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jodoanyore
05-28-2007, 08:03 PM
Well, I'm ok with my Windows XP. My only interest in Vista are it's capabilities for gaming due to DX10.

After the launch and test of the demo Lost Planet in DX10, Vista is going down quickly. All the sites that tested the demo in DX9 and DX10 find that DX10 is about 20% slower than DX9 and you can hardly find graphic improvements in DX10. For worst, ATI DX10 cards just don't give the note.

In resume, if you have a top Vista PC of over US$ 3000 you cannot play the game with the same res and frame rate of the X360... uffff.

So, where are the Vista improvements? I think MS executives must be worried about this. And Crysis, as THE game that we are waiting to see DX10 benefits will have it hard.

[MyIS]DAD_23
05-28-2007, 08:19 PM
I have both Vista and XP.
I have tried Vista for a couple games but in the end put all my games on my XP drive.
Vista was bringing down my frames a too much.

So ya, as of right now there is NO reason to use Vista at all.
Will Crysis be the game that gives us a reason to deal with Vista?
Will there be a big enough difference in the game from XP(DX9) to Vista(DX10) to make us use Vista?

Tell ya what, if Crysis ends up being way better on Vista, Mico$oft sure will owe Crytek, BIG TIME!

Iwantcable
05-29-2007, 12:17 AM
Tell ya what, if Crysis ends up being way better on Vista, Mico$oft sure will owe Crytek, BIG TIME!

Yup, their Halo 2 Vista/Games for Windows Live plan failed miserably.

Kadath
05-29-2007, 04:44 AM
You can't blame Ms for the very very very bad driver support. ;)

And the most games are for me as fast as in XP.

DarQraven
05-29-2007, 10:26 AM
Well, what exactly was their Halo 2 Vista/Live plan?
Release a 2 year old last-gen game at full price on an OS that noone, including the game, really needs, make a really bad hackjob out of it, and expect the customer to pay 60 euros per year to play it online. If you put it like that, my sister could have told you it would fail instantly;)

As for performance: Vista only runs my games as fast as XP does when I reduce it's memory footprint. Which means deactivating all the fancy stuff that makes Vista, Vista. Essentially, you're then left with a severely overpriced XP.
I tried the Lost Planet demo too. It looks pretty awesome in DX10, but ... it also looks exactly the same in DX9, and runs about twice as fast. Not a good thing for Vista, if you ask me.
However, I also get the feeling that Crytek is making some DX9 parts a bit less pretty on purpose. I mean, MS really NEEDS this game to prove that Vista is worth anything at all to gamers. If it doesn't, we'll be waiting another year before the next DX10 game comes out.
So I'm suspecting there has been a little .. encouragement ... on MS's side to really go wild on the DX10 effects, yet go easy with the DX9 version. Can't prove anything though...

jodoanyore
05-29-2007, 01:37 PM
However, I also get the feeling that Crytek is making some DX9 parts a bit less pretty on purpose. I mean, MS really NEEDS this game to prove that Vista is worth anything at all to gamers.

I think that doing DX9 version less pretty on purpose to favor DX10 is not an option of Crytek/EA. One of the main concern of the community is what kind of PC you will need to play Crysis, so I think that the only reason to do that is to achieve that Crysis will run in 3 years old PCs, as Crytek said.

Honestly I think that the DX9 version of Crysis is almost ready, and probably now they are working to improve DX10 performance, basically because the DX10 video cards are new and finally this year Crytek was able to test Crysis in a 100% DX10 environment.

Will it work on DX10? Will it work in Ati's cards as well as Nvidia's? Is Crytek sure that DX10 IS the platform? Maybe the conclusion of all of this will be that a DX10.b is needed, and there will be no great games until a Vista SP1.

Killa4live
05-31-2007, 01:19 PM
Problem is not with DX10, it is just that everyone now must make DX10 games, get better in it and get better drivers from GPU guys. These developers are just scared ****less, because the opertunities are such enormous with 8 serie and ATI 2xxx serie + DX10 that they have no idea where to start, as in DX9 u would have strict baselines.

If ur exactly told by someone what to do or if u have to find out everything for yourself... which will work faster?

Some people think that DX10 is only around for a couple of months, but i think it will be closer to a couple of years if u look at DX9 (updates like 10.a will also not come soon and will work on a DX10 card, else it would be named higher like 10.5 or even 11)

OGFrostbite
06-07-2007, 12:25 PM
windows live suck....period:shakehead::shakehead::shakehead:

got halo2 for vista and cant connect on live to play multiplayer:censored::censored::censored::censored :

Vash2051
06-07-2007, 12:49 PM
Thats weird because all the new 3dguru benchies of hardware compare vista fps to xp fps and they are EXACTLY the same. So wheres the performance loss now? Oh wait there is none anymore.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/431/23/
look for yourself

Kadath
06-07-2007, 04:53 PM
It was never a problem of vista, but compatibility on side of the hardware, drvers and games.
You also see there, that the higher the resolution gets, the better is the 2900xt. You could mention that this means, that this card is better for the future.

Iwantcable
06-15-2007, 08:58 AM
I just hope Crysis lives up to the hype. If not, I'm going to have to eat my own words :(.

JerryAgent
06-16-2007, 07:36 AM
Remember Crysis isn't the problem, they even included things that we wouldn't have technology for for another 18 months. Crysis will be THE current game for awhile, we just have to wait for everything to catch up to it.

paradisetodiefor
07-04-2007, 11:56 PM
You know the main reason Im getting vista is for crysis cus Im just now getting a computer and tryin to pimp it out to play crysis fluently and on max and vask in all its glory

GIJLowe
07-08-2007, 04:36 AM
My computer's already good enough to play things beautifully on DX9, But after reading this thread I can't decide if I should wait and see before upgrading my whole rig to DX10... I was gonna just go ahead and be fully prepared for Crysis, but it sounds like Vista and all that DX10 stuff is still a little sketchy.
Maybe I'll just leave it as-is and see how I like the DX9 version (wait they both come with the game right? there won't be 2 separate games, one 9 and one 10, right?)
I dunno... I'm still excited though :confused::p:D