View Full Version : Jump and shoot
Tormentedhalo
10-03-2006, 11:00 PM
Not sure, but i didnt play beta but did they put it back like vanilla bf2 where you could jump and shoot, and is there any dolphin diving anymore.
just wondering.Because I dont have anything to do im bored with bf2 cuz of the constant dolphin diving and tk's.:mad:
slosh
10-03-2006, 11:05 PM
I sure hope not. I haven't played 2142 at all either but I hated dolphin divers in BF2.
menace-uk-
10-03-2006, 11:18 PM
Not sure, but i didnt play beta but did they put it back like vanilla bf2 where you could jump and shoot, and is there any dolphin diving anymore.
just wondering.Because I dont have anything to do im bored with bf2 cuz of the constant dolphin diving and tk's.:mad:
I have not played the Beta either but i belive i read somewhere that dolphine diving is not present in the game:D
Beerman
10-03-2006, 11:19 PM
You cant jump and shoot.
SpecOrdnance
10-03-2006, 11:31 PM
Nope, at least you couldn't in beta.
fknlo
10-03-2006, 11:35 PM
maybe they finally got it right. they "fixed" it in several patches
Tormentedhalo
10-03-2006, 11:37 PM
maybe they finally got it right. they "fixed" it in several patches
yes lets hope so i'll have my fingers crossed-and i hope they didnt nerf the pods like many forums said they did in beta 2:cry:
Richard012345
10-03-2006, 11:38 PM
I don't think it was in Beta 2...but then again, I've re-programmed my skillz from dolphin diving to prone spamming...which was USELESS in the Beta, so I just stood up straight and fought like a retard.
KcAndress
10-03-2006, 11:47 PM
hopefully they fixed it!!!
I hate when people jump around like idiots ill still kill them but with this new sniper with oonly 3 bullets its gonna be a bit harder
DeathEchoDemon
10-04-2006, 12:04 AM
man i hated dolphin divers, espeacially when i have my Spec ops with the weapon upgraded all the way, then have somebody kill me mith a M-16 from 100 yds away. Gurrr:wall:
Twigo
10-04-2006, 12:11 AM
i really hated that in bf2 , stopped playing untill they patched the dumb dolphin dive :mad:
DeathEchoDemon
10-04-2006, 12:16 AM
i came late i got the game last summer. So i experienced it just a little.
Twigo
10-04-2006, 12:18 AM
i came late i got the game last summer. So i experienced it just a little.
know what you mean , i got it while my friends were already at the 6th rank or so , had not much good moments before the 1.3 patch :p
Richard012345
10-04-2006, 12:32 AM
If you got the game late, just know that v1.0 was the best version of the game, gameplay wise. It was BF2 as BF2 was meant to be, not the noobish thing it has become.
Twigo
10-04-2006, 12:36 AM
If you got the game late, just know that v1.0 was the best version of the game, gameplay wise. It was BF2 as BF2 was meant to be, not the noobish thing it has become.
can be , but v1.0 had the dolphin thing and thats highly unrealistic ;)
never seen a soldat in war jumping on his stomach up and down without using hands and then hitting something while shooting :laugh:
Richard012345
10-04-2006, 12:43 AM
can be , but v1.0 had the dolphin thing and thats highly unrealistic ;)
never seen a soldat in war jumping on his stomach up and down without using hands and then hitting something while shooting :laugh:
Then again, I've never seen anyone get shot in the head and have only a poof of smoke fly out the back.
Richard012345
10-04-2006, 12:45 AM
Not to mention seeing that same person be revived 5 seconds later with nothing but shock paddles. My point, if Battlefield games were meant to be realistic, they wouldn't be games.
Chasepwner
10-04-2006, 01:01 AM
There is NO jumping and shooting, NO dolphin diving, NO prone with perfect accuracy instantly, NO rapid jumping, NO 5 foot Shaq jumps. Finally, the infantry is fixed!
Tormentedhalo
10-04-2006, 01:05 AM
There is NO jumping and shooting, NO dolphin diving, NO prone with perfect accuracy instantly, NO rapid jumping, NO 5 foot Shaq jumps. Finally, the infantry is fixed!
OK just wondering lol.:D
ToxicVega
10-04-2006, 01:06 AM
yes lets hope so i'll have my fingers crossed-and i hope they didnt nerf the pods like many forums said they did in beta 2:cry:
what probs are you talking about? J/C
ToxicVega
10-04-2006, 01:08 AM
Not to mention seeing that same person be revived 5 seconds later with nothing but shock paddles. My point, if Battlefield games were meant to be realistic, they wouldn't be games.
we don't want reality, we want noobish nefted up Bull ****, thats why we play games LOL :D
cantina_fly
10-04-2006, 01:41 AM
There is no Dophin Diving in 2142.
Prone spamming is guaranteed to get you killed. When you dive, your accuracy goes all to hell for 5 seconds. To give a BF2 reference, if you know what the odds are of hitting a guy with the PKM while walking toward him, half it and you're close. ;) The sniper rifle is the only weapon that quickly regains it's accuracy when you prone. Everywhere you would insta-prone in BF2, you will want to crouch in 2142. It might help if you remap your crouch key to "Z" if you never crouched much in BF2.
After about 5 seconds or so, prone is every bit as accurate as BF2, you just can't run around a corner, dive at someone's feet and expect laser strikes.
Tormentedhalo
10-04-2006, 01:48 AM
what probs are you talking about? J/C
they said you could only launch a pod next to the titan and not all over the map, that may sound silly but if your a sniper and u need to get somewhere high its a good alternative to a snipers nest.
and EA said earlier before bf2142 beta that if you were in a pod you could be good enough to land the pods on infantry to kill them!:laugh:
|D|-Max
10-04-2006, 01:51 AM
You cant jump and shoot.
gay! and thats y BF2 is boring
Tormentedhalo
10-04-2006, 02:01 AM
gay! and thats y BF2 is boring
If bf2 is boring then what the h@ll are you doing in a bf2142 forum that is mostly bf2 veterans!:evil:
Chasepwner
10-04-2006, 02:05 AM
they said you could only launch a pod next to the titan and not all over the map
They never said that. In the Titan video, they said that there was an idicator telling you when you are in range of landing on the Titan, not when you are allowed to launch.
Steakslim
10-04-2006, 02:12 AM
There is NO jumping and shooting, NO dolphin diving, NO prone with perfect accuracy instantly, NO rapid jumping, NO 5 foot Shaq jumps. Finally, the infantry is fixed!
I imagined your post being spoken by this man:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3464/howarddeandz0.jpg
YYYYYYYYYYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
biff77
10-04-2006, 02:18 AM
They never said that. In the Titan video, they said that there was an idicator telling you when you are in range of landing on the Titan, not when you are allowed to launch.
That's how I interpret it too. I think it means that you can pod launch anywhere, but it tells you when you're close enough to the titan so you can launch to the full height necessary to board it. Hopefully that's how it works.
zoidberg
10-04-2006, 02:35 AM
acctually in the beta , the jump height has been reduced
for example a small fence about 0.5 meters high, i tried jumping over it
and it took about 3 tries before i could.
Chasepwner
10-04-2006, 02:54 AM
I imagined your post being spoken by this man:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3464/howarddeandz0.jpg
YYYYYYYYYYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
YEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
I hate Howard Dean. What a tard.
centepede
10-04-2006, 03:01 AM
if you notice, all of the remarks here in this post that are negative towards the removal of dolphin diving and bunny hopping are kids under the age of 18. lol....F%!@#$! little tards!!!!!!!!!!stupid little spamers...lol...I'll bet anything that those same idiots that dolphing dived and bunny hopped throught the entire year and a half of bf2 wont stand a chance in 2142.(that is if ofcource assuming they get rid of the dolphins and hoppers in 2142). most mature playes over the age of 18 rarely do this frustrating technique. Ohhh sorry, did I say technique? I meant cheat!!!...lol....lets face it, it does not take much talent to jump around like a f*&!@#$% moron all game long until the other person emties there clip and then you shot and kill them once your done jumping. any retard can do that. I dont know about you guys but these retards tottaly killed the game for me. I really do hope they get rid of this S@#!T in 2142 for all our sakes!!
cantina_fly
10-04-2006, 03:08 AM
acctually in the beta , the jump height has been reduced
for example a small fence about 0.5 meters high, i tried jumping over it
and it took about 3 tries before i could.
That was one of my major beefs with beta (which in the greater scheme of things, is rather minor.) It's fine that you want to fix bunny hopping, but that just went too far. The northern silo in town was a great example. There is a low wall on two sides of the silo that you couldn't jump unless you were touching. Any further away, and you were just a sitting duck for who ever was shooting at you. Very annoying.
I wouldn't mind if jump height was tied to armor weight, so it would just be another penalty of heavy armor, but it appeared to affect light armor just the same.
On the subject of the OP, does anyone think people in light armor should be allowed to jump and shoot? Try to give some other distinction between light and heavy armor. 'Cause reduced sprint range just isn't a big enough down side to offset the added protection IMO.
Chasepwner
10-04-2006, 03:10 AM
Centepede, I'm under 18 but I highly dislike 'flopping around like a fish' so does that make me a little tard?:confused: :laugh:
centepede
10-04-2006, 03:11 AM
cantina I understand your concern...read my post on top of yours^ here if you have'nt already. I'd rather have jumping a fence nerfed than all the other things I mentioned in my post.
Tormentedhalo
10-04-2006, 03:20 AM
if you notice, all of the remarks here in this post that are negative towards the removal of dolphin diving and bunny hopping are kids under the age of 18. lol....F%!@#$! little tards!!!!!!!!!!stupid little spamers...lol...I'll bet anything that those same idiots that dolphing dived and bunny hopped throught the entire year and a half of bf2 wont stand a chance in 2142.(that is if ofcource assuming they get rid of the dolphins and hoppers in 2142). most mature playes over the age of 18 rarely do this frustrating technique. Ohhh sorry, did I say technique? I meant cheat!!!...lol....lets face it, it does not take much talent to jump around like a f*&!@#$% moron all game long until the other person emties there clip and then you shot and kill them once your done jumping. any retard can do that. I dont know about you guys but these retards tottaly killed the game for me. I really do hope they get rid of this S@#!T in 2142 for all our sakes!!
If you would also like to know im 15 and I F**KING hate dolphin divers and bunny hoppers too but i now for a fact you have no right to call anybody nothing cause i bet when u played bf2 for the first time, when you first engaged into combat you bunny hopped like a little girl not knowing the buttons correctly so you have no invert judgement on other people you F**KING SMACKTARD
PLUS if you have something bad to say dont post it here TELL EA your problems and dont bring them here you A$$WIPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
centepede
10-04-2006, 03:31 AM
hey tormentedhalo...lol....stop being such a fanboy...lol. I'm generalising when I made the comment above. I did'nt say all under age kids! And no! I have never dolphine dived or bunny hoped in bf2 or any game for that matter. It takes away the reality of the gaming experince for me, so I never do it. So dont take it personal. Im not talking about you. My remarks are for those tards that do it all the freaking time making bf2's gameplay crap!!!
Although I gotta admit I did scream like a little girl when I got shot the first time...lol
Tormentedhalo
10-04-2006, 03:40 AM
hey tormentedhalo...lol....stop being such a fanboy...lol. I'm generalising when I made the comment above. I did'nt say all under age kids! And no! I have never dolphine dived or bunny hoped in bf2 or any game for that matter. It takes away the reality of the gaming experince for me, so I never do it. So dont take it personal. Im not talking about you. My remarks are for those tards that do it all the freaking time making bf2's gameplay crap!!!
Although I gotta admit I did scream like a little girl when I got shot the first time...lol
Ok not sure what to say is that many people do it but you shouldnt point fingers at people in the forums, i think the place where you would find them is in the EA forums. :D ok sorry if i offended ya!:cry:
Masterstyle
10-04-2006, 02:25 PM
There is NO jumping and shooting, NO dolphin diving, NO prone with perfect accuracy instantly, NO rapid jumping, NO 5 foot Shaq jumps. Finally, the infantry is fixed!
infantry in 2142 is **** compared to bf2, in my opinion infantry is not as fun as bf2 infantry, but ive learned to replay bf2 over and over again due to all the people complaining and all the patches all that culminating in the 1.3 patch, total ****.
infantry in 2142 is **** compared to bf2, in my opinion infantry is not as fun as bf2 infantry, but ive learned to replay bf2 over and over again due to all the people complaining and all the patches all that culminating in the 1.3 patch, total ****.
hmm i couldn't disagree more. This game is infantry orintated, several things in BF2 made it so that Infantry got the short end of the stick, and had no way to counter them. 2142 offers adequte ways to counter every possible contingency against infantry themselves. Groundpounders ftw.
Masterstyle
10-04-2006, 03:57 PM
hmm i couldn't disagree more. This game is infantry orintated, several things in BF2 made it so that Infantry got the short end of the stick, and had no way to counter them. 2142 offers adequte ways to counter every possible contingency against infantry themselves. Groundpounders ftw.
i think u read my post wrong
M*A*S*H
10-04-2006, 05:43 PM
The only thing I miss about jump shooting is the ungodly carnage it used to cause when combined with the DAO, which was fine imo as you were at a severe disadvantage at anything other than close range. Ahh, good times :)
As for the act of bouncing around like a loon, I see no problems with it. If I'm being shot at by a tank or have just run out of ammo, why can't I do everything possible (within the rules of game) to stay alive?
gungrinner
10-04-2006, 06:41 PM
If jumping like an idiot is part of the game, then its fair game if you do not feel it is "unfair-play". I am personally glad they have changed the jumping situation and hopefully we won't have to have those stupid arguments about spamming the jump button. Hopefully we can eliminate the phrase "bunny-hoping".
Sir Robin
10-04-2006, 08:10 PM
I played the first and second version of the public betas.
You could not jump and shoot, literally, if you jumped and pushed the shoot key while you were in the air nothing happened.
While your accuracy went to hell when you went prone from standing it improved within a few seconds. Though I never tested it myself I heard that you could crouch then prone without the accuracy penalty of going straight to prone from standing.
Beyond this the LMG's and HMG's of the Support kit actually became more accurate the longer the trigger was held down. Seeing your shot group brackets tightening up while you're sending lots of rounds towards the opfor gave me a rush every time.
In both versions jumping seemed to chew up a lot of your stamina. Even if you didn't manage to get over that low wall by the Church Silo you still lost a big chunk of your stamina.
Jumping still seemed to give you a big advantage in avoiding incoming fire. Playing as an engineer I ran into a couple of occasions were an opfor engy and I both started jumping around and cutting loose with our SMG's. We both emptied our clips barely scratching each other.
Whether I equipped light or heavy armor it seemed to make no difference in how high I could jump. Though my stamina lasted longer running with light armor than heavy.
The pods got a big nerf in the second version. While you could still get up to a titan as long as you were within a certain distance you could not jump half way across the map anymore. You would end up just a few meters from the APC. However you could still get pretty far by launching from the Titan's pods.
While I understand it made defense hard since you could just pod your way across the map, it was an awful lot of fun leapfrogging around.
Sir. Tasty
10-04-2006, 08:34 PM
:evil: Not sure, but i didnt play beta but did they put it back like vanilla bf2 where you could jump and shoot, and is there any dolphin diving anymore.
just wondering.Because I dont have anything to do im bored with bf2 cuz of the constant dolphin diving and tk's.:mad:
its gone from bf2....and in the beta it didt i tihnk they have desi'ned play better from this one
centepede
10-05-2006, 05:10 AM
I know the gameplay in the bf franchise was never meant to be uber realistic and thats fine my be. Theres plenty of mods out there for bf2 that are very realistic and fun.(project reality for intance). But dudes!!!!..lol...common!!!!! leaping like a damn frog up in the air 12, 13 times when your getting fired upon is freaking rediculous...lol. I dont know about you guys but it completely takes me away from the games immersion of being in an actuall war. All of a sudden I realize its just a video game.(you know, that would never really happen kinda feeling). reminds me of duck hunt for crying out loud...lol.
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