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ReaperOfsouls
12-16-2006, 04:17 PM
How do you feel about in game ads in crysis? No matter how good the game is I still would be pissed of if it had it, especially if it was as bad as 2142 where their is a billboard every two feet.

There are countless articles and video interviews about in game ads in all games in general and the feeling among the gamers is that when you have to see ads you are supposed to get something in return, like money off the game but thats not the case.

How would you like to see crytech implement in game ads?

Thoughts?

jo-snowman
12-16-2006, 04:38 PM
I would like to see them using the money that they raised from the ads, and reducing the price of the game. I don't mind ads as long as they don't interfere with the game.

DarQraven
12-16-2006, 07:59 PM
This has already been discussed to death IMO.
The new ad thingy was not invented to make more money. It was invented to cover the costs of nextgen (I hate that word) game development.
If they don't, soon games will cost 90 euros or more. They simply need A LOT more resources to complete a game. Where some years ago, you'd hire 10 character modellers and some concept artists, you now need 10 modellers, 10 animators/rigger, 10 texture artists, 10 high-definition mappers, and lots of concept artists. Engines are also become more and more complex, so they require a lot more coding than before, resulting in more time spent coding, and more programmers to hire. I see it as perfectly valid that they don't reduce prices when including ingame ads.

However, what WOULD be unfair is them over-covering the costs, so they actually make more money out of it. It wouldn't be that bad, because all that money is then spent on making more games, but I would at least like to know about it then;)

PuertoRecon
12-16-2006, 08:12 PM
I don't mind ads. They can have coke and pepsi ads as long as they have a jungle theme (something that fits the Crysis atmosphere).

2142 hasn't even gone through with the whole live ad business. I doubt they ever will.

ReaperOfsouls
12-16-2006, 11:25 PM
I don't mind ads. They can have coke and pepsi ads as long as they have a jungle theme (something that fits the Crysis atmosphere).

2142 hasn't even gone through with the whole live ad business. I doubt they ever will.

Well they have enough billboards, there is one every where you look, good way to ruin a map in my opinion.

Steakslim
12-17-2006, 05:14 AM
Well they have enough billboards, there is one every where you look, good way to ruin a map in my opinion.


In all honesty, most of us won't even mind the ads after a while, it'll just be in the back our heads as we spend more time fire away at people. If they use ads, who knows how they might implement them, especially if it's part of the map, it could be vending machines with Pepsi logos, or poster in a locker room, or a decal on he side of a building. I'd much rather see ads in game as part of the map in the way shameless advertisments in film occure. It's there..but it's not there per say, you can choose to ignore it, or laugh at it. Much than rather say, a pop-up in the corner or scrolling ticker in the top or bottom of your screen.

If it helps with the prices for games, then by all means choose the lesser evil then.

Akuma
12-24-2006, 07:31 AM
No sir ..I dont like it one bit.
Dont want to see a single one in crysis.

dsotm
12-25-2006, 01:34 AM
if i'm playing a game, is for having good times+fun and not
watching **** ads everywhere. don't need it, useless. we see already
too much ads in real life... **** ads.

ShadowX8001
12-29-2006, 01:01 AM
After a while ads just become the level since they don't change but if they are always changing i dont know. They make it look good in 2142, like old and torn so that helps. Like someone else said make it fit, jungly. Like maybe have vines growing over it and have one leg broken so its on its side.

ReaperOfsouls
12-30-2006, 06:28 AM
After a while ads just become the level since they don't change but if they are always changing i dont know. They make it look good in 2142, like old and torn so that helps. Like someone else said make it fit, jungly. Like maybe have vines growing over it and have one leg broken so its on its side.

I see what you mean, I think 2142 was alright but it could be better.

For instance, there are those huge wide open maps like verdun with little building suggesting low population, so why in the heck would there be 75 billboards? In the city maps I could undserstand but not wide open maps.

If they do it like that in crysis its going to be awful, like billboards all through the jungle and in areas that normally would look deserted but dont because there are 5 billboards around one hut out in the middle of no where.

jo-snowman
01-04-2007, 02:23 AM
if i'm playing a game, is for having good times+fun and not
watching **** ads everywhere. don't need it, useless. we see already
too much ads in real life... **** ads.

**** ads = **** games.
games are getting more and more expensive to produce. so would you rather have a crap game with no ads, or a sweet game with ads. IMO i'd go for the sweet game.:)

ShadowX8001
01-04-2007, 06:43 PM
Ya the game Crysis must have cost a fortune, but maybe not a lot to them overall, but for 1 game it must be a lot

ReaperOfsouls
01-05-2007, 08:10 PM
**** ads = **** games.
games are getting more and more expensive to produce. so would you rather have a crap game with no ads, or a sweet game with ads. IMO i'd go for the sweet game.:)

Way to buy into their bs, I am sure it costs more, but I am sure they are making loads off the adds, way more then "just to off set the cost". I think that whole argument is bs, some of it true, but they are taking way more off the top, its not like they are going broke making the games they are getting twice as rich now because of the ads.

solodude23
01-08-2007, 04:45 AM
I don't mind ads. Pretty easy to ignore, in fact I barely notice them. Plus its a realistic and clever way to advertise. Do you guys whine about billboards in real life?

However I see what you mean about them being all over. Especially since they don't really seem to have a place in Crysis..in the Jungle.

ReaperOfsouls
01-08-2007, 04:59 AM
I don't mind ads. Pretty easy to ignore, in fact I barely notice them. Plus its a realistic and clever way to advertise. Do you guys whine about billboards in real life?

However I see what you mean about them being all over. Especially since they don't really seem to have a place in Crysis..in the Jungle.

You make a good point but in real life if there are not billboards covering the walls of the entire city.

Steakslim
01-08-2007, 07:21 AM
You make a good point but in real life if there are not billboards covering the walls of the entire city.

Depends on what portion of a city we are talking about here. If it's anything like New York's Time Square, it'd be an ad palooza, which would be kinda neat. Flashy billboards and giant lcd screens with neon lights......mmmm, it'd be like eye candy with viagra written on it.

DarQraven
01-09-2007, 11:05 AM
When it comes to ingame ads, I think I'd prefer a short video or image or slideshow of about 3-4 seconds before every match over the billboards.

This is because, believe it or not, even when ads weren't in games, you still had billboards in some games. For instance GTA. Billboards all over the place, yet no real ads. Where developers might go wrong is placing too many billboards just because of the ads. As long as it doesn't affect the level design, I'm okay with it.

However, seeing as Crysis is in the middle of F-ing nowhere, I wouldn't expect billboards there. Maybe they'll do it by wall posters, magazines laying on the ground, radio adverts, etc... Would be better.

Still, if they DID opt for billboards, I would just prefer the short ad segment before a match starts. It also gives players with a slower system time to load the map, so every match starts off fair. (I can't recall how often I've been flying my helicopter over the enemy base before they even loaded the map in BF2).

jodoanyore
01-09-2007, 12:52 PM
If this allows EA to have free servers to play i don't have problems. Been realistic the servers have a cost, and i think it's a good way to finance free servers with ads.

ReaperOfsouls
01-09-2007, 05:57 PM
When it comes to ingame ads, I think I'd prefer a short video or image or slideshow of about 3-4 seconds before every match over the billboards.

This is because, believe it or not, even when ads weren't in games, you still had billboards in some games. For instance GTA. Billboards all over the place, yet no real ads. Where developers might go wrong is placing too many billboards just because of the ads. As long as it doesn't affect the level design, I'm okay with it.

However, seeing as Crysis is in the middle of F-ing nowhere, I wouldn't expect billboards there. Maybe they'll do it by wall posters, magazines laying on the ground, radio adverts, etc... Would be better.

Still, if they DID opt for billboards, I would just prefer the short ad segment before a match starts. It also gives players with a slower system time to load the map, so every match starts off fair. (I can't recall how often I've been flying my helicopter over the enemy base before they even loaded the map in BF2).

I agree with this.

If this allows EA to have free servers to play i don't have problems. Been realistic the servers have a cost, and i think it's a good way to finance free servers with ads.

Clans pay for servers, and other community's, not EA.

[C*]Indest
02-07-2007, 04:35 AM
Whoever Thinks that the ads are there to help just pay development and production costs and it are not used to generate extra "profit" is seriously in denial.

I watched a 60min documentart a few years back on EA and the guy at EA was saying that it cost them about 15million to make a game and then made about 75million profit. (The numbers prob not exactly, but the ratio was some insane number)

Noted that EA dont actually make the games, but i doubt that the revenue generated from the ads only go to the developers.

So ... to sum up .. Ads are there to purely make EXTRA profit.

DarQraven
02-07-2007, 11:12 AM
This may have been true back then. However, consider that now there are 3 seriously mainstream consoles competing with the PC, and everyone with a decent gaming system is going to have high speed internet, enabling them to illegally download games over lunch. That easy way of pirating games didn't exist back then.

Plus, (I don't know where you're from) we probably buy our games legally, but I know a lot of countries where someone certainly won't pay 60 euros or it's equivalent for a game, if they even own a computer fast enough to play them. Example: I went to Pakistan a year ago. I don't know if I just picked out the wrong market there, but they sold more illegal copies than food.
EA isn't earning sh*t over countries like that. (No offense to Pakistani who buy their stuff legally)

David Gilmour
02-07-2007, 04:25 PM
I don't mind ads, it brings an authentic feel to the game. I want realism ads, such as Mountain Dew or Pepsi Ads.. I don't want ads that have nothing to do with anything, like eharmony or something..

I don't know why people complain about ads. Sure, it's a sucker thing to do.. Make crap loads of money, and they can't even lower the price.. Or spend the money towards a game. But, ads are everywhere.. In movies, commercials, TV, in real life!

Appclypse
02-07-2007, 04:41 PM
I agree with Darqraven.

He made all the points i ahve made in other threads and a couple more, we need to stop caring about advirtisments in a game. Once there in there is sod all we can do about it, and if there planed to be put in then again there is sod all we can do.

We could maybe possilby enjoy some, like Steakslim said, they could make stuff seriously cool, obviously not in this game on the scale he/she mentioned but we need not be so angry and scared of them.

lavbanka
02-12-2007, 08:58 AM
I don't care, unless they overdo it and put video ads on game startup. That just ruins the game.