You people... I swear

[IHateYou]

Does anybody else on these boards play computer/video games for fun? I see so many posts with people bitching about code writing, EA server side support, true to life realism, AI interaction.... What ever happened to just being entertained? This place is apparantely full of Computer Scientists with nothing better to do than whine about how "inferior" someone else's product is. This is a video game, not some Oracle database your Fortune 500 company is reliant on.

Maybe its just me, but the way I look at it, I'm shelling out money for entertainment. And this game entertains the hell out of me. Sure the code could have been written a little bit better, but is the coding keeping you from having a good time? If it is, then perhaps you should dig up your old C++ books and write your own video game. And then you can quit whining about "faceless corporations" stealing your hard earned cash.

Sorry for the bitchiness in the post, but I just get tired of the e-scientists sometimes. The only reason I'm writing this is cause I'm at work, and can't play the game... :( But as soon as I get home, it's back to the adrenaline rush of boarding and destroying the Titan. Good times...

[menace-uk-]

I play games for fun and that is it but it is hard to have fun if you keep getting diconected:laugh:

because of EA's master server:rolleyes:

[The_KELRaTH]

or the screen is all jittery when you use the mouse to look around (but fine with KB and fine in every other game I have).

[Elinombrable]

They are solving that disconects...there is an oficial post about that from DICE and now i only got 1 disconected from master server in 24 hours...

[IHateYou]

I play games for fun and that is it but it is hard to have fun if you keep getting diconected:laugh:

because of EA's master server:rolleyes:

That stuff happens, check today's front page, it's been fixed. EA didn't know what kind of client load to expect, and they already knew a problem was likely to happen. Sadly, the only way to fix it is to let it happen first. Should be good to go for the game's release though.

[IHateYou]

or the screen is all jittery when you use the mouse to look around (but fine with KB and fine in every other game I have).

Sounds like your PC is not up to par. Try turning down your graphics settings... :laugh:

[cc//Ollie90]

Does anybody else on these boards play computer/video games for fun? I see so many posts with people bitching about code writing, EA server side support, true to life realism, AI interaction.... What ever happened to just being entertained? This place is apparantely full of Computer Scientists with nothing better to do than whine about how "inferior" someone else's product is. This is a video game, not some Oracle database your Fortune 500 company is reliant on.

Maybe its just me, but the way I look at it, I'm shelling out money for entertainment. And this game entertains the hell out of me. Sure the code could have been written a little bit better, but is the coding keeping you from having a good time? If it is, then perhaps you should dig up your old C++ books and write your own video game. And then you can quit whining about "faceless corporations" stealing your hard earned cash.

Sorry for the bitchiness in the post, but I just get tired of the e-scientists sometimes. The only reason I'm writing this is cause I'm at work, and can't play the game... :( But as soon as I get home, it's back to the adrenaline rush of boarding and destroying the Titan. Good times...

Damn straight

[menace-uk-]

That stuff happens, check today's front page, it's been fixed. EA didn't know what kind of client load to expect, and they already knew a problem was likely to happen. Sadly, the only way to fix it is to let it happen first. Should be good to go for the game's release though.

It is not fixed at all i have played 6 games since that has been posted and i got disconected 4 times and seen countless others suffer the same fate:cry:

So fixed my ***:D

Did you think about what you are saying before you made this thread:confused:

Bad coding
Connection problems
Can turn a really fun game in to the most frustrating game on the planet so how can you have fun with a game that frustrates you:confused:

Simple answer is you can not:(

[Mepham[75thR]]

I love EA and Dice. i know they will sort it out, all i need is a decent PC now :D

[cc//Ollie90]

I'm glad that my PC can play this on Max settings, I really didn't think it would because I had to play BF2 on med/low.

[goldxp]

So when I go to a cinema I pay to watch a film (entertainment) but if a guy with a massive afro or one of them big Mexican hats sits in from of me, what I am 2 do? I can still hear and watch bits of the movie but for sure I am not having fun at it.

I can’t move seats cos I don’t control the system and I can’t really abandon the cinema cos it’s my favourite movie plus i payed to be there and I can’t complain cos that would make me a cry boy, so what’s the solution? Sit back and not enjoy the movie and don’t think that I just spend money to watch someone’s head/hat/hair.

[Deesies]

People play for fun and complain about something that detracts from that fun.

Logic ey? Pretty super, isn't it?

[IHateYou]

It is not fixed at all i have played 6 games since that has been posted and i got disconected 4 times and seen countless others suffer the same fate:cry:

So fixed my ***:D

Did you think about what you are saying before you made this thread:confused:

Bad coding
Connection problems
Can turn a really fun game in to the most frustrating game on the planet so how can you have fun with a game that frustrates you:confused:

Simple answer is you can not:(

Then it sounds like you are not having fun with this game. You should probably find something else to do. The simple answer is that you should go play CS.

[IHateYou]

So when I go to a cinema I pay to watch a film (entertainment) but if a guy with a massive afro or one of them big Mexican hats sits in from of me, what I am 2 do? I can still hear and watch bits of the movie but for sure I am not having fun at it.

I can’t move seats cos I don’t control the system and I can’t really abandon the cinema cos it’s my favourite movie plus i payed to be there and I can’t complain cos that would make me a cry boy, so what’s the solution? Sit back and not enjoy the movie and don’t think that I just spend money to watch someone’s head/hat/hair.

Hmmm, that's really strectching it. It's more appropriate to say that halfway through the movie, the projector stopped for 5 minutes (disconnect), and twice during the movie the picture was slowed down for 5 seconds. (lag) Now, the movie theater told you ahead of time that this would happen (demo) and it's up to you as the consumer to decide whether or not your hard earned cash is still worth this entertainment. But don't sit there and ***** about how your favorite movie isn't going to function perfectly, and then buy tickets, and sit in the theater the whole time yelling about how bad the film is, ruining everyone elses attempt to have a good time. Now that's an analogy.

[Chris_Redfield]

Does anybody else on these boards play computer/video games for fun? I see so many posts with people bitching about code writing, EA server side support, true to life realism, AI interaction.... What ever happened to just being entertained? This place is apparantely full of Computer Scientists with nothing better to do than whine about how "inferior" someone else's product is. This is a video game, not some Oracle database your Fortune 500 company is reliant on.

Maybe its just me, but the way I look at it, I'm shelling out money for entertainment. And this game entertains the hell out of me. Sure the code could have been written a little bit better, but is the coding keeping you from having a good time? If it is, then perhaps you should dig up your old C++ books and write your own video game. And then you can quit whining about "faceless corporations" stealing your hard earned cash.

Sorry for the bitchiness in the post, but I just get tired of the e-scientists sometimes. The only reason I'm writing this is cause I'm at work, and can't play the game... :( But as soon as I get home, it's back to the adrenaline rush of boarding and destroying the Titan. Good times...

Another shallow gaming pshychologist who cant see past the word complaining.

The reason why people complain isnt because the game is fun, its because they want certain elements that are not fun, to be fun aswell.

So basically, if I go to a server and I see "THERES A PROBLEM WITH YOUR CONNECTION!" message and I cant play (cant have fun) for sh!t, and I may KNOW what the problem is about, I enter the conversation where its been discussed.

So please, Dr Gameo-Freud, go away.

And as for BF2142 being "fun". Its as fun as watching TV-Shopping.

I quickly found myself playing Beta for stats/unlocks only, and that was only 20 minutes into the game, which is pretty damn sad if you ask me. The Demo I am not even firing up unless at least 2 of my buds are online, which is even more sad.

Whats ultimately sad, is that the game doesnt provide ANY challenge at all.

[IHateYou]

Another shallow gaming pshychologist who cant see past the word complaining.

The reason why people complain isnt because the game is fun, its because they want certain elements that are not fun, to be fun aswell.

So basically, if I go to a server and I see "THERES A PROBLEM WITH YOUR CONNECTION!" message and I cant play (cant have fun) for sh!t, and I may KNOW what the problem is about, I enter the conversation where its been discussed.

So please, Dr Gameo-Freud, go away.

And as for BF2142 being "fun". Its as fun as watching TV-Shopping.

I quickly found myself playing Beta for stats/unlocks only, and that was only 20 minutes into the game, which is pretty damn sad if you ask me. The Demo I am not even firing up unless at least 2 of my buds are online, which is even more sad.

Whats ultimately sad, is that the game doesnt provide ANY challenge at all.

Then like I said, either write your own video game that doesn't suck, or don't buy this one. Quit whining about the problems in this game. If there isn't a challenge here for you, then find something that doesn't bore you to death.

[goldxp]

Can turn a really fun game in to the most frustrating game on the planet so how can you have fun with a game that frustrates you

not here to defend or complain (much) about EA/DICE but to call this game/demo "the most frustrating game on the planet" cmon u cant be playing that many games or own many of the games with a comment like that, the demo problems is frustrating but to call it the "the most frustrating game on the planet" its a bit over the top. :cool:

Again it’s your opinion so I respect it for that even if I don’t agree.;)

[ReaperOfsouls]

Does anybody else on these boards play computer/video games for fun? I see so many posts with people bitching about code writing, EA server side support, true to life realism, AI interaction.... What ever happened to just being entertained? This place is apparantely full of Computer Scientists with nothing better to do than whine about how "inferior" someone else's product is. This is a video game, not some Oracle database your Fortune 500 company is reliant on.

Maybe its just me, but the way I look at it, I'm shelling out money for entertainment. And this game entertains the hell out of me. Sure the code could have been written a little bit better, but is the coding keeping you from having a good time? If it is, then perhaps you should dig up your old C++ books and write your own video game. And then you can quit whining about "faceless corporations" stealing your hard earned cash.

Sorry for the bitchiness in the post, but I just get tired of the e-scientists sometimes. The only reason I'm writing this is cause I'm at work, and can't play the game... :( But as soon as I get home, it's back to the adrenaline rush of boarding and destroying the Titan. Good times...

First off....

WELCOME BACK!!!!! How the hell have you been? PM me.

And "On Topic" I see where you are coming from but there are some simple little things that should have no excuse for being there, like not being able to use the native resolution for 80 percent of the moniters on the markey.

[goldxp]

Hmmm, that's really strectching it. It's more appropriate to say that halfway through the movie, the projector stopped for 5 minutes (disconnect), and twice during the movie the picture was slowed down for 5 seconds. (lag) Now, the movie theater told you ahead of time that this would happen (demo) and it's up to you as the consumer to decide whether or not your hard earned cash is still worth this entertainment. But don't sit there and ***** about how your favorite movie isn't going to function perfectly, and then buy tickets, and sit in the theater the whole time yelling about how bad the film is, ruining everyone elses attempt to have a good time. Now that's an analogy.


Ok I think I miss understood your and this is not much about the demo but more about the ones saying that they will not buy the game due to the demo failing on them.

If u can’t play the Demo cos u have issues with the master server/disconnects then don’t buy the game its simple until the problems are addressed, but its kind of hard in making a judgement on a game by playing a demo with 1 map with no unlocks available, when I read they are not enough kits, the weapons sucks the armour don’t move correct etc… then again I don’t read much about it

But if someone comes and says this is wrong and this would be a great way to improve it and that’s a constructive criticism that’s maybe even DICE will read it.

I dint pay for the demo so I cant ask for much and all I ask is to make sure they fixed before the full game is out the only thing that bugs me is why they dint address this on the Beta testing when it was reported? Either way I don’t get the disconnects anymore but I feel for the people thatare having them.

[the_bruce_lee]

Does anybody else on these boards play computer/video games for fun? I see so many posts with people bitching about code writing, EA server side support, true to life realism, AI interaction.... What ever happened to just being entertained? This place is apparantely full of Computer Scientists with nothing better to do than whine about how "inferior" someone else's product is. This is a video game, not some Oracle database your Fortune 500 company is reliant on.

Maybe its just me, but the way I look at it, I'm shelling out money for entertainment. And this game entertains the hell out of me. Sure the code could have been written a little bit better, but is the coding keeping you from having a good time? If it is, then perhaps you should dig up your old C++ books and write your own video game. And then you can quit whining about "faceless corporations" stealing your hard earned cash.

Sorry for the bitchiness in the post, but I just get tired of the e-scientists sometimes. The only reason I'm writing this is cause I'm at work, and can't play the game... :( But as soon as I get home, it's back to the adrenaline rush of boarding and destroying the Titan. Good times...

the whole reason people ***** is because the poorly written code, the bugs and whatever else is keeping them from having a fun time.

[menace-uk-]

Then it sounds like you are not having fun with this game. You should probably find something else to do. The simple answer is that you should go play CS.

but thats just it i love the demo and when i dont disconect i have a whole lot of fun:D

And CS is ****:laugh:

Fact is you did not think about what you was writing and now you have to go on the offensive:laugh:

[ReaperOfsouls]

the whole reason people ***** is because the poorly written code, the bugs and whatever else is keeping them from having a fun time.

There are not that many bugs, just a few (I know it still should be unacceptable but thats just how it is) and they are none that turn the game play into complete crap.

[zuiquan1]

yay he's back:D

[menace-uk-]

not here to defend or complain (much) about EA/DICE but to call this game/demo "the most frustrating game on the planet" cmon u cant be playing that many games or own many of the games with a comment like that, the demo problems is frustrating but to call it the "the most frustrating game on the planet" its a bit over the top. :cool:

Again it’s your opinion so I respect it for that even if I don’t agree.;)

I was not saying 2142 is the most frustrating game on the planet i was just pointing out that when this problems mount up or you have 1 serious problem it can make games frustrating intead of fun and fun is what we all buy games for:D

[goldxp]

the whole reason people ***** is because the poorly written code, the bugs and whatever else is keeping them from having a fun time.

dont want to hijack the tread from IHateYou but i need to reply to your comment.

all i can say is i am not most of you call a hardcore player and only have Score: 34,578 in 358:15:24 so i am not a called hardcore player thats is ON BF2 all the time, but in Bf2142 i dint find any bugs that stop me having fun.

Now the disconnects to the EA master server its was and maybe still is a pain but i dont get them anymore and evertime i am on the field i am having a blast, not saying the bugs dont exit but if there any they are not making me quit the demo and stopping me having fun.

But again i not a guy that likes to explore for bugs i just login and play and have fun. if bf2 or bf2142 is not going it for me i have others games sitting in the box waiting for me.

[Beerman]

Hate you too kiss kiss

[IHateYou]

dont want to hijack the tread from IHateYou but i need to reply to your comment.

all i can say is i am not most of you call a hardcore player and only have Score: 34,578 in 358:15:24 so i am not a called hardcore player thats is ON BF2 all the time, but in Bf2142 i dint find any bugs that stop me having fun.

Now the disconnects to the EA master server its was and maybe still is a pain but i dont get them anymore and evertime i am on the field i am having a blast, not saying the bugs dont exit but if there any they are not making me quit the demo and stopping me having fun.

But again i not a guy that likes to explore for bugs i just login and play and have fun. if bf2 or bf2142 is not going it for me i have others games sitting in the box waiting for me.

That's pretty much what I was trying to say. It's not like there's a bug out there that keeps your gun from firing, or makes your guy spontaneously combust. When you deal with software being used by a huge group of people and every one of them are on a different hardware set, it gets a little hard to narrow down the issues. But I think that for the most part he game is very functional. Maybe I just have low standards, I have been told that before. :D

[Beerman]

Always gonn ahave bugs, if you can make a bugless game you go for it. Till then shut it. (not at you IHateYou just anyone in general)

[Chris_Redfield]

Then like I said, either write your own video game that doesn't suck, or don't buy this one. Quit whining about the problems in this game. If there isn't a challenge here for you, then find something that doesn't bore you to death.

You completely missed my point. What a big surprise.:rolleyes:

To say it in as simple terms as possible, someone already by the way said it-

If the game has bugs that distract you, and ruin your fun, then theres a problem.

So while you preach about playing for fun, other are NOT having fun because they have various bugs. For example I cant have fun on Titan mode because I get horrible lag and all these small bugs on the Titan. Fun? Not if you consider having sex with barbed wire fun..

[menace-uk-]

That's pretty much what I was trying to say. It's not like there's a bug out there that keeps your gun from firing, or makes your guy spontaneously combust. When you deal with software being used by a huge group of people and every one of them are on a different hardware set, it gets a little hard to narrow down the issues. But I think that for the most part he game is very functional. Maybe I just have low standards, I have been told that before. :D

I agree with you that the game has no bugs that will stop you playing and there are less bugs in this demo than in BF2;)

I have only come across 2 bugs

1. the mech slide instaed of walk sometimes(just get out and back in and all is fine)

2.some times from a distance tanks and stuff dissapear( i have a crappy Graph card so this may be my fault)


I dont consider the connection issue a bug since EA said it was there servers that makes it a hardware problem for EA;)

[IHateYou]

You completely missed my point. What a big surprise.:rolleyes:

To say it in as simple terms as possible, someone already by the way said it-

If the game has bugs that distract you, and ruin your fun, then theres a problem.

So while you preach about playing for fun, other are NOT having fun because they have various bugs. For example I cant have fun on Titan mode because I get horrible lag and all these small bugs on the Titan. Fun? Not if you consider having sex with barbed wire fun..

If you get horrible lag, then turn down your settings. Not everyone's computer can run this thing on max, despite how uber l33t you swear your rig is. And the only other small bugs on the Titan I've seen is that I can't get enough people to rush the control room, while I'm spraying down piles of people with my support weapon. And you know what? Every person I shot down said they were "lagging horribly". If the bugs are too much for you, then please move on to a less buggy game. Don't steer people away from this game by making it seem like some half-a$$ed effort in an attempt to take your money. It's a good game, despite it's little quirks.

[Chris_Redfield]

If you get horrible lag, then turn down your settings. Not everyone's computer can run this thing on max, despite how uber l33t you swear your rig is. And the only other small bugs on the Titan I've seen is that I can't get enough people to rush the control room, while I'm spraying down piles of people with my support weapon. And you know what? Every person I shot down said they were "lagging horribly". If the bugs are too much for you, then please move on to a less buggy game. Don't steer people away from this game by making it seem like some half-a$$ed effort in an attempt to take your money. It's a good game, despite it's little quirks.

First of all, why is it that I get 50 FPS and no lag on the land and I do get lag on the Titan? I play on all low, and my system meets the minimum requirements. Wow, nice landing on your @SS with that 1337 comment, Bob.

Secondly, I was talking in general terms that bugs distract people from enjoying the game. Allright, so they dont distract you- heres my advice, STFU and play the game. Enjoy it for all I care, but just because you have no problems with it, doesnt mean you should have a go at people who DO have problems with the game.

Thirdly, "its a good game" is simply your opinion, and so far, you havent provided any evidence as to why its such a good game. Your opinion however is worth just as much as anyone wants it to be worth. For me, its zero.

And finally, whatever Ive said till now, I am a forgiving person and bugs and such dont break my game. Lucky for me, there are plenty of non-Titan servers and I have no doubt that soon most servers will enforce the "DO NOT MOVE THE TITAN OR KICK!" rule. Ill continue to play the game, simply because Im willing to give it another shot at really binding me into it. If it fails, then it was a bad game for me and Ill move on, or back.

But these are forums, where people talk about specific subjects. And while some people think that you can only say good things about their beloved game (also known as "fanboys"), others have mixed feelings about the game and they are not afraid to discuss both negative aspects aswell as positive aspects.

[Deadpoetic]

AI Interraction?!!?!? in a BF game!?!?!?

[IHateYou]

AI Interraction?!!?!? in a BF game!?!?!?

Your BF game does come with a singleplayer mode.....

[IHateYou]

First of all, why is it that I get 50 FPS and no lag on the land and I do get lag on the Titan? I play on all low, and my system meets the minimum requirements. Wow, nice landing on your @SS with that 1337 comment, Bob.

Secondly, I was talking in general terms that bugs distract people from enjoying the game. Allright, so they dont distract you- heres my advice, STFU and play the game. Enjoy it for all I care, but just because you have no problems with it, doesnt mean you should have a go at people who DO have problems with the game.

Thirdly, "its a good game" is simply your opinion, and so far, you havent provided any evidence as to why its such a good game. Your opinion however is worth just as much as anyone wants it to be worth. For me, its zero.

And finally, whatever Ive said till now, I am a forgiving person and bugs and such dont break my game. Lucky for me, there are plenty of non-Titan servers and I have no doubt that soon most servers will enforce the "DO NOT MOVE THE TITAN OR KICK!" rule. Ill continue to play the game, simply because Im willing to give it another shot at really binding me into it. If it fails, then it was a bad game for me and Ill move on, or back.

But these are forums, where people talk about specific subjects. And while some people think that you can only say good things about their beloved game (also known as "fanboys"), others have mixed feelings about the game and they are not afraid to discuss both negative aspects aswell as positive aspects.

First, I didn't post this thread towards any person in particular. But you jumped into the driver's seat of the all-knowing-mobile, so let's just run with it.

Secondly, bugs do distract me, sometimes. But they don't make me angry. I don't log off the game to go spend my time venting my anger by bashing the game on a forum. (the only reason I'm typing this is cause I'm at work. If I wasn't, I'd be playing the game.) While the demo is a good tool for people to decide whether or not to buy this game, so are these boards. People that come here to get a feel for the community's response to the game get an earful of the angry minority. All the happy people are busy playing the game. Hopefully my post will help balance some of that negative input.

Thirdly, yes it is my opinion. And your opinion is yours. And neither one of us is a columnist in PC Gamer. So lets not pretend to know more than we really do.

Finally, you don't sound like a very forgiving person. The trend in your posts makes it seem like the bugs they are having is unforgivable, and that they are undeserving of you as a consumer.

These are forums, and this is just a game. It's meant to bring you enjoyment. It's not a test. It's not a scam. And nobody is forcing you to do anything. Pointing out bugs is one thing. But pointing out bugs and then throwing blame around and bashing the entire game is just dumb. And again, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the trend of negative bashing threads as of late. Nothing personal.

[Chris_Redfield]

It is my, as a gamers experience that description found in negative reviews is far mode detailed and accurate than in positive reviews. Of games. In forums.
You make it sound as if negative feedback is overwhelming and isnt fair. Its not the case.

Thirdly, yes it is my opinion. And your opinion is yours. And neither one of us is a columnist in PC Gamer. So lets not pretend to know more than we really do.

Funny thing is, you sure do act like one! :laugh:

Finally, you don't sound like a very forgiving person. The trend in your posts makes it seem like the bugs they are having is unforgivable, and that they are undeserving of you as a consumer.

The only thing in BF2142 I have a real problem with, is hovercrafts handling, namely them being too easy to use. Walkers leg slide issue? Pheh, just stop for a second, its gone. No problems. Lag inside the Titan? Meh, Im sure, if DICE wont fix it, servers will make a "NO TITAN MOVE" rule. And a ton of others. I can create a very heated argument, but once I play, bugs dont really distract me and I give DICE the credit for creating such a complex game, by not complaining about the development issues and bugs. Because the game is really big and detailed.

That doesnt mean I will shut my mouth up and dont talk about it. Its a forum, we chit-chat.

These are forums, and this is just a game. It's meant to bring you enjoyment. It's not a test. It's not a scam. And nobody is forcing you to do anything. Pointing out bugs is one thing. But pointing out bugs and then throwing blame around and bashing the entire game is just dumb. And again, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the trend of negative bashing threads as of late. Nothing personal.

Quote me where I said the game sucks, blows and is a total failure.

Quite me where I demanded certain bug fixes.

All the negative (which is not much. Just jets) issues I have, coupled with the feeling of not being impressed, Ive given balanced positive feedback, which is a very tactical (restricted for some) infantry based combat, which I really like. Players from CS will hate it because it relies less on skill. Players from RavenShield will probably like it because thinking is a major factor in infantry combat, thanks to map design.

[Digikid]

Does anybody else on these boards play computer/video games for fun? I see so many posts with people bitching about code writing, EA server side support, true to life realism, AI interaction.... What ever happened to just being entertained? This place is apparantely full of Computer Scientists with nothing better to do than whine about how "inferior" someone else's product is. This is a video game, not some Oracle database your Fortune 500 company is reliant on.

Maybe its just me, but the way I look at it, I'm shelling out money for entertainment. And this game entertains the hell out of me. Sure the code could have been written a little bit better, but is the coding keeping you from having a good time? If it is, then perhaps you should dig up your old C++ books and write your own video game. And then you can quit whining about "faceless corporations" stealing your hard earned cash.

Sorry for the bitchiness in the post, but I just get tired of the e-scientists sometimes. The only reason I'm writing this is cause I'm at work, and can't play the game... :( But as soon as I get home, it's back to the adrenaline rush of boarding and destroying the Titan. Good times...

FINALLY a real gamer. Best post ever dude and 100% true. Well Done! :cool:

[stilla-killa]

i think some poeple are mad b/c they cant rape everyone and get godly scores with there jets like in bf2. i dont think air whores will find this game very fun. i for one cant wait for the retail to come out.

[ledbythereaper]

I play games for fun and that is it but it is hard to have fun if you keep getting diconected:laugh:

because of EA's master server:rolleyes:

Think it could be related to the UT2004 master server?

[Killerus]

hats off to the op! i have felt the same way. Serioulsy people if it is that bad, then for your own sanity please move on. The rest of us are having fun and could really care less that you think the game is a laggy POS.

Last time i checked games were made by companies and people bought them. For some reason the entire BF community thinks that EA/DICE is working for them. Sorry, but thats not the way it is. The company has the final say on the game, not the community. They have a made a pretty decent game, so either get onboard or get out of the way :)

Another thing that i hear people say that is annoying is how EA/DICE is out to get your money. Duh, yes they are. Its called capitalism. Their job is to put out product and make money like any other company.

[IHateYou]

Quote me where I said the game sucks, blows and is a total failure.

Quite me where I demanded certain bug fixes.


What part of "I wasn't talking about you" did you not understand?

[Chris_Redfield]

What part of "I wasn't talking about you" did you not understand?

Then why did you quote me? :rolleyes:

[IHateYou]

Then why did you quote me? :rolleyes:

Because "Delete previous comment" wasn't an option.

[centepede]

I hate you...lol. people post here because thats what a forum is for. Wether it be positive or negative. Everyone has a right to ***** and complain. Is that not what you are also doing by creating this thread. You are bitching and complaining about how other people ***** and complain...lol....think about it. I also noticed that you brought up the " I'm only posting cause I I'm at work and I have nothing better to do." Yeah, I've used that one my self too...lol. I love these forums. It gives me an outlet to express my self and vent if I have to. So stop you CRYING and your MOANING and and go play the damn game already!!!!!...lol. Ohhh sorry, I forgot your at work...lol.(yeah right)

[IHateYou]

I hate you...lol. people post here because thats what a forum is for. Wether it be positive or negative. Everyone has a right to ***** and complain. Is that not what you are also doing by creating this thread. You are bitching and complaining about how other people ***** and complain...lol....think about it. I also noticed that you brought up the " I'm only posting cause I I'm at work and I have nothing better to do." Yeah, I've used that one my self too...lol. I love these forums. It gives me an outlet to express my self and vent if I have to. So stop you CRYING and your MOANING and and go play the damn game already!!!!!...lol. Ohhh sorry, I forgot your at work...lol.(yeah right)

No seriously, I am at work. I get off in 3 hours, and all I can think about is playing BF. And I know I'm whining by making this thread, but I'm whining in the other direction. See? I'm just trying to balance things out. I already said that. A lot of threads have popped up about how some people think this game is bug-ridden and a cheap effort on Dice/EA's part, so I wanted to start a thread promoting the entertainment value of this game. Plus I'm bored. Cause I'm at work. (Seriously, I am.)

[step2ice]

I'm absolutely in the enjoying the game part.

The problem is if there are technical problems.
It's not always the buy better hardware solution if you already have good hardware.
I really like what DICE has done with BF.
And there are so many ppl. around cause there is no real alternative to hang on.
Plus, since QW has delayed to 2007 and something there is still a big gapping hole besides BF.

A soon as there is a little competition to BF you will see that:

a, The franchise will get technically much more polished

or

b, disappears

I never complained about the game content.
When I complained it was always something related to the technical quality of the game.

And yes BF games are fun and thats why I always played them.
But on the other hand there is a limit on how much I'm willing to tolerate till I'm pissed.
CTDs, bad performance, server browser, lag, server downtimes etc.

So far BF2 had cost me many many hours of tweaking, loading screens, lag, disconnects etc. but I also had fun, yeah.

But I'm surely won't get through this kinda odyssey a second time.

Bf2142 has improved in a lot of ways.
But it also hurts when you see the same problems over and over.

Lag and bad performance in BF history.

BF 1942.
In the first weeks of the retail release the lag was so badly that you would get 1 second set backs.

BFV

Remeber the Ho Chi Minh Trail?

On that temple it was laggy, choppy and nearly unplayable.

Houses and props were a problem in every BF game.
The engine just couldn't handle it right.
SF the Iron Gator map, same lagfest, nearly unplayable on 64 player servers and bearly on 32.
And now you see the same exact problem with the Titan.
Don't you think that this is a little strange!?

BF2 was the first game which was somehow polished when it came out.
It ran ok.

But then came SF and with it a content patch and BF2 was srewed.
SF itself was also more on the problem than fun side.


As I already said in a other topic I'll wait and watch player reviews and then decide.
That will save me a lot of headache.

I think thats enough typing for today. :salute:

[stilla-killa]

yea most of the time all u see are threads about how crappy bf2 and bf2142 is but most of them still play the game. it is refreshing to see a positive thread once and awhile. i myself have only had minor problems with bf2 and i still play and love it. now alot of these people that get mad and curse ea/dice b/c bf2 or bf2142 wont work on there computers. maybe they need to check there end to see if they are doing something wrong instead of blaming ea/dice. i for one have not a quarell with ea and in fact i love most ea games. Madden football, Command and conquer, most racing games, i could go on and on. it just seems like most people want to complain i think its part of human nature or maybe its today society and how parents bring up their kids, giving them everything they ask for which in turn they cry if they dont get what they want and then start complaining. hell throw a fit for all care it wont stop me from playing what i deam as 2 of the greatest FPS of all time.

[Lavadisk]

Does anybody else on these boards play computer/video games for fun? I see so many posts with people bitching about code writing, EA server side support, true to life realism, AI interaction.... What ever happened to just being entertained? This place is apparantely full of Computer Scientists with nothing better to do than whine about how "inferior" someone else's product is. This is a video game, not some Oracle database your Fortune 500 company is reliant on.

Maybe its just me, but the way I look at it, I'm shelling out money for entertainment. And this game entertains the hell out of me. Sure the code could have been written a little bit better, but is the coding keeping you from having a good time? If it is, then perhaps you should dig up your old C++ books and write your own video game. And then you can quit whining about "faceless corporations" stealing your hard earned cash.

Sorry for the bitchiness in the post, but I just get tired of the e-scientists sometimes. The only reason I'm writing this is cause I'm at work, and can't play the game... :( But as soon as I get home, it's back to the adrenaline rush of boarding and destroying the Titan. Good times...

You win.
so many posts about how 'ea is ripping me off because my computer is bad when i play a titan ship' or 'ea Is the worst WAHHWAHHH WAHHH' or even
'Omg THIS GAME IS A MOD, I WANT MY MONIEZ BAK PLZ'

[IHateYou]

You win.
so many posts about how 'ea is ripping me off because my computer is bad when i play a titan ship' or 'ea Is the worst WAHHWAHHH WAHHH' or even
'Omg THIS GAME IS A MOD, I WANT MY MONIEZ BAK PLZ'

Did you hear that Chris? I win. HAHAHA!!! I win, I win, I win. Nanny nanny boo boo..... sucker.

[CarbonFire]

I think some of the points are being missed here. IHATEYOU, youre right, its a game for fun, theres a LOT of potential for fun in this game. I think if this game didnt have BF2 as its predecessor we would be giving EA/DICE a lot more slack in terms of expecting patches and other fixes to some of the current issues.

BUT right now DICE is proving to the community that they are approaching 2142 exactly as they did with BF2: a very slow trickle of patches that probably break more things than they fix. They are getting ready to release this game retail, with no doubt all of the little bugs we've seen in the demo intact. Some are more annoying and reduce the fun of gameplay, some are merely minor annoyances. The fact alone that the demo is in the current state that its in gives me pause for purchasing the full game, given DICE's history of support.

Do I think you can't have fun with this game? NO. Theres quite a bit of fun to be had, and it will be interesting to see how unlocks play into it (if I ever do end up and purchase). But I think there would be a whole lot MORE fun to be had if little things like lag in titans and Walker physics were fixed. I just don't expect them to, which is unfortunate for everyone, both for-fun pubber and competitive gamer alike.

[Chris_Redfield]

Did you hear that Chris? I win. HAHAHA!!! I win, I win, I win. Nanny nanny boo boo..... sucker.
LOL... idiot. Go check your first post again, and check my response.

[simjay]

Does anybody else on these boards play computer/video games for fun? I see so many posts with people bitching about code writing, EA server side support, true to life realism, AI interaction.... What ever happened to just being entertained? This place is apparantely full of Computer Scientists with nothing better to do than whine about how "inferior" someone else's product is. This is a video game, not some Oracle database your Fortune 500 company is reliant on.

Maybe its just me, but the way I look at it, I'm shelling out money for entertainment. And this game entertains the hell out of me. Sure the code could have been written a little bit better, but is the coding keeping you from having a good time? If it is, then perhaps you should dig up your old C++ books and write your own video game. And then you can quit whining about "faceless corporations" stealing your hard earned cash.

Sorry for the bitchiness in the post, but I just get tired of the e-scientists sometimes. The only reason I'm writing this is cause I'm at work, and can't play the game... :( But as soon as I get home, it's back to the adrenaline rush of boarding and destroying the Titan. Good times...

Well Said.

[[MyIS]Spetsnaz]

Meh, gamers are just spoiled nowadays. When I play the game I'm constantly amazed at all of the effects, features, dynamics and such that I don't pay attention to most of the stuff people are complaining about. Sure, I'd love if some things were changed but I would prefer that DICE make the game completely from their own vision - that's what makes games great.

The reason BF1942 was the best game in this series is because DICE had a fresh start and didn't have to impress anyone. Everything came off of the dome with no community influence and the game was amazing. The only way this series can survive is if DICE goes back to the basics and does things the way they want to, without super duper game balance professionals breathing down their neck.

Asking people to write their own game is a bit silly...

... asking them to make a mod isn't silly at all. If they want to the game to be a certain way, how about modding it? That's what Forgotten Hope did for BF1942 and people are still playing it every day.

Those that do the massive complaint posts should really start a mod and not necessarily make new models and skins, but at first try to edit the game balance and tweak the game characteristics. As they grow in community and have dedicated fans, I'd like to see how they handle it...

[menace-uk-]

with no community influence and the game was amazing. The only way this series can survive is if DICE goes back to the basics and does things the way they want to, without super duper game balance professionals breathing down their neck.


That is the main problem with the game community influence:eek:

I understand feedback and suggestions are important to a game such as the BF franchise but Dice should be a bit more srong minded or stuborn and just well that's a good suggestion but we dont think the game needs that or something to that effect;)

I think the community influence is what ruined BF2 for me:cry:

The retail version for me was perfect but then all the complaints about the Blackhawk being overpowered poured in and Dice changed it,ok that was fine it was a bit overpowered and it did not ruin the game,so then it came to Jets and AA and they ****ed that up :cry:

Then comes all the little stuff that on there own was fine but all together took it's toll of the game and opened up more problems and then the Flack from the community continues:hmm:

I think Dice was trying to Fix too much too quick which resulted in the poor patches which ruined the game for alot of people:cry:

I hope Dice don't do gameplay changes this time around and just concentrate on the bugs/Glitches:D

Hope that makes sense:evil:

[Chris_Redfield]

The more the community gets, the more they want. DICE became trapped into an odd loop. BF2.4 is something completely different than BF2.0.

[Sethonan]

The titan lag "glithcing" hen moved is very server dependant and also depends on your connection, not your graphic card. I've lpayed servers where moving titans were not an issue, and played titan servers where even if you are NOT in the titan it still lags the server horribly.

I've played my share of demo conquest servers that lag stupidly, crash for no reason, disconnect random players, and the suspicious servers where if you suddenly kill 4 people in a row disconnect you.

Specifically for Chris: You have been told that if your only gripe is the handling of aircraft, and it comes from a PERSONAL opinion on how it's handling is fun, no matter what somebody else says; not using the pilot "community" as an excuse and you have decided it's not fun FOR YOU, that you better stay clear off the game and stop bashing it, everyone else who isn't anal about gunships is having fun.

compared to many console and PC games out there, BF2142 is a pile of programming crap near the status of newly graphical engine released by iD soft. Yet compared with past iterations of the same franchise it is a step forward technically. and you expect a newly rleased game, with a tweaked engine to be bug free?

the remaining bugs are mildly annoying, like the hit detection under heavy lag, or the server unstability moving the titan causes in some servers.

Have you tried everyserver in the list chris?

cos I've found some high level play ones, can't name them off the top of my head; and also have found depressing noobfests full of people that you can tell it's their first FPS ever. The same as skill levels change from server to server, so does hardware stability; hop around, don't root yourself to a single server.

*expects the retort where Chris states he has played every server and that every server in the list has the exact same issues.*

[Chris_Redfield]

Way to go assuming some random crap again, Joe. Ive said it before, flying is basically the only real problem I have with the game. And I actually said before, that the lag issues seem to be server side proplems. So far Ive had a 50/50 chance of finding good and bad server, but I always get relatively low FPS on the Titans. Ive also said that the game is generally unsurprising and doesnt blow me away. Its a playable game, and as a tactical FPS player I enjoy the pressure put on tactical infantry play from DICE. Im also pretty forgiving when it comes to minor bugs as Battlefield is a HUGE game.

[Sethonan]

Try to run it with everything on high even if it becomes un playable, and for christ sake upgrade your video card to something that allows you to run it with steady 60 fps... when I get "bad" titan lag and glitching I rarely go under 30 fps, and that's still playable.

I just simply can't believe people is berating the titan mode because they are running it on GeForces MX4400 and 512 MB of RAM. Of course it's gonna get laggy! It's a cramped little space full of specular glow and dynamic lightning.


This is what I don't get Chris. Generally when something upsets you this bad, either you suck it up, or you walk away. But staying and bitching really drives people crazy.

I know I stood clear from doom3 because of this very same reason. Even with all the eyecandy on, it failed to impress me gameplay wise. Do you see me over at the Doom3 games forums bitching around the inability to mount the flash light on the shotgun? It was a game breaker for me; so I stopped playing it. I didn't go to iD and complain to them to get the thing implemented. I also didn't bother to get the hack to do it in single player.

I missed BF1942, played my fair share of BFV, then got all giddy with the release of BF2, wich I have played on and off; the premise still pumps me up, but the execution is piss poor at best. BF2 is unbalanced, glitchy and more or less stable since last patch. There are a lot of things I don't like about BF2. I just don't go in the forums asking people to change what I don't like, I just accept them as gameplay mechanics.

I'm not a big fan of dolphin diving; yet I am aware that in order to survive in some servers, it's the only way to go. Same for vehicle whoring.

And you know what? I prefer the infantry side of the game more, since BFV where it wasn't as balanced as it is now. and I pretty much play Karkand most of the time, since Kubra Dam wich is my favorite map is hardly on rotation; and ypou knkow why it is my favorite? Because it's pretty much the only map in BF2 where it is possible to employ real tactics against aircraftand vehicles; and air superiority depends a lot on true skill from th epilot; unlike Wake that has everything nice and flat; and you can go circles forever and never worry about AA. Oman has the most stupid AA emplacements of all maps. Zatar is too big for infantry and has not enough transports. Sharqui is manageable since you only have to worry about choppers.

Kubra has it all: enough places to get cover under, nice sniping spots, open grounds for assault matches, enough vehicles to get around; if MEC had an uncapable it'd be perfect.

so what's my point? you can't always get to play on Kubra, no matter how much you whine, so either you suck it up and play whatever rotation there is, play Karkand 24/7 or go ***** your heart out, no one is going to listen to you anyways.

I still want my tunguskain Mashtuur.

[Dippers]

Does anybody else on these boards play computer/video games for fun? I see so many posts with people bitching about code writing, EA server side support, true to life realism, AI interaction.... What ever happened to just being entertained? This place is apparantely full of Computer Scientists with nothing better to do than whine about how "inferior" someone else's product is. This is a video game, not some Oracle database your Fortune 500 company is reliant on.

Maybe its just me, but the way I look at it, I'm shelling out money for entertainment. And this game entertains the hell out of me. Sure the code could have been written a little bit better, but is the coding keeping you from having a good time? If it is, then perhaps you should dig up your old C++ books and write your own video game. And then you can quit whining about "faceless corporations" stealing your hard earned cash.

Sorry for the bitchiness in the post, but I just get tired of the e-scientists sometimes. The only reason I'm writing this is cause I'm at work, and can't play the game... :( But as soon as I get home, it's back to the adrenaline rush of boarding and destroying the Titan. Good times...

Exactly. i think some people are ton picky and compain for the slightest thing. I don't go playing games so i can find bugs and then go onto the forums saying this game suck or its crap or there to many bugs. Most of the time its is today with you computer not the game. I go onto a game to chill out after a hard day work and have fun.

[Chris_Redfield]

This is what I don't get Chris. Generally when something upsets you this bad, either you suck it up, or you walk away. But staying and bitching really drives people crazy.

The only thing that upsets me is the lack of need for skill in flight. Thats pretty much it. Why get all bent over what I dislike? Its not like I create posts like "BF2142 sucks!!!!11!".

I cant be all happy and merry like a fanboy on candy.

[Maxi~]

Does anybody else on these boards play computer/video games for fun? I see so many posts with people bitching about code writing, EA server side support, true to life realism, AI interaction.... What ever happened to just being entertained? This place is apparantely full of Computer Scientists with nothing better to do than whine about how "inferior" someone else's product is. This is a video game, not some Oracle database your Fortune 500 company is reliant on.

Maybe its just me, but the way I look at it, I'm shelling out money for entertainment. And this game entertains the hell out of me. Sure the code could have been written a little bit better, but is the coding keeping you from having a good time? If it is, then perhaps you should dig up your old C++ books and write your own video game. And then you can quit whining about "faceless corporations" stealing your hard earned cash.

Sorry for the bitchiness in the post, but I just get tired of the e-scientists sometimes. The only reason I'm writing this is cause I'm at work, and can't play the game... :( But as soon as I get home, it's back to the adrenaline rush of boarding and destroying the Titan. Good times...

Why do you feel that everyone is like this. I most certinaly am not like that and have never really had a problem with the game, i don't whine or moan about glitches etc. I just want to play the game. So please don't talk as if everyone is not in the same boat as you because fact is, theres more members in your boat than you think.