Any clan players here?

[DarQraven]

Have any of you ever played in a (serious) clan?
If so,
1) What kind of tactics/planning did your clan apply, and was that planning detailed or a basic idea of where to go?
2) Did you ever practice certain 'drills' on a clanserver? Like practice timing for surprise/fake attacks, etc?
3) What kind of comms did you use? TS/ventrilo , comm->infantry / sqd.ld.->members / comm -> sqd. ld. or all at the same time?
4) What did you guys do in order to keep the clan gaming at it's full potential, in other words keep everything organised and smooth during matches?

Also, I play a lot of paintball IRL, and have found that a lot of military drills work while paintballing, and don't when playing bf2 or shooters in general, while some strategies applied by the military don't work in paintball and DO work online. Any experience concerning this?

(I have to play commander role in my next few tournaments, and I'm trying to find my way around over/under-commanding. Or just commanding plain wrong.)

And as I just realised that I'm turning this into a bf2 post instead of 2142 (which is not the setup of this forum...)
What elements would you like to see implemented in either 2142's commander mode or gameplay that could enhance tactical effectiveness/possibilities?

[kiss my RICE]

Is Battleforce UK a serious enough clan?

Also..I have been airsofting, and real-world tactics work there also. The key is just to be patient and careful. Patient when camping with a airsoft shotgun loaded, and careful when turning corners.

[St.Sasquatch]

yeah! im in a clan! [TKH]! very very nice and funny people there.. thats why i like it..

1) hm.. we are actually made for keeping the TV2 servers (check them out!!:D) clean from glitchers/hackers/cheaters/tkers/ptkers and such..
2) neh.. not really.. we had many trainings but we dont actually got any tactics for use.. but me and my friend trains a lot with chopper.. we are the perfect fighter heli team.. gold and silver on every round..:D
3) TS and squad talk.. we used ts to tlak with the hole team and we splited up in squads and the squads could talk togheter.. made a great game!
we dident actually play many matches.. you know.. 1.3.. we had one and we won.. but hey, they.. well.. lets say they werent pro..;)

and we havent really met irl.. me and my chopper pilot have.. we are firends tought.. or.. well.. i was training teakwondo with him before so i met him there..:D

[Koen]

Kiss my rice, you've ever heard about an 'edit' button?
Ontopic: I think teamspeak is a good program for communicating while playing the game, that's all I can say about this one for now..

[kiss my RICE]

1. We actually had "something". Our leader tried to command us, but it failed miserably, he tried to go too in-detail on what to do EXACTLY. The entire plan was flawed..it was basically, charge this flag, and try not to die or I'll shoot you.
2. We practice all the cool BF2 moves, including: dolphin diving, prone-jumping, and just noob spraying.
3. We have bad communication, a mic is prefered, but I don't have one, so I can't talk much. The commander tells the squad leaders where to point, who tells us where to point out guns.
4. Our leader yelled alot, but to me, through all his ranting a screaming of the word "pwnorzed", all I got was "WIN or DIE". So we won.

[St.Sasquatch]

yeah.. teamspeak makes the game better.. when me and my pilot/friend are playing we always use ts.. "take the tank there and i'll do that.. bla bla bla" it just helps! a lot!

[kiss my RICE]

Teamspeak allows for faster communication, but one time in the server, someone used a mic, and it sounded like a girl's voice, the team went wild. And, I admit though our clan is a good one, there were some..*ahem* lewd comments thrown around. Anyways, after the girl talked, the entire server (50 players) was abuzz about "OMG AN ACTUAL GIRL I THOUGHT THEY WERE ONLY IN FAIRTY TALE GAMES." So teamspeak can create some problems like that. I couldn't even believe the overreaction...it was chaos. Once the other team got a wiff of it, they threw even MORE lewd comments at the girl. Soon, she left after saying some stuff to us. I was just laughing by that time.

[ReaperOfsouls]

I personally prefer venrilo over teamspeak.

The voice qulity is better and it puts less stress on your PC.

[|D|-Max]

I'm in a clan and we are in CAL and TWL.
and made it to the playoffs in CAL:D

[DarQraven]

Alright, to answer my own questions :p ...

Our clan never really applied any real tactics ... at least, I thought them up, playtested them with some other dudes I used to play with, perfected them...and then in a match nobody listened to me :p
I guess you could say that our old clan was nothing more than a reason to put a clantage before our names (for most of those guys anyway, some were serious, but left BC of what I just described).

When I did play commander and they listened, we used to do all kinds of cool stuff like faking attacks on a flag, luring them there, and then taking over 3 other flags while all the tanks were looking for us, using TS to time attacks on a flag, so that we would attack from opposite sides at exactly the same moment, etc...

What I'd like to see in bf2142 is the integration of "ATC for bf2" in the commander mode. Often what I find annoying is that you know what you want to do, have to react quickly, but have to send 6 different squads to the same spot, all having to select them and point them where to go.
If you could just preset certain strategies and moves(made in either ATC or something like that), and hotkey them it would be pretty damn cool.
Say like, I preset that the 3 squads closest to flag 2 have to attack that one, and the other 2 squads have to walk around the action and sneak up behind the enemy, I would press that button, and it would show the "move to" and "attack" commands instantly.

Btw, I think RICE mentioned this.. how did you set up TS so that the comm could talk to only the squad leaders, and the squad leaders only to the members of their own squad?
In a 4-squad 16 player team communication can get quite messy if you talk all at once.

[kiss my RICE]

Errm..I think that is the default setting of the speakers. Reset yours to default and you will be fine. It is supposed to be sorted like that. Then again, I don't have a mic, though it is preferred in our clan. It works pretty well..because no one is being an A$$ and doing their version of smurf/simpson/family guy/south park impressions which suck. Squads can only talk to themselves, but our clan leader, Brute, can talk to squad leaders. We never had an open mic...so that everyone can hear everyone else talk. Only squads can talk amongst themselves, and the commander talks/sends commands to them. Works fine.

[MrBenis]

The most serious clan action I've ever been involved in was when 5 dudes from the =ISF= clan joined my squad.. "only because I was in a good spot" I was told later :rolleyes:

Otherwise............ no actually..
thats about the only reason clan members join my squad. Most of the time I get guys who are freelance like me. Which suits me fine, ya know, because if they screw around I just kick them and then lock the squad. Works fine.

[XeroStatic]

I am the leader of a team currently and have been in numerous teams/clans for over 4 years. I have been in the CAL playoffs, I have scrimmed for hours a night.

The thing is this, regardless if you like to pub with your teammates or scrim another clan, as long as you are trying to get better as a small unit then you can take over a public server with just one cohesive squad. I know many people have been in a public server and seen just one squad of clan members just dominate the round. Teamplay works!

Ventrilo>Teamspeak....enough said

Before matches, we have everyone come up with their strategy for that particular map. No later than two days before the match, we all would join our ATC server for BF2 (http://www.foolishentertainment.com) and everyone would get a chance to 'brief' their strat. This gave everyone a chance to contribute to the strategy and not just follow orders. We then would select the most tactically sound and feasibly strat and then practice it on our server with no one else. Once we had everything down, we searched for scrims and would spend the last day before a match scrimming constantly.

I am in the military and obviously some tactics work and some don't for many different reasons. The faint works (fake attack), suppport by fire, flanking attack, all these tactics work in certain situations but not all. It takes a smart experienced commander to understand the enemy and how they fight in less than a round and exploit their weakness. Good commanders can destroy the other team in record time. Like a 199-0 USMC win on Karkand is a pretty good example.

The only thing I would change about Commander mode is that when I put that artillery icon right on an enemy infantry or vehicle, I want them dead. I am so tired of arty going in and hitting all around a tank but not the tank itself when the arty icon is right over them.






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[DarQraven]

Xero Static, in what depth/what kind of strategies did you plan beforehand?
I remember playing some matches with just a basic outline like "squad 1 faints hotel, squads 2,3,4 go around and take train accident, send over the tank, c4 the bridge, and continue from there on."
On the other hand, I've seen people describe how the individual members of a squad should assault 1 particular flag.
How did you manage this?

I usually play commander succesfully when paintballing, thus the player of choice as bf2 commander. In paintball a good strategy is choosing one strong side(based on handedness of players, terrain, other team's previous tactics, and pure chance) and sending most of your troops there, leaving the other side open, except for a small, but strong defense/ambush. Does a strategy like this work just like that in bf2, or will it take some adjustments?

[XeroStatic]

It depended on how much time we had to prepare before the match. If we were short on time, we did a broad brush stroke, talking no lower than squad level. If we had a few days, we got down to who carried what kit, what squad they needed to be in, what they were responsible for (i.e. AT guy tanks out tank, jihad jeep takes out APC, etc.), and when they needed to spawn on the squadleader. 2x sprint is the sh*t when it is a race to the first flag. Squad leader would usually be sniper because of lengthened sprint and then he would fall back and spot for the assault squad and provide fire from a distance.

This is just an example of the way we approach things. Other teams do things differently. Hopefully other team members will share like I have done.