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Ravenlein
08-28-2006, 07:52 PM
Which unlocks are you veterans of BF2 going to get for 2142?

I myself just pre-ordered, so I'll get two free unlocks... A headstart if you like. :p

Not decided which I'm going to unlock yet, I'll probably wait for the demo actually.

Which are you people thinking about unlocking first?

ReaperOfsouls
08-28-2006, 07:56 PM
What ever it takes to get the Heavy Assult Rifle.

JustAnotherGrunt
08-28-2006, 08:02 PM
To be honest, the speed in which you get unlocks early on in the game is almost on an unlock-per-round basis. 1 unlock for the Vet Program/Pre-Order is really, really modest.

Here's an idea: Keep hold of it. Dont use it right away. ;)

Ravenlein
08-28-2006, 08:07 PM
To be honest, the speed in which you get unlocks early on in the game is almost on an unlock-per-round basis. 1 unlock for the Vet Program/Pre-Order is really, really modest.

Here's an idea: Keep hold of it. Dont use it right away. ;)

So you can use it later on in the game eh? Didn't think of that. :) Will be very useful in the later ranks if that is correct...

3lliot3vans
08-28-2006, 08:08 PM
Probably something to help me get more points for more unlocks such as defibs etc :D

ReaperOfsouls
08-28-2006, 08:09 PM
I will use it right off the bat. I do not think I will benifit from saving it for later because no matter what you are still two (or one) unlock closer to the max you can get.

3lliot3vans
08-28-2006, 08:11 PM
That's True, i think i'll get something for Recon, Either the carbine or C-7

Omg, i just thought now, how the heck will you blow titans up at the very start of the game when no one has c-7!?!?!?!

The Pro
08-28-2006, 08:23 PM
That's True, i think i'll get something for Recon, Either the carbine or C-7

Omg, i just thought now, how the heck will you blow titans up at the very start of the game when no one has c-7!?!?!?!You use guns or missiles.
BTW you cant use your rankup later in the game:(

Seal
08-28-2006, 08:27 PM
What ever it takes to get the Heavy Assult Rifle.

Amen!

xR3LOADx
08-28-2006, 08:44 PM
Ill get the Defib.

LOL you cant get any weps to begin with people.

Swanston
08-28-2006, 08:48 PM
Let's not forget people that the grenade is an unlock :laugh:.

Considering that I would have to start with the basics and unlock that since its so simple but yet so very essential.

ReaperOfsouls
08-28-2006, 08:50 PM
Ya thats probally what I am going to use my two free unlocks on, grenades and something else.

CrysisPwnz
08-28-2006, 09:00 PM
Obviously a defrib and grenade...

Ill play recon for the points and ranks, and I've always been fine with just a sniper and pistol, infact i love the EU pistol..

Silent_Ops
08-28-2006, 09:17 PM
im gona go get the defribs so that we wont always die we haev a better chance of winning with me and my Fribs lol i like that name

cantina_fly
08-28-2006, 09:57 PM
I don't think they are "free" unlocks in all senses of the word. I'd wager they just promote you through the first two ranks. So why joe-smoe needs 40pts to get his first rank/unlock (lvl2?) You'll already be two ranks ahead of him (lvl3) and working toward your 3rd rank up (and hense need more then 40pts.) You won't have any more/less unlocks then anyone else, you'll just get access to them sooner. You're only getting a couple round start on someone who's not a veteran/preorder person, but damn if it isn't good marketting. ;) Especially when you consider the way BF2 people view unlocks.

Deadeye313
08-28-2006, 10:10 PM
I think I will save the free upgrade till I find out what rank is the "sergeant Major" rank of BF2142. Those of you who took the long trek know what I'm talking about.

coolbho3000
08-28-2006, 10:22 PM
For my recon guy I'll need Nades, then C7, then claymores, then continue down the C7 path all the way down to the Lambert Caribine. This'll be my Titan assault guy. :)

RavenRealms
08-28-2006, 10:24 PM
I'll get everything Recon :)

Deadeye313
08-28-2006, 10:31 PM
I ultimately want to get those support sentry drones. reminds me of my tribes 2 days when I placed those little buggers everywhere.

3lliot3vans
08-28-2006, 10:32 PM
In my opinion guns are worth more, maybe they should of made it 2 unlocks to get a gun. But hey!! im not complaining ;)

ReaperOfsouls
08-28-2006, 10:33 PM
I have never played tribes so I do not know this:

Were teh drones in tribes balanced? Or where they over powered?

Deadeye313
08-28-2006, 10:38 PM
they were little ones about 2 feet high (if they were real). One was used to be attached to building the other had a little drill to drill itself into the ground.

the indoor one had a little energy shooter that shot little pink balls of energy at you. the outside one had a more powerful plasma shooter.

While you could be killed by the things, they weren't very hard to take out.

I used to place them everywhere and several in an area could create some deadly crossfire. while you can take out one by yourself, 2 or 3 would take you out.

cantina_fly
08-29-2006, 12:33 AM
I think I will save the free upgrade till I find out what rank is the "sergeant Major" rank of BF2142. Those of you who took the long trek know what I'm talking about.
Call me a liar later on if I'm wrong, but I don't think you'll have a choice "when" to use that free rank up.

I also think I'll sandbag my unlocks at first and figure out my playstyle, which class I'm diggin' the most, which one I need help with, etc... And pick along those lines. No sense in saying now (with 0 hours) "I'm going <insert class here> all the way!" Cause I may very well find out I don't want to do that.

What I wouldn't mind seeing some opinions on is:

Will you shoot up one class at a time, a one trick pony? Or spread them out and bring 2-3 classes up in alternating fashion, giving more flexability?

Deadeye313
08-29-2006, 12:39 AM
All the pre-order card says is to submit the code by March 31st to get the upgrade. So it could go either way.

the Veteran reservation page says in the last paragraph:

However, claiming your Veteran status after you have already ranked up through normal gameplay will have no effect on your ranking, though the other rewards can still be claimed.

It almost sounds like maybe you can keep the upgrade till later.

Splinter
08-29-2006, 01:14 AM
gonna hit support up first, then Recon then assault then engy.

Donkey
08-29-2006, 01:24 AM
I have never played tribes so I do not know this:

Were teh drones in tribes balanced? Or where they over powered?

Like the person said below you. It took 2 or 3 of them to take you out fast. They were mostly used as defense in clumps around the flag. If they were laid in the middle of the battlefield/fight they would be taken out really fast, and was a waste. If you encountered one, you could easly take out it. The only thing that got you is if the gun got the jump on you, you were in a little trouble.

To answer your quesion, is yes they were very balanced imo. Tribes was a very balanced game too imo.

Willee
08-29-2006, 02:24 AM
Whatever the first thing I can unlock for engy is. :)

cantina_fly
08-29-2006, 02:35 AM
All the pre-order card says is to submit the code by March 31st to get the upgrade. So it could go either way.

the Veteran reservation page says in the last paragraph:

However, claiming your Veteran status after you have already ranked up through normal gameplay will have no effect on your ranking, though the other rewards can still be claimed.

It almost sounds like maybe you can keep the upgrade till later.
Ahah! now that IS news to me. First I've heard of any card or code. That very well could mean that your veteran promotion happens right away, and everyone else will play like gankbusters till March 30th before redeeming thier pre-order rank, but that doesn't sound too plausable. More likely, is once you've ranked up once IG, you lose the ability to apply "any" upgrades. They put the March 31st date in there to account for a shipping delay (and who really believes the Oct. 10th date anyway) and to account for other shipping/handling/account name delays. They have to have a date in their for legal reasons, so why not pick one close to when ET:QW will ship? Because if you're not playing 2142 by then, chances are, you never will. :p

Deadeye313
08-29-2006, 02:42 AM
well, maybe one of the beta testers who frequent these forums can ask the EA people to kindly update the site with instructions/restrictions for the upgrade code.

cloakster
08-29-2006, 02:52 AM
To answer your quesion, is yes they were very balanced imo. Tribes was a very balanced game too imo.

I agree 100%, it was really balance and i dont think ill see another game like it. The turrets were balnaced, they can take a good amount of damage off you with 2 or more but you could easily destroy them. Also they saw you from a pretty far distance so it wasnt that easy to avoid.

First
08-29-2006, 02:52 AM
eh guys if bf2 is any example of the rank up system, If You all remeber u dont get a unlock with ur first promo i would guess same with bf2142 even with so many unlocks...

cantina_fly
08-29-2006, 02:55 AM
well, maybe one of the beta testers who frequent these forums can ask the EA people to kindly update the site with instructions/restrictions for the upgrade code.
Agreed there my friend. We know Devs read this forum. If they could spell out how exactly the whole veteran/preorder scenario works, it would save a lot of time. But then what would all of us "Not in Beta" people talk about? :p

Deadeye313
08-29-2006, 02:55 AM
it clearly says on their veteran registration page that you will upgrade and get an unlock. Heck, it's the least they can do for return customers that went through all this junk we've put up with since BF 2 1.2.

CrysisPwnz
08-29-2006, 03:32 AM
I have never played tribes so I do not know this:

Were teh drones in tribes balanced? Or where they over powered?

When every troop is standard armed with a disc launcher I'd say it was balanced.

The unlocks dont work after you gain a legitamte rank, so you cant save them and wait until you need 30 000 pts, then just use one...

Stryker
08-29-2006, 03:58 AM
They give the pre-order people a free rank up becuase there missing out on 1-2 days of gameplay. Everyone will be ahead of you.

cloakster
08-29-2006, 04:02 AM
They give the pre-order people a free rank up becuase there missing out on 1-2 days of gameplay. Everyone will be ahead of you.

I heard that the pre-orders are going to ship 2 days before they release it in stores. I'm not sure if it is true, but shipping it earlier would make more sense. Also i know this is off topic, but what does the mini-quote button do that is to the right of the regular quote button?

CrysisPwnz
08-29-2006, 04:03 AM
Yeah....

cloakster
08-29-2006, 04:10 AM
Also i was reading through the description of the veteran program and saw this:

Please note that the immediate promotion is compatible with any retail program that grants you an immediate promotion, and you will be promoted twice. It says that you will be promoted twice but with one unlock.

CrysisPwnz
08-29-2006, 04:13 AM
you get an unlock with every promo.

cloakster
08-29-2006, 04:15 AM
I don't understand this anymore if you claim your veteran status after ranking up twice then you will not rank up, but will get an unlock. You will then have 2 unlocks in after ranking up twice. If you claim your veteran status now you will only get 1 unlock afetr ranking up twice.

you get an unlock with every promo.

But it only states that you will recieve one unlock.

CrysisPwnz
08-29-2006, 04:17 AM
Yeah one unlock with the veteran status, and another with the pre order. you do not rank if you claim it after you've already ranked up, and no rank=no unlock.

cloakster
08-29-2006, 04:23 AM
However, claiming your Veteran status after you have already ranked up through normal gameplay will have no effect on your ranking, though the other rewards can still be claimed.

Except it says that you will still get the unlock but not a rank up. Other rewards=Unlocks

CrysisPwnz
08-29-2006, 04:26 AM
Other awards for your Veteran status, like the icon, verbal taunt etc. The point of the whole thing was to get a free rank therefore an unlock. Why would they make it that way, its pretty much the same thing except without the rank, they try to prevent you from getting a real high tier unlock without doing anything, so this doesnt change anything, say your 10,000 points from your active camo, you can get it with no work at all. The only differnce is that you dont get the new rank just the unlock.

cloakster
08-29-2006, 04:34 AM
Ok i get it. Well than the description is missleading

[IS]FallenMorgan
08-29-2006, 04:38 AM
Most likely the Lambert Carbine and the RDX DemoPak

Iconix
08-29-2006, 06:23 AM
Pending on what the maps look like from ground level, I like the recon class. I love sniping in most game bf2 is well useless sometimes but anyways if I see its going to be an awsome sniping map ill get the stabilizer and bigger sniper rifle or carbine or c7. Like someone else said we have to wait to see gameplay style.

Ravenlein
08-29-2006, 04:06 PM
They give the pre-order people a free rank up becuase there missing out on 1-2 days of gameplay. Everyone will be ahead of you.

I get mine on the day of release...

coolbho3000
08-29-2006, 04:17 PM
I'll have a squad leader guy who has those squad leader drones. Sound really useful. :)

wolfi
08-29-2006, 04:25 PM
1. RDX Demolition Pack = C4.
2. Right after that the NetBat Delay
3. Then the Active Camo
4. Lambert Carbine
All of these unlocks are for the recon class.
Means super SpecOp (C4, invisibility, automatic weapon), yay :D

3lliot3vans
08-29-2006, 04:37 PM
1. RDX Demolition Pack = C4.
2. Right after that the NetBat Delay
3. Then the Active Camo
4. Lambert Carbine
All of these unlocks are for the recon class.
Means super SpecOp (C4, invisibility, automatic weapon), yay :D

Amen to that! ;)

xR3LOADx
08-29-2006, 04:49 PM
Carbine is awsome. Definatly chosing Recon next time.

ReaperOfsouls
08-29-2006, 04:58 PM
1. RDX Demolition Pack = C4.
2. Right after that the NetBat Delay
3. Then the Active Camo
4. Lambert Carbine
All of these unlocks are for the recon class.
Means super SpecOp (C4, invisibility, automatic weapon), yay :D

I was going to go that root at first but I found that if you go Heavy assult, (so you get all the combat gizmos not the first aid crap) it is way easy and fun to defend the titan becasue of all teh extra gun goodies you get.

xR3LOADx
08-29-2006, 05:05 PM
I prefer the light assualt gun. Longer rate of fire is good.


But the heavy one is awsome. I have defended the titan by myself many times against loads of people.

ReaperOfsouls
08-29-2006, 05:07 PM
I have not tried the lite yet but you cant beat the rocket and shotgun unlocks when defending.

wolfi
08-29-2006, 05:13 PM
Defending/attacking a titan is always laggy for me so I dont like to go in those things.
But as my favorite BF2 class is assault, I will upgrade my assault right after I got my recon updated ;)

St.Sasquatch
08-29-2006, 05:16 PM
i'll get every singe little possible thing on the recon kit (if not a small one on the support) before i take anything else..

Lugal317
08-29-2006, 05:29 PM
I'm going to dabble around get a few unlocks for each of the kits, but first I'll max out the general player enhancements.

CrysisPwnz
08-29-2006, 06:30 PM
Yeah, the shot guns awesome, too bad I have to kill myself every time I want to leave the Titan, just cant use the same load out :(

I go for the classic sniper, you whipper snappers can do your invisible blowy uppy thing.

3lliot3vans
08-29-2006, 07:41 PM
Yer your right, you need young fresh legs for Spec Ops.
You people over the hill can sit in your rocking chair with your double zoom sniper to help you see better ;)
:laugh:

CrysisPwnz
08-29-2006, 08:17 PM
Lol hey... guess whos covering your *** when you go all rambo on the enemies mech :P

cantina_fly
08-29-2006, 08:59 PM
I go for the classic sniper, you whipper snappers can do your invisible blowy uppy thing.
I actually want to see how feasible the invisa-sniper is going to be. Lay prone somewhere cloaked. Wait for a target to present themself, uncloack, aim, kill, move, repeat.

CrysisPwnz
08-29-2006, 09:10 PM
It wouldnt be necessary if you're good and have good spots, IMO cloaking would be used for the "move" part.

ReaperOfsouls
08-29-2006, 09:56 PM
Ya def the move.

The only time I can seeing useing cloak while sitting still is so you are not spotted by a enemy gunship.

Deadeye313
08-29-2006, 10:16 PM
I think I'll go support/Engy. Since noone else will be, I'll have to bail you all out when you can't get close enough to place charges on the Mechs.

hmm... after thinking about it, unless the mechs have some sort of Infrared vision or detector, C4ing might be the new way to anti-tank (if it's a city map and/or you can get close).

Cmall1113
08-29-2006, 10:50 PM
i'm personally going assault/engy the engy machine gun is pretty sick

Ace101
08-29-2006, 11:20 PM
Ill be going for anti-air missile system.

CrysisPwnz
08-29-2006, 11:22 PM
Yeah AFAIK you cant shoot while going cloaked, and uncloaking... so youm ight actually miss a shot if you wait cloaked.

Deadeye313
08-29-2006, 11:29 PM
my concern with the cloaking device is: will half the server be using it at the same time at the beginning of the round? imagine a map like karkand only you can only see like 5 people running out of the USMC spawn area.

Willee
08-29-2006, 11:54 PM
my concern with the cloaking device is: will half the server be using it at the same time at the beginning of the round? imagine a map like karkand only you can only see like 5 people running out of the USMC spawn area.

People would be getting slaughtered by grenades anyway, so it doesn't matter.

cantina_fly
08-29-2006, 11:59 PM
Ya def the move.

The only time I can seeing useing cloak while sitting still is so you are not spotted by a enemy gunship.
Would the cloak help against a gunship? We all know the BF2 engine doesn't show grass when you're flying above, but wouldn't the pilot still see you shadow on the ground under you?

Or will this punish all those people who play with shadows on low for purely competitive reasons. :laugh:

Dangerdog
08-30-2006, 01:10 AM
well, maybe one of the beta testers who frequent these forums can ask the EA people to kindly update the site with instructions/restrictions for the upgrade code.

:laugh: Beta testers talking to EA people, or even better yet EA people talking to beta testers :rofl:

CrysisPwnz
08-30-2006, 01:38 AM
Heh, BF2142 for me is a must play on high game, its too pretty. Imo theres an issue with cloaking. First off it can reduce your visibilty giving you the advantage. But it might actually increase it when people just see a running shadow. People tend to either look, or not look at all... Im the one to look and immediately see a shadow walking up behind me lol. Guess you gotta hide behind a shadow of a building

Sir. Shpox
08-30-2006, 07:39 AM
Anything Support. :D

Alaz
08-30-2006, 08:34 AM
That's True, i think i'll get something for Recon, Either the carbine or C-7

Omg, i just thought now, how the heck will you blow titans up at the very start of the game when no one has c-7!?!?!?!

Use the try a new unlock thing that lets you get a temp unlock for that round by following orders, simple.

Vundu
08-30-2006, 08:58 AM
Gonna get my Recon unlocks first.

CrysisPwnz
08-30-2006, 06:38 PM
Or your whole team could go support and shoot at it...

Lugal317
08-30-2006, 07:16 PM
:laugh: Beta testers talking to EA people, or even better yet EA people talking to beta testers :rofl:

I'm active on the beta testing forums and EA/DICE don't really go in there to post replies. If they are listening at all I'm sure they have 5 guys that are writing down the important things and going into the game, testing them, reproducing them properly and writing up proper bug reports. They aren't talking to us though...

cloakster
08-30-2006, 11:37 PM
If they are listening at all I'm sure they have 5 guys that are writing down the important things and going into the game, testing them, reproducing them properly and writing up proper bug reports. They aren't talking to us though...

Oh... if only that were true.

Zorgoth
08-31-2006, 06:47 PM
well, maybe one of the beta testers who frequent these forums can ask the EA people to kindly update the site with instructions/restrictions for the upgrade code.

LOL!!!!!!!

Beta testers know why this is funny.


As for unlocks I am not sure yet, I have been playing around with them and can't decide what tree fits my play style.

«PS» Funk3h
08-31-2006, 06:53 PM
Dunno, ill have to have a look at the wepons.

Kurt
09-01-2006, 01:52 PM
I will use it right off the bat. I do not think I will benifit from saving it for later because no matter what you are still two (or one) unlock closer to the max you can get.

I'm not sure about that one. Correct me if I'm wrong but we dont know what the full unlock "tree" is. So, there may be a really cracking unlock only available if you've unlocked x, y and z first. So, if you unlock a and b you'll then realise you actually need 4 more unlocks to get x, y, z and your preferred unlock. You may not know which unlocks you want until you've played for a while and know what class(es) you're going to settle on and by then it might be a real pain to have to rank up 4 times to get what you want.

[NRN]tommygunner311
09-01-2006, 02:58 PM
i will probably get something with the recon class... probably the carbine

tomhead76
09-01-2006, 03:33 PM
I was able to try a field upgrade last night and I chose the active camo. Eventually the camo ran out but I didnt see any meter that tells me how much I have left. Is there a meter that I dont know about? I think you should stay invisible as long as you hold the button.

Striker
09-01-2006, 05:46 PM
Is there a post/ link that shows the different unlocks and paths??
I see all the possible unlock weapons here:
http://www.totalbf2142.com/page.php?do=weapons

Just wondering how it plays out- Im guessing similar to BF2 (Make SGT, get 2 unlock weapons, need to unlock weapon 1 to get to weapon#2, etc)

Dumbasspunk
09-02-2006, 01:18 AM
HEY EA said over 100 unlocks/upgrades....with 1000's of combinations....do u see that on
http://www.totalbf2142.com/page.php?do=weapons
i sure as hell dont...i see a few "highlights" ...imo the specops cabine looks like a sweet unlock...but active cammo..a must have

Cicchetti
09-02-2006, 01:57 AM
I will be getting my Voss L-AR and my lambert back as of now i have all recon all assault and all the abilities. I think i will leave out the sniper part of recon and upgrade my support alittle. I must have the abilities back though lol

xR3LOADx
09-02-2006, 11:26 AM
Field upgrades are too easy to get when you have a reasonable squad. I managed to get 10 in 2 games lol.

tukey21
09-02-2006, 02:15 PM
go with all the heavy srupport unlocks, then go with all the squad unlocks, that will make you a one man army:)

Willee
09-03-2006, 01:19 AM
A question about field unlocks: Can you unlock anything, or just the next thing up in the tree? I've only been able to get one field upgrade and the server died before I died.

ReaperOfsouls
09-03-2006, 02:03 AM
I'm not sure about that one. Correct me if I'm wrong but we dont know what the full unlock "tree" is. So, there may be a really cracking unlock only available if you've unlocked x, y and z first. So, if you unlock a and b you'll then realise you actually need 4 more unlocks to get x, y, z and your preferred unlock. You may not know which unlocks you want until you've played for a while and know what class(es) you're going to settle on and by then it might be a real pain to have to rank up 4 times to get what you want.

I have played the BETA so I cannot elaborate on the unlock system but all I can say is that either way it really wont matter.

If you use them up front, on later in the game it really wont make a difference.

silky_z
09-03-2006, 03:01 AM
does anyone know where all the unlocks can be viewed?

i'll save one though and use the other to get the Koenig H-AVR
ya anti-tank gun!

ReaperOfsouls
09-03-2006, 03:12 AM
When you get the game it will have everything you need need in the BFHQ.

For example, as they stated in a article that came out around E3 you can now use your BFHQ to see what it takes to get each award and how much longer you got until you acheive it.

Lavadisk
09-03-2006, 06:58 AM
the way i see it is that im going for mainly COMBAT because thats the way i play games, and imo all the other medics are pretty stupid.

so im going to get the assult with the BAUR heavy assult riffle or im going to be a lot more random and away from everyone else and get the Support with the shotgun! lol, cant wait to see if that gun is any different from the shottes from bf2.

in any matter im going to try and stay from unlocks and learn the default weapons, meybe get the abuilities instead of unlocks so i wont handycap myself like i did when i played karkand mainly at the start of bf2. (im totally ABK now, anything but karkand, and have been for a while)

5TAK3D
09-03-2006, 10:56 AM
I actually want to see how feasible the invisa-sniper is going to be. Lay prone somewhere cloaked. Wait for a target to present themself, uncloack, aim, kill, move, repeat.
Doesn't matter how well you hide. I've barely ever relied on visuals to get snipers for days. Decent set of surround speakers + x-fi audio. Instantly know where a sniper is. The end.

bobonius
09-04-2006, 12:55 AM
I preordered from EB a while ago, then picked up a preorder box from BB for the new gun. I went online to activate the BB promotion, and my code was rejected. On a whim I tried it under the EB activation section and it worked. Now the code is listed as used or invalid in the BB section whereas before it just didn't work. Anyone else try to activate a BB preorder code?

Zandog
09-04-2006, 01:04 AM
I preordered from EB a while ago, then picked up a preorder box from BB for the new gun. I went online to activate the BB promotion, and my code was rejected. On a whim I tried it under the EB activation section and it worked. Now the code is listed as used or invalid in the BB section whereas before it just didn't work. Anyone else try to activate a BB preorder code?

Yes, pre-ordered through BestBuy. BestBuy has no promo code. WHen I asked them why I wasn't given a promo code to unlock. They told me to talk to EA, give them my purchase order number.... No response from EA yet. I felt alil jipped but maybe it's just my own experience. Hey, atleast I'll get that dogtag USB flash drive.... right?....... .......hello?

bobonius
09-04-2006, 01:10 AM
I got the actual preorder box shown in the pictures, with the tags and a slip of paper with the code on it. If you didn't get a code yet, your probably won't... sounds like a rip-off. Let me know what EA tells you, just the same.

Sethonan
09-04-2006, 01:20 AM
Heh, BF2142 for me is a must play on high game, its too pretty. Imo theres an issue with cloaking. First off it can reduce your visibilty giving you the advantage. But it might actually increase it when people just see a running shadow. People tend to either look, or not look at all... Im the one to look and immediately see a shadow walking up behind me lol. Guess you gotta hide behind a shadow of a building
You can't look for shadows anyways, so it's a moot point; I think I can't really tell you how the cloaking works, but at close range it's easily spotted... think Metal Gear Solid.

Sethonan
09-04-2006, 01:28 AM
I can only tell you that you don't unlock guns the same way you unlock in BF2.

ReaperOfsouls
09-04-2006, 01:39 AM
Its already been said that there is a tech tree and I can not say anything further either.