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eyepuppy
04-24-2006, 12:38 AM
Is it just me or does BF2142 look like C&C Renegade mixed with MechWarrior? Look, stealth units (renegade), The mechs look like those found in MechWarrior, then the VTOL looks exactly like the orca from renegade.

Am i just crazy?

vbl
04-24-2006, 12:39 AM
BF2142 most closely resembles Planetside.

[MyIS]Spetsnaz
04-24-2006, 01:42 AM
I think it's nearly impossible to create a game based in the "plausible" future without having a trace of other games.

I'm a very simplistic person in that regard though. Trademark infringement is a problem they need to deal with if it comes up. My place in this equation is to step on people with a Mech :D

WarGimp
04-24-2006, 02:03 AM
OGM!
You're right!
It's a total ripoff!

You can jump, which is obviously stolen from Mario Brothers.
There's things you can run over to get stronger, right out of Pacman.
You can shoot, which is a rip off from Astoroids.
It's first person, which means it definatly plagorized Wolfinsten 3D.
You move through the the world in real time, which must be a nod to Leasure Suit Larry In the Land of the Lounge Lizzards!!

My point is everything is derivitive of something else.

stlava
04-24-2006, 02:18 AM
I don't know i think they should have worked on an new engine for bf3 and gone back to ww2.

Ownerofall
04-24-2006, 03:24 AM
OGM!
You're right!
It's a total ripoff!

You can jump, which is obviously stolen from Mario Brothers.
There's things you can run over to get stronger, right out of Pacman.
You can shoot, which is a rip off from Astoroids.
It's first person, which means it definatly plagorized Wolfinsten 3D.
You move through the the world in real time, which must be a nod to Leasure Suit Larry In the Land of the Lounge Lizzards!!

My point is everything is derivitive of something else.

hahaha

gungho
04-24-2006, 01:04 PM
Leasure Suit Larry In the Land of the Lounge Lizzards!!

ROFL !

$kelet0r
04-24-2006, 03:18 PM
Originally Posted by WarGimp
Leasure Suit Larry In the Land of the Lounge Lizzards!!A game with no parallel :)

torment
04-24-2006, 07:14 PM
get over it lol...

[LMS] Stanic
04-24-2006, 10:14 PM
i think its battlefield 2 with a sort of futuristic mini mod. there were still be the basics, just futurized

eyepuppy
04-24-2006, 10:39 PM
OGM!
You're right!
It's a total ripoff!

You can jump, which is obviously stolen from Mario Brothers.
There's things you can run over to get stronger, right out of Pacman.
You can shoot, which is a rip off from Astoroids.
It's first person, which means it definatly plagorized Wolfinsten 3D.
You move through the the world in real time, which must be a nod to Leasure Suit Larry In the Land of the Lounge Lizzards!!

My point is everything is derivitive of something else.

Umm... Shooting a fireball from mario is not a copy of astroids. It's completly different. When you go over something in pacman to grow, the idea is the same, but there is still major differences. Every FPS is the same as every FPS just like every RTS is like every RTS. It's the gameplay that makes the game different. Don't comment on something that you can not test for yourself. Anyway, back to what I was actually saying before you mixed up the real message. The vehicles are the same as other games, like the VTOL. It is a straigh copy from the orca in renegade (a great game still!) and the mech look like copies of mechs from MechWarrior or if any of you know the game mechwarrior is based off of, battle tech.

Please try not to twist what people say.

WarGimp
04-24-2006, 11:37 PM
Umm... Shooting a fireball from mario is not a copy of astroids. It's completly different. When you go over something in pacman to grow, the idea is the same, but there is still major differences.

The compairisons where not supposed to be serious. I'm attempting to show you how rediculous you could take your claims if you want to.

Every FPS is the same as every FPS just like every RTS is like every RTS. It's the gameplay that makes the game different.

Apples are like oranges because they are both fruit.

Don't comment on something that you can not test for yourself.

Whoa! You mean you're playing BF2142 already? Wow, yer a lucky SOB!

Anyway, back to what I was actually saying before you mixed up the real message. The vehicles are the same as other games, like the VTOL. It is a straigh copy from the orca in renegade (a great game still!) and the mech look like copies of mechs from MechWarrior or if any of you know the game mechwarrior is based off of, battle tech.

Those VTOL designs are just realistic. As vectored thrust technology improves, using jet engines instead of huge propellers makes more sence. More power, more control, less potential for things breaking off and futzing up your day. The problem right now is that engine efficency isn't there for it yet. Control systems have only recently hit the levels where you'd be able to keep something like that in the air.

The tech aside, realize that Terminator had those HK things flying around before C&C came out. The Orca design is just an Apachie with it's roater removed. Battletech/Mechwarrior didn't invent the mech either. Many of their designs were directly ripped off from Macross (Robotech in north America) which was inspired by older Mangas. The concept of the Mech has been around for a looooooong time.

You missed the APC's simularity to the one in Aliens. The designers didn't. In the PCGamer artical, they commented on it themselves.

Point is, these elements are definatly inspired by other things. The whole BF series's gameplay was inspired by Tribes (the devs where not even a little bit shy about stating this publicly).

Please try not to twist what people say.
But it's so much fun!
Especially when there's no real twisting involved.

"If words are weapons, they are double edged swords"
-Unknown

Punisher18
04-25-2006, 11:06 PM
hahaha who would copy bf2142...

eyepuppy
04-26-2006, 01:29 AM
I am not saying someone copies BF2142, I am saying BF2 copied other games. The VTOL is a copy of the orca from renegade. Exact shell. Then the mechs are close to those from Mechwarrior (or battletech). And the marauder was the only copy from robotech. I am a hardcore robotech fan and there only minor similarities. Heck, the Atlas. OMG I love that mech. Load it up with some LBX 20s! Aww I love that thing! Anyway, back to topic. All I am saying is that they could go farther with there designs then just straight copies.

Ohh, and C&C (the first one) was out before Terminator was with the VTOLs. If you remember back that far, you would remember the orca in there.

NoRC
04-26-2006, 03:34 PM
Personally to me BF2142... sounds and looks like ... wait for it...

Starsiege 2845 (http://www.ss2845.com/)

Everything lines up, hell 2142... vs. 2845.... only a couple hundred years difference. Granted that Starsiege has had its footings around alot longer than the BF series, I'd go for that as being the start point.

As it stands i lhave stopped playing BF2 in exchange for looking at SS2845 currently, partly because im a huge Tribes fan and fan of the Starsiege & Earthsiege games. That and i still have my original Mech Warrior box & cd's floating around somewhere. A day will come and I will get back into BF2... Well BF2142 that is.

ReaperOfsouls
04-26-2006, 09:29 PM
OGM!
You're right!
It's a total ripoff!

You can jump, which is obviously stolen from Mario Brothers.
There's things you can run over to get stronger, right out of Pacman.
You can shoot, which is a rip off from Astoroids.
It's first person, which means it definatly plagorized Wolfinsten 3D.
You move through the the world in real time, which must be a nod to Leasure Suit Larry In the Land of the Lounge Lizzards!!

My point is everything is derivitive of something else.

Lol good stuff.

PsYcHo.KiLLa
04-27-2006, 12:15 AM
OGM!
You're right!
It's a total ripoff!

You can jump, which is obviously stolen from Mario Brothers.
There's things you can run over to get stronger, right out of Pacman.
You can shoot, which is a rip off from Astoroids.
It's first person, which means it definatly plagorized Wolfinsten 3D.
You move through the the world in real time, which must be a nod to Leasure Suit Larry In the Land of the Lounge Lizzards!!

My point is everything is derivitive of something else.
Haha, nice. :D

Splinter
04-27-2006, 01:12 PM
most games ripp off each other look at Bf2 it ripped of C&C Generals
bf2 play as USA, China or MEC (middle east army)
C&C Generals= play as USA, China or GLA(middle east army) even if their only terrorits.

straylight
04-28-2006, 12:57 AM
I would have to agree, to a certain extent about there being a dearth of material to draw from- and in that conclusing theres less originality.

Its tough to come out with an FPS nowadays. I mean everything has been DONE, done WELL (http://storefront.steampowered.com/v2/index.php?area=game&AppId=70&) in some cases, and done NOT SO WELL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daikatana) in others but just the same, who copied who? Look at all the weapons in our favaorite FPS's. sniper rifle, sub machine gun, high powered MG, shotgun, pistol- what game am I talking about? it could be anything form HALO to Counterstike. Im not condoning idea theft- originality still counts, and its not like we, as gamers, lack the creativity the the movie industry does (just google hollywood remake).

How many of us see similarities in what the 'soldier of the future' looks like when we compare them to say, the infantry in aliens?

Meh, Its tough to find a decent idea that hasnt been slightly half-assed pursued. in some way or another. Im damn fascinated to discover what ideas bf2142 has- new or not. (although, my only interst in devices like Mechs is how well they explode when I c4 a leg.)

-straylight

ConscriptVirus
05-01-2006, 02:51 AM
OGM!
You're right!
It's a total ripoff!

You can jump, which is obviously stolen from Mario Brothers.
There's things you can run over to get stronger, right out of Pacman.
You can shoot, which is a rip off from Astoroids.
It's first person, which means it definatly plagorized Wolfinsten 3D.
You move through the the world in real time, which must be a nod to Leasure Suit Larry In the Land of the Lounge Lizzards!!

My point is everything is derivitive of something else.

omg lolol :D :D

Punisher18
05-02-2006, 10:01 PM
Who cares.lol Its going to be a sweet game nuff' said. :P