Project Reality US Army Update Part 1

[Alex98uk]

Over the past few months we have been giving out small hints of the US Army coming to Project Reality but we have been keeping the details under wraps. Today we have the first part of a large update for Project Reality's US Army. That's right its official, the US Army is coming with the Project Reality v0.8 release!

In the past we have been doing a little bit of "mix and match" with the US assets in Project Reality, mixing US Army and USMC scenarios and weapons. For PR v0.8 there will be an official split, with the US Army using their own unique weapons and vehicles.

We are starting this update with the much awaited M4 Carbine, which is the standard issue rifle of the US Army. Newly added developer [R-DEV]Chuc has recently completed all variants. [R-DEV]Chuc has also been really cracking out loads of other excellent skins as well which we know you will all love (look for dev journal entries on this coming soon). The model and import for the M4 was done by [R-DEV]Katarn who also did the M16A4 models and imports. The texture was a joint effort between Millenia, [R-DEV]Vaiski, [R-DEV]Qwerty and [R-DEV]Chuc.


http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/thumbs/m4_render_thumb.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/m4_render.jpg) http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/thumbs/m4_acog_thumb.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/m4_acog.jpg) http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/thumbs/m4_iron_thumb.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/m4_iron.jpg)


In all these screens you will probably have noticed the new Digital ACU Camo on the solider model, which is the standard combat uniform of the US Army. These skins were done by [R-CON]Spush. They blend quite well into the terrain and surroundings at a distance! [R-CON]Spush has done work on several other soldier skins included that have already been included into PR v0.75. He's currently touching up Militia uniforms and updating US vehicle skins.


http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/thumbs/army_acu01_thumb.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/army_acu01.jpg) http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/thumbs/army_acu02_thumb.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/army_acu02.jpg) http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/thumbs/army_acu03_thumb.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/army_acu03.jpg)


Next up is one of the US Army's APCs (Armored Personel Carrier), The M1126 Stryker. The Stryker is an eight-wheeled, all-wheel-drive, all terrain vehicle which is used by light and mobile mechanized infantry units of the US Army. The Stryker is equipped with an RWS which means the 50cal gunner can sit inside the safety of the Stryker's armor while using the 50.cal MG. The Stryker's model and skin was done by retardedmonkey. The Import has been done by [R-DEV]Stinger. The vehicle coding is currently being done by [R-DEV]Jaymz.


http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/thumbs/m1126_stryker01_thumb.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/m1126_stryker01.jpg) http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/thumbs/m1126_stryker02_thumb.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/m1126_stryker02.jpg) http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/thumbs/m1126_stryker03_thumb.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/m1126_stryker03.jpg)


With the help of USI (http://usi.blacksandstudio.com) we have finally replaced the infamous vBF2 "beach party" open back HMMWV with a much more appropriate battle-ready model. Although its not as well equipped as current day HMMWV's as seen in Iraq, it provides more protection and is more authentic than the stock BF2 hummer. This updated HMMWV will be used by both the USMC and the US Army. The model, import and coding was done by jarleif and textures done by petemonster from the USI mod. We may add an even more realistic, heavily protected HMMWV model in a future update.


http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/thumbs/m998_hmmwv01_thumb.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/m998_hmmwv01.jpg) http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/thumbs/m998_hmmwv02_thumb.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/m998_hmmwv02.jpg) http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/thumbs/m998_hmmwv03_thumb.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr08/usarmy1/m998_hmmwv03.jpg)


We hope you enjoyed the first part of the US Army update, keep an eye on the Project Reality Website & Forums for the next part and also other information on upcoming changes for PR v0.8!

- The Project Reality Team

[Guiccia]

The new HMMWV looks cool with the closed door in the back. And btw, does PR have the HMMWV with a TOW mounted on it instead of a .50 Cal?

[Rhino]

The new HMMWV looks cool with the closed door in the back. And btw, does PR have the HMMWV with a TOW mounted on it instead of a .50 Cal?

yes we do, you can find it in the current version (v0.75) on Qwai River :D

[Erol]

Also on Jabal rhino :)

US Army? Looking awesome :D

[Irish Freedom]

Wait, I thought the US Army's standard-issue weapon was the M16A4; isn't the M4 carbine just for Special Forces and vehicle crews?

[Wizrdwarts]

Nah, I'm pretty sure they use both the M4 and M16 in the "regular" army. Or he could be referring to standard-issue for the US Army in-game.

[Rhino]

Wait, I thought the US Army's standard-issue weapon was the M16A4; isn't the M4 carbine just for Special Forces and vehicle crews?

No the M16A4 is that standard issue rifle of the USMC.

The M4 Carbine is the standard issue rifle of the US Army, thou they also use some M16A2 but very few and its not standard issue.

[L3adcannon]

USMC seem to have midget hands, or that M4 is huge. Or it`s just an illusion caused by the clipping hand.

Will there be 3D ironsights? one of the things that puts me off from playing PR are s*itty looking ISs. Can`t stand em for some reason.

[Rhino]

Will there be 3D ironsights? one of the things that puts me off from playing PR are s*itty looking ISs. Can`t stand em for some reason.

We use the same ironsight system as vbf2? thou we are moving towards 3d irons thou will take some time before we are fully there, lots of animating and modeling work to be done.

[Irish Freedom]

No the M16A4 is that standard issue rifle of the USMC.

The M4 Carbine is the standard issue rifle of the US Army, thou they also use some M16A2 but very few and its not standard issue.

Really? M4? I'm pretty sure it's the M16. The M4, like I said, is in the US Army, but not for most units. I really think it's just for vehicle crews and Special Forces. It is a carbine, after all.

[Rhino]

Really? M4? I'm pretty sure it's the M16. The M4, like I said, is in the US Army, but not for most units. I really think it's just for vehicle crews and Special Forces. It is a carbine, after all.

google helps :p

The primary individual weapons of the Army are the M16 series assault rifle[8] and its compact variant, the M4 carbine[9], which is slowly replacing selected M16 series rifles in some units and is primarily used by infantry, Ranger, and Special Operations forces.

Our MAs inform us that in a few years there will hardly be any M16s left in the US Army and as PR is set a few years in the future the M4 is the most appropriate weapon.

[bosco]

Just look at current photos from Iraq, pretty much every Army soldier on the frontlines has an M4.

[Lt Davis]

Our MAs inform us that in a few years there will hardly be any M16s left in the US Army and as PR is set a few years in the future the M4 is the most appropriate weapon.

I'd hope in a few years we'd be using something a bit more reliable than the M4. :p

[youm0nt]

USMC seem to have midget hands, or that M4 is huge. Or it`s just an illusion caused by the clipping hand.

Will there be 3D ironsights? one of the things that puts me off from playing PR are s*itty looking ISs. Can`t stand em for some reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RREEwWTLp7k
That's still a work in progress. There's a whole discussion on 3D ironsights here:
http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr-suggestions-feedback/37112-3d-iron-sights.html

[SonicPixel]

The M4 is just not the standard issue rifle of the US Army. That is not the truth, as much as folks may want to believe it to be. The standard issue rifle is the M16A3/4. The M4 is only used by Airborne/Air Mobile units and transportation units.

SpecOps forces have stopped using it as much as they used to. It's simply not powerful enough for frontline combat as it does not have the desired range or stopping power. It's great for guard duty and urban missions, but it is rapidly falling out of favor as a combat rifle.

The guys want 7.62 stopping power... because it gives them range and fewer rounds are needed to drop the enemy. The 5.56 ball ammo just does not have enough "umph" for the modern battlefield...

Believe what you will. I'll take personal experience and the word of my buddies in-service over Google and Wikipedia any day. :salute:

[Irish Freedom]

The M4 is just not the standard issue rifle of the US Army. That is not the truth, as much as folks may want to believe it to be. The standard issue rifle is the M16A3/4. The M4 is only used by Airborne/Air Mobile units and transportation units.

SpecOps forces have stopped using it as much as they used to. It's simply not powerful enough for frontline combat as it does not have the desired range or stopping power. It's great for guard duty and urban missions, but it is rapidly falling out of favor as a combat rifle.

The guys want 7.62 stopping power... because it gives them range and fewer rounds are needed to drop the enemy. The 5.56 ball ammo just does not have enough "umph" for the modern battlefield...

Believe what you will. I'll take personal experience and the word of my buddies in-service over Google and Wikipedia any day. :salute:

Thank you! The M16 remains the standard-issue, for all those people who said otherwise (no-offense)

[cptgarf]

God I hope they put a chinook in this update......so are you? huh huh

The M4 is just not the standard issue rifle of the US Army. That is not the truth, as much as folks may want to believe it to be. The standard issue rifle is the M16A3/4. The M4 is only used by Airborne/Air Mobile units and transportation units.

SpecOps forces have stopped using it as much as they used to. It's simply not powerful enough for frontline combat as it does not have the desired range or stopping power. It's great for guard duty and urban missions, but it is rapidly falling out of favor as a combat rifle.

The guys want 7.62 stopping power... because it gives them range and fewer rounds are needed to drop the enemy. The 5.56 ball ammo just does not have enough "umph" for the modern battlefield...

Believe what you will. I'll take personal experience and the word of my buddies in-service over Google and Wikipedia any day. :salute:






Well hero.....being that I am a CPT in the Army, here's the deal. The M4 is the standard issue for all infantry and manuver forces in the US Army. The M16 is religated to a very small amount of support units i.e. finance, AG, JAG. Not sure who you are talking to, but the Army made the M4 the standard weapon back in 1999. Just so you are squared away for the next guy who asks.

[[3MD]A|Pvt.iTrek]

Gotta back up Sonic here,I was reading on Yahoo how most soldiers aren't happy with the 5.56 round,saying when you have extremists jacked up on drugs they can absorb the 5.56 like nothing.

[L3adcannon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RREEwWTLp7k
That's still a work in progress. There's a whole discussion on 3D ironsights here:
http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr-suggestions-feedback/37112-3d-iron-sights.html
That looks awesome. I only play insurgency maos (more action, less hiking) and adding 3D ironsights just to the Aks would already be kick-***.

[Lt Davis]

Stephensolofo;2072981']Gotta back up Sonic here,I was reading on Yahoo how most soldiers aren't happy with the 5.56 round,saying when you have extremists jacked up on drugs they can absorb the 5.56 like nothing.

I believe what people disagree about is whether or not the M4 is standard issue, not about 5.56 stopping power.

[Rhino]

Well hero.....being that I am a CPT in the Army, here's the deal. The M4 is the standard issue for all infantry and manuver forces in the US Army. The M16 is religated to a very small amount of support units i.e. finance, AG, JAG. Not sure who you are talking to, but the Army made the M4 the standard weapon back in 1999. Just so you are squared away for the next guy who asks.

hehe, let these nubs believe what they want, they wont listen to any one but there own, limited outside knowledge it seems, they will probaly say any time soon that the British don't use the L85A2 :p

[bosco]

Well hero.....being that I am a CPT in the Army, here's the deal. The M4 is the standard issue for all infantry and manuver forces in the US Army. The M16 is religated to a very small amount of support units i.e. finance, AG, JAG. Not sure who you are talking to, but the Army made the M4 the standard weapon back in 1999. Just so you are squared away for the next guy who asks.

:thumbsup:

[gazzthompson]

US army offical website:

http://www.army.mil/factfiles/equipment/individual/m4.html

It achieves more than 85 percent commonality with the M16A2 rifle and will replace all .45 caliber M3 submachine guns, selected M9 pistols, and M16 series rifles.


also the DEV's have access to military advisors who are currently serving with the US army.

[waaah_wah]

Some people in here seem to be confusing M4 with M4A1...

[KatieWolf]

The M4 is still pretty much the main standard rifle for the today US Army. Don't believe me? I dare you to google up any pictures with the soldier wearing an ACU and see what kind of standard weapon he's carrying.

[Sike]

Stephensolofo;2072981']Gotta back up Sonic here,I was reading on Yahoo how most soldiers aren't happy with the 5.56 round,saying when you have extremists jacked up on drugs they can absorb the 5.56 like nothing.

maybe this is what they are looking for
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M468

[SonicPixel]

Well hero.....being that I am a CPT in the Army, here's the deal. The M4 is the standard issue for all infantry and manuver forces in the US Army. The M16 is religated to a very small amount of support units i.e. finance, AG, JAG. Not sure who you are talking to, but the Army made the M4 the standard weapon back in 1999. Just so you are squared away for the next guy who asks.

Well things do change and I'm sure that cancelling the XM8 made folks scramble as everyone was pretty sure that was the next best thing since sliced bread.

I have to take what you say at face value because I'm not in-service and my friends in-service are in detachments from their designated units. They do not carry M4s in those detachments. I probably shouldn't speak further on that because I'm getting close to violating OpSec rules.

Thanks for squaring me away. I greatly dislike not speaking the truth, so I have no problem being corrected.

However, you could choose to conduct yourself in a more respectful manner. But, that would have to be your choice and not mine.

In case anyone is wondering what I'm talking about, being called a "hero" in the Army is an insult.

[Rhino]

Well things do change and I'm sure that cancelling the XM8 made folks scramble as everyone was pretty sure that was the next best thing since sliced bread.

the XM8 was canceled ages ago?

[I am RKO]

Hey, Rhino, can we get some Javelins? They kicked *** in COD4.

[Rhino]

Hey, Rhino, can we get some Javelins? They kicked *** in COD4.

It should at something like £20,000 a shot, not sure on the exact figure but its hovering some where around there :p

EDIT: according to Ross Kemp its £60,000 a shot.

[SonicPixel]

the XM8 was canceled ages ago?

I guess it's in how one counts "ages"... :shock:

If a year is equivalent to an "age", then they cancelled it 3 ages ago (2005). :thumbsup:



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[SonicPixel]

IMO here's something which had an impact on the Army's plans:

Repairs have skyrocketed in recent years. The Army repaired 6,000 rifles and handguns per year before the Iraq war. This year, that number jumped to 200,000, said James Dwyer, with the Army Materiel Command.

from a USA Today news story: http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2008-06-25-Military-repairs_N.htm?csp=1

Consolidating and standardizing reduces operating costs. The Army is struggling with finding a balance to their needs to modernize their forces and expand their presence simultaneously. They can't do both because of the costs, so they've made cuts to non-essential programs in an attempt to modernize and field more troops.

/off topic

The PR update is very, very sweet. Good work, guys! :thumbsup:

[clementsjd1]

--WOW-- All of this talk about what is the standard issue weapon for the US army.. We are talking about a MOD for BF2.. If you want to know what the standard issue weapon for the US Army is.. And be able to say you are right, come join me. You got recruiters near you, everywhere you look until than.. Google is not gonna tell you what the standard issue weapon is, because as of now their is not one.. Some units get M16's and Some get M4's it is all based on what unit you are in, and what your role is.

To be quite honest.. Coming from some one who has been there. I Much Rather Use an M-4 than an M16 anyways.. M-16 way more accurate. M-4 Much better for Close Quarters Combat.

Take it how you will.. But I been in the army 7 years.. and been issued both weapons.. It all depends on your rotation.

[gazzthompson]

--WOW-- All of this talk about what is the standard issue weapon for the US army.. We are talking about a MOD for BF2.. If you want to know what the standard issue weapon for the US Army is.. And be able to say you are right, come join me. You got recruiters near you, everywhere you look until than.. Google is not gonna tell you what the standard issue weapon is, because as of now their is not one.. Some units get M16's and Some get M4's it is all based on what unit you are in, and what your role is.

To be quite honest.. Coming from some one who has been there. I Much Rather Use an M-4 than an M16 anyways.. M-16 way more accurate. M-4 Much better for Close Quarters Combat.

Take it how you will.. But I been in the army 7 years.. and been issued both weapons.. It all depends on your rotation.


PR is set in near future, and as i linked for the official US army website, the m4 is replacing the m16 as u probably know. also the DEV's to have access to serving military personal as there advisor's aswell. also as the mod is based on realism stuff like gameplay effects has compromises but main weapons for armys has to be right

[SonicPixel]

We're talking about Project Reality...

IMO real world information is valid here more so than most other forums on TGN.


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[clementsjd1]

PR is set in near future, and as i linked for the official US army website, the m4 is replacing the m16 as u probably know. also the DEV's to have access to serving military personal as there advisor's aswell. also as the mod is based on realism stuff like gameplay effects has compromises but main weapons for armys has to be right

And I don't disagree with you, infact you guys have done a great job with PR.. I love it..

I was just setting the record straight.. On the weapon.. keep up the great work.. Any hint for the community as to when 0.8 will release?

[Rhino]

And I don't disagree with you, infact you guys have done a great job with PR.. I love it..

I was just setting the record straight.. On the weapon.. keep up the great work.. Any hint for the community as to when 8.0 will release?

when its done :p

[youm0nt]

Heh, 8.0. 0.8.

[Lt Davis]

lol, We probably won't see 8.0 until Battlefield 4. :p

[clementsjd1]

My apologies, I meant 0.8 damn a bunch of funny little critics in here huh...

[[R-PUB]MrD]

We're testing v0.8 now. This build might just satisfy a lot of appetites. Things are getting ironed out, things are getting added, things are looking good.

[waaah_wah]

^^Sounds good;)