Which Case?

[Mr.Bubbles43]

Which of the two cases do you prefer and why?

[Vash2051]

I like the armor but the things on the front are ****ty and squeak. And the window is all douched! Seriously why can't companies just make a nice big clear window! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144007
See big window! My case btw. Server cases rock!

[Mr.Bubbles43]

I like the armor but the things on the front are ****ty and squeak. And the window is all douched! Seriously why can't companies just make a nice big clear window! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144007
See big window! My case btw. Server cases rock!

I am looking for a water cooled case, but your doesn't seem like it would be able to cool ever much though. I think my new stuff would milt lol:p

[imported_JASONX_DK]

Which of the two cases do you prefer and why?

guess one i like ;)
the 2end tower have a bigger radiator,then in that first tower u showed us

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/4687/insidethetowerus9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[DarQraven]

Neither. I wouldn't buy liquid cooling.
It sure looks pimpin' and it sounds very 1337 to say you have a watercooled rig, but the advantage just isn't enough to offset the price difference, IMO.

It's not totally silent either, because your PSU is still going to have a fan, and the watercooling system has fans too. So, the only advantage would be slightly better cooling and nice looks.
If you're not going to push your system way above it's factory settings, don't bother with liquid cooling. For that kind of money you can get a very nice, powerful and silent CPU cooler and some sleek case fans.

As for cases: I love the Armor Jr. Mostly because I like the looks, and it's very rugged and durable. Not that I recommend throwing your PC around, but you could probably do it without any real damage too.
I don't have any personal experience with the other case.

[imported_JASONX_DK]

DarQraven did you ever hear about the word SILENT FANS
this Tai-Chi VB5001 is born with it,and my case is next to my right leg,and i allmost cant hear it.
and you say sligthly better cooling.
watercooling give you WAY better cooling,then a zalman 9500 does ;)
btw if someone is scared of waterleaks,well read what im using
http://fluidxp.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=12&Itemid=48

http://www.overclockersonline.net/index.php?page=articles&num=244&pnum=1

[Mr.Bubbles43]

Well, I am planning on overclocking everthing actually. Other than the looks part, are there any major differences between them in terms of how good their watercooling is? Also, price is not a big issue, but performance and looks are...

[MrWobbles]

This one!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811103008

[Mr.Bubbles43]

This one!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811103008

I have already looked at all the cases on newegg, which is why I gave the option between those two cases. Unless you can find some amazing case, which iis not from newegg, cause I already looked at all of those, then post it up, but for now can everyone please just either say neither or pick on please!!!!

[DarQraven]

DarQraven did you ever hear about the word SILENT FANS
this Tai-Chi VB5001 is born with it,and my case is next to my right leg,and i allmost cant hear it.
and you say sligthly better cooling.
watercooling give you WAY better cooling,then a zalman 9500 does ;)
btw if someone is scared of waterleaks,well read what im using
http://fluidxp.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=12&Itemid=48

http://www.overclockersonline.net/index.php?page=articles&num=244&pnum=1

Yes I heard about them, although I didn't know it was spelled in capital letters. Thnx for that.
Anyway, what I'm saying is that the cooling is only slightly better for normal use.
Just because you have great awesome monster cooling does not mean that your PC is going to freeze all the water around it. It's just going to end up at an idle/load temperature. Whether that temperature is 50 degrees with standard cooling, or 45 degrees with watercooling is irrelevant. Both are way below the maximum temperature. Where the real power of watercooling lies is cooling very hot systems.

A CPU that would normally run at 150 degrees without cooling, will run at about 60 with watercooling, while air cooling would only get it back to 80 or 100 (*). Watercooling has a higher capacity. However, that higher capacity does not directly translate to other situations. 150-60 = 90 Degrees cooler, but that does not mean that a CPU at 70 degrees would be cooled to -20 degrees. See what I'm trying to say? Unless you really plan to overclock, and I mean overclock a lot, watercooling isn't for you.

(*) - Figures guesstimated

[imported_JASONX_DK]

Yes I heard about them, although I didn't know it was spelled in capital letters. Thnx for that.
Anyway, what I'm saying is that the cooling is only slightly better for normal use.
Just because you have great awesome monster cooling does not mean that your PC is going to freeze all the water around it. It's just going to end up at an idle/load temperature. Whether that temperature is 50 degrees with standard cooling, or 45 degrees with watercooling is irrelevant. Both are way below the maximum temperature. Where the real power of watercooling lies is cooling very hot systems.

A CPU that would normally run at 150 degrees without cooling, will run at about 60 with watercooling, while air cooling would only get it back to 80 or 100 (*). Watercooling has a higher capacity. However, that higher capacity does not directly translate to other situations. 150-60 = 90 Degrees cooler, but that does not mean that a CPU at 70 degrees would be cooled to -20 degrees. See what I'm trying to say? Unless you really plan to overclock, and I mean overclock a lot, watercooling isn't for you.

(*) - Figures guesstimated

i can read at you just dont know anything about watercooling.
zalman idle/load around 35/50
my cpu 20/30 degrees
and no i cant see what you are trying to say,only at you talk some kind of nonsens
the more cooling you can give your cpu,the longer will it last.
and more stable will it be,and dont try to argue with me about that
btw if he want to total OC hes cpu,well get vapochill
http://www2.asetek.com/default.asp?showPage=startside.asp&contentSection=2

[DarQraven]

Judging by the arrogant, agressive tone of your posts, I'll just assume that it's not my fault you don't understand.

I do know a thing or two about watercooling, and one of those things includes the fact that watercooling has no real advantage over (good) air cooling for normal use, except for a difference in temperature in a non-critical range.
If that sounds too complicated: Watercooling is freakin' useless if a good air cooler can already get your CPU cooled to about 40-50 degrees. From that point on, it doesn't matter if it's 40 degrees, 30 degrees or minus 50 degrees; it's cool enough for the CPU to run safely.

CPU's are designed to be used over a long lifespan with their stock coolers. Unless you plan to still be using your 4800+ in 10 years, there's no point in supercooling it "so it will last longer". Face it, modern computer parts are made for about 3-5 years lifespan, and after that period, they become obsolete. There is no way I'm still ever going to use my 1Ghz Pentium 3 I bought long ago. So why go for a really expensive cooling solution that extends your parts life (questionable, temperature isn't the only thing that breaks components) if you're not planning for the parts to be used that long anyway?

If you really want watercooling, by all means buy a kit. If I had the money to spend on it, I'd probably buy it myself. It doesn't really have any downsides, except for risk of leaking, and most important: the price.
As long as my PC runs at good temps while under full load for extended periods of time, I see no need to get watercooling. Might as well get better parts for the money you save.
Certain fanatics might make it sounds like your PC is going to explode if you don't use watercooling (like JasonX_DK here), but trust me...if that was the case, Intel and AMD would have a cr*pload of lawsuits on their hands right now.
Spend your money where it counts, that's all...

[Whiteplague]

i detect a bit of hostility :D

that fluid xp stuff is cool i had wondered what happened when the water leaked? but hey i guess they fixed it

[Mr.Bubbles43]

Well I want water cooling. Cause it looks cool mostly and like I said earlier, price is not very important(to a degree obviously). Also, I plan to overclock everything as much as humanly possible and then some. That is why I want water cooling.

Also, both of you please, calm the hell down. mmmmmmkay?

[imported_JASONX_DK]

Well I want water cooling. Cause it looks cool mostly and like I said earlier, price is not very important(to a degree obviously). Also, I plan to overclock everything as much as humanly possible and then some. That is why I want water cooling.

Also, both of you please, calm the hell down. mmmmmmkay?
mmkay :laugh:

[Godfish]

I would go with this case. There is room for everything and if you don't go with water cooling this case has the most fanse I have ever seen, they are everywhere. Not to mention the thing is huge and can fit Dual 8800 GTX with plenty of room to spair.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119103

[Mr.Bubbles43]

I have already looked at all the cases on newegg, which is why I gave the option between those two cases. Unless you can find some amazing case, which is not from newegg, cause I already looked at all of those, then post it up, but for now can everyone please just either say neither or pick on please!!!!

I didn't want to quote myself but I did. I LOOKED at all cases from newegg. I have found these two cases and I want you to tell me which one you like from those two, not others!

I know you are trying to help, but it is not very helfpul:rolleyes:

[Godfish]

I would go with the VB500. It looks to have more room for all those goodies I am sure your gonna put in.

Are you going to be using liquid cooling? I am pretty sure your gonna considering there are pretty much no fans on these two towers. But I would go with the VB500, having the cooling inside the case door looks like it adds more room for more drives and what not.

[imported_JASONX_DK]

I would go with the VB500. It looks to have more room for all those goodies I am sure your gonna put in.

Are you going to be using liquid cooling? I am pretty sure your gonna considering there are pretty much no fans on these two towers. But I would go with the VB500, having the cooling inside the case door looks like it adds more room for more drives and what not.
hmm wierd ive got four 120mm fans in my tower :confused:

[Mr.Bubbles43]

hmm wierd ive got four 120mm fans in my tower :confused:

Magic!!!!:yay:

[I am RKO]

They both like ten times better than mine soo.. either

[imported_JASONX_DK]

Magic!!!!:yay:

wooow awesome :rock: lmao

[Kadath]

I have the armor in silver and I really like it. :)