EA loves screwing ther customers(DICE Devs a reply would be nice)

[Cryptik]

Well I just got an email from EA Support saying that there will be no Australian Support for BF:BC as in No Australian Servers at all I am extreme pissed as I was stoked for this game couldn't wait but nope EA seem to ruin everything good.

I am not the only one that has received emails like this I saw it in a thread on the EA official BFBC forum many did the same thing as I did and emailed and got a reply saying No Local servers I will get the email up when I am able to access hotmail.

[Alex98uk]

Can you post proof please.

[StoneCold313]

Why don't you host your own server?

I remember reading from somewhere that DICE/EA handles the servers in the demo.

But you should be able to make your own server in the full game...

[Kyle]

BF:BC is a console game, you can't just host your won servers...

At least thats what I'm aware of.

[StoneCold313]

BF:BC is a console game, you can't just host your won servers...

At least thats what I'm aware of.

GTA 4 is a console game too, so is Metal Gear Online and Burnout Paradise... And you still can host your own server...

Damn, you can even make your own online season in NHL(:shock:)...

So don't say that you just can't do it... Since it's been done so many times before.

The hosting is bit easier on consoles, because the game makers doesn't have to worry that someone mods the server settings that it gives massive points to everyone. Well, atleast it's not their primary concern...

So i don't see why you shouldn't be able to host your own game...

:salute:

[Alex98uk]

I've pointed the issue in the direction of Mr Lexluther.

[sGkillfest]

BF:BC uses dedicated servers like most pc games (as did the last bf consol game) I would wait till the game comes out before getting to wound up as im sure there will be some oz servers

[StoneCold313]

BF:BC uses dedicated servers like most pc games (as did the last bf consol game) I would wait till the game comes out before getting to wound up as im sure there will be some oz servers

It could be that im wrong with the 'host your own server' thing with this one...

But that's because lots of games has the option to host your own server, and i never played BF:MC...

Well just have to wait and see when the full game is out...

[sGkillfest]

Normally you would be right.. But EA like dedicated servers for there console games because they are more stable than user created ones (run off your console) and also you don't have issues with people being kicked off if the host disconnects

[StoneCold313]

Normally you would be right.. But EA like dedicated servers for there console games because they are more stable than user created ones (run off your console) and also you don't have issues with people being kicked off if the host disconnects

In GTA 4 and MGO if the host disconnects, the hosting resposiblity moves to the next player. So you don't get kicked even if the original host disconnects...

Time to time in MGO i have lost connection because the hosting moves to someone with either really slow internet, or he's from the other side of the world...

But generally the host change goes smoothly...

[Flamesfan_21]

i wish i got that in GTA4, i occasionally get the "Host disconnected, returning to singleplayer" message, which is a real pain.

Then again, the internet this far out in the sticks isn't exactly reliable. :shakehead:

[StoneCold313]

^^

That could be that host/you lost connection to the RockStar end...

I get that message too sometimes when i try to start the MP...

[Alex98uk]

This information has been passed on and should be dealt with. Hopefully clarification will come soon.

[Cryptik]

Thanks Alex

[The_Eliminator]

Thanks Alex, i will be seriously pissed if this is true and cancel my preorder.

[KC-10]

Well, I too think it would be great for us Aussies to have our own BC server.

Who else is getting a server, because it wouldn't be right to whine if there are several other countries getting "ripped."

UK works for most of Europe..with possible need for a server in Germany/Sweden to cater for just about every country.

US works for North America, Canada and South America.

There SHOULD be one in Aus, for Oceania.

And there SHOULD be another located in Asia..

[StoneCold313]

LexLuther posted the server locations to the Battle Recorder thread. Im sure that he was talking about the demo servers...

Here's how they go
.::Update::.
Server Locations to my knowledge are:
US: West Coast (San Jose, California), East Coast (Some where, Virginia)
Europe: Geneva, Switzerland
Asia: Some Where, Japan

http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com/main/showthread.php?t=160259&page=2

[Limehouse]

Well, I too think it would be great for us Aussies to have our own BC server.

Who else is getting a server, because it wouldn't be right to whine if there are several other countries getting "ripped."

UK works for most of Europe..with possible need for a server in Germany/Sweden to cater for just about every country.

US works for North America, Canada and South America.

There SHOULD be one in Aus, for Oceania.

And there SHOULD be another located in Asia..

If US works for SA, surely the same logic could be applied to the Asian one (allegedly Japan) would work for AUS?

There should be an additional bunch of servers in SA as well... in addition need for an AUS one.

[Cryptik]

LexLuther posted the server locations to the Battle Recorder thread. Im sure that he was talking about the demo servers...

Here's how they go


http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com/main/showthread.php?t=160259&page=2Yay EA are now VERY MUCH FAIL!

High Ping Servers here I come.

Also Lime It isn't the same US and SA are "LINKED" while Australia and Japan are not.

I know what Im gunna do I am going to buy the game play out the 5 day trial if the servers lag I will take it back :yay:

[Limehouse]

Yay EA are now VERY MUCH FAIL!

High Ping Servers here I come.

Also Lime It isn't the same US and SA are "LINKED" while Australia and Japan are not.

I know what Im gunna do I am going to buy the game play out the 5 day trial if the servers lag I will take it back :yay:

France and Vietnam are 'linked', should they have to share servers?

[Cryptik]

No one should have to share servers I would be happy if I had low pings but thats not going to happen

[StoneCold313]

Yay EA are now VERY MUCH FAIL!

High Ping Servers here I come.

Also Lime It isn't the same US and SA are "LINKED" while Australia and Japan are not.

I know what Im gunna do I am going to buy the game play out the 5 day trial if the servers lag I will take it back :yay:

Remember that those are just the DEMO servers(i think)... Things still can change before the game is released...

But that "test drive" thing is really good idea... Atleast you won't be wasting your money to something what doesn't work, if it doesn't work...

[Cryptik]

Lets hope that we get some kind of confirmation soon

[The_Eliminator]

well it need to be soon, im going to cancel my preorder until i hear reviews now.

Not falling for another FFOW catastrophe (even though the game is good).

[KC-10]

Oceania is too big a region to forget about, Limehouse.

Asia is also, quite large, and how it will handle BOTH Oceania and Asia at the same time, is beyond me.

[antihero]

First I'd like to say to Cryptik that the title of your post is extremely rude and childish with the audacity to request an official response. Since you are only 17 I'll give you this advice, you attract more Bees with Honey. What that means is being a complete douche won't help you concern (which I agree with you is valid). Try being a bit mature and I bet the DICE guys floating here would have been willing to help out and/or post.

Now, have you played the Demo?

[Cryptik]

First I'd like to say to Cryptik that the title of your post is extremely rude and childish with the audacity to request an official response. Since you are only 17 I'll give you this advice, you attract more Bees with Honey. What that means is being a complete douche won't help you concern (which I agree with you is valid). Try being a bit mature and I bet the DICE guys floating here would have been willing to help out and/or post.

Now, have you played the Demo?I had changed the title but it was changed back.

EA keep doing it Australia is always left out EA don't host Australian Servers for games Hence they are screwing the customers.

And Just to make it Clear I am not insulting DICE they did a good job and I loved the Demo it is not there job to set up servers its EA's!

[StoneCold313]

Okay boys... Stop the fight before it even starts... :D

One question though...

Cryptik, you are playing the demo, right? Have you had any problems with it? (Mostly meaning constant lag)

Since if there hasn't been that much lag, there must be server(s) close to you. And if that is the case in the Demo, i don't see why it would change in the full game...

[Cryptik]

Okay boys... Stop the fight before it even starts... :D

One question though...

Cryptik, you are playing the demo, right? Have you had any problems with it? (Mostly meaning constant lag)

Since if there hasn't been that much lag, there must be server(s) close to you. And if that is the case in the Demo, i don't see why it would change in the full game...Example of what happens:

I get sniper I crouch I shoot a stationary enemy in the head and I miss then I see that he has lagged in to a vehicle! about 5-10mins later "You have lost connection to the Server check your Ethernet connection" yet I don't disconnect from PSN

When I do shoot someone in the head there is like a 2 second delay sometimes

[StoneCold313]

That sounds like a bad server... Meaning you are prolly connecting to Geneva or some other server what ain't no where near you...

I do have to agree that EA should hook guys/girls in Australia up too...

Unless this game has the 'host your own server' option, or EA sets up servers in Australia, then you guys/girls are pretty much screwed...

[Cryptik]

That sounds like a bad server... Meaning you are prolly connecting to Geneva or some other server what ain't no where near you...

I do have to agree that EA should hook guys/girls in Australia up too...

Unless this game has the 'host your own server' option, or EA sets up servers in Australia, then you guys/girls are pretty much screwed...No bad server happens on ll of them
There will be no option to host your own server due to them being run from a Computer rather than a PS3

[StoneCold313]

I meant with that 'Bad server' part that too much distance between you and the server. And that causes the lag.

For example, if i connect from Finland to Australia, i would get major lag due to the distance... And my ping would prolly be like 500+... :D

[Cryptik]

Yeah well like I said if there are no stable servers for Aus then its going back

[StoneCold313]

Yeah... That is prolly the best idea right now...

Since it's just waste of time(although we got the thread going pretty good) just to speculate if there's gonna be servers in AUS or not..

[Cryptik]

well Alex passed the info on but I guess DICE's hands are Tied :(

[Crisis]

BF:BC is a console game, you can't just host your won servers...

At least thats what I'm aware of.

I always assumed you picked from the option:

"Join Game"
"Host game"...

If you host it then is that the same as hosting it from your own internet connection?

I'm confused...

[David "Zuke" Z.]

... You can't host your own in BC is the problem though.

Quite frankly, the gameplay isn't great enough for me to buy it from the start, so :dead:

[antihero]

well Alex passed the info on but I guess DICE's hands are Tied :( Sorry about my slightly condescending post earlier, but these guys are people too and I sometimes defend them a bit toughly since barely anyone else does. :)

Though I'm still not 100% sure if you're saying you always get lag or just most of the time. You're on PS3 if I remember right because I did hear horror stories of the XBOX 360 getting lag that was fixed.

And trust me, if that even makes sense ;) EA will not let your region suffer for long if it means them losing sales. :)

[Alex98uk]

I would like to point out that the same rumours came to surface with Battlefield: Heroes. These were quashed, so take everything you hear unofficially with a pinch of salt.

If you hear it from Fudzilla, take it with an oildrum of salt.

[Cryptik]

I would like to point out that the same rumours came to surface with Battlefield: Heroes. These were quashed, so take everything you hear unofficially with a pinch of salt.

If you hear it from Fudzilla, take it with an oildrum of salt.I got it from the official EA forums. And an Email done myself

So since its been released maybe we can get some info now?

[MachineMadness]

Anyone on here secured a copy of bad company yet from AUS to test the lag?

Note: Im hearing reports from people that EB games are selling the game 2 days early than official AUS release date of 26th, cant confirm yet, im going into store tmrw to have a look.

update: Confirmed, its on sale, my close friend has it.

[Manzi]

Yea Walmart here had it the day before it was suppose to hit stores.

PSN ID: MrKLM

[Cryptik]

I have yet to see an Australian server and I still get DC'ed they should have added a Server Browser

[BrokenMachine]

I have yet to see an Australian server and I still get DC'ed they should have added a Server Browser

Yeah I agree a server browser would have been a good addition. I guess the fact that you can't host your own server is the reason why they didn't include this in the full game.

[Cryptik]

arghhh still DCING

[Mitch123]

I have very little experience with playing online with consoles. But i know people at school who have had the demo and loved it. Asked them about lag , they said they had none, so i am now assuming the problem is cause of YOUR net?
Oh btw im from Sunshine Coast Queensland

[Cryptik]

There is a whole thread over in the official BFBC forums every Australian Player has reported some kind of lag. Your friend might not know the definition of lag.

Also there still has been no Announcement on Aus servers.

[Cryptik]

Well before the game was released EA support said this

NO information can be released at this moment.

and now that the game is out its

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Subject
Will there be Australian Servers Up for Battlefield Bad Company?...

Discussion Thread Response (Phungshok Shangreiso)06/28/2008 08:25 PM
Hi,

Thank you for contacting Electronic Arts..

We may introduce sometime in future, but we cannot promise if it will ever be introduced. We apologize for any disappointment this may cause.

If there is anything else I can help you with please let me know.

Thank you,
Shangreiso
EA Online Support.


So now we know EA is definitely a bunch of F**ktards. That pull Marketing Scams.

That email means No Australian Servers AT ALL ARE COMING.

I know they said they might but thats to get your hopes up and get others buying the game.

F**k You EA.

[Manzi]

Hmm I will be sure to include this in my review for BFBC.

[Cryptik]

Thank you Manzi

[The_Eliminator]

What BS, we are one of the most isolated countries in the world, and now we are not even provided with server support, this is poor EA, very poor.

[Cryptik]

Ok I just emailed Kotaku Australia with the information I have I hope they Publish the warning..

[Cryptik]

This sucks The lag is getting worse and because of it I am restricted to sniping.... because of the lag Close Quarters firefights are toward the other person even though I shoot first...

I can believe EA are so arrogant an Cheap.

We pay more for games than US and yet we get no servers at all

[The_Eliminator]

Well im in Perth WA and have not experienced any lag whatsoever on my 360, im actually amazed at how well the online game is playing, im almost waiting for something **** to happen :s

[Cryptik]

Well im in Perth WA and have not experienced any lag whatsoever on my 360, im actually amazed at how well the online game is playing, im almost waiting for something **** to happen :sThere is lag... If you knife a fence there will be a one second delay same as shooting a explosive barrel THIS should not happen.

[The_Eliminator]

I have not experienced that AT ALL and i know what you mean because it happens to me all the time in FFOW, im serious so far the connection has been amazing and absolutely no lag which is a first for me.

[KC-10]

Ah.

As a helicopter pilot I have to deal with TANKS shooting shells and 50 cals at me. I have to deal with FLAK guns, shredding my helo's armour. I also have INFANTRY firing M95s, MG3/6s, and anything else that will reach the helo.

I have TEAMMATES, PISSED OFF THAT SOMEONE ELSE GOT THE GUNNER SEAT shooting me, whittling my helicopter to pieces.

And to top it all off, flying is completely worthless in the end, because flight sessions are affected by lag, to the point where my helicopter jumps and skips around, there is no smooth flight at all! No precision, which is what combat flying is all about..

I think I am safe in CQC, because I see the enemy isn't aiming at me directly, angled off by about 30 degrees. I die, and I see their weapon "snap to" where I was standing. Never experienced that in any other game (except for the super laggy hitboxes of BF2).

I have a 5000 Kb connection with TPG, and am in NSW.

The Eliminator, is it possible you in WA are connecting to an Asian server? And we in NSW are connecting to the East Coast of the US, inducing more lag?

[Cryptik]

Ah.
I have a 5000 Kb connection with TPG, and am in NSW.

The Eliminator, is it possible you in WA are connecting to an Asian server? And we in NSW are connecting to the East Coast of the US, inducing more lag?That wouldn't surprise me but I thought there were no Asian Servers


I have ADSL2

[The_Eliminator]

Wow that sounds bad KC, i havent noticed anything like that at all.

Although i have just noticed the delay between barrel explosions and cutting fences Cryptik described earlier., but thats nothing to moan about.

[Manzi]

well as you could see i did mention this in my review. EA did read it hopefully something works out for you guys.

[Flamesfan_21]

Lag is hitting me pretty hard on the PS3, and there is mention of other people having the same problem on the Gamespot forums, not sure if 360's are having the same issue. Its like you run forwards, stop, then slide back to where you were.

Maybe they are screwing around with their servers or something because it has been fine.

[Cryptik]

well as you could see i did mention this in my review. EA did read it hopefully something works out for you guys.Yeah I saw that Manzi though I can't see us getting Aussie servers :(

[The_Eliminator]

Lag is hitting me pretty hard on the PS3, and there is mention of other people having the same problem on the Gamespot forums, not sure if 360's are having the same issue. Its like you run forwards, stop, then slide back to where you were.

Maybe they are screwing around with their servers or something because it has been fine.

wow thats bad and hasnt happened to me at all.

[KC-10]

Grrr, I can get shot from around corners too. I noticed, that 'visually' I ran straight around, and well behind a shipping container, while being shot. Thinking I was safe I - well, I had no time to do any more, because I died to find my body/kit were well around the corner of aforementioned container.

I have also experienced the 'pullback' issue described by Flamesfan.

OT: Flamesfan, what is your PSN ID?

[BrokenMachine]

Lag is hitting me pretty hard on the PS3, and there is mention of other people having the same problem on the Gamespot forums, not sure if 360's are having the same issue. Its like you run forwards, stop, then slide back to where you were.

Maybe they are screwing around with their servers or something because it has been fine.

Yeah I've had some pretty bad lag recently but I find the best thing to do is to leave the game and try and find another server. It sometimes takes a while but usually I can find one that is lag free. It would have been really helpful if you had a server browser so you could check your ping and what not but I guess with us having to use EA's servers only they wanted to control what server you'd be joining and hence we have the lag problem.

[MachineMadness]

Grrr, I can get shot from around corners too. I noticed, that 'visually' I ran straight around, and well behind a shipping container, while being shot. Thinking I was safe I - well, I had no time to do any more, because I died to find my body/kit were well around the corner of aforementioned container.

I have also experienced the 'pullback' issue described by Flamesfan.



same....

I've figured how to kill people who are running now, i have to aim probably a good 1-2m infront to compensate for lag, and that cant be a game mechanic...10m away from the target and i have to compensate that much....