Kiss it Goodby

[ReaperOfsouls]

There are some notable tweaks in the gameplay that are worth mentioning, since many of the conventions found in Battlefield 2 have been changed. Take, for instance, medics. There is no dedicated medic class in Battlefield 2142. Instead, the standard assault class can unlock a medic kit, which can be used to heal you and friendly units. However, you won't be able to scatter multiple kits at the same time. Instead, you're given a single health kit that can be deployed onto the ground. It will not instantly heal a friendly, like Battlefield 2's kits can, but it will slowly heal all friendly units within a small radius. Meanwhile, defibrillators to revive fallen teammates are another unlock.

FINALLY No more "First Aid Here" lol.

What effect do you think this will have on teamplay? Will it reall work?

They sure are changing a lot of things to promote team work I hope it works.

[St.Sasquatch]

hmm.. i dunno.. we will find a way to play with it and everything will be fine.. trust me..:)

[Elit3_Hawkins]

I am greatfull, there will be no more medic whores but it probably wont effect much just need to be smart about where you put the medic ''bag/unit thingy''

[Silent_Ops]

ya ppl will figure out a way to make it really profitable but, as a medic, it will b a change from getting instant pnts just by throwing them down but eh its ok ill adjust, but one of my first unlocks will b the defrib w00t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Elit3_Hawkins]

It wont for me I want my unlock to be a really good upgrade for a weapon so im not behind... My main piont is not to die as much , not to earn points(like with the defib)

[okashii]

new medic teamwork :

wait for your friend to get killed so you can revive him instead of using a medic ''bag/unit thingy'' :P

but seriously I like the Idea <you won't be able to scatter multiple kits at the same time. Instead, you're given a single health kit that can be deployed onto the ground. It will not instantly heal a friendly, like Battlefield 2's kits can, but it will slowly heal all friendly units within a small radius>

[Elit3_Hawkins]

new medic teamwork :

wait for your friend to get killed so you can revive him instead of using a medic ''bag/unit thingy'' :P

but seriously I like the Idea

like the idea of what ????

But still I would want a weapon upgrade to kill people

[DarQraven]

@Okashii: there's nothing new to that, it's what they do NOW too :p
My idea for a good teambased game (and I know it is impossible to do), is program some sort of tactical AI into the server. That way, you would not get points just for reviving someone, but only if you did it at an adequate time, i.e. not someone in front of a tank.
Or capping a flag that is strategically important (that strategy being predefined by either the commander or playtesting by the dev's).
Or for example, getting more points for going out of your way and attacking a lone specops guy going for your satellite dish, rahter than killing random cannon fodder. Also, kills from behind a.k.a sneaky kills could be rewarded, BC you either surprised/outsmarted the enemy, flanked them, or were just plain lucky, in which case some extra points add to the fun;)

Maybe after a while, when this system has perfected, you don't get any points for kills at all, just like you don't score points in a ctf round. Only teamwork, tactical playing, and completing objectives/orders will earn you points.

Sigh ...the beauty of it ... and at the same time knowing it will never be realised.

[Elit3_Hawkins]

Sigh ...the beauty of it ... and at the same time knowing it will never be realised.

Yeah i know some people have great ideas but noone will ever notice

[kiss my RICE]

Sweet! It seems to me that we're going to be getting plenty of heal points! If you and your squad are defending a flag, drop one of these kits as the mobile heal-point...which will heal all the friendlys in an area around it...sweet!

[Elit3_Hawkins]

LOT'O'POINTS hell yeah

[MrBenis]

The simple answer here is just to throw 2 or 3 on the ground, in the same spot, as they become available.

You'll get heal points, you betchya.

I wonder if they'll do ammo in the same way?

[okashii]

I wonder if you can re-supply medic-packs by support class

[Ping King]

No more run and gunning with a med kit.
I know I run around with a med kit in my hand healing me while I run away from the enemy, once healed I pull out my gun and rape him afterwords.

[Cicchetti]

I dont mind it at all did anyone see how the medic kit opens when you throw it out looks pretty sick

[Elit3_Hawkins]

I dont mind it at all did anyone see how the medic kit opens when you throw it out looks pretty sick

What do you mean by sick??

[okashii]

Awesome, cool

[Elit3_Hawkins]

god D@MN I feel dumb

[Splinter]

good to hear, no more madic pack spam, should make the 3D screen less cluttered.
Let's be honest, they only way in bf2 earn 100,000 points is to be a medic whore, and I hate playing as medic, that's why I'm only a first sgt.

[MrBenis]

good to hear, no more madic pack spam, should make the 3D screen less cluttered.
Let's be honest, they only way in bf2 earn 100,000 points is to be a medic whore, and I hate playing as medic, that's why I'm only a first sgt.

LOL! I surpassed 100,000 points a few days ago! Check out my medic stas... only like 1400 revives.. 400 odd heals.

I play support, coz I'm a hero!

[Elit3_Hawkins]

LOL! I surpassed 100,000 points a few days ago! Check out my medic stas... only like 1400 revives.. 400 odd heals.

I play support, coz I'm a hero!

MAN you must of been a 24/7 karkland medic whore

[kiss my RICE]

Wow...Mr. Benis, you're the man! 1400 revivies X 2= 2800 points..out of 100,000. That is amazing Benis, really good work there, not depending on medic, maybe because you're just part of the older generation. ;)

[Elit3_Hawkins]

Wow...Mr. Benis, you're the man! 1400 revivies X 2= 2800 points..out of 100,000. That is amazing Benis, really good work there, not depending on medic, maybe because you're just part of the older generation. ;)

What do you mean by ''older generation'' ???

[3lliot3vans]

What do you mean by ''older generation'' ???
Lol!, that's what i thought

What you trying to get at rice?

:laugh:

[MrBenis]

I'm only 18 :D

EDIT: http://bf2s.com/player/44788034/

1,369 revives.
404 heal.
55/800 hours as medic........

I'm NOT a medic whore.

[3lliot3vans]

I'm only 18 :D
Exactly :laugh:

[okashii]

404 heal

404 heal error - no heal points found :P

[MrBenis]

Could be worse.. what if I had 409 heals? :rolleyes:

[kiss my RICE]

Lol!, that's what i thought

What you trying to get at rice?

:laugh:

People who came in from BF1942 and BFV, they didn't really realize the uberness of the medic. Some guys in my clan are "tuff vets" from the BF series. They get pissed at anything and everyone. One time I killed one guy, and he demanded that I give him my computer specs. So, I typed out my computer specs to the guy, and he challenged me to fight him again. It got repetative...because he didn't understand how he couldn't kill me though his computer was faster. BTW: He had a jackhammer, and I was PKMing.;)

[menace-uk-]

I dont care im still going to be a medic:D

[Dangerdog]

so on the flip side if the enemy takes advantage of your health/supply pack do you lose points for aiding and abiding the enemy?

I'm just kidding, that would be hard core though. Putting a pack down, getting killed and then seeing your score go down ha ha now that would put and end to medic/supply pack whoring!

[kiss my RICE]

Same, but you should call it assault ;). The gun rocks, you can self heal, and you've still got emp and the grenade launcher. I have a question though...can you still switch to the kit and automatically heal, or do you have to drop it, wait until it opens up, and then begin the healing?

[Dangerdog]

You can probably hold it out but I bet it heals people a lot slower, putting the kit down gives away your position to the enemy in BF2, unless they changed that then I bet you can still hold it out.

[Splinter]

I play support, coz I'm a hero!
LIES!!!!1one1
When I was in your squad you were medic.
;)
I get my points by killing, maybe that's why I'm only on 42000 points after a year:laugh:

[MrBenis]

Apparently 80,000 odd of my points are from kills... I do have 40,000 kills after all.

The rest is a combination of commander and teamwork, though I have no idea how that works. In theory, I should have about 140,000 points..

Ah well.. yea Splinter, you caught me in one of those rare times I play the medic kit hehe..

[Splinter]

Global Score: 42,821
Combat Score: 34,040
Team Score: 9,557
Kills: 17020
Medic Heals: 359
Revives: 1142
Resupplies: 843
Repair: 192

I find it annoying that I have 17000 kills yet so few point's, I reckon we should get more point's for killing things:D

[Alaz]

This is fantastic, i tell you why. It stops an enemy from picking up one of your medi packs if you just dump a few at one of your bases.

ALSO it means that if you're a medic and you get killed by someone and got him to 1-2 bars of HP, he can't just dump a medi bag out from your kit and heal himself in 2 seconds. He has to sit there and heal himself, probably for as long as it takes you to respawn and own him.

Absolutely fantastic changes, i couldn't have done it better myself.

[Elit3_Hawkins]

yeah me too

[MrBenis]

Global Score: 42,821
Combat Score: 34,040
Team Score: 9,557
Kills: 17020
Medic Heals: 359
Revives: 1142
Resupplies: 843
Repair: 192

I find it annoying that I have 17000 kills yet so few point's, I reckon we should get more point's for killing things:D

Well, you have less than 1/2 my hours so I'd say you're doing pretty well..

[Elit3_Hawkins]

Its sooo hard to get repair points yet you have 192

[MrBenis]

E-benis time: "ooh ooh, I have more!"

[Elit3_Hawkins]

Good job!!!!

[okashii]

From one of the vids it looks like the medic-pack when deployed would take about 10 seconds to re-heal you from 1 health-bar to full

[Elit3_Hawkins]

And sooo....

[Splinter]

I like playing as engy, pump action shotty kicks ***!!!
I got most of those repair point's back when the BH owned, I used to sit in the back with my wrench going for the entire round, pretty borring but it was a good way to get point's.

[okashii]

what I would also like to see is that you cannot revive players killed by headshot
<and tanks, battle walkers...> so that it will not be like "ok they nerfed the medic-packs so we whore with defibs now"

or even <but that may be too radical> when you fall <critally wounded, 15s>
an enemy can finish you off with a head shot...

[Elit3_Hawkins]

or even <but that may be too radical> when you fall <critally wounded, 15s>
an enemy can finish you off with a head shot...

That would be cool

[Splinter]

I agree with the "not able to revive headshot people" it should be like when your killed by arty, you just die and dont become wounded, where's the point in pulling of a sweet headshot if some medic comes prancing by and ZAP off you little thing:hmm:

[okashii]

that exactly what i mean, especially when you pull of a sweat headshot without
the rifle stabilazer ;)

[BurningMonkeyFur]

It wont for me I want my unlock to be a really good upgrade for a weapon so im not behind... My main piont is not to die as much , not to earn points(like with the defib)
I'm gonna grab me a nice weapon too, but I'm gonna wait until someone shouts out "[Insert Weapon Here] is way too overpowered" And then I'm gonna milk the moment as much as I can :rolleyes:

[ReaperOfsouls]

good to hear, no more madic pack spam, should make the 3D screen less cluttered.

Exactly :salute:

[Elit3_Hawkins]

Exactly :salute:

I completley agree also...

[Serenity]

why dont they do warcraft style chat?

you have a box where only the chat of players is said then a "combat log" where the commander spots n **** are seen.

[MrBenis]

They do. It's only active in commander mode though, otherwise just press tidle.

A chat log box would clutter the screen, and before you try to justify, if you even MENTION WoW here, I'll rip off your testicles.

[Elit3_Hawkins]

They do. It's only active in commander mode though, otherwise just press tidle.

A chat log box would clutter the screen, and before you try to justify, if you even MENTION WoW here, I'll rip off your testicles.

ROTFLMMFAO , yeah I will too...

[kiss my RICE]

They do. It's only active in commander mode though, otherwise just press tidle.

A chat log box would clutter the screen, and before you try to justify, if you even MENTION WoW here, I'll rip off your testicles.

So I was playing WoW at my friends house the other day, its was pretty great. The monthly fees nearly pay for the game...it's like a 3-D Diablo. There are seriously an infinite amount of quests to do...and the raids nearly scream awesome teamwork. Boy, this does sound pretty nerdy coming from me....I feel like I should excersise to get off this "nerd" feeling...ehhhh! This is not spam. You can just try to rip off my jewels...I'll have my cup on...it's extra-hard for that "unrippable protection".

[Kradath]

I completley agree also...

it seems nearly everybody agrees :D

yeah its a good idea against hundreds of packs lying by the flags...

[Elit3_Hawkins]

I wonder how fast the health will raise because of this new system of healing...

[Cloud9]

Screw gun unlocks for my first two upgrades..I'm getting med packs and defibs...just think assault now gives you a medic class with heavy armor. Sprinting will be much slower, but you can unlock sprint and stamina as well. The only real downside to medic now is the lack of body armor.

[Ins4n3]

FINALLY No more "First Aid Here" lol.

What effect do you think this will have on teamplay? Will it reall work?

They sure are changing a lot of things to promote team work I hope it works.

This game is really changing away from BF2 now, its going to be so much better.

[Kradath]

This game is really changing away from BF2 now, its going to be so much better.

agree, it seems that the first rounds will be hard for veryone, because you nearly got only a weapon :D

[Elit3_Hawkins]

Yeah ...i think they put tooo many unlocks and somethings need to be already there and not be unlocked...

[Kradath]

Yeah ...i think they put tooo many unlocks and somethings need to be already there and not be unlocked...

yeah, thats right, do you have to unlock your first greande too?

[Elit3_Hawkins]

No but you have to unlock the abilities to carry more thanone...

[okashii]

sorry but grenade is a unlock also

[Elit3_Hawkins]

What really...meaning you cant even have a grenade until tou unlock it??? Now that is really gay and stupid...

[Kradath]

sorry but grenade is a unlock also
source, plz?

[okashii]

I explained it before on some thread...look at any class/equpment selection menu pic, there is 5 item unlocks and you can see in videos,screens.... that grenade is one of them

[Alaz]

This has been done to encourage team work, it'll sure make the first few weeks of gameplay interesting before everyone has the bare parts of their fav kit.

Its the kind of game where if you get killed by a tank at your base you can't just respawn as AT like you may do in BF2 because you've specailised in another kit for example, support and now you have to rely on a team mate to take him down, perhaps give him cover fire or something.

It could potentially work awful if nobody works together but if done well, makes a nice sense of teamwork. Also it adds to your individualism as a soldier on the Battlefield, In BF2 all you have is your name, in 2142 you're going to be able to say that you are what your specialised kit is, that is until you get enough points to unlock more.... or if you're one of those strange types that unlocks bits and bobs from all kits.

[ReaperOfsouls]

This game is really changing away from BF2 now, its going to be so much better.

Ya nothing can compare to BF2 other than the same engine thats why I hate when people call it a mod.

[Elit3_Hawkins]

Yeah...so many people are calling it a mod and its NOT...It's going to be such a great game...

[hakojako]

umm...did i miss something...? who said ull be able to pick any unlockable u want what if theres a order?

[Elit3_Hawkins]

I already said thaat there was a tech tree...

[Kradath]

Ya nothing can compare to BF2 other than the same engine thats why I hate when people call it a mod.
and i dont understand people saying they wont spend 50bucks for the game, because bf2 is only 1,5 years old....other guys pay 15bucks a month for mmorpgs and youll only get a bit more content and updates, but its everytime the same game, these guys are guys, who only want to say anything bad about the game :rolleyes:

[MrBenis]

Maybe, but WoW is just poo. Even my once-obsessed older brother has since seen how crap the game is, and quit.

[kiss my RICE]

It is the same engine, but what people don't seem to realize is that they have completely maximized the potential of BF2's engine, so this is going to look completely new, and much, much better.

[=7Cav=Travis]

no more stat padding

[Kradath]

It is the same engine, but what people don't seem to realize is that they have completely maximized the potential of BF2's engine, so this is going to look completely new, and much, much better.
my words :)

[=7Cav=Travis]

well put

[Elit3_Hawkins]

Twisted Metal....Stop spamming with two word posts...

[Stryker]

It could be a bad thing, I mean as of right now the MEdic class is dead in BF2. I really hope teamwork is awarded and has more teamwork. I see more people killing teammates then killing enemies.

[Elit3_Hawkins]

I dont...or mabey its just because I uninstalled BF2 ...lol

[=7Cav=Travis]

It could be a bad thing, I mean as of right now the MEdic class is dead in BF2. I really hope teamwork is awarded and has more teamwork. I see more people killing teammates then killing enemies.


what servers do you play on man i really only see commanders killing teammates and the one time retard who gets tired of getting owned and goes on the other team and kill the people that killed him.

[ReaperOfsouls]

Medic class dead? Not on any of the server I play on we have to many medics and not enough support.

I am sure that won't be a problem in BF2.

[=7Cav=Travis]

hopefully you never know.