Wake 2142

[Stryker]

I hope there is a Wake 2142 ? That would be sweet with a floating Carrier thats movable. Brings BF's most famous map to the future. What do you guys think about the idea? The high tech you allow better tactics, perhaps increase the size of the battlefield? Maybe add 2 or 3 floating carriers to both sides. Sounds to cool to ever come true. Still good to dream :D

[[MyIS]Spetsnaz]

Nah, I'd like to see one of the most popular maps in BF2 carried over ... Karkand!

A futuristic version of it of course! Maybe a destroyed future city or something.

[Ownerofall]

Spetsnaz']Nah, I'd like to see one of the most popular maps in BF2 carried over ... Karkand!

A futuristic version of it of course! Maybe a destroyed future city or something.

Yeah, but without the armor, make it an infantry only

[Stryker]

There going to have tons of futuristic cities since thats what there fighting for. Perhaps snowy Karkand ? Or snowy Wake ? lol

[Ownerofall]

Lol not sure, all fighting takes place on narrow strip of land around equator says PC gamer, so not sure what cities that includes...

[graaaeme10]

I think wake will definitely be included, I mean it's been in Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield 2, so I dont see why not. Maybe some crashed JSF's lying around or something?

[Ownerofall]

Wake isnt on the equator, the area where wake is gets frozen over by ice in the trailer

[[21CW]Switz]

Karkhand without tanks OMG That would be the greatest!!!

[Ownerofall]

Yeah, we only run 16 man karkand on our 24/7 karkand server and 32 man karkand on our 24/7 city maps server, 64 man is just too much armor

[Stryker]

Ice Wake could be fun to though. Adds more of a challenge, and some sweet tactics. Plus they can add a story like a large "Carrier" of troops headed to combat in Africa where meet with Pan Asian Forces in an effort to drive them back into the ice. Battle for Wake 2142.

[ConscriptVirus]

Wake isnt on the equator, the area where wake is gets frozen over by ice in the trailer

lol..no carrier then unless its like sunken and left over from the war now..in bf2

[Stryker]

The carriers in the future hover over the water and can fly. They should also be movable.

[Splinter]

Ahhh wake, 1 of my fav maps. I do hope it's in 2142

[RSS_TheGryffon]

No because 2007 did the job of bringing wake back, wake 2142 would just be flogging a dead horse

[Stryker]

Wake can still be used though. Just instead it won't be tropical and all water will be ice. With dozens of snow dunes for cover.

[MooneyBravo]

They say most of the fighting is going to be in the North Africa area....so you know what that means? El Alamein/Gazala/Tobruk/Battleaxe/Aberdeen are up for a 2142 conversion.

[$kelet0r]

I'd prefer to see a break from the old and a complete fresh start - no old themed maps just for the sake of it

[JackReacher]

Yeah
Im sure we'll see that map in a future patch, for bf242..

[ReaperOfsouls]

I hate karkand. I used ot like it but now I hate it. Wake all the way.

[xxipxx]

New York 2142, so you can hop in a walker and destroy buildings like Godzilla

[CommanderDiego]

Ice wake and destroyed karkand!

[gungho]

Wake 2142, gr8 idea :D

[The JizzBomber]

Yeah a Wake island or Karkand 2142 map would be awesome. But I would think they would package them in some type of patch or something later on...I want to see new maps first, before I revisit the past.

[ReaperOfsouls]

Lol at xxipxx and commander lol.

[Ownerofall]

i can just picture streets of karkand crowded with mechs...

[UK-Sniper]

wake would have been engulfed in the ice sheet.

[NiSsE]

For those who have read the article in the Pc gamer know that it's only Europe and Asia left the rest of the world is a big ice mountain >.< soo a Wake 2142 sorry but it's under hundreds of meters whit ice lol.

[W4rdoG]

i think wake island will be by then sunk from all the battles that have been on it :0

[Ownerofall]

yeah that or the ice, whatever got to it first :rolleyes:

[DMXSNOW]

Wake 2142 will sound like an excellent choice to bring back. They can take out the old fighter planes or bury them down further, and have the old US ship half way sunk in, or the Chinese airfield destroyed in ruins.

[Sniped2U]

Nah. It's based in Africa or something, so chances of getting Karkand and Wake Island are very slim. But hey, you never know.

[Slugger]

I think that Wake 2142 is a great idea.. Its like one of the best maps for 42 and BF2

[Ownerofall]

I looked up the location of the real wake island (yes, theres a real one thats exactly the same as the bf2 level) on Google Earth, and found its between hawaii and guam, about 2 thirds of the way. This ocean area could in theory have not been frozen over

[UK-Sniper]

Nah. It's based in Africa or something, so chances of getting Karkand and Wake Island are very slim. But hey, you never know.

Karkand could be close to north africa;) . Middle East isnt that far away.

[Ownerofall]

Karkand could be close to north africa;) . Middle East isnt that far away.

possibly, check this out

http://www.totalbf2142.com/showthread.php?t=111

[[ECGN]_DarkGhost]

go bf2142 woo!

[Stryker]

possibly, check this out

http://www.totalbf2142.com/showthread.php?t=111

I posted under the link, but would also like to state here that I didn't know today America still owns Wake, so in 2142 European union would be on the island and Pan Asian would be attacking from the floating carrier.

What if pictures of Wake 2142....
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/637/braticeabove1hj.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=braticeabove1hj.jpg)
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/752/frozensea6zw.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frozensea6zw.jpg)
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5967/hmtemo7jq0ns.th.gif (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hmtemo7jq0ns.gif)
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3935/p144c2r4099fn.th.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p144c2r4099fn.jpg)

[vbl]

Remember, the un-iced land in 2142 is around the Equator, so potential theaters will be along it.

[Ownerofall]

wake is inline with hawaii (a little more south) so near equator kindof

[David Champion]

Post Apocalyptic Kark would rock some many boxers it wouldn't even be funny :)

Ooooo a frozen river perhaps?! Snow!, you'd could have access to rooftops...

I wonder if the out of bounds zones will insta-freeze your butts :)

[[LMS] Stanic]

definitly wake 2142

[Ownerofall]

y not both?

[Stryker]

Indeed the more maps the better ! BF2 had a lack of maps for ranked servers. If there was 20 maps to play from then maybe maps would be funner becuase they would be more spread out. 13 maps Doesn't cut it EA < neither does 15.

[Punisher18]

wake2142 would be so uneven.lol all the things that make the chinese dominate now(depending on the team) would make it even more.

[Curtis12]

well it would be cool but wouldnt it be covered with ice unless it drifted

[Raphael]

ya karkand, mashtuur, sharqui novehicles owns all

or a urban china map

[PsYcHo.KiLLa]

This is my opinion on a Karkand 2142 map:

1. Hazy/foggy, not too shrouded though. Like as visible as the streets were in the movie "Silent Hill".

2. The city itself would be futuristic, but with a Middle-Eastern flair.

3. Have the lighting be kind of that "6:00 AM", when the dark of the night is almost all the way gone.

4. There should be mechs, but not the big ones, and only one or two per side. With the visibility of the erea, the mechs would not be over-powered, and since it is a city map, anti-mech shots could easy be dispached without be seen. Also, a few supports should be able to bring one down.

5. MORE BUILDINGS THAT YOU CAN GO INSIDE OF!!!! (That would be cool)

Anyway, that's all I can think of.
I'm going to start a thread that's kind of like this one, but more broad.

[Stryker]

Karkand but bigger, stretch it out across all the zone we can't cross now.

[NiSsE]

I Karkand or Wake would be fun but they are both under ice :(

[MooneyBravo]

They say most of the fighting is going to be in the North Africa area....so you know what that means? El Alamein/Gazala/Tobruk/Battleaxe/Aberdeen are up for a 2142 conversion.

I think this is what to expect as far as remakes are concerned.

[Punisher18]

I think this is what to expect as far as remakes are concerned.
Doesnt bother me. :)

[Stryker]

Just thought I would bump this up.
Think of Titan Mode on Wake 2142 !

[alecs36]

Meh, rather have Gulf of Oman put over!

[KiLL3rStr0GG]

id rather they came up with fully original maps

[ElekTriC]

i think wake will be under the ice :D

[ReaperOfsouls]

Meh, rather have Gulf of Oman put over!

Hells ya.

[NeoGenesis]

Yeah Wake would be a good map to include into BF2142..

But dont give your hopes up lol

[Xaritix]

Wake Island would probably be slightly affected by the ice, maby have an ice sheet covering half of it or something like that, but btw, ice covered areas would still be habitable, like for example, the eskimos live, today, in a place thats as cold as my feet, and btw, New York would be covered by ice, but it would be cool to see a ruined, empty city, with a layer of ice covering it, with the tops of buildings and the upper half of the statue of liberty, and don't forget about the southern US, they weren't covered by ice in the trailor, and neither was SoCal, we can assume, so hahaha, I live in SoCal, so the adopted chinese grandchildren of me and Paris Hilton will be safe from the ice, and maby it might actually snow in LA! lol

[edit] actually, by adopted grandchildren, I mean children of our adopted children (preferably child)

[NeoGenesis]

Dont think you will see any American Based Maps in 2142 unfortunatly

[Alaz]

I was thinking of Wake2142 a week or so ago, i imagined a thin sheet of ice covering parts of the water, like a thin connection between South Base and North village that is too weak to take any vehicles on without cracking and collapsing so it would only accomodate infantry or something. Maybe there could be some icebergs floating about or something too.

I'd like to see at least one fav map taken over for good times sake.

[NeoGenesis]

It would be good, but i would rather sacrifice an old remake for a completley new map :). I mean we have played the same maps for over a year, sure a new 'old remake' would be cool at first, but then it will just be repetitve again.

[ReaperOfsouls]

I agree neo, they should do a remake with all the things that people wanted to see in wak 2007 and of couse put a futuristic spin on it.

[Splinter]

+1 for wake 2142 (but no titan, half the fun on wake is to assault the island)
no fun if the whole ship just floats over a flag
-1 for Kark 2142

[NeoGenesis]

Yeah, i dont think Wake is a good Titan Map.

[Stryker]

Im gonna bump this thread just to see if opinions changed after playing the beta and or watching the many videos and screenshots released.
Plus maybe a Dice member will see it <<<<

[Angi-g]

I think a future wake would be awsome!, commander orders all the carrieres to fly over land and just parashoot onto a rageing battlefield with bullets and missiles flying everywhere. i think it would be SWEET!
but thats my point of view
Angi-G

[CrysisPwnz]

That;d be funny seeing an old world war 2 plane, next to a j-10 next to a doragon that crash landed ont he artillery islands

[Fabol]

Or they could do it like this: The PAC won the battle over Wake in BF2, so in the future, it becomes a sort of base camp where they build MECH's and other weapons. The EU assaults it because they want to take out the main base.

And besides, isn't Wake in the Pacific? Asia got frozen over, so the PAC needed to move their base to a warmer climate location. I think it would be cool.

[Stryker]

I don't think Wake is frozen over, maybe a weather change now that it would be alittle colder. I can picture the map in my mind here it is I tried my hardest to make it out but I couldn't find a BF2 Wake Island map so I used a Bf1942 map, bare with me.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4176/wake2142mu4.gif

[CrysisPwnz]

I for one think if they increase the area around the island, just blank water it could make for a fun Titan map, not a real Titan map but the Titans just act like mobile flying fortresses. Remember in 1942 wake had a bunch of cannons and stuff that could take out the carrier, they should have those and missile things at the end of each map.

Karkand would be fun in 2142... but the PAC would be at a disadvantage with the Nekomata.

[RavenRealms]

Spetsnaz;775']Nah, I'd like to see one of the most popular maps in BF2 carried over ... Karkand!

A futuristic version of it of course! Maybe a destroyed future city or something.

I'll second that.

[wolfi]

Karkhand without tanks OMG That would be the greatest!!!

Agreed. That would definately be a winner :P

[coolbho3000]

Wake is a Battlefield tradition, I would certainly like to see it in 2142. :)

Or they could do it like this: The PAC won the battle over Wake in BF2, so in the future, it becomes a sort of base camp where they build MECH's and other weapons. The EU assaults it because they want to take out the main base.

And besides, isn't Wake in the Pacific? Asia got frozen over, so the PAC needed to move their base to a warmer climate location. I think it would be cool.

Only one problem: The PAC didn't exist in 2007. :laugh:

I don't think how they could really fit the story into Wake, Europe and Asia are so physically far away from the island.

[ReaperOfsouls]

Wow way to dig up an old *** thread but its still better than making a new one :)

I say it as a said before, a futuristic wake would be hard core.

[CrysisPwnz]

He means PLA :P

[Grohyt]

Would be weird to have it without getting spammed with bombs evey 2 minues.

Sounds good!!

[Kite_Shugo]

I can't wait till someone transfers karkand over to bf2142 and puts titan mode in it :laugh:

[Roger Smith]

yes wake with no j10, sounds awsome!

[ReaperOfsouls]

Lol aint that the truth.

[3lliot3vans]

Dice like to punish us, expect to see j-10s in 2142 wake :laugh:

To be honest they just repeating wake once, how is that a tradition?
Burnt out conquest karkand would be better, i dont know earth quake hit or something so roads are ruined so no armour, happy? :D

[BlackOps_Book]

What about this:

2141 The EU has decided to move their secret mech construction facility just south of the Ice shelf in the middle of what was the Pacific ocean. On an island they have built a mech production facility to manufacture an assault wave to eventually to spearhead an 'attack from the rear" against the PAC. having learned of this plan...the PAC has established a base of operations to the Wets of the facility on an abandoned carrier and the surrounding ice.

No Titans...but PAC starts with 6 transport ships which DO NOT respawn (only 1 does). They must destroy the radar facility to the North and the air defense facility to the South...penetrate the defenses of the manufacture facility and destroy its capabilities

http://xs305.xs.to/xs305/06352/Wake2141.jpg

[3lliot3vans]

Good way to make a 1st post ;)
Welcome! like your idea!

[ReDStaR]

personally, i'd say have all of the water frozen over and make it a titan map. missile silos on the island (neutral) and titans in the same spots as the carriers on bf1942, one in the northwest and one in the southeast.

[CrysisPwnz]

Other way around IMO, It's been chinese for a long time, keep it with the PAC or new PLA

[CrysisPwnz]

It would totally be IMBA!! The Nekomata wouldnt be able to move so EU would get the vehicle advantage, I'd like to see a HUGE city map, war torn with buildings reaching the skies and its just infantry but with choppers too, always wanted to weave around cities with a chopper like in Godzilla :D

[Roger Smith]

you know that destroyed blackhawk near north base, the 2142 version of the map should have a destroyed j10 in its place, symbolising the fact that 2142s gameplay isnt a jet whores dream.

[ReaperOfsouls]

LOL, that was said on the 3rd or 4th page of this thread months ago.

The idea still lives!

[Willee]

you know that destroyed blackhawk near north base, the 2142 version of the map should have a destroyed j10 in its place, symbolising the fact that 2142s gameplay isnt a jet whores dream.

How would you get the J-10 onto the ground? Using the JSF? :laugh:

[Stryker]

Wake 2142 wouldn't have alot of water since there are no boats, im not sure but do APC's float ? Titan Wake would be fun, Conquest Wake aswell, hey we don't only have to settle for one. A crashed J10 would be cool, as well as a sinking carrier frozen in ice.

[zuiquan1]

What about this:

2141 The EU has decided to move their secret mech construction facility just south of the Ice shelf in the middle of what was the Pacific ocean. On an island they have built a mech production facility to manufacture an assault wave to eventually to spearhead an 'attack from the rear" against the PAC. having learned of this plan...the PAC has established a base of operations to the Wets of the facility on an abandoned carrier and the surrounding ice.

No Titans...but PAC starts with 6 transport ships which DO NOT respawn (only 1 does). They must destroy the radar facility to the North and the air defense facility to the South...penetrate the defenses of the manufacture facility and destroy its capabilities

http://xs305.xs.to/xs305/06352/Wake2141.jpg


you know, I really, really like this idea. Having the airfield be all industrialized and having huge hangers and factories would give this map a huge facelift, maybe having the old aircraft carrier be like the one from BF2, or even BF42 with a Nimitz(if you played DC) and have it have sunk, half covered in Ice. It would be awsome

And havung it like an objective map were you have to destroy the various radars, and factories would make it EXTREMELY fun to play.

I say we push to get this idea ingame. Colin, are you reading this?

:D

[CrysisPwnz]

Yes... because they'll add actual objectives and some sort of uber map when the game comes out in like a month...

[Roger Smith]

How would you get the J-10 onto the ground? Using the JSF? :laugh:lol, the same way i always do, cap all the bases and they have no place to rearm, then they bail. its the only way to beat good j10ers.

[CrysisPwnz]

I had that happen to me once, all you need is to fly over a supply crate like 3 times

[Stryker]

Wake island is a really small map in Bf2, compared to BF1942. 80 % of the cover was from trees,rocks, and grass. Now that it's the ice age those things have changed, snow would have to play a huge role in cover. Adding places where the C7 can blow the ice open so if anyone tries to cross it they fall into the water :laugh: Make the snow form paths so that blowing a whole in the ice is effective and not something you can go around. Every 5-10(maybe 7) minutes it will refreeze and you can cross it with tanks.

[ArmadonRK]

Has anyone heard? US Forces have evacuated Wake Island because of a predicted class-5 hurricane. There may be no Wake island in 2007, let alone 2142.


The Doomsayer (http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93195)

The Evacuation (http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93334)

[CrysisPwnz]

Wow, an Hurrican that could tear an island off the face of the Earth... sounds fun.

Anyway I'd love for a map with some lakes but not lakes, like covered and frozen with ice but you can detonate it with C7's and get a tank to fall in :) maybe in the future we'll have games and pcs where you can cover stuff with snow and dirt.

[Stryker]

Has anyone heard? US Forces have evacuated Wake Island because of a predicted class-5 hurricane. There may be no Wake island in 2007, let alone 2142.


The Doomsayer (http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93195)

The Evacuation (http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93334)

Acoording to those links Wake Island is going to sink into the ocean and everything on the island destroyed...No more wake :cry: :cry: :cry:

Now it's just an air only map with 2 carriers ;)

[zuiquan1]

Yes... because they'll add actual objectives and some sort of uber map when the game comes out in like a month...

They added wake Island to BF2 in a patch..the same could be done for 2142.....

[Sir. Shpox]

Considering the game is based on the same engine, don't think it's not easy to make one ;)

[Cmall1113]

I wouldnt care if they made a wake 2142 as long as its balanced.....please be balanced, playing as US is not always fun lol

[Roger Smith]

I wouldnt care if they made a wake 2142 as long as its balanced.....please be balanced, playing as US is not always fun lolno j10=perfect wake island.

[SoldierJAW]

wake sucks karkand ftw

[CrysisPwnz]

You honestly think they're going to add a whole nother game mode in a patch, knowing BF's history on those little presents I wouldnt be surprised if my computer crashed after I click "Join"

[zuiquan1]

You honestly think they're going to add a whole nother game mode in a patch, knowing BF's history on those little presents I wouldnt be surprised if my computer crashed after I click "Join"

In BF42 they added Battle of Brittain in a patch, wich was EXACTLY the type of search and destroy type game mode as the one he was describing in wake. Now knowing BF2's history than hell no, but maybe...just maybe dice has learnt there lesson and will treat the community better, like in the old days.











Than again, maybe not:|

[Stryker]

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5450/wakeislandnc2.jpg

Maybe they can make Wake Island bigger if they make it for BF2142

The carriers in the future hover over the water and can fly. They should also be movable. Quote by me on April 20, 2006 before I knew about titan mode lol

[CrysisPwnz]

Where do you get all these?

[ReaperOfsouls]

Google is your friend lol.

Plus we had a thread about it 4 months ago about the whole fight in WW2 for wake island.

[CrysisPwnz]

I figured Google Earth..

[ReaperOfsouls]

Then why you ask?

[basra Bob]

i didnt know it was a real place :D

[Stryker]

Where do you get all these?

Goggle Earth (http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html)<----Click me :D

It's great to use and it's free

[ReaperOfsouls]

i didnt know it was a real place :D

Ya its got a really intresting history.

[basra Bob]

that ariel photo has goten me into playing 1942 now, sigh. Off to the battlefield for me

[CrysisPwnz]

See Google Earth is always my first quess when it comes to real top down footage :)

I asked because Strykers been getting alot of pics lately, alot in this thread lol.

How did you NOT know Wake Island was a real place, arent all the maps real places in 1942 (which I had for like 3 days so dont flame me if im wrong)

[rowdyman]

wake would have been engulfed in the ice sheet.

Thank you!:salute: The highest point of the atoll is like six meters above sea level! It simply will not work for the story line of 2142.

[Stryker]

Thank you!:salute: The highest point of the atoll is like six meters above sea level! It simply will not work for the story line of 2142.

Yes it would, Wake island could be a Titan air-strip where titans get repaired etc. EA/Dice can make Wake how ever they want, with Ice all around it, with some water not frozen etc. It is in the middle of the ocean.

In Wake 2007 we were fighting PLA for Wake but in reality it should have been USMC base and PLA attacking.

[SaUrOn]

Wake went from Battlefield 1942 to Battlefield Vietnam to Battlefield 2, it should not be skipped now.

[Spork]

Just say Wake Island was blown off the face of the planet, Whose to say that in 2139 Dubai or what ever that Miniature world is called may create a new Wake island, Just for the now giant EA/Dice Partnership of Battlefield 40142.

It's a game, I would prefer to play on my favourite map even if the island is made out of metal and hovers 500 metres above ground.

Cheers :)

[Sir Robin]

I really can't see them leaving Wake out of BF2142, at least showing up in a patch or expansion. Probably an expansion so they can make more money off of its popularity.

Wake has become a BF tradition at this point so I am sure it will make an appearance though its not included in the release version.

[Stryker]

I wonder how many ads they can fit on Wake 2142, then again IT"S A MILITARY ISLAND, why would it have ads? :D

[Thameth]

Acoording to those links Wake Island is going to sink into the ocean and everything on the island destroyed...No more wake :cry: :cry: :cry:

Now it's just an air only map with 2 carriers ;)

Read it again, it said the island will be completely submerged by storm surge. But when the hurricane passes the storm surge will receed and the island will be right where it was above sea level. The island isn't going anywhere unless sea level raises a few feet.....

[flight_1]

wake will be different in 2142 because the sea level will lower.

[wolfi]

How would you get the J-10 onto the ground? Using the JSF? :laugh:

Well, let a noob fly :p

[GreenHornet]

How about some Sharqui? :)

[MrBenis]

bla bla bla bla nostalgia

DEFINITELY NO

Come on! People! Wake island should have died peacefully in BF1942. God knows why you all wanted it for BF2. Please, don't ruin 2142 by having this disgrace for a map added.

[Stryker]

DEFINITELY NO

Come on! People! Wake island should have died peacefully in BF1942. God knows why you all wanted it for BF2. Please, don't ruin 2142 by having this disgrace for a map added.


I never said that "bla bla bla bla nostalgia"

[Willee]

DEFINITELY NO

Come on! People! Wake island should have died peacefully in BF1942. God knows why you all wanted it for BF2. Please, don't ruin 2142 by having this disgrace for a map added.

Then, don't play it?

[zuiquan1]

oooh what about El Alamein:cool:

:p