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Unzen
03-16-2008, 05:20 PM
Give me strength. On more than one occasion today, I was screaming at the screen for people on my own side to simply wake up.

If I run down a titan corridor, go around the corner and I'm killed "Unzen (Lambert Carbine), etc, etc" - the VERY least you would expect the team-mate behind me to do is to immediately show some caution. Not so with some of these tools - running straight after me - and into the fire of Mr. Enemy Lambert.

Another one today. I was sat in an APC capturing a flag on Sidi when a squad member nabbed the nearby walker. Great - some backup. Now I'm panning around, looking for threats when I see the inbound enemy transport. Call it up and fire off an EMP round. Hits the transport and he glides down to about 50ft behind the walker - by which time its occupants are fanning out in all directions. Mr. Walker pilot is stood between me and the crash-landed transport - seemingly fingering his own hoop. Two calls for the transport being spotted do nothing, until someone finally with some cranial matter - decides to mortar the transport from the secondary APC position.

We are not trained special-forces. None of us have probably taken an SAS training course. But FFS - show some intelligence people! :confused:

On a lighter note - I jumped in half-way through a Shuhia titan round and our shield had just gone down. Immediately spawning onto our titan, I took up position on the titan AA turrets and brought down their transport. Then their gunship. Then their transport again. Then the gunship again. Each time, they flew in from the same vector - with the transport being worse as they were firing their machine guns first? :confused: "We're here - over here! Hey - aim this way!!!"

Needless to say, I finished the turkey-shoot round on 19-0, in turn gaining an air ribbon and clear skies pin. It was almost comedy.

Killerus
03-16-2008, 05:30 PM
i know exactly how you feel. It does seem that alot of people are completely clueless to their surroundings. My favorite is commanding and spotting the enemy gunship, only to have our gunship pilot completely ignore the spots and get killed over and over.

iQu'e
03-16-2008, 05:35 PM
For some reason some people can't use their mind it seems. Even brig gens won't revive me when the rest of my team is dead and we're capping a flag... Only for him to get knifed.

But if you find a good squad you won't see many of these dumb*****.

Some people excel though - I was sitting in the titan's aerial guns and this guy were constantly trying to board our titan with a transport even though he could have just easily podded over. I killed him like 15 times in a row and when the round was over he had -2 points, 0 kills and 38 deaths. I don't know what was wrong with that guy.

Unzen
03-16-2008, 06:26 PM
For some reason some people can't use their mind it seems. Even brig gens won't revive me when the rest of my team is dead and we're capping a flag... Only for him to get knifed.

But if you find a good squad you won't see many of these dumb*****.

Some people excel though - I was sitting in the titan's aerial guns and this guy were constantly trying to board our titan with a transport even though he could have just easily podded over. I killed him like 15 times in a row and when the round was over he had -2 points, 0 kills and 38 deaths. I don't know what was wrong with that guy.

LOL! That's exactly what I mean. Do these people write their name on their own foreheads so that they remember when they look in the mirror in the morning? ;)

M.F.A
03-16-2008, 06:42 PM
For some reason some people can't use their mind it seems. Even brig gens won't revive me when the rest of my team is dead and we're capping a flag... Only for him to get knifed.

But if you find a good squad you won't see many of these dumb*****.

Some people excel though - I was sitting in the titan's aerial guns and this guy were constantly trying to board our titan with a transport even though he could have just easily podded over. I killed him like 15 times in a row and when the round was over he had -2 points, 0 kills and 38 deaths. I don't know what was wrong with that guy.

PEAPLE USEING SCAR AND KRYLOV AS GEN REVIVE PEAPLE AS GEN USEING VOSS OMFG THEY STAND AROUND LIKE this

"omfg i need kills vossed u ***** voss u aswell mofo o look guy on the floor i got 2 of em having a nice 15 seconds looking at the ssky?

Fingulfin
03-16-2008, 06:46 PM
"I need a medic!"

"I need a medic!"

"I need a medic!"

*pew pew pew* (You were punished for a teamkill!)

^my life story. I HATE assault players who just stand there looking at you when you are literally SCREAMING in their face for some healing... You don't deserve to hold that medical, I will shoot you in the face and take it for myself. And no, I will not revive you afterwards.

XxSTAM1NAxX
03-16-2008, 07:06 PM
Tell me about it~!
I totally hate being on a team where no one strives for the win. I admit it, I like winning a game, no matter the cost (K/D). On CG the way to win is holding Control Points, especially being PAC. Yet most of the time when I don't play with buddies, my team seems to completely lack knowledge about this? Often enough I find myself trying to cap a Control Point and fighting off wave after wave of enemy troops - sometimes successful, most of the time not. If just one or two people out of 25 would actually grow some balls and do the manly-gameplay it would be much easier to get the win.

Tann San
03-16-2008, 08:02 PM
the thing that pisses me off is not the clueless people, it's the ones who do selfish things on purpose.

The soldier who doesn't revive so they can get a point capturing a flag
The pilot that bails from the transport because they want to get the silo themselves
The guy who jumps in the jeeps driver seat when your using it as a stationary turret and then drives it into the nearest group of mines
The tool that takes your vehicle just as you finish repairing it
The mong that constantly revives you in the line of enemy fire whilst they are sat around the corner safe from harm
The support engineer that wants to keep all their ammo for themselves
The soldier that likes to take their time picking a landing site whilst sat in the titan pod chamber, say a whole round!? (oki so they're getting assists but it's still not cool)
The squad leader that invites you to their team but then doesn't give orders even though the whole squad is spamming "Orders Sir?"
The commander who's first command is to move the titan directly over a silo and leave it there, oki so it's not selfish but it is annoying!

argh! now I'm fuming!

XxSTAM1NAxX
03-16-2008, 08:07 PM
The soldier who doesn't revive so they can get a point capturing a flag
I thought everyone gets a point, only the first to arrive at the flag gets two.

Yoster
03-16-2008, 08:10 PM
Get it all the time, mostly in titan, first of all, I come with a whole squad on their titan, while I clear the halls of RDX, they can do nothing but whatch someone sneak up behind me. It really is every man for himself, and defenders are like headless chickens running around a titan. How do you loose a reactor room with 4 people minimum, You dont loose reactor rooms, just yesterday, I went down there myself and cleared 7 people out solo, defense is very easy if you have a brain.

Gouwd
03-16-2008, 09:08 PM
yup, hate it looking at the sky for 15 seconds while you see 12 ****s with baurs and vosses running over your bode, like it's not there.

Unzen
03-16-2008, 09:16 PM
Get it all the time, mostly in titan, first of all, I come with a whole squad on their titan, while I clear the halls of RDX, they can do nothing but whatch someone sneak up behind me. It really is every man for himself, and defenders are like headless chickens running around a titan. How do you loose a reactor room with 4 people minimum, You dont loose reactor rooms, just yesterday, I went down there myself and cleared 7 people out solo, defense is very easy if you have a brain.

Similarly, when I see an enemy sneak up on one of my guys - and try like mad just to hit the enemy and not my own man. Sometimes I fail, but I CAN'T STAND the instant punish. :mad: Tell you what, I'll just let him take your dog-tag next time, eh?

Talking of instana-punishes - I podded onto the enemy titan today, via the SL's beacon. Probably no more than 50ft in game terms from the upper deck, my own gunship passes between my falling pod and the titan deck. Boom - TK - 0.0000000000000002 seconds later 'You were punished for the team kill'. Like I had a choice, you complete and utter wan**r. :mad: :mad: :mad:

It annoys me beyond contempt when people don't think.

sempf
03-16-2008, 09:46 PM
today i had a team who wondered why they lost. well
first: they never capped a flag
second: they got killed all by one soldier leaving me to kill 10 people.
third: they never revived
fourth: they all kept spawning on a camped beacoun(and the sl was stupid enough to replace it at exactly the same spot). so they got high killstreaks
fith they were all being ego if they were living. noone gave health or munition. the round before all was going well. i was then sl and there were other guys on my team. when i joined we were 100 tickets behind them and only had one flag. i managed to recap and get back 150 tickets. then the round was over: 31-0 for us. but my entire squad left the server because of the other four guys who tked us over a douzen times.

cascarino
03-16-2008, 10:40 PM
got some stories there in which i am the first witness and where the lack of common sense had irremediable impact on the rest of the game:

was playing engie on gibraltar laying down mines at toll, but a fav rushed through before i had time to cover the second entrance. so i ran after it followed by a medic, the badies were going for central camp. the medic goes into the fight first and gets killed at the top of the stairs, i pop out my head and managed to get one but the second was hiding behind a crate. by this time the flag was neutral and i knew i couldn't take care of the situation on my own so i decided to swap kits and revive the medic only to realize this idiot had the shotgun and pk unlocks. i just stared at my screen my mouth wide open and in the meantime got myself shot as well. pac capped the flag as well as the two other back ones... was a quick lost round.

was playing engie (again, as most of the time on conquest maps. i don't get many points and i am kind of ignored but i feel rightfully useful to the team. by the way this method of play would deserve its own thread) on berlin, pac side, jumped into the apc as passenger and left before we got too close to the ennemy mines. i rushed to the flag as our transport went straight into the so obvious trap. that was of course a dumb move from the driver which turned out to be a genius one allowing our walker to get through and helping me cap the first flag. i then drop a few mm to secure the area and get ready to welcome the eu cavalry, first to come is their walker which engages into a long distance fight whith ours. i proceed to repairing it ready to sacrifice my own life, the fight seems to go on and on and i just don't understand why this damn eu walker is still firing back after all the damage he must have taken until i discover that i have been repairing an empty vehicle from the start as the pilot flew away towards new adventures. the result of this battle: pac walker down, the eu walker in perfect shape and now preying the infantry from far away for the rest of the game.

given your team isn't organised enough to react accordingly, it is strange how the stupid act of one can decide of the fate of the battle.

Tann San
03-16-2008, 11:59 PM
I thought everyone gets a point, only the first to arrive at the flag gets two.
They seem to want the "Some loser non reviver captured Church flag" message and probably the two points that come with it. Those are the only reasons I can think why they just stand over your screaming body doing nothing.

Another one is when I get knifed using the titan guns. Was defending a silo really well and some geeza must of seen my crazy score and figured they'd like some of the action so they knifed me and took my place. Great plan except my spawn point was set to the titan and I knew were I was just sat. Knifed them straight back and then they kick voted me. I didn't get kicked and happily spent the rest of the round following them around the map knifing them.

TrooperJac
03-17-2008, 12:27 AM
Some good points and I know exactly what you feel. I often think people just don't look at their maps.

However. I have been playing assault recently. Never really played assault class - didn't really like assault players but...

sometimes an assault player cannot give you a med hub no matter how many times you ask. If you drop a hub, it can take an age before you can equip another one! As for reviving - running in and reviving people willy nilly is suicide. You can bet your *** the minute you select the paddle some shotgunner will appear and blast you in the ***!

tonks950
03-17-2008, 05:50 AM
Some good points and I know exactly what you feel. I often think people just don't look at their maps.

However. I have been playing assault recently. Never really played assault class - didn't really like assault players but...

sometimes an assault player cannot give you a med hub no matter how many times you ask. If you drop a hub, it can take an age before you can equip another one! As for reviving - running in and reviving people willy nilly is suicide. You can bet your *** the minute you select the paddle some shotgunner will appear and blast you in the ***!

True, assault players cannot always deploy a med hub because they are waiting for another one but most of the time they just completely ignore me. If someone calls for a medic but I cant deploy a hub I turn to face them and tell them "No can do"

And no one is asking assault players to risk their lives to revive them, but when you are capping a flag and there isn't any enemy in sight you think they would have the sense.

Also I'd just like to add that not all assualt players carry a defib. For whatever reason they would not take such an essential tool is beyond me.

Back on topic, I continually run into at least 1 person each round who simply lacks common sense. From not reviving, or continually spawning on beacons, constanly going back to the same spot to be killed, ignoring flags that we are losing, using our walker as a transport... The list just goes on and on.

I need great strength to resist the urge to tk them right on the spot.

Field
03-17-2008, 05:57 AM
"I need a medic!"

"I need a medic!"

"I need a medic!"

*pew pew pew* (You were punished for a teamkill!)

^my life story. I HATE assault players who just stand there looking at you when you are literally SCREAMING in their face for some healing... You don't deserve to hold that medical, I will shoot you in the face and take it for myself. And no, I will not revive you afterwards.

it just makes you wonder whats going on in that brain of thiers...:confused:

hooahguy
03-17-2008, 06:15 AM
lso I'd just like to add that not all assualt players carry a defib. For whatever reason they would not take such an essential tool is beyond me.
guilty as charged.:(

DesmondLocke
03-17-2008, 09:01 AM
I HATE assault players who just stand there looking at you when you are literally SCREAMING in their face for some healing... You don't deserve to hold that medical, I will shoot you in the face and take it for myself. And no, I will not revive you afterwards.
Exactly. Same goes for support.
NO. I don't expect you to run halfway across the map to resupply/heal me. But if you are right there, just do it! Drop it, hold it out, I don't care. Even if you can't do it to 100%, at least give me something.

True, assault players cannot always deploy a med hub because they are waiting for another...
Sometimes an assault player won't drop a med hub because he doesn't want to give away his position.
It's surprising, but a fair amount of people don't know or realize that when you 'drop' a med or ammo hub, everyone can see its location...enemy and friendly. I've killed a few enemies before because I saw an ammo/med sign appear out of nowhere, and just ran to it and killed the enemy that placed it.

sempf
03-17-2008, 09:21 AM
i never drop medhubs for that reason. only drop medhubs if the enemie know you are there or is going to know it very soon. i don't mind if an assault player doesnt gives me meds if he doesnt has his medhub. but the worst is if they teabag you with the derfib but not revive. or revive you when there is a nade on your face. in maps where there are to much players for the map eg 40 for camp g. there are no free moments to revive most of the time but in smaller servers there is enough time and they should take it.
also the players dont are tactical. i have seen bots who were more tactical than some players. sometimes(especially on ruins if you come from the stairway from central) players just run circles if someone starts to fire on them. they don't search cover nor fire back. most players seem to be people who only play for the kills(and die to much). it is like everyone wants to go rambo and be the man(wich can't be at the same time; only one of the to is possible).

hooahguy
03-17-2008, 09:47 AM
i usually throw them in corners, so i can fight, heal, and not been seen (for now) all at once! :)

BandoIruka
03-17-2008, 10:16 AM
We've all had days of being surrounded by utter team stupidity but occasionally you get stupid enemies too.

Played a few rounds with victory after victory for each round and then a buddy joined me on the server and i switched teams to play together with him, only to discover why the other team was losing so badly. Besides other teammates being so dumb, other rambo players that tried to fight the war single handedly (the ones i was easily dispatching the previous rounds), and trouble makers who were EMPing the air transports at the start of the round to slow the whole team , crashing airtransports and podding at the last moment to inflict teamkills on those who were unfortunate enough to ride with them.

l33tfodder
03-17-2008, 12:54 PM
I don't know what was wrong with that guy.Trying to get his Purple Heart?

TrooperJac
03-17-2008, 01:20 PM
i usually throw them in corners, so i can fight, heal, and not been seen (for now) all at once! :)

The med hub icon is visible through walls - shows up on everyones HUD

xslaneyx
03-17-2008, 01:33 PM
The med hub icon is visible through walls - shows up on everyones HUD

this also applies to ammo hubs also.. the most common mistake for a nub to do is drop one of these so close to the enemy if trying to hide.

its helped me a lot in tracking certain people down when they drop hubs and camp lol:laugh:

Marche
03-17-2008, 02:12 PM
this also applies to ammo hubs also.. the most common mistake for a nub to do is drop one of these so close to the enemy if trying to hide.

its helped me a lot in tracking certain people down when they drop hubs and camp lol:laugh:

Also people always forget that they shout out:

'I can resupply you'
'I can heal you'

When they drop a box or revive somebody. People just don't realise because you don't hear yourself say it when you drop a box. Iv killed many people with there defib out after hearing that.

BandoIruka
03-17-2008, 02:22 PM
im not sure if people can hear you say other things from the command rose such a backup or sorry or go go go etc.

I sometimes prone over enemies that i might had killed underhandedly and say sorry a few times

l33tfodder
03-17-2008, 02:23 PM
Recently I saw a group of 3 ppl hiding behind the crates west of Central Camp trying to block the enemy from entering the area through the gate. I started to nade them from above and managed to get 3 times a 3-kill. After that I went around their back and knifed all 3 of them. Finally they got the message and didn't came back...

sempf
03-17-2008, 02:24 PM
you can hear other people say things via command rose if you are near enough. always use radio silence to kill somebody. once a guy tried to knife me but he was always spotting me out. i took out the herzog and he got 2 shots in his face and "thank you".

joe2
03-17-2008, 08:52 PM
fingering his own hoop?? wtf

FURRY BIRD
03-18-2008, 12:33 AM
Some people forget how to play for fun and points will come, I end some rounds with 10 points, but I don't care that much as I enjoy the game, but some are all about points and team work goes out the window. I often cover my teammates and if I get a point fine, if not oh well.Dice should give teammate points more often, that would solve a lot of problems as many have no clue about team work.

hooahguy
03-18-2008, 04:01 AM
well, one thing which aggravates me as well is pilots who intentionally get into helis first and then crash them. in this case, it was me, but there was no one inside it, luckily for me. (it was one of my first flights)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygcd83BARW8

alcancer
03-19-2008, 12:45 AM
I totally understand the frustration with other teammates at times. I often play in a squad with my brother and he and I work together really well. But too often, we feel like we're the only people doing anything on the team.

One of my biggest pet peeves is having a teammate follow you to a flag or silo and then not get within the radius to help turn it faster. I wish there was a radio message on the comma rose that said, "Get on the flag, dumba$$!" It may not actually change anything, but it would make me feel better yelling it in-game.

wardogHk
03-19-2008, 12:53 AM
I killed him like 15 times in a row and when the round was over he had -2 points, 0 kills and 38 deaths. I don't know what was wrong with that guy.

lol call him a retard?

BandoIruka
03-19-2008, 04:41 AM
Well sometimes it isn't always a good thing to put all your eggs in one basket. I sometimes let teammates cap the flag while i watch out for enemies from a different vantage point

DesmondLocke
03-19-2008, 06:11 AM
Well sometimes it isn't always a good thing to put all your eggs in one basket. I sometimes let teammates cap the flag while i watch out for enemies from a different vantage point
Same thing goes for vehicles. If you want to cap a point after you've driven to it....do NOT get out of it. Nothing worse than having a team mate jump out of a tank or APC, only to have the enemy take it over and kill the rest who were helping to cap. If you can't go down with the vehicle, don't take the vehicle in the first place.

RYKUU
03-19-2008, 06:25 AM
I had a very imilar problem we were protecting the LAST corridor and we find there are grenade spammers (after i died looking around) this one guys just keeps walking into them and i am like "dude what are you smoking" after that we just started to Tk me, so annoying.

Diamond621
03-19-2008, 06:29 AM
Also people always forget that they shout out:

'I can resupply you'
'I can heal you'



I can't tell you how idiotic this is, deploying a medical hub while trying to remain hidden.

Great, not only have you informed the enemy where you are...but you've also been kind enough to announce that you are wounded! I swear, it's like cutting your own leg off in shark-infested waters - "Hey! I'm over here! And I'm bleeding profusely!"

Some people are just stupid. I enjoy taking advantage of them.

DesmondLocke
03-19-2008, 09:32 AM
...
Great, not only have you informed the enemy where you are...but you've also been kind enough to announce that you are wounded! I swear, it's like cutting your own leg off in shark-infested waters - "Hey! I'm over here! And I'm bleeding profusely!"...
WOW...that's the best example I've heard in ages. :laugh:
I've been yelled at and berated for constantly destroying friendly ammo hubs that were dropped near
me.....only to explain I didn't want my position compromised, and that's what they were doing.

Unzen
03-19-2008, 10:32 AM
WOW...that's the best example I've heard in ages. :laugh:
I've been yelled at and berated for constantly destroying friendly ammo hubs that were dropped near
me.....only to explain I didn't want my position compromised, and that's what they were doing.

It can work the other way if you plan for it though. The recon guys especially, like nothing more than ammo hubs for their RDX jaunts on the control panels. On titan defence, I've purposely laid out an ammo box that would be tempting for the said recon bloke, only to for him to receive a Clark round at point blank, the moment he comes around the corner.

Kind of like a recon honey-pot. ;)

ICE*T
03-19-2008, 12:31 PM
so if your getting all serious go and join a clan your always going to get poor play on a pub server maybe it is you who needs to show some common sense?

Zarious
03-19-2008, 01:33 PM
I let my 6 year old son play this game some. While he's not really all that good, he's not really horrible either (Osis|LittleS&D if you see him in a server, yell at him all you want, he will completely ignore you :D ). He spends most of his time either running around with a defib reviving team mates or attempting to defib enemies. Anyway, the other day he was playing on some random 24/7 camp g server, and he got up between rounds to get a juice box from the fridge. I asked him if his team won the round. He said no. When I asked him why (his team was up by about 30 tickets when I checked on him last) he said and I quote "Daddy I think some of the people on my team are not very smart."

When a 6yr old notices how stupid his team mates are, that says something to me :|:

Tann San
03-19-2008, 02:06 PM
sometimes when capturing a flag or a silo I will throw down my ammo hub or med pack on the opposite side from where I'm hiding, that way a fair few enemies run for the semi-conceiled pack thinking they can get an easy kill when really it goes the other way around. It doesn't always work but when it does I get a big cheesy grin :¬)

hooahguy
03-23-2008, 05:45 PM
well, today on suez canal, i entered a gunship. a few seconds later, it exploded, but i didnt catch who did it and how. i respawned, and hid to see what happened when another gunship began to take off. i saw some douche bag, (i forgot his name) laying RDX on his own teams aircraft and blowing them up! so i shot him. then he shot me. i shot him back and spent the remainder of the match hunting him down.
counted as 3 TKs, but it was worth it. that idiot cost our team dearly!

Bradley
03-23-2008, 05:51 PM
"I need a medic!"

"I need a medic!"

"I need a medic!"

*pew pew pew* (You were punished for a teamkill!)

^my life story. I HATE assault players who just stand there looking at you when you are literally SCREAMING in their face for some healing... You don't deserve to hold that medical, I will shoot you in the face and take it for myself. And no, I will not revive you afterwards.


You're just like me.


Another cool trick.

When you're capping a flag drop a mecical pack or an ammo HUB on the opposite side. Then some suckers come in, aiming constantly at the pack like a wallhacker. Then you just open up on him, it's sooooo hilarious how you can sucker-in some people.

RichardDawkins
03-23-2008, 10:13 PM
what amazes me is how some people assume you are brain-dead. like when you run for a corridor for safety amidst a hail of bullets and slap your heal-box down and face the music crouched and ready. 9 times out of 10 they will blindly follow you and be dead before they have even stopped sprinting

MohicanGR
03-24-2008, 04:25 AM
the thing that pisses me off is not the clueless people, it's the ones who do selfish things on purpose.
The soldier who doesn't revive so they can get a point capturing a flag
The pilot that bails from the transport because they want to get the silo themselves
The guy who jumps in the jeeps driver seat when your using it as a stationary turret and then drives it into the nearest group of mines
The tool that takes your vehicle just as you finish repairing it
The mong that constantly revives you in the line of enemy fire whilst they are sat around the corner safe from harm
The support engineer that wants to keep all their ammo for themselves
The soldier that likes to take their time picking a landing site whilst sat in the titan pod chamber, say a whole round!? (oki so they're getting assists but it's still not cool)
The squad leader that invites you to their team but then doesn't give orders even though the whole squad is spamming "Orders Sir?"
The commander who's first command is to move the titan directly over a silo and leave it there, oki so it's not selfish but it is annoying!argh! now I'm fuming!


I don't know if someone else mentioned it and I missed that, but I have to say it too: I *HATE* commanders who spend the whole round flying and just ignore everyone asking for UAV, supply drop or just a quick sat scan. They probably think it's a good way of making some extra points, but it's useless if their total incompetence makes their team loose.

DesmondLocke
03-24-2008, 04:39 AM
I don't know if someone else mentioned it and I missed that, but I have to say it too: I *HATE* commanders who spend the whole round flying and just ignore everyone asking for UAV, supply drop or just a quick sat scan. They probably think it's a good way of making some extra points, but it's useless if their total incompetence makes their team loose.
Exactly. If you want to be Commander, find a nice place to hide, go prone, switch to Commander screen....then stay there till the round's over or you die. Your job is to be our eyes and ears in the battlefield. If you're flying or driving you can't do that.