"2142 Sucks" - Consider before Posting

[FC000]

For all of those who have posted threads regarding 2142 and how much it "Sucks" read on.

Consider this, Every new game has it's own Learning Curve. Some games you can pick up on instantly, others require you to take some effort to learn how to play.

No ones a pro in the first hour of playing a game, its called a Learning Curve...

This game is not an extension of BF2, and as such, should be treated like a new game with new gameplay mechanics. Take the time to learn the game, and if you don't want to, then simply dont.

Stop trying to impose your opinion of the game as facts. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it needs to be changed.

I respect the opinions of all those who post on this forum, as do the rest of the TotalBF2142 team. As long as its constructive, the post is here to stay, but otherwise, the Moderators will lock the thread. Remember this the next time you make a post.

[TheCheeZe]

Well said.:D

[Digikid]

Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chasepwner]

FC;60162']For all of those who have posted threads regarding 2142 and how much it "Sucks" read on.

Consider this, Every new game has it's own Learning Curve. Some games you can pick up on instantly, others require you to take some effort to learn how to play.

No ones a pro in the first hour of playing a game, its called a Learning Curve...

This game is not an extension of BF2, and as such, should be treated like a new game with new gameplay mechanics. Take the time to learn the game, and if you don't want to, then simply dont.

Stop trying to impose your opinion of the game as facts. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it needs to be changed.

I respect the opinions of all those who post on this forum, as do the rest of the TotalBF2142 team. As long as its constructive, the post is here to stay, but otherwise, the Moderators will lock the thread. Remember this the next time you make a post.

Agreed 100%. Not because you're a [MyIS] guy, but because your statement totally makes sense... I'm sick of reading posts about how much the game sucks because it is 'slow' or 'an expansion'.

[The Gatekeeper]

You know why this game is bad to me? It's because everybody is saying "BF2142 ******* SUCKS!", when it does not. I completely agree with you here. I've had around 5 hours to play this demo and I can see all good points, and some slightly annoying points. Now to post my rant for the demo...

[moltenblack]

This game is not meant to be BF2.

Nough said!

[PuertoRecon]

Hopefully people will read this thread. I'm fed up with the 2142 is a mod and "zomgZ tis game is teh suxorz!!".

:rolleyes:

[Adval]

It's very good to see a sticky about this. People are entitled to their opinion, but if you're going to critize the game, do it constructively. ;)

[Beerman]

Should lock and ban, sick of those whiners.

[Shask]

FC;60162']For all of those who have posted threads regarding 2142 and how much it "Sucks" read on.

Consider this, Every new game has it's own Learning Curve. Some games you can pick up on instantly, others require you to take some effort to learn how to play.

No ones a pro in the first hour of playing a game, its called a Learning Curve...

This game is not an extension of BF2, and as such, should be treated like a new game with new gameplay mechanics. Take the time to learn the game, and if you don't want to, then simply dont.

Stop trying to impose your opinion of the game as facts. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it needs to be changed.

I respect the opinions of all those who post on this forum, as do the rest of the TotalBF2142 team. As long as its constructive, the post is here to stay, but otherwise, the Moderators will lock the thread. Remember this the next time you make a post.

Wtf, I am. Good post anyway ;)

[Nefarious]

And the same goes for the opposite. Forcing people to think the game is good as well. Lets not be bais. Some will infact get use to it and then realize its faults. Not saying its a bad game, just trying to be fair.

[ToxicVega]

Well said, every is entitled to there opinion, however, don't force it upon us. Tell us what you think, but don't go around b**ching because you think it should be this or that. If you think it should be different join a mod team, or make your own game!!!

[ReaperOfsouls]

FC;60162']For all of those who have posted threads regarding 2142 and how much it "Sucks" read on.

Consider this, Every new game has it's own Learning Curve. Some games you can pick up on instantly, others require you to take some effort to learn how to play.

No ones a pro in the first hour of playing a game, its called a Learning Curve...

This game is not an extension of BF2, and as such, should be treated like a new game with new gameplay mechanics. Take the time to learn the game, and if you don't want to, then simply dont.

Stop trying to impose your opinion of the game as facts. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it needs to be changed.

I respect the opinions of all those who post on this forum, as do the rest of the TotalBF2142 team. As long as its constructive, the post is here to stay, but otherwise, the Moderators will lock the thread. Remember this the next time you make a post.

Could not of said it better my self, if you have a belif on something that give reasons why adn back up your argument.

Threads that are like "this game sucks" are a waste of time because there is no reasoning what so ever, just a statement with no facts or logic.

[SP33D]

OK
Roger That

[vbl]

It still sucks.

[menace-uk-]

It is about time all this 2142 demo sucks thread's were addresed:D

And i agree with the post 100%;)

[Digikid]

It still sucks.

S...T...F...U.:mad:

[DeathEchoDemon]

ya its just a demo people, its not gonna be the best thing you've ever played.

[Ice Wolf]

yeah, at first I had issues sniping, now sniper drift is non-existant, and I've hit people after there models have disappeared.

learn to play has never been more applicable then now

[Maxi~]

It still sucks.

Please, for gods sake Admins. Ban these whiners.

[e-genesis]

n. pl. fo·rums, also fo·ra (f�r, fr) A public meeting place for open discussion.

YES It says OPEN DISCUSSION.

By the way, are you a programmer on EA -> "should be treated like a new game with new gameplay mechanics." New game???? I have not heard about any new engine for BF2142. Please google for BF2142 engine and also try Unreal 3 engine and compare the hits. I want to see "a" review on this new BF2142's "engine". Tweaking the old engine does not make the game new ;) I can pay 10 bucks for this new MOD (well u can call it new game, good for you, I am not trying to change your opinion) else I am staying with BF2.

[ninja720]

this is a BF2142 gaming community let them take there crap somewhere eles

[MrBenis]

All I will say is, the demo isn't as intense as BF2.

The final game will be different naturally, as with the beta, how it was also better, due to the added options (and.. grenades).

Currently my only gripe is the sniper rifles.

[HankScorpio]

i welcome the change, even if it sux in comparison to for example. "when bf2 came out"...

but the fact that they changed the gameplay and the futuristc apect is great....i am enjoying the demo very much and expect to enjoy the full version as well..

gg :)

[Bubas]

After reading the "sux" threads I became a little affraid that the game was bad, and in the begining I also thought that the infantary movement was a little clunky, but after a while I got used to it and now I am enjoying the game a lot.
The ships and Walker are fun to play, the only aspect of the game that I am not enjoying much is the hoover tanks, but in a few weeks piloting that thing will be second nature to me, or at least that´s what I hope.

[kj23kjg1234l124]

bf2142: works in theory.

[IHateYou]

bf2142: works in theory.

Coming from the guy who came up with a forum user name by bashing his head into the keyboard.

[TboneLongshank]

bf 2142 IS ****ING AWSOME i dont get why ppl would say it sux? imo they hav no skillz :p basically its the best game ive played yet im realy looking foward to playing it :D and sounds awsome EA ans DICE did an outstanding jod well done ;) p.s. it has better gun fights way better im proud of EA and DICE

[Sethonan]

By the way, are you a programmer on EA -> "should be treated like a new game with new gameplay mechanics." New game???? I have not heard about any new engine for BF2142. Please google for BF2142 engine and also try Unreal 3 engine and compare the hits. I want to see "a" review on this new BF2142's "engine". Tweaking the old engine does not make the game new ;) I can pay 10 bucks for this new MOD (well u can call it new game, good for you, I am not trying to change your opinion) else I am staying with BF2.


Open discussion is one things; senseless bashing is another.

"It should be treated like a new game" refers to the fact that weapons, vehicles, collision boxes and physics work completely different to the ones in BF2 even tough the game uses the same engine, and you have to re learn everything in order to score well. POE2 is an entirely different affair from BF2 even tough it is a TOTAL CONVERSION MOD.

And it has been said time and again: If your complaints are that it uses the same graphic engine that BF2, this game has enough eye candy to justify calling it everything but a mod.

Everyone is free to say they don't like the game for whatever reason as long as it is a valid reason backed up by facts and not opinions.

[LahLahSr]

bf 2142 IS ****ING AWSOME i dont get why ppl would say it sux? imo they hav no skillz :p basically its the best game ive played yet im realy looking foward to playing it :D and sounds awsome EA ans DICE did an outstanding jod well done ;) p.s. it has better gun fights way better im proud of EA and DICE

In the interest of fairness and equality, similarly biased and overly positive posts should be subject to the same thread-locking as the negative ones. They are equally "useless" in terms of providing players with any information that can enhance the perception/understanding of the game itself.

That being said, I personally prefer something positive than negative, even if it is unsubstantiated. Of course, both the positive and the negative posters find it hard to resist the temptation to aim some sort of insult towards those who disagree, so it's still a case of spreading unwarranted venom.

A purely unsubstantiated emotional post about how anyone "positiviely luuuuves" or "completely and utterly haaates" any game, is forum-noise if it is not substantiated with why and how the game makes you feel one way or the other. Even better if it can be assisted by constructive suggestions as to what could be done to improve things.

Cheers :-)

[Zandog]

FC;60162']This game is not an extension of BF2, and as such, should be treated like a new game with new gameplay mechanics.

Infact, the game is an exact extention of BF2, based on the same engine, game mechanics and nothing more than new skins and game types. It's smart to get your facts straight before warning people about how they post.

FC;60162']Stop trying to impose your opinion of the game as facts. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it needs to be changed.

True. Noone should ever post based on what they consider fact. But unfortunately, that would eliminate almost every post concerning vertually every game on the net. Based on fact and opinion being blurred so well on the internet, anyone who knows the web should also know to take what's said on it with a grain of salt. Everyones got an opinion and your not going to stop anyone from expressing it. Even if they consider it fact.


FC;60162']I respect the opinions of all those who post on this forum, as do the rest of the TotalBF2142 team. As long as its constructive, the post is here to stay, but otherwise, the Moderators will lock the thread. Remember this the next time you make a post.

This is a Bush regime like threat to anyone using these forums that they can't form an opposing opinion or even rant. Obviously saying that you respect all opinions of those who post and then saying as long as it's constructive. It's dictative and manipulative at the least.

It would be in the best interest of MyIS to just delete and forget this post ever happened. IMO

[Ruff Hunter]

This is a Bush regime like threat to anyone using these forums that they can't form an opposing opinion or even rant. Obviously saying that you respect all opinions of those who post and then saying as long as it's constructive. It's dictative and manipulative at the least.


I have to agree with zandog on that one, what you're saying is a bit like when it was the WWI or WWII, when every thing said on public bord or newspaper were every thing needed to be check out by the authorities before it when live. It's a bit like that now if you are saying taht "Yeah i agree that people can have their opinion BUT if anything goes wrong... Moderators will lock or delete the post"

I'm pretty sure taht we doesn't live in a world like that anymore anybody is free to explain their opinion.

That'S waht i think and i'm giving you my opinion only!

Cheers,
Ruff Hunter

[Sethonan]

Infact, the game is an exact extention of BF2, based on the same engine, game mechanics and nothing more than new skins and game types. It's smart to get your facts straight before warning people about how they post.


By that light, Lineage 2 is a mod and the same game unreal tournament 2003 is. Never mind the fact one is an FPS and the other an MMO; following that line of tought, UT2004 is nothing more than the exact same game that's UT2003, given that it uses the same engine with a little tweaking, more skins, a couple of new modes of gameplay and VoIP.

The reason they are locking bashing threads is because they go in circles; the whiners want the very same mechanics present in BF2, since it would be easier to "port over skillz"; yet they also complain everything is a "reskin". You just can't make people happy. If hovers handled like choppers they'd say "oh it's the same thing BF2 is", yet the hovers handle entirely differently and they go "SUXXORZ this is nothing like BF2".

[Sir. Tasty]

thanks for keeping the noob-spamming down . if ppl hate the game , then why come to the forums and play it..

[menace-uk-]

thanks for keeping the noob-spamming down . if ppl hate the game , then why come to the forums and play it..

Exactley if you hate the game why keep posting on a forum dediated to the game you hate:confused: :laugh:

[ninja720]

bf 2142 IS ****ING AWSOME i dont get why ppl would say it sux? imo they hav no skillz :p basically its the best game ive played yet im realy looking foward to playing it :D and sounds awsome EA ans DICE did an outstanding jod well done ;) p.s. it has better gun fights way better im proud of EA and DICE

i agree :D > well said<

[e-genesis]

[Open discussion is one things; senseless bashing is another. -> opinions fall in discussion, I believe whoever started this thread is bashing, he/she is the one disaggreeing.

"It should be treated like a new game" refers to the fact that weapons, vehicles, collision boxes and physics work completely different to the ones in BF2 even tough the game uses the same engine(yes that buggy one), and you have to re learn everything in order to score well. POE2 is an entirely different affair from BF2 even tough it is a TOTAL CONVERSION MOD. -> So that mean BF2142 is a MOD??

And it has been said time and again: If your complaints are that it uses the same graphic engine that BF2, this game has enough eye candy to justify calling it everything but a mod. Eye candy?? Please look at the mods at http://www.doomlab.com/bf2topmods/ They are eye candy too, so that makes all the MOD a completely new game.

Everyone is free to say they don't like the game for whatever reason as long as it is a valid reason backed up by facts and not opinions. -> Next time please look at the description of the thread before posting and see what it says -> "I respect the opinions of all those"

By the way, I still need to get link on BF2's engine review.

I already said that I love BF2. Oh yeah, I play almost 24/7 since it came out. Just did not like the fact that EA is still using it's old eigine and making us pay 50 bucks.

Well I can be a whiner but not stupid. Definitely not throwing 50 bucks for a MOD, You decide ;) I am staying with BF2 Classic. Hola Wake Island!!

[e-genesis]

bf 2142 IS ****ING AWSOME i dont get why ppl would say it sux? imo they hav no skillz :p basically its the best game ive played yet im realy looking foward to playing it :D and sounds awsome EA ans DICE did an outstanding jod well done ;) p.s. it has better gun fights way better im proud of EA and DICE

I will see you after PATCH 1.1 :p :D ;)

[Anzillu]

I dont get ppl who go whining about how they dont like the game and not gonna buy it...I mean...if they hate the game so mutch what are they still doing on these forums :confused:
O well, I'm sure this game is gonna rock and tons of ppl are gonna buy it (like me) just like BF2 wich also got a lot of whining so BF2142 FTW :cool:

[Orphious2006]

I dont get ppl who go whining about how they dont like the game and not gonna buy it...I mean...if they hate the game so mutch what are they still doing on these forums :confused:
O well, I'm sure this game is gonna rock and tons of ppl are gonna buy it (like me) just like BF2 wich also got a lot of whining so BF2142 FTW :cool:

Beacuse the game is in itself fun to play but due to stupid bugs is unplayable for some people. I tend to say a game "sucks" when I cant play the demo for more that 5 mins and not be disconnected from the master server. Yea Dice posted something about a fix but it is still happenig well after their so called fix. I mean jeeeze how can you people say you love this game after the BF2 fiasco and now the crap people are putting up with for this demo. Why anyone would buy another game in the BF series is beyond me.

[LahLahSr]

I dont get ppl who go whining about how they dont like the game and not gonna buy it...I mean...if they hate the game so mutch what are they still doing on these forums :confused:
O well, I'm sure this game is gonna rock and tons of ppl are gonna buy it (like me) just like BF2 wich also got a lot of whining so BF2142 FTW :cool:

If these people argue why and how their disappointment is so strong, they are then providing a service for others who are considering getting the game. They can make a more informed decision.

These forums are not only for "fanbois" - i.e. completely enraptured enthusiasts who are so thrilled that they are pathologically incapable of finding any flaws with this game.

Others simply like to discuss games that receive a lot of hype.

..there are many reasons and most of them are perfectly appropriate for this forum.

Cheers :-)

[Digikid]

Coming from the guy who came up with a forum user name by bashing his head into the keyboard.

LMAO!!!!!! :laugh: Nice one!

[e-genesis]

I dont get ppl who go whining about how they dont like the game and not gonna buy it...I mean...if they hate the game so mutch what are they still doing on these forums :confused:
O well, I'm sure this game is gonna rock and tons of ppl are gonna buy it (like me) just like BF2 wich also got a lot of whining so BF2142 FTW :cool:

Probably we are saving you from a ripoff so that you dont have to bang your head in the keyboard ;)

[thejeran]

I didnt have time to read everything but heres wat gotta say, if you think BF2142 is a copy of BF2 then think of all other games
Call of Duty: Used same engine but texture was different
Medal of Honor: Same engine
I;m to bored to name games but all games with a sequal use same engine, and are around $50. plus BF2142 has many more features then BF2 so actually this is a better deal than BF2.

[e-genesis]

LMAO!!!!!! :laugh: Nice one!

Coming from the guy who came up with a forum user name by bashing his head into the keyboard.

Wow you can see the future!!

BF2142 Patch 1.2
- Known issue with people banging head in the monitor,
- Issue with people whining continues and DICE does not care.
- Titans can be stabbed to death

[Beerman]

Wow you can see the future!!

BF2142 Patch 1.2
- Known issue with people banging head in the monitor,
- Issue with people whining continues and DICE does not care.
- Titans can be stabbed to death

You are very negitive, cool your jets. I love 2142.

[Sir. VeeNz]

FC;60162']For all of those who have posted threads regarding 2142 and how much it "Sucks" read on.

Consider this, Every new game has it's own Learning Curve. Some games you can pick up on instantly, others require you to take some effort to learn how to play.

No ones a pro in the first hour of playing a game, its called a Learning Curve...

This game is not an extension of BF2, and as such, should be treated like a new game with new gameplay mechanics. Take the time to learn the game, and if you don't want to, then simply dont.

Stop trying to impose your opinion of the game as facts. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it needs to be changed.

I respect the opinions of all those who post on this forum, as do the rest of the TotalBF2142 team. As long as its constructive, the post is here to stay, but otherwise, the Moderators will lock the thread. Remember this the next time you make a post.

I agree to everything you said. This talk about BF2142 being a mod from BF2 is so... stupid..

[-UEF-Wrona92]

FC;60162']For all of those who have posted threads regarding 2142 and how much it "Sucks" read on.

Consider this, Every new game has it's own Learning Curve. Some games you can pick up on instantly, others require you to take some effort to learn how to play.

No ones a pro in the first hour of playing a game, its called a Learning Curve...

This game is not an extension of BF2, and as such, should be treated like a new game with new gameplay mechanics. Take the time to learn the game, and if you don't want to, then simply dont.

Stop trying to impose your opinion of the game as facts. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it needs to be changed.

I respect the opinions of all those who post on this forum, as do the rest of the TotalBF2142 team. As long as its constructive, the post is here to stay, but otherwise, the Moderators will lock the thread. Remember this the next time you make a post.

I agree people keep saying it "Sucks" I think that the game is awsome :D

[TboneLongshank]

i think there should be a new rule in these forums dont say bad things about EA and DICE because they are better then u. If it sux so much in your opinion why dont u make a game ON YOUR OWN to impress us, EA and DICE ps lol we should make the next person who says it sux to make them make a game ON THEIR OWN its only fair EA + DICE= hard workers stressing themselfs to make a good game in the end the achieved alot respect, fame and something in their body that makes them feel like they did something good to make ppl happy and it shows ;) and in the end was it worth it to them????? im sure they are saying to them selfs yes it was :)

[FC000]

Infact, the game is an exact extention of BF2, based on the same engine, game mechanics and nothing more than new skins and game types. It's smart to get your facts straight before warning people about how they post.

By "Extension" I was refering to the fact that it could not be applied to BF2 as a Mod or Expansion due to the Engine changes required to allow many of the new Elements found in 2142 such as the new Rank system that works on a very different system then BF2, Kit Custimization, as well as ingame coding to allow for elements such as Walkers.

2142 Is an Extension of BF2 in the same way that all the Battlefield games are. They all have the same style as the previous one, with the same general feel. It's called a Franchise, expecting something amazing, and different is why you buy another game, but when you enjoy the style of gameplay, you stick with it. You don't see developers drastically changing the way a Franchise plays, it's not smart. You stick with what works when it comes to the basics, and apply that into a new era of war. Of course developers will also try every possible way to add something new and interesting, but the core gameplay will always be the same when it comes to the basics.

This is a Bush regime like threat to anyone using these forums that they can't form an opposing opinion or even rant. Obviously saying that you respect all opinions of those who post and then saying as long as it's constructive. It's dictative and manipulative at the least.

I am not saying that you cannot post negative comments or opinions about the game on these forums. If we had followed such a system during the Beta on those forums, 2142 would still contain some critical gameplay flaws that were fixed during the Tuning Beta.

BUT, what we do expect you to do, when making a post, weather it be positive or negative, is to at least take the time to explain within reason why you have this opinion. And the fact is, your opinion is there to state what you think, and let other people know, NOT to influence others opinions like this:

Probably we are saving you from a ripoff so that you dont have to bang your head in the keyboard

The only thing being said here is quite simply "I Dont like the game, so I want you not to buy it because of what I think". That's not what we want to see, what we do want to see is posts such as Zandogs that take the time to post why people think what they think, and back your Opinions.

[e-genesis]

FC;63486']By "Extension" I was refering to the fact that it could not be applied to BF2 as a Mod or Expansion due to the Engine changes required to allow many of the new Elements found in 2142 such as the new Rank system that works on a very different system then BF2, Kit Custimization, as well as ingame coding to allow for elements such as Walkers.

2142 Is an Extension of BF2 in the same way that all the Battlefield games are. They all have the same style as the previous one, with the same general feel. It's called a Franchise, expecting something amazing, and different is why you buy another game, but when you enjoy the style of gameplay, you stick with it. You don't see developers drastically changing the way a Franchise plays, it's not smart. You stick with what works when it comes to the basics, and apply that into a new era of war. Of course developers will also try every possible way to add something new and interesting, but the core gameplay will always be the same when it comes to the basics.



I am not saying that you cannot post negative comments or opinions about the game on these forums. If we had followed such a system during the Beta on those forums, 2142 would still contain some critical gameplay flaws that were fixed during the Tuning Beta.

BUT, what we do expect you to do, when making a post, weather it be positive or negative, is to at least take the time to explain within reason why you have this opinion. And the fact is, your opinion is there to state what you think, and let other people know, NOT to influence others opinions like this:

The only thing being said here is quite simply "I Dont like the game, so I want you not to buy it because of what I think". That's not what we want to see, what we do want to see is posts such as Zandogs that take the time to post why people think what they think, and back your Opinions.
I used the word "PROBABLY" which means "you think about it and buy it". So that comes to the conclusion that I am NOT forcing anyone. Unlike YOU putting threats of locking threads.

By the way, I still need to get a link for BF2142 engine review!! Please submit a review link next time.

[Willee]

I still don't understand why people who don't like it and aren't going to buy it are still in this thread. If you don't like it, LEAVE! It's not that hard, you see that red X in the corner? Press it now.

If you think you're going to sway our opinion about the game so that we won't buy it, you're wrong. You're just wasting your time here when you could be wasting away your life on BF2.

[e-genesis]

I still don't understand why people who don't like it and aren't going to buy it are still in this thread. If you don't like it, LEAVE! It's not that hard, you see that red X in the corner? Press it now.

If you think you're going to sway our opinion about the game so that we won't buy it, you're wrong. You're just wasting your time here when you could be wasting away your life on BF2.

Actually You are correct!! Just have to wait for Crysis ;)

[=VTA=MANFACE]

well I've played the demo...

Its buggy, just fresh skins over BF2, gameplay is repetitive and boring, vehicles are terrible, weapons are big and awesome but severly NERFED !

In my opinion this SUCKS.

[MathiasMagnas]

somebody finally said what we all were thinking

[laserbrain711]

I thought BF2 was the best (of its kind) game that had ever graced us in all aspects...graphics, storyline, idea....it was a masterpiece. As is BF2142. I've been fooling around with the demo for a few days but I gotta say, the only complaints i have are I would like to see the guns make more noise like in UT2004...that's it. But I think BF2142 will go down in history as a masterpiece also. It's simply amazing and thatnks to all the guys and girls who made this game possible!!

[supageek]

I joined the forum today, great site btw. Ive been playing BF2 ever since it came out and totally love the game and I absolutely have no complaints about it. But EA's newest release Battlefield 2142 seriously is crap. Being a newer game you'd expect better graphics but oh no, it is terrible, and even worse then BF2 which has been out for a while now. The engine is crap, the game play, physics, the GAME is just a total waste of time. Im not a big forum type of guy but I just had to comment on this crap of a game they just released. Someone kill these people at EA. I mean people will have different views on the game but Im pretty sure everyone will agree on the GRAPHICS being total garbage. Its kind of like comparing counterstrike and counter strike source. Newer should be diffinitely better. Im not buying this game for sure and Im pretty sure EA wont capitalize on this game. People will continue to play BF2 instead. Game sucks anus. I run BF2 and ran BF2142 on 1600x1200 everything on high settings on a 21inch monitor just to let you guys know. Even the high resolution doesnt make of for the crap graphics, would be better off playing nintendo64 for eye candy than this crap of a game. we are back in the Geforce2 standards with 2142. There should be a vote on this game. And people who say BF2142 is nice graphically you seriously have some problems.

[A5ko]

I joined the forum today, great site btw. Ive been playing BF2 ever since it came out and totally love the game and I absolutely have no complaints about it. But EA's newest release Battlefield 2142 seriously is crap. Being a newer game you'd expect better graphics but oh no, it is terrible, and even worse then BF2 which has been out for a while now. The engine is crap, the game play, physics, the GAME is just a total waste of time. Im not a big forum type of guy but I just had to comment on this crap of a game they just released. Someone kill these people at EA. I mean people will have different views on the game but Im pretty sure everyone will agree on the GRAPHICS being total garbage. Its kind of like comparing counterstrike and counter strike source. Newer should be diffinitely better. Im not buying this game for sure and Im pretty sure EA wont capitalize on this game. People will continue to play BF2 instead. Game sucks anus. I run BF2 and ran BF2142 on 1600x1200 everything on high settings on a 21inch monitor just to let you guys know. Even the high resolution doesnt make of for the crap graphics, would be better off playing nintendo64 for eye candy than this crap of a game. we are back in the Geforce2 standards with 2142. There should be a vote on this game. And people who say BF2142 is nice graphically you seriously have some problems.



The engine is crap

A second ago you were just praising BF2, what gives?

I mean people will have different views on the game but Im pretty sure everyone will agree on the GRAPHICS being total garbage

A tad contradictive that don't you think?

Newer should be diffinitely better

However this is not a written law that it will be.

would be better off playing nintendo64 for eye candy than this crap of a game

No ones stopping you from doing that.

There should be a vote on this gam

There have been several

And people who say BF2142 is nice graphically you seriously have some problems

Or have better computers then urs you mean?

[supageek]

FC;60162']For all of those who have posted threads regarding 2142 and how much it "Sucks" read on.

Consider this, Every new game has it's own Learning Curve. Some games you can pick up on instantly, others require you to take some effort to learn how to play.

No ones a pro in the first hour of playing a game, its called a Learning Curve...

This game is not an extension of BF2, and as such, should be treated like a new game with new gameplay mechanics. Take the time to learn the game, and if you don't want to, then simply dont.

Stop trying to impose your opinion of the game as facts. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it needs to be changed.

I respect the opinions of all those who post on this forum, as do the rest of the TotalBF2142 team. As long as its constructive, the post is here to stay, but otherwise, the Moderators will lock the thread. Remember this the next time you make a post.

Ok first of all you say you respect the opinions of those who post on the forum. Well maybe in your opinion saying negative things about the game may not be contructive, but for those who really want to have a discussion regarding the negatives of the game 'we' should be allowed to have a thread discussing it. It's only "contructive when you have positive things to say about this game when its not true at all to a lot of people out there. Now really whos trying to impose their opinion on others? Does the title of the thread have to be positive in order for one to start a thread? because it sure seems like it.

[menace-uk-]

Ok first of all you say you respect the opinions of those who post on the forum. Well maybe in your opinion saying negative things about the game may not be contructive, but for those who really want to have a discussion regarding the negatives of the game 'we' should be allowed to have a thread discussing it. It's only "contructive when you have positive things to say about this game when its not true at all to a lot of people out there. Now really whos trying to impose their opinion on others? Does the title of the thread have to be positive in order for one to start a thread? because it sure seems like it.

Nobody said you can not have a disscussion about the negative things in the game;)

[Chris_Redfield]

Nobody said you can not have a disscussion about the negative things in the game;)

BUT, the fanboys make it rather difficult by making various odd assumptions and even stranger suggestions such as "If you dont like it, play THAT game!". ;)

[menace-uk-]

BUT, the fanboys make it rather difficult by making various odd assumptions and even stranger suggestions such as "If you dont like it, play THAT game!". ;)

Well they do to you cause you say nothing positive about the game which implies you dont like it so why saty on a forum if you dont like the game it is dedicated for;)

Plus your post's are not locked because at least they show an insight in to why you dont like it which is fine with me;)

[Chris_Redfield]

Meh, I dont think BF2142 is all bad. Ive said it before, I like the tactical approach to infantry level combat and I absolutely adore the map design as it gives AT troopers so much tactical space to take on any ground vehicle.

I praise where its good, I b!tch where its bad.

[Adval]

I think the main point of this post was to point out that you can make negative posts about the game, but you must do it constructively and by telling other people the reasons behind your opinions. IMO the same should apply to (overly) positive posts as well.

For example, this isn't allowed:

This game sucks! I won't be buying this game, it's total crap!

But this is allowed:

The game wasn't as good as I thought it would be. It feels like it's missing something. I loved jets in BF2 and now they've only got those hybrids, so I'm kind of disappointed with that. I doubt I'll be buying the game.


And like I said, the same should apply to (at least overly) positive posts:

This game rocks! Seriously, this is the best game ever!!111!1121121!!

The above should be:

This game rocks! I mean, the graphics are good and they've certainly added lots of nice, new content! I think this might be the best game ever!

Oh and the above "quotes" are just examples and do not represent my opinions... At least not all of them. ;) Also, if you've got something to complain about, you've got a chance to change it. Detail the reasons why you don't like it and perhaps present some alternative solutions. DICE might be reading that post. ;) If there's something wrong with the game, don't bash it; help them fix it!

[goldennova]

Also- THIS GAME IS NOT QUAKE WARS!

This isn't a probalem in this forum really, but I hate people comparing this game to quake wars. It may be similar, but just because someone prefers one game over the other doesn't mean that the other one is bad. Just thought that I should point that out...

[MasterAlex]

Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[A5ko]

Also- THIS GAME IS NOT QUAKE WARS!

This isn't a probalem in this forum really, but I hate people comparing this game to quake wars. It may be similar, but just because someone prefers one game over the other doesn't mean that the other one is bad. Just thought that I should point that out...


BF2142 and Quake Wars are similar in thoery as to how they work (they are both FPS played on large battlefields in the future), FACT.
How they PLAY against one another is something different as we can't possibly tell you that.

The comments i have made in the past have been "what if Quake wars does this...", "How will BF2142 react". I'm not comparing the two as i can't possibly tell you anything about Quake Wars aside from whats on the website. Sure i've seen movies, but that doesnt mean it'll play like anything we have used before.

Yes you're right, this game IS NOT Quake Wars but next year it will be competing against it. So if someone wants to pose a theoretical question i don't see how thats a bad thing.

I certainly don't favour Quake Wars over BF2142 or vice versa, how can i at the moment? I have not played either!

[dietcoketm]

Well if they dont like the game...there in the wrong place

[kj23kjg1234l124]

This thread needs deletion, the "game" officially sucks. Hundreds of bugs, crap ingame performance, spyware, adware.

[Sepp_Dietrich]

This thread needs deletion, the "game" officially sucks. Hundreds of bugs, crap ingame performance, spyware, adware.

When did one of the SplashDamage forum cultists get in here? :rolleyes:

Read that forum and you'll see the ultimate in rabid fanboy hysterics.

[lordsinner]

This thread needs deletion, the "game" officially sucks. Hundreds of bugs, crap ingame performance, spyware, adware.

O rly?

Crap in game performance- you have ****ty PC congratulations.

Spyware - Ever heard about Firewall or Antivirus?

Adware - Ever heard about Spy bot?

If you talking about that reclam which EA will make in game well in two years all games will have that don't worrie, EA is not 1st with this technic.

And if you don't like the game then WHY do you even bother Go to this page and find that threat?

[supageek]

OMG the movement in this game is so unbelievably retarded. Ok what EA did with the BF2 engine is they took a wrench and a hammer banged it a few times and said walla there we go, this will be our next generation engine for BATTLEFIELD 2142. Our greatest and ****TEST game release of all times. We shall rob those loyal fools of their money because they dont care about graphics, physics, or gameplay, all they really care about is the name, long as the word Battlefield is included there will be the fanboys. Yeah and this is coming from like the the CEO of EA unbelievable aint it? And its like totally true.

[some1one]

How is it retarded?

[The 13th Raptor]

OMFG stfu some1one, it r crap cuzu cnt pronejmp and flop liek a dolphin when plp shoot at u, theyr bullets now hit me when they shoot, its liek so gay srly wtf.

[mike22]

bf2142 has a huge competitor and that is bf2. simple bf2 kicks *** and is imo one of the best games ever created....

now ea has to compete with itself......
bf2142 is just a spin off like the other mods created for bf2.
won't take long before bf2142 goes out like a candle like the other mods.

bf2 shall prevail....
my money defently does not go to this arcade game.....

[The 13th Raptor]

Modifications will outlive bf2, FH outlasted bf1942, and it will do the same with bf2, and BF2142 is not a mod, untill we get to play retail, bf2142's future is unclear.

[Chris_Redfield]

900+ servers and raising daily. Im fairly confident that the game will outlive BF2.

40+ unlocks and ranks say so. And the fact that its generally easy to get points.

[JerKinXx]

This thread is crazy !
I suggest a mod delete all the reply and lock this thread!

[lordsinner]

This thread is crazy !
I suggest a mod delete all the reply and lock this thread!
agree, to many people don't know what they are talking about. They call this game for Clone/MOD of BF2 well should I bring up 1000 of game titles which you guys love which is kinda modification of other games/engines etc?

[supageek]

yup like the title says.. theres apple fanboys, sony fanboys, samsung fanboys, counterstrike fanboys, and umm battlefield fanboys... But seriously you have these fanboys that will always stick up, even if they rip them off, I mean if this aint a rip off then what is it? they release a new game and say its battlefield 2142, well ok great make over, but what happened to the fast paced action? the strategy and skills you need to build up before being able to get somewhere. This game is made for straight noobs, not impling that I am not a noob but even so I like games that are atlest somewhat realistic and BF2 has some elements of realism but this piece of crap OMFG is CRAP.
The reason I hate this pice of crap they call 2142...
first of all the graphics is just uber garbage
second the physics for example the movement is soo childish its not even a joke. whats with the heavy wobbling when you run?
third the stupid titans? whats with the corny lame explosion at the end? this game is for kids. the name should changed to : BATTLEFIELD CHILDs PLAY

[The 13th Raptor]

I'm not sure what exacly is realistic about prone jumping and being able to snipe people instantly afterwards, but i'm sure you.. mr pc specs in sig can explain this to me, hmm?

[Chris_Redfield]

Jumping behind cover and landing on your stomach is actually quite regular. Not exactly defending prone jumping, but BF2142 has it in the game aswell.

[The 13th Raptor]

That's a legitimate, non offensive way to do it. BF2 made it a problem because it could be used offensively, dodging some bullets and instantly aquiring 100% accuracy.

[Adval]

they release a new game and say its battlefield 2142, well ok great make over, but what happened to the fast paced action?

I guess it's one of those changes that make this a new game.

I like games that are atlest somewhat realistic and BF2 has some elements of realism

This game is set in the future... I guess you could still apply some realism, but in the sci-fi setting some non-realistic stuff is actually fairly nice.

but this piece of crap OMFG is CRAP.

Isn't that a good point? Yes... I wouldn't of ever guessed a piece of crap could actually be crap...

first of all the graphics is just uber garbage

The graphics are better than in BF2. :|:

second the physics for example the movement is soo childish its not even a joke. whats with the heavy wobbling when you run?

I believe it's called realism. You know you can't really keep your vision focused while you're running with over 20 kg of equipment. Not to mention that you can turn camera shaking off in the options if it annoys you so much.

third the stupid titans? whats with the corny lame explosion at the end?

Corny lame explosion? :rofl: I guess that's the titan exploding like a big vehicle should or would...

this game is for kids. the name should changed to : BATTLEFIELD CHILDs PLAY

Yeah, let's do just that! :)

[supageek]

I guess it's one of those changes that make this a new game.



This game is set in the future... I guess you could still apply some realism, but in the sci-fi setting some non-realistic stuff is actually fairly nice.



Isn't that a good point? Yes... I wouldn't of ever guessed a piece of crap could actually be crap...



The graphics are better than in BF2. :|:



I believe it's called realism. You know you can't really keep your vision focused while you're running with over 20 kg of equipment. Not to mention that you can turn camera shaking off in the options if it annoys you so much.



Corny lame explosion? :rofl: I guess that's the titan exploding like a big vehicle should or would...



Yeah, let's do just that! :)

yeah you are right its a new game alright but a very disappointing one at that. yeah you guys like it all you want, your probably still playing counter strike and not CSS, I mean if you ever played a game with decent graphics you would know BF2142 is garbage. ok and in real life you can jump and go to a prone position and snipe, maybe not instantly but yes its physically possible unlesss if you are a big fat lardass. And in BF2 its not instant you still have to aim and it takes time. As for BF2142 Im not going to try to knock sense into you fanboys. I thought people would have better sense then buy into such a garbage release EA calls their newest edition to the BF series. Its really ashame and I dont know if my wounds would ever heal by such hurt they caused me by releasing such a piece of crap. Disgrace I tell you.

[Adval]

your probably still playing counter strike and not CSS, I mean if you ever played a game with decent graphics you would know BF2142 is garbage.

Actually I don't play either CS nor CSS, but I've played both of them. Of course Source has better graphics, with CSS being released 5 years after the first version of CS. I also know that graphics don't make the game. Ever played Pong? Tetris? Solitaire? Pac-Man? All examples of games with fairly poor graphics but with great gameplay. I rather play a game with content and medium graphics than a game with no content and amazing graphics. Oh and I also don't think 2142's graphics are anywhere near garbage when compared to CSS. Infact if you take into account the fact that CSS is a close quarters combat game and 2142 is a huge war game, you'll see that the graphics are very similar when compared.

ok and in real life you can jump and go to a prone position and snipe, maybe not instantly but yes its physically possible unlesss if you are a big fat lardass. And in BF2 its not instant you still have to aim and it takes time.

Of course it's possible, but it's more of a question of how often it's actually done in real life and how much faster and unrealistic it is in BF2. Quite frankly, when a Battlefield game starts to resemble the gameplay on some CS servers, I think something's seriously wrong.

As for BF2142 Im not going to try to knock sense into you fanboys. I thought people would have better sense then buy into such a garbage release EA calls their newest edition to the BF series.

I believe in individual thought and I've never thought collective opinions without individual experience are any good. Let everyone play the game and make up their own mind. Let us who like it play it and you can go and play something else. You can't please everyone and there's no game in the world someone wouldn't of called total crap. :) As for being a fanboy, perhaps I am. Not a fanboy of EA nor DICE at all, but of the Battlefield series perhaps. But that doesn't mean that everyone playing 2142 is a "fanboy". That's like saying all BF2 players are BF2 fanboys because they don't want to move into 2142. ;)

Its really ashame and I dont know if my wounds would ever heal by such hurt they caused me by releasing such a piece of crap. Disgrace I tell you.

Well that's really your problem, not ours. Like I said, everyone should make up their own mind and act based on that. You respect my opinion and I'll respect yours. Anyhow, I'm sorry you didn't like 2142 and hope you'll find a game you like better.

[Sethonan]

I just went back to play a couple of BF2 rounds. I found something interesting.

Shot deviation isn't that pronounced, you can run and gun with almost impunity everywhere you go. The support gun can snipe long range, you can kill easier, you earn much more points with little effort by doing practically nothing.

Accodringly to what some people in this forum have stated, after playing this "dumbed down" game for "noobs" my "skillz" would have been reduced since BF2 is so "hardcore". Well, if you apply crouch instead of proning, short controlled well aimed bursts with all weapons you become more deadly in BF2 since armor is almost nono existant. you still get to die a lot to tanks that are ethereal and jet fire and bombs, but suddenly you'll notice you have actually improved at playing the game by using tactics.

Recoil is not as pronounced, meaning you can fire without using the crosshairs that much; dolphin diving is deadly and pretty much the only thing that will get you killed in a duel. If you don't do it= you are dead.

Since the first round I played after BF2142 was a 25 killing spree; that earned me a whopping 50 points previous to the kill assists and squad support actions. Now imagine that with the squad leader bonuses and you can get the complete picture of the point whoring fest that is BF2.

I think it goes without mentioning, but sniping is just too damn easy in BF2 after playing BF2142.

And I mention this, since some of the arguments are that BF2142 is a dumbed down version of the game; if this was the case how come I made more points per round in BF2 after playing BF2142? My "skillz" should have been degraded since I was playing an "easier" game; yet the exact opposite ocurred. And I wasn't playing an IO or karkand map (not Wake tough, I don't have the stomach anymore to be base raped TYVM).

[The 13th Raptor]

yeah you are right its a new game alright but a very disappointing one at that. yeah you guys like it all you want, your probably still playing counter strike and not CSS, I mean if you ever played a game with decent graphics you would know BF2142 is garbage.

You can't compare them, CS:S usually has like.. what, 30 players on average on a small map? In BF2142 we have 64 players using all sorts of vehicles, that interact with all sorts of projectiles and terrain. Believe me, it makes a difference. Besides that, bf2142 looks marginally better than BF2, so i'm not sure what the problem is here.

ok and in real life you can jump and go to a prone position and snipe, maybe not instantly but yes its physically possible unlesss if you are a big fat lardass. And in BF2 its not instant you still have to aim and it takes time.

You cannot, it's impossible to hold your gun in a firing position and not hurt yourself when you make such a move. Regardless of possibility, the infantry movements in BF2 is just too twitchy in general, there is nothing realistic about them, apart from the fact that the feet touch the ground most of the time, so your "bf2 was more realistic" argument is invalid. :)

As for BF2142 Im not going to try to knock sense into you fanboys. I thought people would have better sense then buy into such a garbage release EA calls their newest edition to the BF series. Its really ashame and I dont know if my wounds would ever heal by such hurt they caused me by releasing such a piece of crap. Disgrace I tell you.

You haven't even played retail yet, neither have I. Dice has never been good at releasing games in perfect condition the first try around, any judgement you make about the game before it's out is completely unfounded. Come back when the game has been out for a week, maybe then you can construct an actual, factual argument.

[Fingersniffer]

After playing this game for the amount that I have (pre Demo) this game really is superior to BF2 in more ways then I will personally go into. The map they give for the demo is one of my least favorites in the game... the others (yes I've played all the maps) are much more enjoyable to me.

Graphics are VASTLY improved from BF2, not really from an engine side of things, but more form the tweaks they added to the engine allows for higher details in textures while maintaining the same polygon count per model (I work on a BF2/2142 mod, doing some Photoshop and Modeling). The game looks better then BF2 ever could, I mean really... play a few hours of BF2142 then go play some BF2 right after... you will notice the difference in color schemes (mainly that BF2 has brown and 2142 has everything), detail, and finish quality.

You can call me a fanboy, I've enjoyed the BF franchise since 1942 hit the shelves, I do love 2142 with the exception of air vehicles (they are junk and boring). After playing this game around 5 months you tend to get attached, the gameplay and forethought that went into several aspects pleased me greatly as they went ignored in BF2.

I fail to truely understand why some people even bother posting here with their comments that are based out of ignorance to take jabs at others rather then posting well thought out comments to help IMPROVE the game, of you dont like the game DONT BUY IT!

[The 13th Raptor]

I can’t wait to play those maps, the pictures make me drool. The demo map is alright but all your movement across the map seems so channeled, obstacles guiding you trough the same paths every time. I hope one of these maps is based on walkers alone.. it would be orgasmic. :P

[Chris_Redfield]

Sethonan, in Counter Strike weapons are more accurate than in BF2142 or BF2, yet the game is one of the most skill-demanding FPS. SWAT4, weapons in single shot mode with closed aiming reticle are as accurate as rail-guns, yet again its tactically challenging and in the same time offers a lot to the person with an itchy trigger finger.

The fact is- its actually hard to shoot in BF2142, not because of recoil control, which is laughable at best, but because it uses some random cone of fire BS to prolongue firefights. This way, its extremely forgiving when it comes to newbies. In the same time, the game is restricted when it comes to moving to not to give an egde to the players who actually do use all stances. Again, to equalize the gap between skilled players and new players.

In the end, its a dumbed down game, and it is so for a reason. Killing is just a part of the pointfarming process.

By the way, my stats of BF2 show a 0.98 KDR with assault rifles, but Im recently having rounds of 2:1. I call myself a lousy shooter when it comes to BF2. In BF2142, on land, I have no problems killing more and dieing less.

[The 13th Raptor]

We all know battlefield 1942, bf:v and bf:2 had no such thing as a random cone of fire, so I don’t know why they changed it in bf2142.. oh wait. :p

The ONLY game where infantry movement is so twitchy is bf:2, nothing else really changed in the infantry department, they dumbed down ****, they made things slower because its BETTER that way in their, and my opinion.
I use every stance, but I don’t switch between them every .5 seconds like some drugged up break dancer. Being able to use these stances to actively dodge bullets is just wrong, the constant jerking from side to side, rolling around, and STILL firing accurately.. No really, if anything is dumb, it’s that aspect of BF2. :P

Could it be that you are so attached to your "skillset" that you feel naked now that it isnt usefull anymore? ;)

[Chris_Redfield]

Actually BF2 DOES have random cone of fiire.

And as for me feeling "naked", please... I think SWAT4 is superior to BF2 from a FPS players perspective, and thats the game I like the most and have played the most. Its like 2 different games, in one you engage using your brains, in BF2 you engage using your fingers. Thank god for variety in gaming library.

So BF2142 generally doesnt offer me anything new, except that I think its a sin to use slow tactical movement combined with piss-poor weapons. If anything, weapons should be accurate enough to drop anyone within first bursts.

[jerryhopper]

FC;60162']For all of those who have posted threads regarding 2142 and how much it "Sucks" read on.

Consider this, Every new game has it's own Learning Curve. Some games you can pick up on instantly, others require you to take some effort to learn how to play.

No ones a pro in the first hour of playing a game, its called a Learning Curve...

This game is not an extension of BF2, and as such, should be treated like a new game with new gameplay mechanics. Take the time to learn the game, and if you don't want to, then simply dont.

Stop trying to impose your opinion of the game as facts. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it needs to be changed.



Sorry to interrupt.

Fact #1 2142 is based off BF2 ( confirmed by DICE/EA) with only tweaks in the engine to make things possible what wasnt possible in bf2. its a cheap clone-in a different timeline period.
Fact #2 Although they claim 'Mod' support - if there ever be such thing, it should have been in bf2.
Fact #3 from a internal EA source, i have confirmation on the 'bugged' release of 2142 - no decent publisher publishes a bugged game. why not let the people wait like the 1.4 patch? but then with the release?
Fact #4 we all have been let down, as buyer and ranked server provider - by EA/DICE- it cost blood sweat and tear to get to 1.4, so why would this game be different? they already 'look back' on BF2?!?!!!

In short, the learning curve is this:
You buy Bf2, got let down by EA multiple times, and have to wait absurd long for a patch.
They announce 2142, with 'Paid Advertisements' inside, and you have to pay the full prize.
Besides the upgraded engine ( which should be the BF2 engine ) 2142 is just a 'Mod'.
Everywhere y ou look, EA talks about 2142 and nothing else.

what every common guy learns ( that has spend his bucks on bf2 ) is that they try to sell 2142 at ANY cost, with even more profit.
'Why implement ADS in 2142' while you cant fix the network gameplsy in BF2 in a decent manner?


in my opinion, you should THINK before you praise 2142.
or did you pre-ordered already? *grin*

then, enjoy 'glitching' 2142 ;) If its in the game, its in the game.....

[The 13th Raptor]

Actually BF2 DOES have random cone of fiire.

You need to recalibrate your sarcasm detetor. ;)

So BF2142 generally doesnt offer me anything new, except that I think its a sin to use slow tactical movement combined with piss-poor weapons. If anything, weapons should be accurate enough to drop anyone within first bursts.

It worked in Battlefield 1942, to a lesser extent BF:V, and in BF2, for those that chose not to run and gun, hop and prone midair and all that. I'm not sure what you'd call a "burst", but if i manage to drop 3 people using one smg mag, i'd say that's pretty decent when compared to Battlefield 2, the assault weapon and support are even "worse", its not uncommon for me to just murder my way trough a single file of enemies without missing a shot. Weapons are lethal enough in the right hands. :)

[Chris_Redfield]

You need to recalibrate your sarcasm detetor. ;)

LOL, sorry, Things are pretty heated up around this place as it is :)



It worked in Battlefield 1942, to a lesser extent BF:V, and in BF2, for those that chose not to run and gun, hop and prone midair and all that. I'm not sure what you'd call a "burst", but if i manage to drop 3 people using one smg mag, i'd say that's pretty decent when compared to Battlefield 2, the assault weapon and support are even "worse", its not uncommon for me to just murder my way trough a single file of enemies without missing a shot. Weapons are lethal enough in the right hands. :)

Well, thats close quarters for you. At close, games using cone of fire and recoil tend to play out using the same engagement methods.

[some1one]

Just becasue you don't like something does not mean other people have to not like it. Also the manny people playing the demo right now probably don't hate it like you.

only tweaks in the engine to make things possible what wasnt possible in bf2.
Thats sounds pretty much like everything is possible then. Cool!
What do you want then, Changes that makes things possible that are allready in BF2?
Some improvements are much faster load times and better graphics.

Fact #2 Although they claim 'Mod' support - if there ever be such thing, it should have been in bf2.
There is more mod support the a lot of other games I have. Some have not even released a tool to mod them and they have been out for months.

Fact #3 from a internal EA source, i have confirmation on the 'bugged' release of 2142 - no decent publisher publishes a bugged game. why not let the people wait like the 1.4 patch? but then with the release?
So your saying someone from EA told you there own game is crap?

Fact #4 we all have been let down, as buyer and ranked server provider - by EA/DICE- it cost blood sweat and tear to get to 1.4, so why would this game be different? they already 'look back' on BF2?!?!!!
There is a new team in charge of patches since DICE Canada are now gone and 1.4 seems pretty good too me. Also it's not like there are not any games with worse patch support like Battlefront 2 which got 1 patch which only really made more problems.

Oh and for Chris_Redfield
So BF2142 generally doesnt offer me anything new, except that I think its a sin to use slow tactical movement combined with piss-poor weapons. If anything, weapons should be accurate enough to drop anyone within first bursts.
What happened to you killing me with 3 shots from your assult rifle while I'm support?

[The 13th Raptor]

Well, thats close quarters for you. At close, games using cone of fire and recoil tend to play out using the same engagement methods.

Not just close quarters, at medium to long range as well. Though at those ranges killing with the smg takes a while, the assault rifle can still wipe the floor with exposed infantry. Sure it may take 4 shots, but then again this is battlefield old school style, if you have played BF1942 referring to the BAR should be enough. :D

[jerryhopper]

Just becasue you don't like something does not mean other people have to not like it. Also the manny people playing the demo right now probably don't hate it like you.


it has nothing to do with hate....
50 EURO's stays a lot of money for some people.
Now, get BF2Patch 1.4 and try to hit something with AA
- instead of Fixing that, they tell you to buy 2142 - anothjer 50 euro's



There is more mod support the a lot of other games I have. Some have not even released a tool to mod them and they have been out for months.

You are clearly not A BF2 modder, and you probably dont care about them....
do you have ANY idea what Modders had to do to get to 1.4 with all its fixes?
i was on the front row there so please dont start....

So your saying someone from EA told you there own game is crap?
Pretty much yes, HE wouldnt shipped it in this state yes.


There is a new team in charge of patches since DICE Canada are now gone and 1.4 seems pretty good too me. Also it's not like there are not any games with worse patch support like Battlefront 2 which got 1 patch which only really made more problems.


Do your homework, Dice Canada made Patch 1.4
The 'New' team hasnt build a patch for BF2.
The success of BF42 was build on the reputation of BF2, like BF2 is for 2142.
The Reputation of BF1942? A Very very moddable engine, where internal fuctionality wasnt changed in every patch !


Mods made BF42!
EA/Commerce killed its descendants

[Eaglewatch1336]

I totally respect and like your post. Because it is honest.

Take that BF 2142 haters !!!
May u all die !

[some1one]

You are clearly not A BF2 modder, and you probably dont care about them....
do you have ANY idea what Modders had to do to get to 1.4 with all its fixes?
i was on the front row there so please dont start....
It may not be a great game or that good game too mod but it is far from the worst.
BTW since POE2 I have not play BF2.
Do your homework, Dice Canada made Patch 1.4
The 'New' team hasnt build a patch for BF2.
The success of BF42 was build on the reputation of BF2, like BF2 is for 2142.
The Reputation of BF1942? A Very very moddable engine, where internal fuctionality wasnt changed in every patch !
I knew that DICE Canada did 1.4.
Ok but you say it cost blood sweat and tear to get to 1.4, so why would this game be different? they already 'look back' on BF2?!?!!!
So I told you the reason patching may be better or worse(you can't tell yet) is that it's been done by a new team.

[Khalsa_Fauj]

finally someone stood up and stuck a sock it these ppl

[[99MB]J|Pvt.JumpArtist]

In the interest of fairness and equality, similarly biased and overly positive posts should be subject to the same thread-locking as the negative ones. They are equally "useless" in terms of providing players with any information that can enhance the perception/understanding of the game itself.

That being said, I personally prefer something positive than negative, even if it is unsubstantiated. Of course, both the positive and the negative posters find it hard to resist the temptation to aim some sort of insult towards those who disagree, so it's still a case of spreading unwarranted venom.

A purely unsubstantiated emotional post about how anyone "positiviely luuuuves" or "completely and utterly haaates" any game, is forum-noise if it is not substantiated with why and how the game makes you feel one way or the other. Even better if it can be assisted by constructive suggestions as to what could be done to improve things.

Cheers :-)




very inteligent post, though be it, too inteligent for the average gamer.... being me..LOL
It reminds me of school and writing papers, its easy to rant on and on but without sighting specifics its useless. So I will sight a specific.

On the titan, the ability to "wall hack" with out even being a hacker became VERY clear. a player by the name of BulletProof was in the titan shooting directly through on of the bulkheads that so many of us camp to defend the titan. Before Calling him a "Hack" I tried it for myself, sure enough I could stand, crouch , and prone right through the wall and I could see and fire, but could not be hit. Proved through the eyes of my clan mates. I posted to EA about the problem.
Also "podding out" from friendly titan to enemy, facing towards your titan in flight allowed for Shield penetration into the enemy titan bay. These are bugs that need to be SERIOUSLY adressed before to long.

Pluses: Best gun fights I have EVER experienced since EA started making FPS'. The base....Um not sure which one... Its South of Silo #1 playing as PAC. had transports dropping in 3 mechs, 2 tanks an apc, a buggy and about 20 guys duking it out for the silo, truly incredible. It reminded me of something out of starwars "clone Wars" anyway, goods and bads but its a game that I didnt make, so Im happy to play and constructivly comment.

[Deesies]

basically, fanboys should be treated the same as trolls.

[Khalsa_Fauj]

i still cant believe this discussion is going on, one word: THERE IS NO OTHER GAME ON THE PLANET LIKE THIS.

[A5ko]

i still cant believe this discussion is going on, one word: THERE IS NO OTHER GAME ON THE PLANET LIKE THIS.

Observations Made About the Above Post:

1). That is not 'one word'
2). How about BF2... erm you did know there was a BF2 right?

[=VTA=MANFACE]

Not only does BF2 MOD, BF2142 suckors, its got bloody spyware in it ?

People spend money to get rid of spyware and EA add to their game ?

So if your spyware picks it up and deletes it , you cannot play the game ?

Nice one ea !

[BulletMagnet]

Also the game doesn't have spyware in it it just monitors your in game ad views and and tells the ad program what country your in so you don't get ads for stuff you can't buy. That load of junk has been dealt with in an other threrad so go on about it in this on you'll get it shut down.

Backl to the topic:
Firstly people don't like change, thats a fact of life. Some people run with it, some people shun it and some people whinge about it.

I like the game its pretty cool. The titan mode is conquest with an extra dimension to it.

If you don't like the demo don't buy the game,
If after not liking the demo you still bought the game then don't play it.
If after playing the demo and not likely it you bought the game and are still playing then shut the hell up with all the whinging. You played the demo, you bought the game and you are still playing that means you do actually like it even though your trying so hard to dis-like it. Suggest changes that would fix exploits and improve game play not stuff like "I think its just a big mod it sucks" why exactly does it suck?, what could be improved?, why waste your time talk trash?

thats my 2 cents worth.

[tantric132]

FC;60162']For all of those who have posted threads regarding 2142 and how much it "Sucks" read on.

Consider this, Every new game has it's own Learning Curve. Some games you can pick up on instantly, others require you to take some effort to learn how to play.

No ones a pro in the first hour of playing a game, its called a Learning Curve...

This game is not an extension of BF2, and as such, should be treated like a new game with new gameplay mechanics. Take the time to learn the game, and if you don't want to, then simply dont.

Stop trying to impose your opinion of the game as facts. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it needs to be changed.

I respect the opinions of all those who post on this forum, as do the rest of the TotalBF2142 team. As long as its constructive, the post is here to stay, but otherwise, the Moderators will lock the thread. Remember this the next time you make a post.



QFT
:)

[Schizam]

Also the game doesn't have spyware in it it just monitors your in game ad views and and tells the ad program what country your in so you don't get ads for stuff you can't buy.


Umm, thats exactly what spyware does..

[=VTA=MANFACE]

Also the game doesn't have spyware in it it just monitors your in game ad views and and tells the ad program what country your in so you don't get ads for stuff you can't buy..





Umm, thats exactly what spyware does..


Hahaha..this guy should be called MulletMagnet.......erm as above thats "SPYWARE"...duh....

[Khalsa_Fauj]

i cant believe that this thread is still going if you dont like 2142 then leave the forum go play hide-and-seek. Let the interested ppl play. its not nice to munipulate people. so stop saying it sucks and go home. BF2142 is liveeeee!

[DarkPepe]

i cant believe that this thread is still going if you dont like 2142 then leave the forum go play hide-and-seek. Let the interested ppl play. its not nice to munipulate people. so stop saying it sucks and go home. BF2142 is liveeeee!


It sucks.. period... go home if you dont like freedom of speech...

Btw.. I feel kind of ripped of with the titan mode... there is only 4 maps on the server files that actually allows titan mode (gpm_ti) the rest is pure normal conquest mode.. also the server files are just the same as BF2, and the dumbest thing on it is that is using same tcp and gamespy port as BF2, so if I'm running several bf2 and bf2142 servers under the same machine/ip I have to change the ports for each server...

Is a BF2 mod.. nothing else-

[Bahraini_Killer]

To thread starter...well said indeed...

some of my friends said after 2 times playin that it's not that good...they get killed instatly and all...but hey that reminds me of the first time I ever played BF2 and yes it will take time and time to master all those maps and strategy moves to get the hang of it...

true BF2 has a diffrent taste as it's more realistic but thats why BF2142 is totally diffrent where it takes you the future...I see it nice and cool so far...giving it more time will just give you more enjoyment and fun times...

as for bugs I know tons will come out but hey we all played BF2 and we all know nothing is perfect so wait for update and repair patches..

until then enjoy your time.

[jerryhopper]

A spiced up bf2 mod with Advertisements inside.....


yea, what's next?

is EA gonna sell 2142 unlocks next? or do they keep that for BF3? (http://www.battlefieldranking.net/temp/advertisements_and_unlocks.swf)
( Funny note, the banner in the link runs on this site, yet people are blind, or stupid. )