Dynamic in-game advertising to come to Battlefield 2142 [Archive]

nutcrackr

08-31-2006, 01:58 PM

Dynamic in-game advertising to come to Battlefield 2142
EA has signed an agreement with IGA to bring in-game dynamic advertising to selected titles in a move to provide cross platform in-game ad solutions for global advertisers. The initial title to incorporate dynamic advertising will be Battlefield 2142 when it launches in October.

Through the agreement, fans of the franchise will see new, realistic brand presence integrated into contextually relevant game environments. Digital Illusions is entitled to a share of all the revenues generated from the advertising featured in Battlefield 2142.
http://global.dice.se/news.aspx?article=6a4b5c28-d0fc-4326-bb2f-0f0d0fbd5ddc

3lliot3vans

08-31-2006, 02:00 PM

Oh cool, i've seen in some games advertisments for Red Bull, Nokia. Aslong as it doesn't affect game play, for example med packs with the number for the red cross donation line on it :laugh:

Serenity

08-31-2006, 02:13 PM

Oh cool, i've seen in some games advertisments for Red Bull, Nokia. Aslong as it doesn't affect game play, for example med packs with the number for the red cross donation line on it :laugh:

haha.

Raven

08-31-2006, 02:17 PM

Ok they can waste their money all i still wont buy the **** they advertise lol

then you get like " Enemy presence detected in core, Please buy Pepsi"

SQUiB

08-31-2006, 02:28 PM

That's bad news. At best it won't be very intusive and won't make much difference. At worst it will be inapropriate and detract for the immersion on the game. Hopefully it's not too bad.

Miniman

08-31-2006, 02:32 PM

planetside had billboards, but they never really took off.

how much do you think it would cost to have "Miniman pwnz" skin on the Titans?

people need to know!:P

and some cilit bang would be great on titan invaders. just look at this noob

coolbho3000

08-31-2006, 02:37 PM

This is just another bad thing, I don't want bilboards with advertising in 2142.

If they do this then I expect them to price the game at $40. If they don't, well...

Vundu

08-31-2006, 02:46 PM

Ingame advertising, a sad face of things to come.

3lliot3vans

08-31-2006, 02:49 PM

True, i don't really take notice of any sort of advertisements whether it be on TV or on posters. If it's funny i'll remember it. Comedy is the way to my mind, and wallet ;) lol

Alaz

08-31-2006, 02:51 PM

I think you're all overreacting to this, advertising is about getting you happy about something, not making you angry. Trust me companies have pleanty of over paid advisors to tell them what will anger gamers or be fine with them.

They know all too well or at least they should that this could backfire if it really goes down the wrong path and many people complain, so i'm going to assume just because they want money that they'll be at least half smart about it and not go over the top with it, i'd bet it wont detract from gameplay at all.

Elinombrable

08-31-2006, 02:54 PM

i dont matter...probably we wont see them very often...we will be looking at the enemy

Vundu

08-31-2006, 02:56 PM

3lliot3vans

08-31-2006, 02:59 PM

Whilst drinking the Pepsi can that is posted on the wall next to you :D
Speaking of advertisment/Companies/Fat Cats. Did anyone know that Pepsi makes more money that Coke Cola? I didn't know that it was on a programme last night, Pepsi also own Tropicarno whilst Coke Cola tried to keep up and made Minute Maid (also fruit juice) which failed and tastes like p*ss :laugh:

Alaz

08-31-2006, 03:02 PM

How blatent it is has nothing to do with it for me, its the fact its in there. The devs will not like having parts of thier baby sold to the highest bidder, only the accountants at EA will like it.

Well disliking it for the reason its in their alone isn't really a good enough reason now is it, certainly not one warrenting its removal. Now if its really as bad as you think and everyone hates it and complains about it, it'll be causing so much negitive attention they'll tone it down/remove it. Win win situation from where i see it.

Spork

08-31-2006, 03:07 PM

You team Killed Noobinator. This Message was brought to you by White Lady Funerals.

Soon enough guns will be replaced by Wall Cap Guns (Only Available at Wallmart) and Hand grenades with Target Water Balloons (Only available at Target).

And you will have to walk to Wallmart and Target to get your waterballoons and cap guns. Also if you get shot in the head and get bloodstains. You will have t o goto Gucci to get your latest designer war gear.

"Canteen out of water? NO Problemo!, For the one time charge of $9.99 you can get a Puratap Canteen, Which never runs out! But ontop of that, if you pay an extra $59.99 you can get an annoying puratap salesman that runs around behind you annoying the crap out of your enemies!"

This is the second game to have ingame advertising that I know of, Toca Race Driver 3 has it aswell, every now and then on the same track the advertisements will have changed.

Cheers :)

Spork

08-31-2006, 03:10 PM

Well disliking it for the reason its in their alone isn't really a good enough reason now is it, certainly not one warrenting its removal. Now if its really as bad as you think and everyone hates it and complains about it, it'll be causing so much negitive attention they'll tone it down/remove it. Win win situation from where i see it.

We saw a perfect example of this with every good feature in BF2..

You like the J-10? Some noob complaiend about it last night and nerfed it (so much so that there are no more jets in BF2142)

You liked the PKM? Well its now the PKU -Phu King USELESS

What else got obliterated in Bf2? WEll apart from the whole game.. Nothing.

Cheers :)

Vundu

08-31-2006, 03:10 PM

Well disliking it for the reason its in their alone isn't really a good enough reason now is it, certainly not one warrenting its removal. Now if its really as bad as you think and everyone hates it and complains about it, it'll be causing so much negitive attention they'll tone it down/remove it. Win win situation from where i see it.

Its like buying a DVD which has adverts (not relating to movies) at the start. It does not matter but your paying for the movie so why should you have to have ads in it.

Alaz

08-31-2006, 03:47 PM

We saw a perfect example of this with every good feature in BF2..

You like the J-10? Some noob complaiend about it last night and nerfed it (so much so that there are no more jets in BF2142)

You liked the PKM? Well its now the PKU -Phu King USELESS

What else got obliterated in Bf2? WEll apart from the whole game.. Nothing.

Cheers :)

Game balance is key to fun gameplay, if they can't balance it so, they opted for the easy choice and removed planes... but its better that way then having J-10's in 2142 which nobody can argue with are over powered compared to an F35.

@ Vundu, Yeah i know what you mean but you're example isn't quite accurate because those adverts are forced at you and have to skip ahead of them or watch them, thats forced advertisement. I'm guessing you can go your entire BF2142 career without reading a single ad if you wanted to, thats what this "should" be all about, if it is indeed like you said then its not good and not what i had in mind. However if its an ad on a billboard that you don't even need to look at, what do you care? so long as it doesn't interfere with gameplay.

ReaperOfsouls

08-31-2006, 03:50 PM

As long as its not overdone I think its kinda cool and do not mind it.

If its like that EA boxing game where everywhere you turn theres and add then I wont like it.

Alaz

08-31-2006, 03:56 PM

I heard of one game that had an advert for a car on a billboard that you could actually buy in game by clicking on the billboard... i mean, i think it was a singleplayer game so it wasn't so bad but... thats just too far imo.

ReaperOfsouls

08-31-2006, 04:06 PM

Ya taht is kinda taking it far but o well lol.

Dorest0rm

08-31-2006, 04:08 PM

servers shud be able to modify atleast 1 or 2 advertisements so they cud advertise stuff that the server offers like buy a server pc and get a teamspeak server for free that wud be cool :D

JustAnotherGrunt

08-31-2006, 04:10 PM

So here we are in the year 2142, and someone's advertising a...Gameboy, which should be about 100+ years out of date. But the signs are so big, you cant help notice it.

Atmosphere killer, anyone?

Well, I suppose that went out the window when everyone in the beta discovered that the best way to avoid bullets was to act like Bugs Bunny.

Lugal317

08-31-2006, 04:17 PM

My hover tank has a windshield sticker that says "Powered by Honda"

PatrioticWhale51

08-31-2006, 04:27 PM

When you die you should get a Life Insurance ad.

"Had you been with Green Summer Life Insurance your family would instantly be recieving $50,000 as a result of that slug lodging in your jugular. Interested? Call now!"

Tom|Nbk

08-31-2006, 04:28 PM

Ingame advertising, a sad face of things to come.

pretty true to be honest, i mean why are we paying for this, also only EA could try and sell advertising as cool and dynamic :laugh: , ahh well

Kurt

08-31-2006, 04:32 PM

EA. A simple lesson in economics.

You make a good game. Lots of people but it. They tell their friends and their friends buy it. Simple and everyone's happy.

However, you choose to take the following approach..

1) Distribute the beta through Fileplanet - make money off that.
2) Sell custom weapon skins and sounds to e-tailors.
3) Sell rank-ups to to e-tailors.
4) Introduce in-game advertising.

I'm not sure I've ever seen such a blatent attempt to scrape every last cent out of us and out of a frankly ailing franchise and I'm getting more and more pessimistic about how 2142 is going to turn out.

People say that we shouldn't really be bothered. Well, fine if you're not. However, it annoys me that you are prepared to let your developers spend time developing custom skins and developing a way to display in-game advertising AND a way to enter keys to get rank-ups purely for YOU when they should be spending every moment of their time making BF2142 a damn fine game for US.

The Damned

08-31-2006, 04:34 PM

a advert for hooters would be good

Donkey

08-31-2006, 04:38 PM

Planetside did this along time ago, it wasn't that bad:)

Sir Robin

08-31-2006, 04:44 PM

Well we are screwed, no doubt about it. You guys seem to think this is just advertising on the billboards? Wait till you get to watch a thirty second Mastercard, Micro$oft, or *shudder* Fanta advert shoved down your throat while waiting for the next map to load. Which coincidentally takes exactly thirty seconds.:confused: Well thirty seconds until some new software now makes it sixty seconds. Now, coincidentally, you get to watch two commercials.

We could also have sponsored maps like stadiums. Wouldn't you love to brag about how well you did last round on McDonald Verdun or Aetna Gibraltar?

We have not even gone into the the "You have been critically wounded, Aflac," yet.

I guess it would not be so aggrivating if the game was actually cheaper because of the advertising dollars. However, we won't see it, the excuse I always hear is that this will keep the product from getting more expensive which it ends up getting anyway.

Even worse this opens up the developers to advertiser control. Don't think it will happen? The threat of losing advertiser dollars started a very popular television show's (Married with Children) death.

What happens when Burger King's Market Research department decides they want to monitor your activities ingame and tells EA to give it up or include some sort of spyware/adware with the game? Do you really think EA is going to take the moral high road?

Like some programs already out there if you disable the spyware/adware the game no longer works. How long till some bored college/high school kid, with to much time on their hands and a computer, figures out how to use that research, passwords, logins, etc... against you after you have already paid over $50.00 for the game and cannot do a damn thing about it because of the EULA?

Unfortunately we are screwed because a game as popular as this will make a profit for EA. BF2 was simply too successful for EA to worry about not making a profit off of BF2142. Throw advertising dollars on top of that and its simply to much money for any capitalist to ignore.

Sorry for all the doom and gloom but as any getting older chap who likes to pay attention to the world around me I have seen things changing and saddly its getting awfully predictable.

Splinter

08-31-2006, 04:46 PM

as long as it's not "in your face" while playing or pop ups that you have to close. I dont see any real problem.
Swat 4 did it ok with the posters and suff.

Dangerdog

08-31-2006, 05:09 PM

Okay, if they're going to make money off of advertising then lower the price of the GAME!!!

This is complete B.S., I plan on IP blocking their ads.

Sir Robin

08-31-2006, 05:16 PM

Okay, if they're going to make money off of advertising then lower the price of the GAME!!!

This is complete B.S., I plan on IP blocking their ads.

Good idea:D

If it works don't forget to share how you did it.

ReaperOfsouls

08-31-2006, 05:20 PM

Okay, if they're going to make money off of advertising then lower the price of the GAME!!!

This is complete B.S., I plan on IP blocking their ads.

I agree unless they are losing money on the game which most times they are not.

Dangerdog

08-31-2006, 05:25 PM

You have to use a packet sniffer to decode the server IP used for the in game ads and then block it in your hosts file, in game you'll end up with the placeholder graphics used on some of the buildings and not the ad.

That's the way it worked for Swat 4 anyway.

These services are more evasive than just a dumb graphic placed on a wall; some even track how long a user looked at an ad etc. I don’t care if Coke or Pepsi wants to subsidize my entertainment but having to pay $50 + tax only to have what amounts to “pop ups” in the game is just irritating to say the least.

SlimShady17

08-31-2006, 05:27 PM

Planetside did this along time ago, it wasn't that bad:)

Yeah except for the US Air force ad that had a guy talking and a really loud jet taking off. It was so bad, you'd be on teamspeak with you're outfit and the leaders start anouncing our plans and then that billboard would start talking over them. :laugh:

Dangerdog

08-31-2006, 06:54 PM

Welcome to BillboardField 2142! Where we place an in your face advertisment every five feet!

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7046/image00006cc1.jpg

Yoosty

08-31-2006, 06:55 PM

For gamers, it means once-static billboards or posters in the game worlds might instead promote an upcoming film one day and a brand of soft drink the next.

If the Ads are static I see no problem with them, but if they will be changing them daily. Could that not cause some game play errors or even lag. Also who will be placing the Ads' into the game? Dice? EA? Or maybe someone from the Ad company? Think they better Beta test this feature also.

Chip Lange, EA's vice president of online commerce, said it was important that the ads don't disrupt a player's experience.

Dangerdog

08-31-2006, 07:22 PM

Just look at that picture I posted, how does that NOT disrupt the gameplay experience? You can’t even fire a tank shell through all that crap.

This is what you’re going to see spammed in the game, they’re not going to take the time and pay some graphic artist to design an ad for a video game.

http://ourhouse100.com/001images/best-buy.gif

http://www.junkfoodblog.com/uploaded_images/mountain-dew-mdx-766355.jpg

http://newcomersandvisitorsguide.com/images/Dominos_Pizza.jpg

http://www.horror-movies.ca/gallery/_files/photogallery/snakes_on_a_plane.jpg

You think they care about your gaming "experience?"

cantina_fly

08-31-2006, 07:32 PM

I was waiting for someone to mention IP blocking. What would be really funny is someone reverse engineering the ad server communication and then setup there own server (kind of like what ABR did for stats.)

BIFF EXPLODER

08-31-2006, 08:23 PM

EAT AT MCDONALDS

Now with every Happy Meal you get a
free dog tag + rocket louncher

(we know whats best for the kids)

CrysisPwnz

08-31-2006, 08:25 PM

It'd be funny going through a war torn city and seeing a perfectly, untouched huge M... and then a Mcdonalds store behind it, or like when your walking through the street guns blazing you see those huge clown foot prints like in walmarts that lead to mcdonalds rofl.

Sir Robin

08-31-2006, 08:29 PM

Well now the shape of those civilian vehicles makes sense. What do you want to bet each is a FedEx or Domino's delivery truck?

LOL, the Beta forums are having some serious problems posting and displaying right for me now. Hmmm... maybe they upset some people?

Dangerdog

08-31-2006, 08:41 PM

Actually it seems the sheep are pretty passive over this new invasion of corporate greed, EA just happens to be in a good position to force this on players, there’s no competition sadly, and who’s to say that Activision doesn’t end up following suit with Quake Wars? or EPIC games with UT2007?

RedDot

08-31-2006, 09:39 PM

Imagine:

You spot a tank

You search for protection

You see an advertisment with 'Durex'

jb1-vicious

08-31-2006, 09:43 PM

Imagine:

You spot a tank

You search for protection

You see an advertisment with 'Durex'

lol
:laugh:
Im not fussed about the advertising, as long as they dont make it too obvious...

Dangerdog

08-31-2006, 11:14 PM

THERE'S 21 BILLBOARDS in the beta2 build! Plus there's 4 large shipping containers that look like they also have placeholder graphics ready to be swapped out.

It'll be obvious alright, count on it.

CrysisPwnz

08-31-2006, 11:21 PM

...Crap. That's lame... who the fack cares about Coca Cola in the middle of a powerplant, or military camp..

ReaperOfsouls

08-31-2006, 11:23 PM

EAT AT MCDONALDS

Now with every Happy Meal you get a
free dog tag + rocket louncher

(we know whats best for the kids)

Lol! Nicly done.

All you guys are crazy with this stuff, all the examples. Finally something to laugh at.

jb1-vicious

08-31-2006, 11:24 PM

...Crap. That's lame... who the fack cares about Coca Cola in the middle of a powerplant, or military camp..

yeh it sounds way over the top, nothing like i expected. anyway, hopefully ill see it for myself, if i ever get to the front of this bloody queue!

CrysisPwnz

08-31-2006, 11:28 PM

It'd make sense if any of the maps were actually in the suburbs or something...

Alaz

08-31-2006, 11:29 PM

It'd make sense if any of the maps were actually in the suburbs or something...

Perhaps it'll get worse in the suburb maps >.<

CrysisPwnz

08-31-2006, 11:33 PM

But there are none?!

Lugal317

08-31-2006, 11:37 PM

But there are none?!

Naw actually I got the sub and already have almost 80gigs of other downloads... lol this is getting out of hand...

No suburb maps???

ReaperOfsouls

08-31-2006, 11:39 PM

But there are none?!

There are at least two I think.

Berlin and that africa one.

The africa one looks more city than suburb but that berlin one has courtyards and woods in it so that is more of a sub burb one.

Its either berlin or some other map I cannot rember the name.

CrysisPwnz

08-31-2006, 11:45 PM

Yeah, the Berlin one I forgot, theres that other one with a bunch of white blocks on the map...

Stryker

09-01-2006, 12:13 AM

Can anyone say Swat 4? lol

Richard012345

09-01-2006, 12:18 AM

Yeah, I just read that whole article on GameSpot/GameFAQs while doing my daily trolling of their boards.

Myahon

09-01-2006, 12:18 AM

I just wanna see what the coke machines look like in 2142. Ad.s in games like 1080 and Shenmue were okay and added to the game, but in Oddworld they were retarded and sucked from the gameplay experience.

TRD Supra

09-01-2006, 12:20 AM

well it is real. there are billboards in life, so why not make it kinda real.

CrysisPwnz

09-01-2006, 12:21 AM

Not in miltary bases...

Lugal317

09-01-2006, 12:25 AM

well it is real. there are billboards in life, so why not make it kinda real.

If you're going to make it 'kinda real' make it so we can blow the billboards up, spray paint on them, and pee on them.

Stryker

09-01-2006, 12:26 AM

Like I said they might go to far and do something like Swat 4 did it where you have truth signs telling you not to smoke, and wear protection signs. This game appeals to the younglins, thus company's will reach out and advertise with them in mind.

Edit: Stupid would be IGN.com signs, or Gamespy. That would piss me off.
Edit2: I want easter egg signs :(

CrysisPwnz

09-01-2006, 12:28 AM

Like I said they might go to far and do something like Swat 4 did it where you have truth signs telling you not to smoke, and wear protection signs. This game appeals to the younglins, thus company's will reach out and advertise with them in mind.

Thats lame. For a lack of a better word.

1st off kids, then stupid advertises... NOOOO.

Stryker

09-01-2006, 12:55 AM

EA is doing this because of the lack of support from the community. Alot of BF2 players refuse to buy the game and thats losing them alot of money causing them to do this for the extra money.

TRD Supra

09-01-2006, 12:58 AM

If you're going to make it 'kinda real' make it so we can blow the billboards up, spray paint on them, and pee on them.

ROFL. The billboards do make the map not look so blah and bland.

CrysisPwnz

09-01-2006, 01:16 AM

Uuhhh So since when are BF2 players obligated to buy BF2142...

Fabol

09-01-2006, 02:16 AM

Pop-ups that say "Tired of the lag? Get a MYIS server today!" when I'm lagging out.

Deadeye313

09-01-2006, 02:52 AM

EA is doing this because of the lack of support from the community. Alot of BF2 players refuse to buy the game and thats losing them alot of money causing them to do this for the extra money.

Does that mean with tens of thousands of downloads for just the beta they'll take out the ads? I don't think so.

Though I wouldn't mind seeing a bombed out mcdonalds or a pepsi or coke vending machine that one can knock over.

rowdyman

09-01-2006, 06:08 AM

Meh; whatever. It's been done in the movies for years. Any time (generic action movie hero) gets thirsty after kicking the $h!t out of the bad guys he reaches for a Coke. It's not too overt, but we still him sitting at a table, Coke in hand, enjoying it. Or how many random traffic scenes have a UPS or Fed-Ex truck placed in the shot? As long as it is on this level it won't ruin my enjoyment or detract from the level of immersion; in fact it would add an extra level of realism, mimicking a world in which we are bombarded by ads.

TheGuyWhoShotU

09-01-2006, 06:35 AM

Sir. SashDaMan

09-01-2006, 11:24 AM

Lag anyone?

This will cause problems but could also be used as a hot prospect for mods to generate a lil cash by having their own adverts in there.
Also. I'm sure those adverts can be changed with a little coding here and there server side. But this may breach EA R&Rs.

StalkerZERO

09-01-2006, 05:38 PM

http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/9391/21ba8.jpg
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/2849/carlit8.jpg
http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/4421/eatatjoeshk5.jpg
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/314/footgearya0.jpg
http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/6098/generalnj5.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/1319/newhelmspx1.jpg

Dude you guys are crazy. Ads in game will be hella sick, there should be in game pop-ups when you die TOO!!!!! And when you click on enough pop-ups you get a rank up! This another really cool feature for Battlefield! Thanks EA and Dice, for another award winning formula!

Pop-up ads......IN FRIGGIN GAME??????? :mad:
Whats your in game name man?? I sware to God if I ever even SEE you in a server list I will enter that game your in walk up to you and shoot you freakin dead no questions asked no matter if we're on the same team or not. And thats a promise! :mad:

Dangerdog

09-01-2006, 06:51 PM

Consultant01

09-01-2006, 07:06 PM

Ingame advertising, a sad face of things to come.I agree... next thing you know they'll interupt my television watching to try and sell me products.

What has the world come to?

Sheeple Police

09-01-2006, 07:06 PM

EA is doing this because of the lack of support from the community. Alot of BF2 players refuse to buy the game and thats losing them alot of money causing them to do this for the extra money.

I am sorry, I have to comment on this.

BF's players are not a money spigot. They do not have to jump and buy whatever EA shovels out at them. For you to somehow insinuate that it is the community's fault for anything is naive at best. EA's provides a service to its customers. If the customers do not think they are doing a good job, guess what. THEY MOVE ON.

If they were keeping their customers happy, then they would not be endagering their money flow. Putting ad's in game is EA saying "We know that they don't want it, but they will still buy it. They are sheep."

Don't be a sheep. If you do not want ads in any future games do not buy any that have them in it. Your comment above is enabling them to think that we are all sheep.

Again, if EA makes a good product that its customers want it will not have to worry about squeezing more money out of a shrinking player base.

Sheeple Police

09-01-2006, 07:09 PM

I agree... next thing you know they'll interupt my television watching to try and sell me products.

What has the world come to?

That is a completely different business model and you know it is. Some people play games because it has no ads in it.

fullgrip.merc

09-01-2006, 07:51 PM

I also think it's plain greed, though the community is powerfull enough to put an end to this, imagine tenths of videos been sent over e-mail that show brand billboards been shot by tanks or packs of soldiers with machine guns... hum destructible fedex trucks would make realy good cinema... :evil:

andersjv

09-01-2006, 07:57 PM

well, then the game should be free of charge or at a severly reduced price.

fullgrip.merc

09-01-2006, 08:13 PM

well, then the game should be free of charge or at a severly reduced price.

I woudn't mind seen a Coke animation in load screens or in-game non-intrusive drink ads if it were to make the game FREE.

So EA guys, do you wanna conquer the gamer world and build yourself an army of fanatic fans wearing your t-shirts and drinking coke? Think about that... :D

Wheelman56

09-01-2006, 09:08 PM

I wouldn't have a problem with the ads if the billboards for them weren't huge, at eye level, and littered all over the map. Anyone who has the 2nd beta build will know what I'm talking about. 20+ billboards in the map, and I was able to get 5 in the same shot.

StalkerZERO

09-01-2006, 10:00 PM

Pop-up ads......IN FRIGGIN GAME??????? :mad:
Whats your in game name man?? I sware to God if I ever even SEE you in a server list I will enter that game your in walk up to you and shoot you freakin dead no questions asked no matter if we're on the same team or not. And thats a promise! :mad:

It is VERY hard to tell if some of these guys are kidding or not. Obviously EA is N O T kidding when it comes to this stuff and they would actually put in pop-up ads if they could.
This is scary stuff that should be taken seriously. I for one am AGAINST ads in games. And thats especially if its something that I find objectionable. A billboard or two can be tolerated but what if they make it so it can't be ignored?
In need for speed they are going to have dynamic billboards. Ok great. But how are they going to implement unobtrusive advertising in bf2142 where the game is about a futuristic war?? What.....torn billboards on half destroyed buildings or something?
How about making sure the damn game works before signing deals about friggin advertising? :mad:

StalkerZERO

09-01-2006, 10:06 PM

Relax Stalker, I’m pretty sure that was meant to be sarcastic in nature, look at the pictures posted accompanying the text.

At any rate, even if you don’t care or feel it’s a none issue – you’re really not the important part of the equation, it’s the clans who pay for the ranked servers – if it pisses them off then you just lost a good number of servers to play on.

So what is that...some kind of threat or something? So you have bunches of clans out there that are actually corporate drones or something? So your saying if I don't "get with the program" I'm going to be banned from playing? Is that it?

If ANYTHING pisses them off I think it would be that they are going to have to PAY for the privilege of having advertising banners FLASH before them while they try to survive the onslaught of noobs using exploits against them on the more than likely bug filled game!

If I do get "blacklisted" then it would be no skin off my nose I can tell ya that from now!

TheGuyWhoShotU

09-01-2006, 10:23 PM

It is VERY hard to tell if some of these guys are kidding or not. Obviously EA is N O T kidding when it comes to this stuff and they would actually put in pop-up ads if they could.
This is scary stuff that should be taken seriously. I for one am AGAINST ads in games. And thats especially if its something that I find objectionable. A billboard or two can be tolerated but what if they make it so it can't be ignored?
In need for speed they are going to have dynamic billboards. Ok great. But how are they going to implement unobtrusive advertising in bf2142 where the game is about a futuristic war?? What.....torn billboards on half destroyed buildings or something?
How about making sure the damn game works before signing deals about friggin advertising? :mad:
I was just kidding around, I photoshoped those ads, I too think billboards in the game sucks a**

StalkerZERO

09-01-2006, 10:29 PM

I agree... next thing you know they'll interupt my television watching to try and sell me products.

What has the world come to?

OK, that was a retarded comeback. Your sitting on ya couch dude!!!! :rolleyes:
You have the option of turning the freakin channel or get in a quick power nap till the commercial is over.

Imagine if you will however,

that instead your flying a dropship full of peeps flying at mach 30 trying to outrun the tv missile that some evil noob fired at you. Ya do a nose dive in a last ditch attempt to evade but out of NO WHERE a freakin tv commercial for friggin CAT CHOW MEOW MIX scrolls right across your windshield! It is very nice that the devs made it so it looks soooo seemlessly integrated in the game that it looks like a high tech read out on the windscreen.
Too bad though THAT IT BLOCKS YA ABILITY TO SEE!!!!! At this point you and your buds are screamin bloody murder as some idiot (who can't get a real job) in a freakin cat suit is dancing like an imbecile on the windshield!!!
Of course, I'm sure the devs won't make such advertisements too long because you are ina game. But as the commercial ends and you think the trouble is over........*high pitched girlie screams* the view clears up and you see the ground rusing for you.
*BOOM*

Ya, I just can't wait for the future of advertising in games. I'm sorry, but your bit of sarcasm bout the tv commercials is just not working for me. :rolleyes:

Wheelman56

09-01-2006, 10:43 PM

There should be a way to remove the ads. The same service is used for SWAT 4 and can be easily blocked.

In order to prevent this 'functionality', the server can be prevented from being contacted by placing the following lines in either /etc/hosts on UNIX, or %WINDIR%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts on Windows.

127.0.0.1 madserver.net
127.0.0.1 ad.madserver.net
127.0.0.1 imp.madserver.net
127.0.0.1 media.madserver.net

You can read more about the Massive advertising system and how it effected SWAT 4 here:

http://nationalcheeseemporium.org/

Deadeye313

09-01-2006, 11:05 PM

ya know, I really would not mind seeing a GE or boeing symbol on a fighter. GE and Boeing make the real life stuff. I think it would actually add to the immersion if the GElogo or lockead martin logo appeared on aircraft.

Also, seeing real stores that exist now, in game, would be pretty cool. Wouldn't Karkand have been a little more realistic if it had the sign for an arab version of quick-lube on the sign?

If the real world is so full of advertising and real stuff, wouldn't a few advertising things added in make it more realistic? A store would actually be a store if it had a coke machine out front. Or a gas station would actually be a shell or Exxon station with the average US national cost for gas displayed.

Look at it all from a real life emmersion side. It could actually work, but yeah we should only have to pay $40 for a game with advertising. If the advertisers want us to appreciate them, we can appreciate them saving us ten bucks we may spend at their business location.

Dangerdog

09-02-2006, 04:30 AM

So what is that...some kind of threat or something? So you have bunches of clans out there that are actually corporate drones or something? So your saying if I don't "get with the program" I'm going to be banned from playing? Is that it?

If ANYTHING pisses them off I think it would be that they are going to have to PAY for the privilege of having advertising banners FLASH before them while they try to survive the onslaught of noobs using exploits against them on the more than likely bug filled game!

If I do get "blacklisted" then it would be no skin off my nose I can tell ya that from now!

If you read what I said again, there are people on here and other forums who are almost defending EA's in game advertisment gimick, stupid comments like the one about TV being paid for and having ads etc, etc.

If this scheme ends up making clans mad they won't pay for ranked servers, no ranked servers means no place to really play the game, EA won't even put up that many servers. Right now I would say it's very much pushing the envelope on what will be tolerated, the details are sketchy at best.

If they had ads with sound where if you walked near a billboard it started playing some audio file, that would push it right over the edge.

For those who say you can ip block the ad servers in your host file, I really hope you’re right but you have to think that they know if it’s easy to block people will – they’ll force you some way or another to turn the ads on, maybe even use punkbuster to check your systems host file, or perform some sort of CRC check when you connect to the server to see if the ads are turned on – unmodified content error anyone?

Stryker

09-02-2006, 08:33 AM

xR3LOADx

09-02-2006, 10:14 AM

I really dont like the ads atm. There just doing it to make more money.

Miniman

09-02-2006, 10:28 AM

Hmm maybe this is why 2142 is £34.99 (RRP)

im gettin it for £27.99 - a great price.

as for the ads, i dont mind them,. as long as their not everywhere, and they dont make noises. i find the factor of crashing a full craft full of teamates into a frosties billboard quite amusing :)

xR3LOADx

09-02-2006, 10:52 AM

Having ads in the game shouldnt affect the RRP. But EA/Dice will be making money from all the companies who are getting ads in the game.

Tho they should infact lower the price for this reason. But they obviously wont :P

Dangerdog

09-02-2006, 06:26 PM

How adds will effect your game
-Performace drop
-2006 ads (The Simpsons) In English in European Countries (France) Souldn't it be in Frence
- Privacy Violation ? Sending your info out
- Not posters but pictures, very colorful and bright

DICE YOU ARE SO CLOSE TO DESTROYING THE BF SERIES FOREVER !!!

Hehe Look what I made,

While they haven't given any real details - will the ads have sound too? etc. I kind of doubt they'll be collecting personal information beyond tracking how many people looked at the ads and for how long.

My biggest gripe is they're so lazy about it, just placing large signs everywhere in the game, there's no real world objects or structures where you would expect to see some form of advertising, no pop machines, no delivery trucks parked in random locations, no store like structures with posters in the window, etc. Just these really large signs hanking on walls or the side of a building.

If you haven't seen what they look like here's a pic showing two in one frame, look up by the jeep on the hill for the other one (the ads aren't in place yet but that's where they will be)

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/819/819222/img_3883416.html

I'll probably be buying the game just to mess around with till better games come out, I doubt I'll be playing BF2142 even four months after release.

Deadeye313

09-02-2006, 07:00 PM

so giant posters on the sides of buildings? no. making the advertisements seamlessly integrated would have gotten my support. But I'm not going to support giant posters covering stuff so advertisers get seen.

In fact, I will, right now, not buy anything that is advertised in the game. Coke puts in an ad, I'll go pepsi. Pepsi puts in an ad, I'll drink water or store brand cola only. TV shows/movies advertised, I'll flip the channel if I see that show or buy a bootleg of the movie.

if we all do that, make them lose money for advertising, they'll quickly pull the ads.

Stryker

09-04-2006, 10:22 PM

Well in the future maybe everyone is soo poor that they must sell the side of the house to make the rent lol . Can't wait for my 2006 Car ad in 2142 !

Alaz

09-04-2006, 10:25 PM

I cant wait to see how little these ads actually effect any gameplay and how people will just quit whining about it as if its going to flash a 60 foot neon sign hanging off the side of their Titan :rolleyes:

No offence or nowt I just don't believe these ads are going to be a big deal :p

simjay

09-04-2006, 11:09 PM

Welcome to BillboardField 2142! Where we place an in your face advertisment every five feet!

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7046/image00006cc1.jpg

If the adds are designed to blend in the game's environment I won't mind all those billboards.

If not; the game will blow.

MrBrain

10-05-2006, 04:02 AM

Advertising, to paraphrase George Carlin, is corporate fesces that they insist on smearing on everything in our lives. Of course, sports fans have been owned by advertisers for years (there isn't a one second span in most sports programs without the viewer being nagged by commercials). Personally, I block ads from Web sites and use the mute button on TV( I will actually chnage the channel when certain commercials come on). The difference is that in-game advertising is not optional.

Of course, we can avoid playing the game; that really is the only choice as EA has the game designed. It is interesting that EA would basically say "tough crap" to its loyal fan base; "play it with ads or go to Hell". BF2142 is NOT going to be successful because of EA's amazing track record of making well-designed games (patches after patches that never resolve the issues). It is the fans who will make or break it.

Here is an idea on how to deal with corporate greed that requires the in-game advertising (yet does nothing to reduce the purchase price or enhance game play in any POSSIBLE way):

Block the IP address for the advertising scumbag server. Of course EA probably thought of this and has controls in place to make sure we see our toothpaste, Rosie Odonnell and kitchen gadget commercials. Perhaps blocking them would trigger a server failure or something. Instead of blocking I would like to see hackers just REPLACE the ads with whatever content they wish to distribute. Of course, it would become a mess of 12 year old potty humor and "death/kill" messages on all the billbords, but I would rather see this sort of anarchistic response than intrusive, nagging messages for pimple medicine and diarrhea remedies.

This sort of reaction might actually make EA reconsider its disrespectful attitude towards its customers ( we ARE customers, EA. Why do we have to pay for something and then have you get paid more?)

Another option: I will pay MORE for an ad-free game.

I have pre-ordered the game, but if the advertising ruins it I will give the game away. Of course I will also cancel my clan's monthly server subscription as well (are you hearing this, server owners?). There are an amazing assortment of well-designed, beautiful and challenging games coming out. This is just ONE of game among many.....