Base raping

[delemorte]

Ok so i was playin on a server last night and was getting cussed at for base raping. Two points here.

1: when its your team that sends RPG guys to sit on our hangar to blow up our jets then we return the favor dont whine even if it wasnt you or you joined to late to have seen it.


2: If you arent going to take the scud out of your uncap to kill us across the map with it then i have to come into your base to destroy it.

thank you have a good day.

[troybob]

2: If you arent going to take the scud out of your uncap to kill us across the map with it then i have to come into your base to destroy it.



the 3stooges server has this rule. even if arty is firing out from the main - you are not allowed to enter the main to destroy it. It made easting very stagnant

[zuiquan1]

If an arty piece is dominating a map, and is just sitting in a main, you can be damn sure I'll be going into that base to destroy it....

Same with the arty pieces from vanilla....

[delemorte]

If an arty piece is dominating a map, and is just sitting in a main, you can be damn sure I'll be going into that base to destroy it....

Same with the arty pieces from vanilla....



The howitzer is one thing or even the MLRS because of reload. But the scud destroys and entire base and can last a very long time. I love the scud dont get me wrong i would not change it for anything. but hiding it at an uncap and raping me with it aint gonna happen.

[bigpappa]

the 3stooges server has this rule. even if arty is firing out from the main - you are not allowed to enter the main to destroy it. It made easting very stagnant

a Desert Combat server had this rule too, the infamous Seattle T3 server, one player would scud the main all day long, which was the admin, and when you finally got over there to destroy it, u would be kicked for spawn camping. good times.

[delemorte]

a Desert Combat server had this rule too, the infamous Seattle T3 server, one player would scud the main all day long, which was the admin, and when you finally got over there to destroy it, u would be kicked for spawn camping. good times.

If you can put a scud on target in the enemy non cap then you are also base raping so that admin is a idiot in my opinion. Hell i dont care where the scud is. it should always be considered a primary target at any time no matter where it is. Same goes for MLRS or howitzer. Distance weapons like that should negate any base raping rules. Besides i cant help it if i strafe the arty and some how hit you instead......... on my ninth pass ;)

[imported_Master Shake]

a Desert Combat server had this rule too, the infamous Seattle T3 server, one player would scud the main all day long, which was the admin, and when you finally got over there to destroy it, u would be kicked for spawn camping. good times.

Oh, the fond seattle server memories, I remeber doing halo jump into the Iraq/US base often loaded with the C-4 Sticks.....ready to end the rapage.........at least for a few minutes.:D


I am eagerly awaiting the Tomahawks...........another great rapage tool...

[delemorte]

I am eagerly awaiting the Tomahawks...........another great rapage tool...

I forgot about the tomahawks. In fact i miss all of the ships and island maps..

[3_stooges_geo]

the 3stooges server has this rule. even if arty is firing out from the main - you are not allowed to enter the main to destroy it. It made easting very stagnant
you have been misinformed.
these are the 2 messages that are broadcast during the game every 120 seconds(2minutes).
as you can see,you are allowed to go and destroy arty.
NO ATTACKING UN-CAPS WITH ANYTHING,YOU WILL BE KICKED AND OR BANNED.(EXCEPT TO DESTROY ARTY)

YOU WILL BE KICKED AND OR BANNED IF YOU ENTER THE ENEMIES UN-CAP.(EXCEPT TO DESTROY ARTY)

[delemorte]

you have been misinformed.
these are the 2 messages that are broadcast during the game every 120 seconds(2minutes).
as you can see,you are allowed to go and destroy arty.
NO ATTACKING UN-CAPS WITH ANYTHING,YOU WILL BE KICKED AND OR BANNED.(EXCEPT TO DESTROY ARTY)

YOU WILL BE KICKED AND OR BANNED IF YOU ENTER THE ENEMIES UN-CAP.(EXCEPT TO DESTROY ARTY)


here is the problem with that rule. In order to get to the arty you need to penatrate the base and kill any one who may stop you before you can deploy your C4. Therefor you are going to kill some people while you are there. People look at that rule very literaly and will have you kicked for killing them while in route to destroy arty.

On the other end you have to fight your way out which entails killing more guys and stealing a vehicle to get home. And then there is your squad which you need to re arm your c4 or bullets or just provide covering fire or revive so you can complete your mission. I get not wanting people to base camp but there needs to be some leanentcy on that rule.

or you can say its your server and abide by it or play else where. Which is typicly what i do.



Edit: BTW please excuse typos or spelling.

Also. Depriving the enemy of their resources and ability to fight is a legitimate tactic in my book. I have been base raped alot and you know what, its half the fun to find that dude and make him pay for it. I say suck it up and fight your way out of it.

[troybob]

you have been misinformed.


talk to your admins - they are the ones misinformed. people were getting kicked who were entering the main to destroy arty. The admin then confirmed that you were not allowed to enter the main.

Either way - the server never surged to more than 11 players because so many were being kicked without warning. Also - the admin didn't even need proof. If someone accused someone else of base-raping, there was no second opinion - that person was gone.

[3_stooges_geo]

talk to your admins - they are the ones misinformed. people were getting kicked who were entering the main to destroy arty. The admin then confirmed that you were not allowed to enter the main.

Either way - the server never surged to more than 11 players because so many were being kicked without warning. Also - the admin didn't even need proof. If someone accused someone else of base-raping, there was no second opinion - that person was gone.

If thats the case,i guess they need to be advised.

[delemorte]

If thats the case,i guess they need to be advised.

Its too easy to abuse that rule. In a mod where weapons are able to reach all the way across a map and accurately attack a main then that rule should be dropped.

[3_stooges_geo]

Its too easy to abuse that rule. In a mod where weapons are able to reach all the way across a map and accurately attack a main then that rule should be dropped.
thats why i will be removing the arty from that map

[delemorte]

thats why i will be removing the arty from that map

its your server. but that kind of sucks. Scud and MLRS is what makes DCON so fun

[imported_Master Shake]

Honestly for those that remember there used to be allot of base raping in old DC,.....allot,..... The only way to handle it is to counter the raper, that simple, adapt and move on. Dcon as well as DC are more about killing the enemy, causing chaos and winning the map at all costs than anything else.
Wait until the re-do Basrah's Edge.......or some of the other maps,...the rapeage will continue just learn to counter it and the game goes back to normal.

[Ikuu]

I usually go Spec Ops, and sorry, if you think I'm going to stay out of your uncap then you're completely mistaken. I usually get a team of myself and a few friends, and then fly/drive to the back of the base(s) and then begin to C4 every Artillery, SCUD launcher and Helo that spawns before hiding then repeating this every so often.

[delemorte]

Ok so i was playing El Al last night and i tell you what. those damn US had A10s strafing our base before i could even get into a vehicle. We got our asses Raped like a white girl on prom night... and what did i do? Did i whine and moan about how much it suxs to be base raped.... Nope i left and found a new server...

[*FMJ*Power]

DC is all about base raping, sorry guys but it is and always has been. the servers with no base raping rules sit empty. any other server is just a race to the enemy main to spawn kill people. the majority of the players aren't that skilled and they get an inflated sense of accomplishment when they mow people down as they spawn in or blow up the jets on the runway while sitting on the hanger roof.

[Mr_Mondo]

just today my team was getting raped raw i look like the a bee hive above our air field, they were the worst sportsmen I've ever played against. but its not the raping thats the problem its the fact that air craft have the advantage over the folk's on the airfield. I suggest to the devs that each airfield gets two SAMs (thats right two) that way atacking an airfield would actulay take some skill to rape (witch is good right?). plus every body likes two use them and i shure like to doge them (it reminds me of the U-2 sceen from 13 days).
OR if the dves cant do that then they should find some way to tip the scales in favor of the defender.

if you agree just say "I second that"

[troybob]

i think the base rapage is directly related to the over-quick spawn time of aircraft.

a patch is in the works though.

[*FMJ*Power]

i think the base rapage is directly related to the over-quick spawn time of aircraft.

a patch is in the works though.


i think that most servers have altered the spawn time, i know that one server spawns a new vehicle the second you move the old one so you can get an endless number of vehicles in the air, its not that fast normally but i can assure you that fast spawning vehicles aren't the cause of base raping, its the less than respectable point mongering players.

[delemorte]

i think that most servers have altered the spawn time, i know that one server spawns a new vehicle the second you move the old one so you can get an endless number of vehicles in the air, its not that fast normally but i can assure you that fast spawning vehicles aren't the cause of base raping, its the less than respectable point mongering players.


Since there are no stats being kept how is it the point mongers?


I second the notion of giving the airfields more options of defence. I think it would be much better.