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

I heard you guys aren't going to be like a dc bf2 more of just a remake with more vehicles and better stuff. Im guessing USI is going to be more like a bf2 Desert combat deal with lock on missiles and what not.

Is that what you heard? Heard from who? what exactly does any of that mean?

USI is and has been out for a while, and no one you know has played our game, so what exactly are you talking about? We have done countless polls among DC fans and never has a majority wanted lock ons, not even close. Some people swear they wont even play with lock ons, go figure.

:rolleyes:

[masterllama]

Is that what you heard? Heard from who? what exactly does any of that mean?

USI is and has been out for a while, and no one you know has played our game, so what exactly are you talking about? We have done countless polls among DC fans and never has a majority wanted lock ons, not even close. Some people swear they wont even play with lock ons, go figure.

:rolleyes:

USIs release really wasn't a release imo just kinda a thing it really didn't phase the community like POE2 has. Their next release should probably be the "real" one with more custom things such as sounds n such and updated things.

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

In your opinion USI wasnt a real release cause it didnt "Phase the comunitylike POE2" I shouldnt even get into that one, lol.

It doesnt matter anyway, each one is a totaly different free game, enjoy all, or some, or none. It wont effect my paycheck, thats for sure, lol.

There will never be antoher DC for many reasons, its a different time in FPS gaming, as most of these guys will tell you. Anyone who says any different is kidding themselves.

Hope to see on the battlefield. :cool:

[JohnM]

USIs release really wasn't a release imo just kinda a thing it really didn't phase the community like POE2 has. Their next release should probably be the "real" one with more custom things such as sounds n such and updated things.


Ahhh the age old question up there with 'to be or not to be'...when is a release not a release?
Well it was on several download sites (eventualy ;) ),it had tens of thousand of people download and play it ,obviously to do so there was also servers...so in my opinion (if it matters) it follows all the correct criteria for a release..

As for not phasing the community,well i cant comment as i'm not up to speed on the goings on at camp POE2 but people i know who played USi enjoyed it,pretty much the point of all the work the devs (and to a lesser extent us lowly testers) put in..

I'm looking forward to DesertConflict and their take on the BF2 engine,unlike a few people here i've played DC for a number of years and still continue to do so (punch and pie servers..dont say i dont help out Daggers ;) )

Like has been said people shouldn't expect DCF (or DC.7) quality or quantity,its the first release and the fun factor should make up for the omissions.

[{RR}SinisterCaesarSalad]

:DAhhh the age old question up there with 'to be or not to be'...when is a release not a release?
Well it was on several download sites (eventualy ;) ),it had tens of thousand of people download and play it ,obviously to do so there was also servers...so in my opinion (if it matters) it follows all the correct criteria for a release..

As for not phasing the community,well i cant comment as i'm not up to speed on the goings on at camp POE2 but people i know who played USi enjoyed it,pretty much the point of all the work the devs (and to a lesser extent us lowly testers) put in..

I'm looking forward to DesertConflict and their take on the BF2 engine,unlike a few people here i've played DC for a number of years and still continue to do so (punch and pie servers..dont say i dont help out Daggers ;) )

Like has been said people shouldn't expect DCF (or DC.7) quality or quantity,its the first release and the fun factor should make up for the omissions.
Thanks for trying to help clarify, John. I look forward to playing with USI's new toys as well. ;)
Vanilla FTL!!

[The Defeatest]

']Short answer: YES, it's more mature.
And I have not troubles to handle fast paced guys, thanks ;)
Realism is the best training to pown you, arcade lads

I tend to agree with you Lobo, but I'm not sure that it's more "mature" You might want a better word for that. If you look at the reason we and all gamers are here, it's because of arcade games. We all come from a collective history of them. Atari, Pac-Man, Rygar, Pitfall. All of these are arcade games, and they were some of the stepping stones to the Bf series we all play today. Kill all bunnyhoppers and Dolphin diving bastards , yes! But you have to have an element of arcade in the game, or it wont last long. We don't play them to be real, we play them to escape reality.:)

[jimbob]

We don't play them to be real, we play them to escape reality.:)

Alot of us grew up "escaping reality" and now We want to be immersed in it ;)



I'm too old for games... but I'm ripe for simulations.


random Jimbob hijack complete :p

[Wingman15]

And being a realism whore is somehow more "mature"? :rolleyes: People that like realism are usually the ones that can't handle fast paced games.

So real war is slow paced? Ha, tell that to our boys in uniform and see if they agree with you.

[Lobo[FH]]

I tend to agree with you Lobo, but I'm not sure that it's more "mature" You might want a better word for that. If you look at the reason we and all gamers are here, it's because of arcade games. We all come from a collective history of them. Atari, Pac-Man, Rygar, Pitfall. All of these are arcade games, and they were some of the stepping stones to the Bf series we all play today. Kill all bunnyhoppers and Dolphin diving bastards , yes! But you have to have an element of arcade in the game, or it wont last long. We don't play them to be real, we play them to escape reality.:)

Obviously each person has a diferent opinion and cup of tea in gaming, and is fine and dandy.

My point is that a realistic game or mod can be a hell of fun also, or do you think we, the realism whores, play to suffer? :D

For us the total fun is to feel part of a real, dirty and ugly battle, full of blood, sweat and tears, where the keys to sucess are the teamplay, the tactic, the skills handling weapons and not the speed hitting the space bar, rotating 360º in mid air and cycling 4 uberweapons to kill one heli, two tanks and 7 soldiers in half a second, performing like a maniac rabbit on crack.

[Wingman15]

Amen to that Lobo. You hit the nail on the head. I think its dumb to have all planes in the game perform the same. I am glad they didn't change the J-10 as it adds some realism to the game. The F-35 may be more nimble in real life, but at least we have something in this game that is not an exact match of its counterpart on the opposite team.

Not every military jet flies the same or has the same amount of armour. I prefer things to be more accurate. Otherwise, the F-15 is just a skin of the same plane that the Mig-29 is a skin of. They are not the same in real life so they should not be the same in the game. If they make them the same in the game, then they should have the same skin.

I just don't know why a company would make a war game and then dumb it down so that the Mario crowd will be happy playing it. Lets keep it real. Let the modders dumb it down if they want. But then again, EA just wants to sell as many copies as possible. They don't care about the customers or the game. Just the bottom line. EA has gotten to big and has forgotten about us the customer.

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

Thats like saying that blondes are really better looking than Brunettes. ANd why its more mature to date one or the other.

Play whatever game you enjoy playing, there isnt any point in all the dialogue about why one is better. Points of view cant be argued, effectively.

BTW, thanks for all the hijacks. Ill be sure not to return the favor. :box:

[Wingman15]

Hehehe. Sorry SySeX73. Hey, is your mod going to try to have the helicopter flight characteristics that Desert Combat had? One of my buddies is so upset that BF2 mad choppers so easy to fly. He loved the way DC choppers were and is hoping your mod will do the same.

[=DNC=SYSEX73]

Thats the plan wingman. We want our gear to work like DC stuff. Your not going to get in an Apache or a Mirage and just own the world, if you never did with DC that is. Everyone misses those physics, its one of the reasons we want this MOD out
So we can play it with people. Not just our testers, lol. :cool:

[zuiquan1]

So we cant play it with people. Not just our testers, lol. :cool:

Your all just tired of us kicking your asses:D

[xRAMBOx]

whats the content ?armour?helos,planes,boats?

shoalin taoist hey;)
body follows the mind not other way around:p

[{RR}SinisterCaesarSalad]

whats the content ?armour?helos,planes,boats?

The Dev's are finalizing the list for the Alpha .1 release as we speak. As soon as they get me that list, I'll let y'all know! :D

[Wingman15]

Thats the plan wingman. We want our gear to work like DC stuff. Your not going to get in an Apache or a Mirage and just own the world, if you never did with DC that is. Everyone misses those physics, its one of the reasons we want this MOD out
So we can play it with people. Not just our testers, lol. :cool:

I just sent your post off to that friend of mine. He is going to wet himself when he reads it. hahaha. Thanks so much for the confirmation. Can't wait for the mod. You guys are awesome and we appreciate your hard work and dedication.