View Full Version : To jet or not to jet?
$kelet0r
05-01-2006, 09:41 AM
Well here is the big argument - should jets be included in BF2142
We all know that while they were fun to fly and even more fun to rack up points with - they were horribly unbalanced (especially the bombers which could spam death almost with impunity and still can, and to a lesser extent the fighters which required a smaller niche of good pilots to dominate a less armour intense map (Wake anyone?).
So what are the options?
Well if Dice had included a Stinger class ingame, there would have been no problems at all with balance (assuming that they had been coded to actually hit!! :D ) and assuming that Bf2142 will not include them either than the following options arise
No air vehicles - lol
Helicopter/jet hybrid - a subsonic aircraft with STOL/VTOL and multiple directional vectoring
Futuristic Helicopter only - Take the Mi28's weapons on a 2142 platform with broadly similar handling to BF2 choppers
Jets - Bf2 is fine as it is, we want jets!
NiSsE
05-01-2006, 10:33 AM
Maybe they can do soo if the bomber meat a fighter in the air the it have almost no chance of survivali mean that the fighter easy can take it out whit something
$kelet0r
05-01-2006, 12:49 PM
We have to assume they won't or else they will mess it up :(
If from 1.0 BF2 had an AA class there would have been no complaints about Air combat to the extent that we saw
Splinter
05-01-2006, 03:05 PM
I've heard the the AV (anti-vehicle) class has 2 kits.
1 is for Anti-tank use.
2 is for Anti-air use.
So stick both jets and choppers in.
NiSsE
05-01-2006, 03:50 PM
I've heard the the AV (anti-vehicle) class has 2 kits.
1 is for Anti-tank use.
2 is for Anti-air use.
So stick both jets and choppers in.
that would be nice maybe after played a while you can unlock a stinger launcher or something :)
ReaperOfsouls
05-01-2006, 04:16 PM
If they put jets in they should make the stingers have a longer range on picking up the jets. Its not fair that a jet can see some one in a stinger a mile away but the stinger cant lock on unless the jets right infront of it.
IHateYou
05-01-2006, 05:48 PM
Word my brotha. But, if it's infantry with the Stinger capabilities... won't matter as much, cause a plane is a lot less likely to see the soldier before the soldier sees him. I dunno, if theres a way to make it imbalanced, I'm sure they'll find it.
ReaperOfsouls
05-01-2006, 07:58 PM
Word my brotha. But, if it's infantry with the Stinger capabilities... won't matter as much, cause a plane is a lot less likely to see the soldier before the soldier sees him. I dunno, if theres a way to make it imbalanced, I'm sure they'll find it.
I meant when the soldier is in the stinger. When he his the jets bomb target indicatior lightes up before the guy in the stinger can even see the jet.
CannonFodder
05-01-2006, 10:24 PM
I meant when the soldier is in the stinger. When he his the jets bomb target indicatior lightes up before the guy in the stinger can even see the jet.
they are talking about a portable stinger. You know that right?
NiSsE
05-01-2006, 10:50 PM
they are talking about a portable stinger. You know that right?
That's atleast what i ment :p
ReaperOfsouls
05-01-2006, 11:23 PM
they are talking about a portable stinger. You know that right?
I was not refering to that. I was saying if they have jets they should make it so when the jets bombing indicator sees the enemy in a stinger, the stinger should be able to lock on so its fair.
PsYcHo.KiLLa
05-02-2006, 01:26 AM
Agreed with Reaper concerning stationary stingers, yet since the support class will have portable stingers (like in Joint Ops), stationary stingers would become unnecessary.
ReaperOfsouls
05-02-2006, 01:42 AM
Ive herd this question asked before about the support class. Wheres the ammo coming from? My answer is commader with the supply crates but to often there are **** commanders lol.
PsYcHo.KiLLa
05-02-2006, 01:44 AM
Oooo, I can't wait until E3. I'm an hour's drive away! (But I will most likely not be going :(.) Does anyone know where I can watch complete coverage of E3? (Besides G4)
ReaperOfsouls
05-02-2006, 01:49 AM
Oooo, I can't wait until E3. I'm an hour's drive away! (But I will most likely not be going :(.) Does anyone know where I can watch complete coverage of E3? (Besides G4)
No. I wish I knew where to get tickets at. I went to E3.com and only saw stuff about vendors. Where do you go to get tickets.
I tell you man I can't wait till E3 to see whats going on with bf2142.
I know im going to be checking planetbattlefield.com because if theres anything realeased they will be the first ones to have it.
PsYcHo.KiLLa
05-02-2006, 01:50 AM
I really hope they have a PPV coverage (live) or something like that...
ReaperOfsouls
05-02-2006, 01:52 AM
I really hope they have a PPV coverage (live) or something like that...
I'll be at work anyway :cool: got to save up money for the new pc im building.
PsYcHo.KiLLa
05-02-2006, 02:21 AM
I saw the PC you were putting together from our FSB post in the "Support" section. What's your budget?
ReaperOfsouls
05-02-2006, 03:40 AM
Originally was gonan be like 2400 but now its around 1500 heres what im getting
Asus Nvidia Nfroce 4 mother board
AMD Althon 64 3500 CPU
2 gigs of Ultra Dual Core DDR PC3200
XFG Nvidia 7900 GT 256 mb DDR3 520 Mhz Core Clock Speed
Maxtore DiamonMAx SATA II 160 gb hard drive
Aspire X-Navigator Aluminum ATX Mid-Tower Case
Thats all my harware. The Case comes with a power supply. Im getting a moniter as well. All this plus other stuff(Like OS, Speakers, ETC) will cost me around 1500 with shiping.
PsYcHo.KiLLa
05-02-2006, 03:41 AM
1500? Let me look.
By the way, let's take this conversation to the support section...
Sharp
05-04-2006, 01:27 PM
They didn't mention jets today, just 'futuristic aircraft' and
a massive flying warship
Can't wait to see that :-)
ReaperOfsouls
05-04-2006, 05:12 PM
They didn't mention jets today, just 'futuristic aircraft' and
a massive flying warship
Can't wait to see that :-)
They did mention jets in the PC gamer article.
PsYcHo.KiLLa
05-04-2006, 11:28 PM
Oh yea, I really wanna see at least concept art of a massive flying warship. Imagine one that you actually board, and can walk around inside of it.
IHateYou
05-05-2006, 10:59 AM
Sounds kinda Halo-ish
ReaperOfsouls
05-05-2006, 07:27 PM
They didn't mention jets today, just 'futuristic aircraft' and
a massive flying warship
Can't wait to see that :-)
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PsYcHo.KiLLa
05-06-2006, 06:18 AM
Any screenies?
JackReacher
05-06-2006, 04:46 PM
Soon, I guess..E3 ;)
PsYcHo.KiLLa
05-07-2006, 12:23 AM
w00t!
E3 is in THREE days!!!!!!!!!!!
I have G3, so I'll get live coverage.
Steakslim
05-07-2006, 01:41 AM
Jet or not, I don't really care so much as long as it doesn't fly like a can of smashed assholes. There's a lot of interesting possiblities for the aircraft, from the possible futuristic take on a winged aircraft to something unorthedox like...I dunno something like the alien fighter ships from Independence Day.
ReaperOfsouls
05-07-2006, 05:10 AM
Any screenies?
There are now
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3story.html?sid=6149123&pid=932358
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