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CATIA
06-25-2007, 11:31 PM
OK gonna cover two topics in 1 post here so off the start i will list those topics to block out any confusion!

1. Servers Showing Ranked ICON and Having Ranked in there names when there not!

2. Getting your DCON Server Ranked for REAL via the DCONSTATS Backend! (http://fpsfix.com/dconstats/)

Desert Conflict now has a fully functional stats Backend Server!
Rather than display the ranked icon when your server isn't, you
can link your server to the new backend and actually have a
RANKED DCON Server!

Currently the only servers that actually record rank info is 2-3:
MasterX DCON Rank Testing - 207.36.180.151:65000 - UP off and on when im testing!
JW server(s) based in australia admin: JW-Kinsman

ALL OTHER SERVERS ARE NOT RANKED, PERIOD!
But i intend to change that!

FPSFIX.COM (http://www.fpsfix.com) - The place to check your stats and submit your server for the system!

My Server is UP and will be as much as possible to test any bugs!!!!!

Source (http://www.desert-conflict.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7341)

If you have any questions, plz click on the "source" link and ask MasterX.

sava700
06-26-2007, 03:06 PM
interesting...

question: Will this show up the server with a ranked icon now or no? I'm going to guess no.

Edit: nevermind..I asked this over on the source page :)

*FMJ*Power
06-26-2007, 05:08 PM
definitely interesting but if that little vanilla rank symbol wont show i think it will be hard to get anyone to use it.

one other question, is this server specific or dcon specific? will it track a persons stats only on one specific server using the rank system like the alternate bf ranking system or will it track for all servers using the rank system meaning can you play on any server using this rank system and accumulate stats?

EyeofG
06-26-2007, 07:06 PM
I don't know, I have seen a few people rank up on the NBK DCON server before

*FMJ*Power
06-26-2007, 07:14 PM
I don't know, I have seen a few people rank up on the NBK DCON server before

that not real rank, they are the other falsely ranked us server, they aren't using the rank system catia is referring to.

the nbk server is just showing vanilla rank ingame, you can also rank up your vanilla points if you are close enough before the round starts. same with medals and badges but dont be fooled, your not getting anything, its just because they altered the server files to trick the client into thinking thats a regular vanilla server so they can show as a ranked server.

from what i understand this new rank system will not make a server show up in the browser when you have the ranked server box checked since thats against the tos for the game and i doubt they would include that in the new rank system, ea would bust a nut.

EyeofG
06-26-2007, 07:19 PM
that not real rank, they are the other falsely ranked us server, they aren't using the rank system catia is referring to.

the nbk server is just showing vanilla rank ingame, you can also rank up your vanilla points if you are close enough before the round starts. same with medals and badges but dont be fooled, your not getting anything, its just because they altered the server files to trick the client into thinking thats a regular vanilla server so they can show as a ranked server.

from what i understand this new rank system will not make a server show up in the browser when you have the ranked server box checked since thats against the tos for the game and i doubt they would include that in the new rank system, ea would bust a nut.

PoE2 has it's own ranking system, why not DCON?
Maybe put some medals and badges in there, just for fun.

*FMJ*Power
06-26-2007, 07:22 PM
yea, the stat system for poe2 made by the devs is very nice but i dont think too many servers even use it. as i understand it it only tracks for each specific server.

just keep in mind though, if you leave the rank box checked in the server browser and you see a server it is not really really ranked. the real mod rank systems do not show when you leave the rank box checked, at least the ones ive noticed, i could be wrong.

i would think this dcon stats system would include ranks and badges but i wouldn't hazard a guess, im sure catia can shed some light on if there will be and give us some more details.

masterx
06-26-2007, 10:49 PM
this ranking system will be dcon based, not just 1 server, many!!!! im working on a package to do the setup for Server admins automatically, at least for the most part!

Ranked icon, for now no, but working on that little detail!

system is capable of doing, ranks, unlocks, medals, badges, etc yada yada, as far as what WILL be used for now its all on but we will see as time progresses.

zuiquan1
06-27-2007, 12:13 AM
PoE2 has it's own ranking system, why not DCON?
Maybe put some medals and badges in there, just for fun.

Long discussions in the forums about this....this mod doesnt need those types of ranks....

EyeofG
06-27-2007, 02:29 AM
Long discussions in the forums about this....this mod doesnt need those types of ranks....

They don't need ot be all serioue and stuff. You can just have like joking ranks or ranks that rank up really fast. lol

sava700
06-27-2007, 02:33 AM
They don't need ot be all serioue and stuff. You can just have like joking ranks or ranks that rank up really fast. lol

it seems they are DEAD serious about this.. my email response about applying this to my server said I must give admin rights so they could monitor it or I couldn't have it streaming the DCON stats.

no reply back so far...but I'm not giving admin rights to anyone to my server cept for a few teammates in my own clan. The owner of the stat server should be able to monitor whats going on to ensure stats are not being padded and so forth....no need to have a all seeing eye over a personal server which is using personal resources and funds to support this mod.

Mitch
06-28-2007, 05:38 PM
I don't know, I have seen a few people rank up on the NBK DCON server before


Ranks are lost as soon as the round ends.

Long discussions in the forums about this....this mod doesnt need those types of ranks....

I agree however not all of us survived the EA brain washing so adding this as option for DCON fans that are still stuck on stats is a good idea in my opinion if it helps promote player interest in supporting the mod

I have tested this with MasterX a few times and I will be adding it to our servers as soon as it's available. As I mentioned previously, I think it's a step in the right direction as it will help DCON attract players that are hung up on seeing stats when they play.

sava700
06-28-2007, 11:18 PM
As I posted in the other thread before it got closed:

it didn't seem so bad at first..but when I get told I have to allow basic admin rights for this guy or whoever to monitor the server, that became a blow off to me. Unless your helping to fund the server or your part of my clan then no go on that. I'm sure its easy enough to monitor stat padders on the server its streaming to.

Here is the response I got from a simple let me try it on my server request:

its not that simple, first off read the below


Requirements
root python permissions(/python/bf2/stats/)
dns redirect by server admin, or permissions to use a custom executable
finally, if bf2cc is installed, a basic admin permission for me to your server to have server deal with padders automatically!


if its discovered that your server is used by others for padding stats, there banned, if you use it for that, i disconnect your feed!


dont be turned off, but i hate noobs and other stupid people who would love to use this to cheat up there stats! it aint happnning here!!!!!


if you cant meet the 3 requirements at top then sorry but its not possible to rank your server!

so if a person doesn't allow one of these things then you can't have your server "DCON Ranked" thus you lose another advantage (not as much as the regular EA Ranked Symbol) to the server that others seem to have.
Ohh well so much for community support.:rolleyes:


And as the other thread was responded to saying it would get looked into..thats good cause I wouldn't mind helping to support this MOD in a teamworked bases with other servers like this but i'm not giving admin rights to just anyone...plus the streaming will be watched closely along with any files that must be used on my box.

masterx
06-29-2007, 12:02 AM
how nice sava, im trying to help dcon get popular, and also make sure the stats dont become padded by idiots who have learned to use pcs, and you want to rip on me for this, say so much for community support, well that kinda tells me you have either something to be afraid of, or like to rip on anyone who goes against what you say, either way i dont care.

its like a witch hunt without any witches, but there hellbent on finding one anyway, no thanks

i have worked my *** off on dcon and spent money and time on the community that maybe should have been used better elsewhere if this is the thanks i get for the 49.99 a month i payed for the 2 graebtech dcon mirrors when dcon_ctf, and 0.1a was released, both of which maxxed there bandwidth by the second day! and what of the 80 bucks for the ded i have the stats system on! yeah i guess i could be more supportive than i have been, my bad!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

sava700
06-29-2007, 12:10 AM
how nice sava, im trying to help dcon get popular, and also make sure the stats dont become padded by idiots who have learned to use pcs, and you want to rip on me for this, say so much for community support, well that kinda tells me you have either something to be afraid of, or like to rip on anyone who goes against what you say, either way i dont care.

its like a witch hunt without any witches, but there hellbent on finding one anyway, no thanks

i have worked my *** off on dcon and spent money and time on the community that maybe should have been used better elsewhere if this is the thanks i get for the 49.99 a month i payed for the 2 graebtech dcon mirrors when dcon_ctf, and 0.1a was released, both of which maxxed there bandwidth by the second day! and what of the 80 bucks for the ded i have the stats system on! yeah i guess i could be more supportive than i have been, my bad!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

its not about a witch hunt there cheif... just allow me to stream this great idea and hard work you made without giving you admin rights to my server.

Your reasoning behind requesting such as thing doesn't hold merit with me since I know how files are viewed and run just like you do. So, its simple.... just watch the streaming servers to catch your padders of the DCON stats and if you have a issue with said server then contact them on it...if they fail to fix the issue after giving a warning of course then sure I can see pulling the feed from that server.

This is also not about money..I could care less if you cracked open your piggy bank jar from your early child hood. Its about support for YOUR MOD which we are trying to do but everytime someone such as myself requests help to do so you kick us in the balls with some BS (I need admin to your server) and so on.
I can be patient about the patch since it appears its not going to be released anytime in July but you have to understand that the MOD is DYING! Everyday I see the player count drop and this idea you worked on is GREAT! So again, its nothing against you that I post your response or your requests..but to show the rest of the community what is involved and to perhaps have this request dropped so I and others can supply a Great running server with this Mod running on it for everyone to play.

so upon finishing this response..just let me add Thanks to yourself and to the rest of the DCON Mod team for this great mod and the hard work you have done on it. I'm sure you guys have your issues and days like everyone else so carry on and I look forward to your email response about the streaming.

masterx
06-29-2007, 12:20 AM
hey dude i sent you an email before yourt last post go read it, and as for your attitude, fine keep your admin rights, you can stream, if i catch padders its toast! that simple, police it with your clanmates, and i will to!

You guys keep it clean i dont see an issue, if not then it will become a worry no more for me! may seem harsh but i hate cheaters and padders, point blank and period!!!

hey sava, add me to msn, icq, xfire whatever you got!

msn: my email address
ICQ: 265028259
xfire: masterxbkc

sava700
06-29-2007, 12:35 AM
may seem harsh but i hate cheaters and padders, point blank and period!!!

hey sava, add me to msn, icq, xfire whatever you got!



At least we agree on something.. I dislike em as well.. I'm a big pusher on the other forums for stats just to go away in Vanilla BF2 but guess money rules all to EA. As it seems to have gone to Quake Wars too so I'm going to skip that game altogether.

Its not harsh to say the least, I'll discuss this with a few clan mates and get back to you on it. Thanks

Mitch
07-01-2007, 09:23 PM
Thanks to MasterX we now have 2- DCON ranked servers up and running and I have posted the server information below. The 1st server is exactly the same as our current DCON server and the other is hosting crazy mods for DCON and we will be changing the up every once and a while to keep it interesting.

Please feel free to drop in and check out either one of our new DCON ranked servers. You can also find out more about any of our mod servers @ www.ckwclan.com (http://www.ckwclan.com)

Now with that said, I am sure my next statement will make you happy.:D

Effective July 2nd 2007 I will no longer be hosting DCON servers that are showing the EA ranked symbol in the browser:cool:

Thanks- Chronic


*Both servers were setup on Saturday July 1st

http://tomncincy.com/Picture%20Uploads/DCON/dconranked.PNG

http://www.game-monitor.com/server-stat-image/69.65.45.212:16567.png

http://www.game-monitor.com/server-stat-image/69.65.45.213:16567.png

imported_Kinsman
07-02-2007, 06:19 AM
Ok, i helped MasterX setup and test the system, so will try to clarify. No-one else needs admin of your server, for you to contribute stats to the central server backend. YOU (the server operator) however, need quite extensive access to your own server, to be able to do it. Hopefully thats a bit clearer.

We have our own stats system which is identical, had it for years actually. However, we now get our three Dcon Servers, to ALSO contribute their stats to the Central System. :yay:

http://bf2stats.gamingsa.com/servers/bf2stats/

We are also PSB Members, so all our servers stream live to Punksbusted. This doesnt interfere with anything, and we check our screenshots daily.

Mitch
07-03-2007, 05:07 PM
Ok, i helped MasterX setup and test the system, so will try to clarify. No-one else needs admin of your server, for you to contribute stats to the central server backend. YOU (the server operator) however, need quite extensive access to your own server, to be able to do it. Hopefully thats a bit clearer.

We have our own stats system which is identical, had it for years actually. However, we now get our three Dcon Servers, to ALSO contribute their stats to the Central System. :yay:

http://bf2stats.gamingsa.com/servers/bf2stats/

We are also PSB Members, so all our servers stream live to Punksbusted. This doesnt interfere with anything, and we check our screenshots daily.

That's great, I am glad to hear that we have some Australia servers streaming player stats to the site since that is what truly makes it a global system. :D

I would however like to see some additional US servers streaming player stats to the system so that there is a larger selection of servers on the network that cater to individual player styles wile still allowing them to earn stats on the system

We are also PBS Members so all of our servers stream to PB and we are using the PB MBL system on all of our servers as well.:cool:

http://www.punksbusted.com/psbsig/psbsig.php/3199.png (http://www.punksbusted.com/psbsig/psbsig.php?clanid=3199&showlatestban=1)

sava700
07-04-2007, 03:31 AM
I might look at streaming stats from ours when the patch comes out.. till then I'll spend time mowing the yard, painting the house and other fun things to till that day arrives.

kiff
07-04-2007, 04:31 AM
FOR THE RECORD

This is MasterX's stats system and not an official dcon stats system. If you give admin control to him it's out of our hands.

masterx
07-05-2007, 06:49 AM
i just found out about this little feature!:
http://graebtech.com/banner.JPG

so i dont need anyones admin rights to ban stats paddders and cheaters

Mitch
07-05-2007, 05:00 PM
FOR THE RECORD

This is MasterX's stats system and not an official dcon stats system. If you give admin control to him it's out of our hands.


This is the first negative comment I have made about the DCON mod and it saddens me to say this but it sounds as if you guys need to work out some internal issues because it would appear to diehard supporters like me that you folks are having some issues with how this is being deployed.

I gave up hosting a DCON server with a ranked symbol so that my servers could participate in this so you folks need to get you act together and decide on how this is going to work before you loose more support from players like myself.

I will say this and you can say not is not all you want, however until someone comes out with something better that will support any DCON server wishing to participate then as far as I am concerned, this is the official DCON stats system.

It almost looks as if you’re caving to the players that do nothing but complain and it’s my opinion you need to stop worrying about the lost causes and start focusing on players that do support this mod.

Get it together guys I don’t want to have to go looking for another mod to throw my support behind.:(

sava700
07-05-2007, 07:53 PM
This is the first negative comment I have made about the DCON mod and it saddens me to say this but it sounds as if you guys need to work out some internal issues because it would appear to diehard supporters like me that you folks are having some issues with how this is being deployed.

I gave up hosting a DCON server with a ranked symbol so that my servers could participate in this so you folks need to get you act together and decide on how this is going to work before you loose more support from players like myself.

I will say this and you can say not is not all you want, however until someone comes out with something better that will support any DCON server wishing to participate then as far as I am concerned, this is the official DCON stats system.

It almost looks as if you’re caving to the players that do nothing but complain and it’s my opinion you need to stop worrying about the lost causes and start focusing on players that do support this mod.

Get it together guys I don’t want to have to go looking for another mod to throw my support behind.:(


I couldn't have said it better my self mitch.... I'm still running a dcon server at the moment but I'm not streaming anything yet till I hear more word on a patch. At the moment I just don't feel its worth it without a patch to a MOD that is dying quickly. So as Mitch said..please get yourselves working more together and lets get this thing patched and the bugs worked out of the stats system and more so just work together!

{RR}SinisterCaesarSalad
07-10-2007, 01:41 AM
Kiff is just saying that DCon hasn't endorsed the system as a whole yet. Like X said, he's put in his own time and effort to get the system going, and maintaining it on his own. If the community likes the system, I'm sure making it official will come up in discussions.

And if that happens, I'll most likely form some sort of team similar to BFRoE to help combat padders and cheaters. But, that's for another time.

In the mean time, I've upgraded our clan's servers to post stats to the system as well.

Roughage Riders V0.1 Ranked - 72.232.137.27
DCon Official V0.1a - Texas USA - 72.232.137.28

If enough servers support it, we'll have to try and post a list of all the servers that post to the system for promoting. :salute:

Mitch
07-10-2007, 03:18 AM
Kiff is just saying that DCon hasn't endorsed the system as a whole yet. Like X said, he's put in his own time and effort to get the system going, and maintaining it on his own. If the community likes the system, I'm sure making it official will come up in discussions.

And if that happens, I'll most likely form some sort of team similar to BFRoE to help combat padders and cheaters. But, that's for another time.

In the mean time, I've upgraded our clan's servers to post stats to the system as well.

Roughage Riders V0.1 Ranked - 72.232.137.27
DCon Official V0.1a - Texas USA - 72.232.137.28

If enough servers support it, we'll have to try and post a list of all the servers that post to the system for promoting. :salute:

Glad to see more servers on the stats system.:D The list thing is a great idea,I will continue to support it for as long as they do.

Also while I am here I wanted to mention that we now have Battle Recorder running on both of the DCON server that we host.

Thanks- Mitch

http://www.game-monitor.com/server-stat-image/69.65.45.212:16567.png
http://www.punksbusted.com/psbsig/psbsig.php/server/69.65.45.212:16567.png
http://www.game-monitor.com/server-stat-image/69.65.45.213:16567.png
http://www.punksbusted.com/psbsig/psbsig.php/server/69.65.45.213:16567.png

sava700
07-10-2007, 03:22 AM
last thing missing is a patch....

Mitch
07-10-2007, 03:26 AM
last thing missing is a patch....

Agreed.....:D

{RR}SinisterCaesarSalad
07-10-2007, 04:50 AM
It's coming. :D I'm liking the current build the testers have. I have HUGE issues with lag on the Alpha, but none what-so-ever on the current patch build. Let's hope it'll be ready soon. I want to kill all of you. :laugh:

sava700
07-10-2007, 02:57 PM
It's coming. :D I'm liking the current build the testers have. I have HUGE issues with lag on the Alpha, but none what-so-ever on the current patch build. Let's hope it'll be ready soon. I want to kill all of you. :laugh:


well when you say soon.. its not going to be soon enough I'm afraid.

Mitch
07-10-2007, 03:07 PM
It's coming. :D I'm liking the current build the testers have. I have HUGE issues with lag on the Alpha, but none what-so-ever on the current patch build. Let's hope it'll be ready soon. I want to kill all of you. :laugh:


Yea I can't wait for the public release, I am on the phase 2 beta test team and I like what I see

well when you say soon.. its not going to be soon enough I'm afraid.


No sense in rushing it, if the new version is released before its ready then people won't play it anyway because it will still be full of bugs.

One of the biggest problems is the players rush the developers or mod teams to release before it is ready and then they either complain or they stop playing all together so in my opinion it would be better to cut them some slack and be patient so that they can get the bugs worked out prior to the release.

When all is said and done the diehard fans will still be here and the complainers will have hopefully moved on.

CATIA
07-10-2007, 03:24 PM
Tested some of the new maps lastnight and had a blast. I am positive people will love em.

Bigboom
07-10-2007, 06:18 PM
I'm actually a lot more excited about this patch than I was about the initial release. Not going to be soon enough? Well we'll see shall we :) . If it isn't soon enough then that's simply because the community are unwilling to give it another try. And if that's the case then it wouldn't have made a difference when we released this patch. It's quite sad that some 'fans' seem to have given up on the mod when the mod certainly hasn't given up on them. All we can do is just hope they'll be kind enough to give the mod another go and see that we're making strong progress in the right direction.

With the mix of bug fixes, new maps, code tweaks and other things that may be in the patch, pilots will love it, tankers will love it, infantry players will love it and those who currently can't play due to lag will love it. I'm quite confident that player numbers will rise once again with this patch. ;)

sava700
07-10-2007, 07:43 PM
Yea I can't wait for the public release, I am on the phase 2 beta test team and I like what I see




No sense in rushing it, if the new version is released before its ready then people won't play it anyway because it will still be full of bugs.

One of the biggest problems is the players rush the developers or mod teams to release before it is ready and then they either complain or they stop playing all together so in my opinion it would be better to cut them some slack and be patient so that they can get the bugs worked out prior to the release.

When all is said and done the diehard fans will still be here and the complainers will have hopefully moved on.

no sense in rushing it????? LOL its been almost 5 months!!!!

The competition leagues have already kissed this mod goodbye, at least I know CAL has. They just gave up waiting and started the tourney which is almost over.

Its now or never boys.. if there is still something found wrong then patch it again a week later!!! It has nothing to do with what I or anyone else that played that MOD says and I mean "PLAYED" cause I hardly play it anymore, but has all to do with the survival of the MOD that the DEV's put into it. I hate to see all that time and resources wasted but each day that goes by you lose another player.

do or die boys....

Bigboom;1499297']
With the mix of bug fixes, new maps, code tweaks and other things that may be in the patch, pilots will love it, tankers will love it, infantry players will love it and those who currently can't play due to lag will love it. I'm quite confident that player numbers will rise once again with this patch. ;)

the mod was great when it was first released..only a few minor things needed to be fixed, adding new content wasn't even a issue as we loved what was already there just wanted to play it lag free with out glitches which is the only thing that needed to be fixed and within a few weeks of the first release.

Waiting this long which is now almost 5 months to fix things but adding stuff in we didn't need is killing it.

Bigboom
07-10-2007, 08:48 PM
the mod was great when it was first released..only a few minor things needed to be fixed, adding new content wasn't even a issue as we loved what was already there just wanted to play it lag free with out glitches which is the only thing that needed to be fixed and within a few weeks of the first release.

And if those 'few minor things' are humanly impossible to fix within a few weeks, the rest of the devs who cannot help out in fixing the issues should just sit around twiddling there thumbs, rather than work on balancing, new tweaks, new maps etc. right? After all, there are some devs who can do nothing to fix the lag issues so it would be totally ridiculous for them to work on other stuff for the time being wouldn't it. They should just sit and do nothing, then wait for the patch to be released and only then start to work on new content. Because that way the mod would only waste time, slowing down development and make the community extremely pleased that they have to wait twice as long for the same amount of stuff......

Please don't take my sarcasm in the wrong way sava700 as it's not aimed at you in particular. Sarcasm is just a easy way of getting my point accross. If people have no idea what the issues are why do they assume they know exactly how long it takes to fix them?

Think of it like this. If your car broke down on the way to work, you wouldn't want me saying "Come on it's been 5 minutes and you still haven't fixed it. You need to get a move on otherwise your going to be late for work". Why wouldn't I say that? A) I don't know what the issue with your car is and therefore I don't know how long it will take to fix it. B) I'm sure you are perfectly aware that you may be late for work if you don't fix your car, and therefore I would be doing nothing else but stating the blindingly obvious, which does nothing but annoy you and waste your time.

Why is it that people are assuming we've been holding back this release just for the sake of new content, despite every member of the DCon team constantly telling them that this is definitely not the case. You've been told that lag issues are all but gone which should give you a pretty good idea of how soon you'll be seeing a patch...

masterx
07-10-2007, 10:10 PM
in reply to sinisters post on getting a list, i have a list, just need to ask me for it on msn and you shall recieve!

sava700
07-10-2007, 11:27 PM
Bigboom;1499403']And if those 'few minor things' are humanly impossible to fix within a few weeks, the rest of the devs who cannot help out in fixing the issues should just sit around twiddling there thumbs, rather than work on balancing, new tweaks, new maps etc. right? After all, there are some devs who can do nothing to fix the lag issues so it would be totally ridiculous for them to work on other stuff for the time being wouldn't it. They should just sit and do nothing, then wait for the patch to be released and only then start to work on new content. Because that way the mod would only waste time, slowing down development and make the community extremely pleased that they have to wait twice as long for the same amount of stuff......

Please don't take my sarcasm in the wrong way sava700 as it's not aimed at you in particular. Sarcasm is just a easy way of getting my point accross. If people have no idea what the issues are why do they assume they know exactly how long it takes to fix them?

Think of it like this. If your car broke down on the way to work, you wouldn't want me saying "Come on it's been 5 minutes and you still haven't fixed it. You need to get a move on otherwise your going to be late for work". Why wouldn't I say that? A) I don't know what the issue with your car is and therefore I don't know how long it will take to fix it. B) I'm sure you are perfectly aware that you may be late for work if you don't fix your car, and therefore I would be doing nothing else but stating the blindingly obvious, which does nothing but annoy you and waste your time.

Why is it that people are assuming we've been holding back this release just for the sake of new content, despite every member of the DCon team constantly telling them that this is definitely not the case. You've been told that lag issues are all but gone which should give you a pretty good idea of how soon you'll be seeing a patch...

You don't need to convince me... otherwise I wouldn't have a Dcon server up and running right now if I felt it was dead..i'm just telling you what the rest of the community is doing and thinking. Its very easy to see and read about all that on other forums and such.

But as you can see just from what you said here:
Why is it that people are assuming we've been holding back this release just for the sake of new content, despite every member of the DCon team constantly telling them that this is definitely not the case. You've been told that lag issues are all but gone which should give you a pretty good idea of how soon you'll be seeing a patch...

means everything in the world to hard core players of this MOD and the competition side of the community. If your constantly telling people over the last 5 months then you saying each time "you'll be seeing a patch..." doesn't mean nothing till the money is in the bank.

zuiquan1
07-10-2007, 11:57 PM
It will be done when the lag issues are completely fixed...not a minute sooner, not a minute later....



That is really all that needs to be said on the subject.

Bigboom
07-12-2007, 03:28 PM
It will be done when the lag issues are completely fixed...not a minute sooner, not a minute later....

So far all is progressing well with this build with the lag pretty much all but gone.

There ya go. That should give the community an idea of when this patch will be out. We're not talking months, we're talking days.

sava700
07-12-2007, 05:19 PM
Bigboom;1501037']There ya go. That should give the community an idea of when this patch will be out. We're not talking months, we're talking days.

I'm waiting..but seein as how POE2 is re-releasing the whole MOD AGAIN before DCON can even release one patch...I'm prob moving on and pushing all our assests to it than sticking around another few weeks/months for a patch that should have been released months ago.. sorry guys! :cry:

+DNC+BongSquad
07-17-2007, 04:37 PM
DCON is still the only reason I have BF2 installed. I am excited about this next release.

But I am still a sad panda.

This patch schedule is extremely unfortunate. There is no long-term hope for a nice list of populated dcon servers if this "patch" timing is any indication. toooo slooowwwww

It has become painfully clear that there are just not enough devs on the dcon team. It's clear that they have a few bright and productive people working, but it is also clear how little content-per-time they can put out relative to PR mod and POE mod.

Are you still trying to recruit talent? Get some of the USI team to join forces!

Mitch
07-19-2007, 08:28 PM
Howdy Fellow DCON Fans!

I wanted to take a minute and stop by to pimp the DCON stats system to you folks. While I am not personally involved in the managing or maintaining the stats system, I do have both of our DCON servers streaming player stats and I would like to encourage all DCON server operators to signup and get your servers listed also.

Unlike server side stats, this system is able to receive player stats from any server that is listed on the network and while I see approximately 84 or 85 servers hosting the mod there are only 7- servers currently listed so I would like to again encourage you guys to get your servers listed so that this can truly be a close as possible to a global stats for all DCON players.

Below you will find a link to where you can check to see which servers are currently participating as well as a link to where you can check your player stats if you game on any of the servers listed. So again at the risk of overly repeating myself, if your server is not listed please apply to get it listed as this is a nice feature that will not only help grow player interest in the mod, it will also help attract stat based players to the servers that are participating.

As I mentioned, we currently have 2- servers listed at IP 69.65.45.212 & 69.65.45.213, so I would like to invite fans of this mod to stop by and check out either our servers or any of the others that are listed. If you have any questions or if you would like to get your server listed please visit one of the links below.

Before I finish, I wanted to thank MasterX for all the time and hard work he has invested in this project.

Servers Currently Streaming Stats: http://fpsfix.com/dconstats/servers.php

DCON Player Stats: http://fpsfix.com/dconstats/

Thanks- Mitch

http://www.game-monitor.com/server-stat-image/69.65.45.212:16567.png
http://www.punksbusted.com/psbsig/psbsig.php/server/69.65.45.212:16567.png

http://www.game-monitor.com/server-stat-image/69.65.45.213:16567.png
http://www.punksbusted.com/psbsig/psbsig.php/server/69.65.45.213:16567.png

HaVOCK-ElEEt
07-19-2007, 09:41 PM
Comparing dcon to POE2, why?

Very different games, very. POE2 has been less than a smash anyways. I like the mod myself, but it wa nowhere near the revolution it was supposed to be when it was released. For a time, it had more devs than players it seemed.

Play what you want, and stop telling the devs what to do. USI should not join up with dcon. dcon should do what they have been doing, and pay next to no attention to the crap I read on a daily basis.

Just listen to your fans, give them what they are looking for, in the time your able to do it.

I think Sava just enjoys mentioning 20 times a day that dcon moves too slow, and that he is only going to be be friends with the POE2 team. Only the pubbers make this into a competition, I never see it from the devs. Thats kind of ironic, isnt it?

sava700
07-19-2007, 10:39 PM
I think Sava just enjoys mentioning 20 times a day that dcon moves too slow, and that he is only going to be be friends with the POE2 team. Only the pubbers make this into a competition, I never see it from the devs. Thats kind of ironic, isnt it?

Wow.. responding a post I put up over 7 days ago...
I never said I didn't like DCON, I really enjoyed playing it. I like playing POE also and I look forward to tomorrows Client release. But like I said in the last post.. "I'm Waiting" I'm waiting on the next patch to see how much was put into it..was it worth the wait? I hope so. Overall I've taken down my teams DCON server for the reason that its just not that played anymore..not so much as by me but the majority of the players I hang around mostly in the competition community. I felt like it was a chore to even fool with the DCON stat system after I had to argue about "certain requirements" which were soon lifted in order to stream..so I said the hell with it.

I feel like you HaVOCK-ElEEt only enjoy posting behind me to protect something that doesn't need protection from me or anyone else. Again, DCON is a great MOD and hats off to the guys that made it..but I've moved our assets on to something else as I was going to do anyway when Crysis came out.

If you wish to respond to people saying way more than I ever did here ya go.
http://desert-conflict.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7569&page=4

Scroll on down and read through that whole thread.. its very good reading on both ends..but this post linked below says it best.

http://desert-conflict.org/forum/showpost.php?p=84362&postcount=34

HaVOCK-ElEEt
07-20-2007, 01:43 AM
Keep an eye on Frontlines as well SAVA. Its going to be lightyears more fun than QW I think. Crysis looks bad ***. Hopefully it is both fun single player and Multi as well.

I don't know much about the stat system issue you mentioned, but I hope there is no stat system in dcon TBH. Unless its a server side option. Stats will make me leave the mod I think.