Desert Conflict Mod Update

[[MyIS]Spawndemon]

The guys over at the Desert Conflict (http://www.desert-conflict.org/) mod have posted up a new update today to let us know they aren't dead. Here's what they had to say:

Not much of an update for all of you...but one nevertheless. RC4 is still being compiled and the crew is trying to get as much stuff stuck in there while the maps are being lightmapped. We've managed to get the arty huds working for vehicles.. So people will be able to call for artillery if they are sitting inside of vehicles. The team is trudging along double checking alot of things. We just got a new tweak file for the planes from BigBoom.. Seems to be promising, but we'll just have to see how the rest of the guys like it.

Now onto a more serious note of sorts. Since we've made our first release the teams general consensus is that we will be going back to our old style of leadership.We've gotten it this far and the team has been taken over once again by the Dept Heads and I will no longer be serving as the Lead persay. This has been a long time in comming and the team is more than capable of discharging the day to day business of the mod. My time is limited right now due to work and numerous other items like buying a new house and all the fun that comes with that, plus my side project has me busy as well. Read more... (http://www.desert-conflict.org/)

Glad to hear a new release is still on its way. To learn more about DCon, click here (http://www.desert-conflict.org/).

[MathU]

Well it better be soon. They're losing more and more players the longer they wait to fix the graphic choppiness many people get on some maps.

[Alex98uk]

Thanks for the update. This and FH2 are on the top of my BF2 mods list and im glad they are still alive and kicking.

[MadSlob]

Thanks for the update. This and FH2 are on the top of my BF2 mods list and im glad they are still alive and kicking.

DITTO THAT!!!! Just bought similar specs to yours and want to OC on p5b plus mobo.what cpu fan u using m8??;)

[HaVOCK-ElEEt]

From what I have been reading, this release looks like it will kick the crap out of thier first release. :)

The community sucks, not the mods. Go dcon, we are waiting..........
(dont take too much longer please)

[sava700]

Well it better be soon. They're losing more and more players the longer they wait to fix the graphic choppiness many people get on some maps.

agreed, the mod is on life support for the long wait of any change at all. I say release what you have now and patch again later if need be. The community is hanging by a thread but who's fault is that?

[Doorstop[DCON]]

it's never that easy fellas.. Kiff has to make sure that the issues that we are trying to fix are fixed, then we have to make sure that the fixes didnt create another major issue that will generate the same sort of problems that you all experienced before.

[Alex98uk]

Dcon has been damn stable for me so far, more stable than BF2.

[Doorstop[DCON]]

agreed, the mod is on life support for the long wait of any change at all. I say release what you have now and patch again later if need be. The community is hanging by a thread but who's fault is that?


Dont take this as me being gruff.. its not meant to read that way..

its this same type of thought process that you all had from the get go.. Its failed.. You wanted it released we released it.. Then you all had issues with things after it saying almost the same exact things before we released..

Its a vicious circle the community continues to follow.. The cycle has to be broken in some way.

[HaVOCK-ElEEt]

The community is hanging by a thread but who's fault is that?

LOL, what a D1ck weed. :rolleyes:

The "Community" has a free game thanks to dcon and all the other mods. We are the lucky ones. I got an idea, lets play your kick *** mod......... Oh i forgot, your just like me, a simple spectator and end user, not a developer.

This community turned its back o0n many great things already. USI, OPK, POE2, EOD, etc. There are some fans for each, but few and far between. Come to think of it, what ever you do, dont join the black studios, it is a kiss of death so far.

Its the devs fault that we have free content, and its thier fault for not giving up on this crappy engine and support group, and for not telling 9 of 10 people on these forums not to blow there left nut on a daily basis. :nod:

[*FMJ*Power]

agreed, the mod is on life support for the long wait of any change at all. I say release what you have now and patch again later if need be. The community is hanging by a thread but who's fault is that?

but the players will return, it always happens when a mod releases a big update. look at usi, not one player right now but i bet you anything as soon as their new build comes out youll have 2,000 people playing it. you have to remember allot of bf2 players are bandwagon followers, if others are playing it they will too. this stats outage will only help gain more mod players, personally i could care less if they ever get fixed, id rather they didnt.



This community turned its back o0n many great things already. USI, OPK, POE2, EOD, etc. There are some fans for each, but few and far between. Come to think of it, what ever you do, dont join the black studios, it is a kiss of death so far.



no, EA and DICE turned their backs on these mods and the community support they promised. if anyone remembers there was a spotlight popup window for opk and it quadrupled the player base in the first hour it showed up and we haven't seen one since. they would rather whore out some "new" 2 year old map and 2142 than support the mod community. mod players and mod developers for the battlefield series of games are a dying breed and ea is doing a great job of digging the graves while they pick the pockets of the corpses.

i dont blame the players as much as i blame EA for breaking countless promises to the mod developers, they make it almost impossible to put out good work and they all forget they started in mods too, most of them anyways.

[opc_tim]

I'll get the patch, i recently downloaded the mod, & like it in alot of ways , some ways i dont, maybe the patch will do the trick

would like to see more buggies

question, why is the choppers so hard to control? do u have setting just for the mod somewhere, i have my sensitivity set all the way down in my option controls, works great everwhere but this mod seems hard to fly.

audios:salute:

[Doorstop[DCON]]

ever play DC? Its choppers required a mastery..

[opc_tim]

ever play DC? Its choppers required a mastery..

yeah, thats what i mean, gotta be good with joystick, maybe i will try the keyboard on that mod

[Doorstop[DCON]]

it takes some getting used to.. I fly with a joystick with no problems.. course i've been flying them forever..

[sava700]

LOL, what a D1ck weed. :rolleyes:

The "Community" has a free game thanks to dcon and all the other mods. We are the lucky ones. I got an idea, lets play your kick *** mod......... Oh i forgot, your just like me, a simple spectator and end user, not a developer.

This community turned its back o0n many great things already. USI, OPK, POE2, EOD, etc. There are some fans for each, but few and far between. Come to think of it, what ever you do, dont join the black studios, it is a kiss of death so far.

Its the devs fault that we have free content, and its thier fault for not giving up on this crappy engine and support group, and for not telling 9 of 10 people on these forums not to blow there left nut on a daily basis. :nod:

I find your comment insulting, and i'm curious as to why its still up I guess nobody Admins this forum.

But as a follow up: I'm not the only one that feels this way... how about going over to the CAL forums one of the more well known Comp Community and you will see the same thing over and over again within the last 2 months about needing to fix only a few things and then release a patch.

I may be a player but without us the mod, the game is worthless..as the same for a business... without your customers its a waste of time.

but the players will return, it always happens when a mod releases a big update. look at usi, not one player right now but i bet you anything as soon as their new build comes out youll have 2,000 people playing it. you have to remember allot of bf2 players are bandwagon followers, if others are playing it they will too. this stats outage will only help gain more mod players, personlay i could care less if they ever get fixed, id rather they didnt.







I'm hoping they do return.. I guess we shall see when and IF the patch is released.

Dont take this as me being gruff.. its not meant to read that way..

its this same type of thought process that you all had from the get go.. Its failed.. You wanted it released we released it.. Then you all had issues with things after it saying almost the same exact things before we released..

Its a vicious circle the community continues to follow.. The cycle has to be broken in some way.

"I" didn't want it released, "I" didn't ask for it to be released, I'm guessing your talking about a majority whom prob don't play this MOD anymore. The point is, the Original DC was patched several times and was a huge success and that came from good support. You either support it or you don't and that support comes from both ends.

But again, I'm not speaking for myself cause at this point its irrelevant what I think, you only need to read between the lines to view whats really going on.

[|D|-Jaws]

LOL, what a D1ck weed. :rolleyes:

The "Community" has a free game thanks to dcon and all the other mods. We are the lucky ones. I got an idea, lets play your kick *** mod......... Oh i forgot, your just like me, a simple spectator and end user, not a developer.

This community turned its back o0n many great things already. USI, OPK, POE2, EOD, etc. There are some fans for each, but few and far between. Come to think of it, what ever you do, dont join the black studios, it is a kiss of death so far.

Its the devs fault that we have free content, and its thier fault for not giving up on this crappy engine and support group, and for not telling 9 of 10 people on these forums not to blow there left nut on a daily basis. :nod:

Last time I checked, every single server running DCON was paid for, with money, by people willing to do so. If it wasn't for d i c k weeds like sava who foot the bill to run mods on his server, there wouldn't be any mods. And there wouldn't be any free content for you to enjoy in a multiplayer arena because it takes money to run a multiplayer server.

I, like sava, would LOVE to see this mod flourish. There has been a real disconnect over what needed to be fixed and what would have been nice to fix. The only thing that broke the game upon release was the lag issue. Other than that, there was nothing else that broke the game. Sure people cried about the damn squad system...but that didn't render the game unplayable.

[BEEX]

the lag issue was the main 1 to fix,its obvious that it was a map related issue and those kinda map lag issues are always a massive pain to resolve.
there was some slight weapon imbalances but besides that DCON has few very noticeable bugs.
its best for mods to fix as many bugs as possible for 1 patch,mainly cuz you need to get alot of peeps together for testing and final testing usually runs for a few weeks to make sure the bugs are gone...then you have to do that all over again to fix a few small bugs, isnt worth the effort,may aswell do it first time.
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the more complicated computer games get,the longer it takes to create and manage a mod.

[GrossKopf]

Come to think of it, what ever you do, dont join the black studios, it is a kiss of death so far.

Yeah, it's a good thing that one of the most popular mods, Project Reality, isn't part of BSS or else.. oh wait, they ARE part of BSS.. guess that ruins your theory.

The point is, the Original DC was patched several times and was a huge success and that came from good support.

Umm.. don't get confused. Dcon isn't DC. They just rode the coat tails by recreating some of DC's maps in BF2.

[sava700]

Umm.. don't get confused. Dcon isn't DC. They just rode the coat tails by recreating some of DC's maps in BF2.

yes I know this.. different engines but it was just a example.

[Rhino]

Come to think of it, what ever you do, dont join the black studios, it is a kiss of death so far.

and you are basing that on what information? the fact is that alot of the strongest mods, including the strongest BF2 mod at the moment (PR) is in BSS, and most of the other mods in BSS are also comming out with new releaces soon, and the trend is with every new release, every mod gains new fans and brings back the old fans who may be playing vBF2, or another game.

[Blackice]

and you are basing that on what information? the fact is that alot of the strongest mods, including the strongest BF2 mod at the moment (PR) is in BSS, and most of the other mods in BSS are also comming out with new releaces soon, and the trend is with every new release, every mod gains new fans and brings back the old fans who may be playing vBF2, or another game.

Thats right Rhino.....BSS rules. Basically we keep modding alive for majority of the teams that can't survive by themselves

[TeLe-LoE-]

Come to think of it, what ever you do, dont join the black studios, it is a kiss of death so far.

Come on dude, stop your bullsh*ting and get a grip on things.

[zuiquan1]

needing to fix only a few things and then release a patch.


and if those few things AREN'T FIXED the patch wont be released.....hence...no patch....

Its really that simple...what is needed to be fixed...isn't....whats the point of releasing a patch that doesn't fix anything?




Umm.. don't get confused. Dcon isn't DC. They just rode the coat tails by recreating some of DC's maps in BF2.

No one said they were....

I see no one riding on anyones coat tails....the devs were big fans of DC, and wanted to create a similar experience on the BF2 engine, to create a gameplay style that everyone loved and was extremely lacking in BF2....

DO you really have such a problem with that?

[=tGA=Harry]

I think you will enjoy the next update. :)

Some guys have been trying to solve the lag issue, parallell to this, some other guys have been working on brand new stuff. All this have been finished at about the same time. So the patch have been turned into a large update instead with at least 4+ new, original maps, some new vehicles and skins. ;)

Look for some new content update previews in the near future, on our DCon page and here at TBF2.

[MarkHawk]

and you are basing that on what information? the fact is that alot of the strongest mods, including the strongest BF2 mod at the moment (PR) is in BSS, and most of the other mods in BSS are also comming out with new releaces soon, and the trend is with every new release, every mod gains new fans and brings back the old fans who may be playing vBF2, or another game.

I do think the quote is taken a little out of context, but I wanted to respond.
From someone working inside the BSS, I was a little nervous when I first heard that mods like PR, OPK, and USI (few examples) were going to be sharing content. I thought, "how lame! I don't want to see the same Plane in 3 mods ..." But when I got back on the USI team (took 6 months for school awhile back) I was kind of dumb founded. There were a lot of good ideas that weren't staying ideas. A lot of barricades that we couldn't get EA or Dice to help us with that we had solved and teams were moving on to new ones. Sharing content didn't mean models only, it meant combining teams. Getting things rigged quicker, working out new HUD displays, working on getting around glitches A-Z26

That's cool and all but what I found really cool (and I can't really say what it is) how these new ideas were being uniquely used in every mod. It wasn't a carbon copy, it was an ability you had and the options to use it to support your team's mod.

It's also nice to have a community of people that you thought you might get from EA or Dice. We did this on our budget (time and well more free time) We made bugs vanish, new ability's come to life, and try to link mods and spotlight them ourself. (this paragraph goes out to sites like this and mods like Desert Combat along with BSS) The community became it's own support but our hands don't reach as far as EA's could have with those who are outside this community.

The game is two years old but the dedication from mods teams makes your 40 dollar game a bargain. Single player support from mods is nice to. If you can't find a server the AI in single player is fun to play with the mod for a bit. It's no Multiplayer experience but it's there and not having it... well sucks.

:salute: keep modding...

[General Tso]

I really look forward to DCON news releases, if only for the entertaining flame wars. It only takes a few replies for the ingrates to start bashing the mod. This has remained consistent from the early days of the mod.

Honestly, nice work guys...looking forward to the new release.

[Bigboom]

Honestly guys it's as simple as this. If all the major issues had been located, fixed and tested, then you'd already be playing a patched version of DCon. Some of you are making out like we're holding back the patch for the sake of extra content. That is simply not the case.

Yes there probably will be extra content in the patch but what would you rather have us do? Give you some new tweaks, maps, skins etc. and get the lag fixed or have half the development team sat twiddling their thumbs while the others try to get just the lag issue all patched up? Either option takes the same amount of time.

Like Harry said, you'll enjoy the next update. And sava700 it is a case of when rather than if. That when should be soon. Like the community was before the first release, you'll just have to be patient.

[sava700]

Look for some new content update previews in the near future, on our DCon page and here at TBF2.

would you mind putting a date on "near future" please?

[Doorstop[DCON]]

we've never given dates nor do we intend to start.

[sava700]

we've never given dates nor do we intend to start.


thats like throwing a dog a bone and then shooting him when he gets near it. :rolleyes:

[CATIA]

I really look forward to DCON news releases, if only for the entertaining flame wars. It only takes a few replies for the ingrates to start bashing the mod. This has remained consistent from the early days of the mod.

Honestly, nice work guys...looking forward to the new release.
We’re quite used to the bashing/temper tantrums from the likes of GrössKopf and his buddies. Classless behavior, entertaining nonetheless.

Sava, much respect to you and the rest of |D| members, top notch ppl. We are very happy to have fans like you guys, and we hope we see you on our next releaseS. As I said before on my other post, plz give us a little more time as we’re ready to test the latest RC and as soon as the Devs are comfortable with it, we will release it.

P.S I predict this thread will go over 5 pages.

[zuiquan1]

Can we just drop the entire subject.....

[[MyIS]Spawndemon]

We’re quite used to the bashing/temper tantrums from the likes of GrössKopf and his buddies. Classless behavior, entertaining nonetheless.

Sava, much respect to you and the rest of |D| members, top notch ppl. We are very happy to have fans like you guys, and we hope we see you on our next releaseS. As I said before on my other post, plz give us a little more time as we’re ready to test the latest RC and as soon as the Devs are comfortable with it, we will release it.

P.S I predict this thread will go over 5 pages.

It depends how many replies I will have to delete that are non-constructive and just looking to stir the pot. ;)

I for one am happy to see a new update from you guys even if it doesn't show any new material off at this point. It's better to know a mod team is still hard at work behind the scenes than for the community to assume the mod has just died off. Any update is better than no update and it gets old for the mod teams and myself/other staff for people to complain about the same things every single update that we post here. Yes mods take a long time to make and yes you want to know the release date because you're tired of waiting etc etc. It will be put out when it's ready to be released!

/rant

PS: USI fanboys looking to cause trouble, coughGrössKopfcough, please don't post if its only going to add fuel to the fire. How about we all just get along! :nod:

[Doorstop[DCON]]

Honestly I'd just appreciate it if people would just leave out the names of other mods in our posts period.. It does nothing but instigate ****. I'm tired of having to come into our news post and see x y and z going at it.. Its our mod.. our thread.. Leave the Mod politics the hell out of it. This has nothing to do with BSS at all Eleet. I'd appreciate it if you'd stop. I dont care what BSS is doing or not doing. Has no bearing on us what so ever. Fanboys and Devs need to grow up seriously.. Tired of seeing the ravenous routing of one another over what? A news post? Come on people.. get a grip.

thats like throwing a dog a bone and then shooting him when he gets near it. :rolleyes:

call it what ya want and roll your eyes all you want. Facts are Facts.. we've never ever given a date for anything.

[sava700]

I enjoy the mod..and i'll be waiting on the next patch to throw a server up.. but considering our server doesn't show up "ranked" i'm not really looking for it to ever get populated very good.

[Doorstop[DCON]]

yea thats the clincher for some servers.. I suppose it would be a decent idea for us to advertise servers on our site a bit.. Or promote you guys better in some way to get your numbers up after next release.

[=CDU=Junkoe]

Maybe you could do like a weekly thing for a lil while after the next release. Kind of like the mod spotlight thing EA was supposed to continue. Have someone like Catia check out some of the lesser known servers and advertise them on the site. I can't speak for anyone else but I know a few of us admins would love to have the extra advertising from the devs.

You already give us top notch support and help on all fronts of admining. So this would just be icing on the cake.

Anyways looking forward to your next release. I can't wait for more goodies to play with and mod up.

[Doorstop[DCON]]

sounds like a good idea Junkoe..

[Alex98uk]

...The point is, the Original DC was patched several times and was a huge success and that came from good support. You either support it or you don't and that support comes from both ends.

You are doing a brilliant job guys, so don't rush the new patch. Take your time. The 0.1a is already very good and makes BF2 a lot more enjoyable (and im not particularly into my mods).

...the more complicated computer games get,the longer it takes to create and manage a mod.

And as for you... im looking forward to your next patch. Australian Forces is the LAN game of choice. Good work!

[sava700]

sounds like a good idea Junkoe..

yeah that is a good idea.

[CATIA]

Maybe you could do like a weekly thing for a lil while after the next release. Kind of like the mod spotlight thing EA was supposed to continue. Have someone like Catia check out some of the lesser known servers and advertise them on the site. I can't speak for anyone else but I know a few of us admins would love to have the extra advertising from the devs.

You already give us top notch support and help on all fronts of admining. So this would just be icing on the cake.

Anyways looking forward to your next release. I can't wait for more goodies to play with and mod up.
I'm up for it :salute:

[M4D*Hoofer]

hey fellas, been a while since I've posted, but I saw someone talking about the "ranked" server. one of our (dcon) devs, masterx, has been working on, and has now completed a working version of ranked dcon servers. I've seen the actions and it works very well recording stats, ranks, etc... from what I understand so far, masterx will be hosting the ranked servers stats on one of his servers and to sign up for being a ranked server host, all you need to do is be added to his list. From what I understand so far, this is not a finality of any kind yet, but it is working and masterx did an excellent job. I personally look forward to being able to check and see my dcon scores, stats and rank as I play, would be neat.

I'll see if I can get master x to write up a news release on how it will all work. Not sure yet if it will be ready for the patch release or not. We'll have to let you guys know in the near future. Anyway, thought I'd chime in on that point.

[GrossKopf]

We’re quite used to the bashing/temper tantrums from the likes of GrössKopf and his buddies. Classless behavior, entertaining nonetheless.

How are those other guys MY buddies, like I'm the ring leader... then again, you guys get your panties in a bind whenever someone makes the slightest negative comment, like we came into your house and pissed on your couch. Stop being so sensative before some guy comes up and asks you for a date.

BTW - I expect you to do extensive searching in forums looking for posts that you can interpret as me as previously bashing you, your grandmother and your Steve Austin action figure collection, so please quote away.

Spawndemon;1488164']It depends how many replies I will have to delete that are non-constructive and just looking to stir the pot. ;)

PS: USI fanboys looking to cause trouble, coughBiteMecough, please don't post if its only going to add fuel to the fire. How about we all just get along! :nod:

If you're gonna delete/edit posts, feel free to edit the one you quoted, as well as your own, removing my name. I don't use anyone's specific names in my posts.

[Mitch]

ever play DC? Its choppers required a mastery..


Yea did quite a bit of chopper piloting in DC and your right it took a certain level of skill to fly them effectively.:cool: <O:p</O:p

hey fellas, been a while since I've posted, but I saw someone talking about the "ranked" server. one of our (dcon) devs, masterx, has been working on, and has now completed a working version of ranked dcon servers. I've seen the actions and it works very well recording stats, ranks, etc... from what I understand so far, masterx will be hosting the ranked servers stats on one of his servers and to sign up for being a ranked server host, all you need to do is be added to his list. From what I understand so far, this is not a finality of any kind yet, but it is working and masterx did an excellent job. I personally look forward to being able to check and see my dcon scores, stats and rank as I play, would be neat.

I'll see if I can get master x to write up a news release on how it will all work. Not sure yet if it will be ready for the patch release or not. We'll have to let you guys know in the near future. Anyway, thought I'd chime in on that point.

I have been testing this with him and it's a really nice setup. Even know I don't play for stats or ranks I am sure this will help attract and retain the interest of players that do.:cool: <O:p</O:p

[sava700]

it didn't seem so bad at first..but when I get told I have to allow basic admin rights for this guy or whoever to monitor the server, that became a blow off to me. Unless your helping to fund the server or your part of my clan then no go on that. I'm sure its easy enough to monitor stat padders on the server its streaming to.

Here is the response I got from a simple let me try it on my server request:

its not that simple, first off read the below


Requirements
root python permissions(<bf2-server>/python/bf2/stats/)
dns redirect by server admin, or permissions to use a custom executable
finally, if bf2cc is installed, a basic admin permission for me to your server to have server deal with padders automatically!


if its discovered that your server is used by others for padding stats, there banned, if you use it for that, i disconnect your feed!


dont be turned off, but i hate noobs and other stupid people who would love to use this to cheat up there stats! it aint happnning here!!!!!


if you cant meet the 3 requirements at top then sorry but its not possible to rank your server!



so if a person doesn't allow one of these things then you can't have your server "DCON Ranked" thus you lose another advantage (not as much as the regular EA Ranked Symbol) to the server that others seem to have.
Ohh well so much for community support. :rolleyes:

[=tGA=Harry]

Everyone, I honestly think this USI vs DCon pie throwing contest should end now!!!
We almost have the same Goal and Agenda.

For the sake of making something really great for the community, my personal thought, is that we should have joined forces loooooong ago. Because unfortunately, the small mod-community in BF2 is not big enough for 2 such similar mods. But remember, I am not speakin on behalf of DCon now, this is just my personal opinion.

[Bigboom]

We almost have the same Goal and Agenda.

Last time I checked, the goal of USI was not to bring back the spirit and gameplay of DC ;) . Unless USI has changed goals, then the mod's are taking a completely different direction are they not? Which is why I've never understood the whole DCon vs. USI thing anyway...

[Doorstop[DCON]]

all of ya stop your whining.. LOL I'll look into that for ya Sava.. I dont agree with that myself..

[Mitch]

Oh for the love of god just get over it and move on. You’re never going to be happy unless you’re complaining about something and quite honestly it's getting real old.<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

I am so damn sick and tired of listing to the same people complain about the same crap every day. This is such BS most of you guys complaining here are not interested in supporting the mod unless you can host a server where you can control the environment and the players so that it suits you and that is just lame as hell grow up!!!!<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

I swear talking to you guys is like talking to a rock, it’s all me, me , me my way is right and if I can’t get my way lets complain some more because that is so much more productive than working together to support the mod for all of us.
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If this pisses someone off then too bad because I am not going to make any apologies for what I am saying so if you don’t like it tough. I bust my *** every day trying to develop community interest and support for the mod because I am seriously committed to seeing it do well for all players. <O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

I have tried to approach many of you about working together to support this mod for the community as a whole and based on the replies I received back, I am quite confident in saying that most of you have no interest in seeing the mod do well unless you can have the control necessary to satisfy your own selfish ego.
<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p
I have to ask if this is not an ego or control issue with you guys that are complaining all the time on the forums then what the hell is the problem. Why is it so difficult for us to work together to support the mod for all? I have approached many of you asking if you would be interested in working with me to support the mod and basically you spit in my face because the truth of the matter is that you don’t care about supporting the mod unless you can satisfy your own ego and control the players like sheep so that it suits your interest.
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Be honest, this is not about supporting the mod for the good of the community in general. It’s all about bragging rights as to who has the best server with the most traffic right?...Now be honest. Quite frankly I don’t care whose DCON server I play on provided some *** hat admin is not telling me how I have to play the game or there are not a bunch of self indulging rules set forth by a bunch of ego maniac clan members trying to control the gaming environment so that it suits them. If that is the type of server you want then do the rest of us who support the mod for the community in general a big favor and just setup a private server for you and your clan mates and stop complaining because you can’t sheep oh I am sorry I mean players on your sever to control.
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Let’s face it; most of you are never going to be happy unless you can find a way to control this to suit your own desires. I would gladly stop hosting servers if I felt that there would be good ones provided for me to play on with out some *** hat admin or clan member telling me it’s my house my rules and quite honestly I don’t have the confidence in most of you guys, because based on your replies on the forums I simply don’t think that you mature enough to do that so continue on I will.<O:p</O:p
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Look I am sure some of your will be blasting you cheep shots at me after reading this post however as I mentioned before I don’t care blast away because I stand by my comments. While I appreciate and enjoy the other mods, DCON is the only BF2 I play on a regular basis period and that is why I am so passionate in seeing it do well for the community and so sick and tired of listing to people ***** and complain because they can’t satisfy their own ego when it comes to hosting servers for it.
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My advice is stop bitching and complaining because you can’t get your way. Either become part of the solution by supporting the mod and not your own self interest or go find another game or mod to ruin before you screw this one up so bad that no one wants to play it anymore. I am so sick and tired of you whiney *** people complaining because you cant control the world and have it your way.
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Ok I am done for now so have at it, I am sure that most of you will prove me right just by your replies let’s see who position can stand the light of day.


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it didn't seem so bad at first..but when I get told I have to allow basic admin rights for this guy or whoever to monitor the server, that became a blow off to me. Unless your helping to fund the server or your part of my clan then no go on that. I'm sure its easy enough to monitor stat padders on the server its streaming to.

Here is the response I got from a simple let me try it on my server request:




so if a person doesn't allow one of these things then you can't have your server "DCON Ranked" thus you lose another advantage (not as much as the regular EA Ranked Symbol) to the server that others seem to have.
Ohh well so much for community support. :rolleyes:


Oh for the love of god just get over it and move on. You’re never going to be happy unless you’re complaining about something and quite honestly it's getting real old.<O:p</O:p
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I am so damn sick and tired of listing to the same people complain about the same crap every day. This is such BS most of you guys complaining here are not interested in supporting the mod unless you can host a server where you can control the environment and the players so that it suits you and that is just lame as hell grow up!!!!<O:p</O:p
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I swear talking to you guys is like talking to a rock, it’s all me, me , me my way is right and if I can’t get my way lets complain some more because that is so much more productive than working together to support the mod for all of us.
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If this pisses someone off then too bad because I am not going to make any apologies for what I am saying so if you don’t like it tough. I bust my *** every day trying to develop community interest and support for the mod because I am seriously committed to seeing it do well for all players. <O:p</O:p
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I have tried to approach many of you about working together to support this mod for the community as a whole and based on the replies I received back, I am quite confident in saying that most of you have no interest in seeing the mod do well unless you can have the control necessary to satisfy your own selfish ego.
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I have to ask if this is not an ego or control issue with you guys that are complaining all the time on the forums then what the hell is the problem. Why is it so difficult for us to work together to support the mod for all? I have approached many of you asking if you would be interested in working with me to support the mod and basically you spit in my face because the truth of the matter is that you don’t care about supporting the mod unless you can satisfy your own ego and control the players like sheep so that it suits your interest.
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Be honest, this is not about supporting the mod for the good of the community in general. It’s all about bragging rights as to who has the best server with the most traffic right?...Now be honest. Quite frankly I don’t care whose DCON server I play on provided some *** hat admin is not telling me how I have to play the game or there are not a bunch of self indulging rules set forth by a bunch of ego maniac clan members trying to control the gaming environment so that it suits them. If that is the type of server you want then do the rest of us who support the mod for the community in general a big favor and just setup a private server for you and your clan mates and stop complaining because you can’t get sheep oh I am sorry I mean players on your sever to control.
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Let’s face it; most of you are never going to be happy unless you can find a way to control this to suit your own desires. I would gladly stop hosting servers if I felt that there would be good ones provided for me to play on with out some *** hat admin or clan member telling me it’s my house my rules and quite honestly I don’t have the confidence in most of you guys, because based on your replies on the forums I simply don’t think that you mature enough to do that so continue on I will.<O:p</O:p
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Look I am sure some of you will be blasting you cheep shots at me after reading this post however as I mentioned before I don’t care blast away because I stand by my comments. While I appreciate and enjoy the other mods, DCON is the only BF2 I play on a regular basis period and that is why I am so passionate in seeing it do well for the community and so sick and tired of listing to people ***** and complain because they can’t satisfy their own ego when it comes to hosting servers for it.
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My advice is stop bitching and complaining because you can’t get your way. Either become part of the solution by supporting the mod and not your own self interest or go find another game or mod to ruin before you screw this one up so bad that no one wants to play it anymore. I am so sick and tired of you whiney *** people complaining because you cant control the world and have it your way.
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Ok I am done for now so have at it, I am sure that most of you will prove me right just by your replies let’s see who position can stand the light of day.


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[zuiquan1]

*cough*Drop the subject*cough*




SO!

Hows everyone today?


I for one am doing splendid (except I have to spend the next 2 days at MEPS :cry:)

[Doorstop[DCON]]

lol my head hurts....

[Mitch]

lol my head hurts....


lol... You need some Tylenol.:D

[DasRoach]

I have to admit I love these threads... comedy gold :)

how about everyone (on BOTH sides) take a chill pill and dont let it bother you?
we do this for fun dont we?

normally I wouldn't bother posting in these threads but I just wanted to point something out re: servers....

now I dont know what sort of setup/deal the other server ops have, but a friend of mine own a server here in NZ ... he paid a little over $3000 for the server and pays about $120 a month to have it hosted at an ISP (all in NZ dollars)

so that leads me to my question ... if someone has put in a similar amount of cash into thier server, then why shouldn't they be able to dictate terms of use?

@ Catia - now I realise that you will probably take this the wrong way, but have you taken the time to read your replies and realised how inflammatory they tend to be? If you wish to do "public relations" then you maybe should consider learning how to relate to the public.

I think everyone needs to take a breath and step back a little rather than fueling the fire and turning this thread into another bunfight as most of the previous threads have tended to be...

and BTW, the opinions stated in this post are my own and nothing to do with the mod i work for.

[Doorstop[DCON]]

well were near 5 pages of posts.. LOL yea.. pass the tylenol dude.. I honestly dont care how each server is ran by the admins.. If I like the server I play on it.. if I dont like the rules I dont play on it.. Either way people will play where they want.. I dont think server admins should be told what they can and cant do with their boxes.. they pay for them. Most of all this is exactly why stats are evil and why stats are the devil.

[Lobo[FH]]

My two cents of veteran BF moder, take it or leave it :evil:

Back in the begining of Time there were two mods about the Somalia ordeal, CIS and BHD, they were all day and night long flaming each others. It was a hell of an entertainment for everybody, haha, but this was what it happened:

CIS released one or two alphas, no sucess
BHD didn't release
3 years later, suffering both mods a painful lack of devs they merged together, the logic move
BHD-CIS released first version, no sucess at all, it was too late
Dead mod, R.I.P.

They lost strenght in useless fights, didn't make the logical move, to merge two mods with the same theme, join force and brains, kick a first solid release early and build fast a good player base.

[Doorstop[DCON]]

yea I'm waiting for Insurgency myself.. Almost the end of june.. Hope the boys drop it this weekend.

[[MyIS]Dan]

All this stops here. End all the flaming, all the stupid comments about what ever mod. If you don't like a mod, great news, don't start stupid little flame wars.

Next person to do so will have their rights removed to post in the mod news section of the forum.