Just Cancelled my 2142 downloader

[ed8756]

I just got done talking to Credit Company to cancel the charge for 2142 on ea downloader. I was pretty mad when i purchased and found out they bumped the release dates and screwed the downloaders, but this ingame adware is just BS! No way am I paying for a game that has adware. Dont let them get away with this...

[Maj2004]

Same here. I was going to drive to the mall this wednesday, but now I'm just going to do schoolwork.

[[MyIS]Dan]

Im sure there will be away to disable this.. If EA/Dice see all these post's then they might just allow you to disable it.. That or your spyware detector might disable it :p

[AT39]

I don't give a **** and will play the game because it's fun and I trust EA. :D

[Digikid]

I will try my best to block that junk....but I still want the game.

[古強者死神]

and I trust EA.

quote of the day!

lol i would put that in my sig

[Vundu]

I get where you guys are coming from as the ad crap is ridiculous.

I will play this one but may have put me off future BF releases and may stick to my console gaming.

[古強者死神]

if you block it digikid they can sue you for violation of TOS lol

[Asrath]

This ads will be useless the ppl who is playing wont stop to look at them. The ppl say that there are ads in the demo, i haven't noticed them i'm busy trying to survive against a tank with the recon kit.
Whats wrong with the ads? You have ads in the TV, you have ads when web browsing and u can block it and now u'll have ads in battlefield but here u're free to see them not like in the TV or like popups that caould disturb gameplay.

[Digikid]

if you block it digikid they can sue you for violation of TOS lol

Tough. :mad:

[Beerman]

I have crap internet as it is, if its more laggy than bf2 no matter how much I love the game Im returning it.

[ed8756]

The first patch is most likely going to be a spyware update. lol. but seriously...

[古強者死神]

I dont know how far they would go tho, I think its in there best intrest to let those of us who would block it do so, but knowing them they might tie it to the master server and if they dont detect the spyware' stream of data kick you from the master sever, and who knows maybe even ban your CD key after more than one offense.

[Beerman]

Damn EA to hell, I cant wait till C&C come sout, maybe its hetter than this crap (another EA game lol)

[ed8756]

I dont know how far they would go tho, I think its in there best intrest to let those of us who would block it do so, but knowing them they might tie it to the master server and if they dont detect the spyware' stream of data kick you from the master sever, and who knows maybe even ban your CD key after more than one offense.

i bet your right on the mark haha, i swear i dont put anything past these guys anymore.

[Beerman]

I dont know how far they would go tho, I think its in there best intrest to let those of us who would block it do so, but knowing them they might tie it to the master server and if they dont detect the spyware' stream of data kick you from the master sever, and who knows maybe even ban your CD key after more than one offense.

Thats probably right on the nose. Too bad I couldn't sue them for something darn.

[A5ko]

I dont know how far they would go tho, I think its in there best intrest to let those of us who would block it do so, but knowing them they might tie it to the master server and if they dont detect the spyware' stream of data kick you from the master sever, and who knows maybe even ban your CD key after more than one offense.

I don't suspect this to be right on the nose I EXPECT this to be. If EA will stupe so far as to bully you into playing their games all i can say is phuck them and their ballsed up company.

Whoever said EA werent a faceless money grabbing bastich of a company probably just choked on their humble pie, and to think i used to play the old EA Ice Hockey games on the megadrive, i always wondered why that ice cream van was always parked across the street with the sattelite on top.

[Spork]

I hope you all cancel yoru orders, DONT PLAY THE GAME, get stuffed.

If you seriously think that any of this "adware" is going to corrupt your PC then thats your own lame business and go play CSS or what ever other ******** you want. Halo wars.

No one is forcing you to click the adverts, so therefore you wont be effected by the ads.

IF you think that EA would ever do anything to harm anyones computers then your a damn and absolute fool. Do you know how much money they would loose from harming peoples computers through a game?

Cheers :)

[A5ko]

I hope you all cancel yoru orders, DONT PLAY THE GAME, get stuffed.

If you seriously think that any of this "adware" is going to corrupt your PC then thats your own lame business and go play CSS or what ever other ******** you want. Halo wars.

No one is forcing you to click the adverts, so therefore you wont be effected by the ads.

IF you think that EA would ever do anything to harm anyones computers then your a damn and absolute fool. Do you know how much money they would loose from harming peoples computers through a game?

Cheers :)


Getting abit sick of replying to these kinds of posts now. Get off your EA pedestal and THINK with ur brain for a second. If EA are so caring WHY THE PHUCK do they HIDE the EULA INSIDE the game box which you CANNOT return once open?

That's not caring at all, thats FRUSTRATINGLY unfair and damn well illegal in my books.

[Beerman]

Getting abit sick of replying to these kinds of posts now. Get off your EA pedestal and THINK with ur brain for a second. If EA are so caring WHY THE PHUCK do they HIDE the EULA INSIDE the game box which you CANNOT return once open?

That's not caring at all, thats FRUSTRATINGLY unfair and damn well illegal in my books.

Where I go, I can return it if opened. They just check it over and take it.

[Spork]

Where I go, I can return it if opened. They just check it over and take it.

Same as.

EA wouldnt go as far to **** UP YOUR PC because no matter what country your from, that is Illegal EVERYWHERE and if its not your country sucks.

Cheers :)

[*FMJ*Power]

I hope you all cancel yoru orders, DONT PLAY THE GAME, get stuffed.

If you seriously think that any of this "adware" is going to corrupt your PC then thats your own lame business and go play CSS or what ever other ******** you want. Halo wars.

No one is forcing you to click the adverts, so therefore you wont be effected by the ads.

IF you think that EA would ever do anything to harm anyones computers then your a damn and absolute fool. Do you know how much money they would loose from harming peoples computers through a game?

Cheers :)


its the whole idea of them sticking their nose where it doesnt belong, its like paying full price to go see a movie and then having 20 minutes f commercials during the movie.

its not click on banners , its the billboards in the game itself, they will change every round and you can exspect more billboards to get added in a patch. some people seem to be confised and think this means the pop up window when you load the gamre, its not.

i dont think people are worried about ea corrupting the pc's, its about protecting their pricacy and its just going to open the floodgates for this kind of crap in every game. the line has to be drawn somewhere and the only way its going to happen is if it hurts their bottom line. i mean think about it, can you imagine the extra cash they are making off thoes adds, its like a pro ball player doing endorsements, they will end up making more off thoes ads than the game itself.

[A5ko]

Where I go, I can return it if opened. They just check it over and take it.

Wont apply to any shops im near, which is a city. PC games normally NO NO's simply becos of CD key abuse

[Sgt_Stu]

oh noes teh adware will see my p0rn!

[A5ko]

oh noes teh adware will see my p0rn!

Although perhaps a common problem people will come across, what annoys me with all of this
boils down to 2 truths...

1). They hide this inside game packaging to CON people out of cash that don't want it on their system. They also make no other efforts to mention this until after sale.

2). They share 'anon information' (which is? and how much of it?) to other countries with no explination as to WHY they are doing this. So im supposed to just shut up and accept random information is being passed around to other people am i?

WTF kind of a company are EA when they think sneaking this little gem in so late won't bother to many people.

[lmimmfn]

Well i uninstalled the demo last Friday when i found all this out and decided that i cannot whatsoever invest in this type of crap, i also send a PM to Colin saying in no way can i be a part of it, and since then here ive been considered to be in the 2142 hater camp and told to p*** off, which i dont care about as long as you guys found out before you handed your money over

[A5ko]

Well i uninstalled the demo last Friday when i found all this out and decided that i cannot whatsoever invest in this type of crap, i also send a PM to Colin saying in no way can i be a part of it, and since then here ive been considered to be in the 2142 hater camp and told to p*** off, which i dont care about as long as you guys found out before you handed your money over

Unfortunatly though, you like many of us will just be a simple stat that EA couldnt give 2 shets about. I assume if something does go wrong as in someone unlawfully using my payment details i can blame this on EA as im playing a game that shares information abroad?

I mean EA are assuming FULL responsibilty from THEIR service right? Its safe, they say its safe.. so they must be...

Erm... i think not.

[Sgt_Stu]

i was being sarcastic about the p0rn..
anyway if they werent trustworthy and did something like give imformation they couldnt risk the amount of lawsuits against them by breaching there contract.

[Absurdus]

Unfortunatly though, you like many of us will just be a simple stat that EA couldnt give 2 shets about. I assume if something does go wrong as in someone unlawfully using my payment details i can blame this on EA as im playing a game that shares information abroad?

I mean EA are assuming FULL responsibilty from THEIR service right? Its safe, they say its safe.. so they must be...

Erm... i think not.

If anything does happen, EA wont get touched, the lawyers will see to that... you can guarantee EA have their asse(t)s well covered.

[EyeofG]

guys, that patch is only for the people who have buy the DVD of BF2142

[A5ko]

i was being sarcastic about the p0rn..
anyway if they werent trustworthy and did something like give imformation they couldnt risk the amount of lawsuits against them by breaching there contract.

So that automatically means they won't? The information is passed on out of their responsibilty to other people. What if THEY abuse the information? Who is to blame? Well partly the abusers but mainly EA for capturing the information.

This is all speculation and it MAY not ever happen. But if someone is playing this game and it happens do you think for a second they are going to say. "Ahh it won't be EA's fault, they are really trustworthy, even though they hid the EULA inside an unreturnable game".

[[MyIS]Steve]

people today are bombarded with ads everywhere, tv, billboards, even on clothing and food, and you would have to be pretty naive to think it would never come to gaming..

[kj23kjg1234l124]

people today are bombarded with ads everywhere, tv, billboards, even on clothing and food, and you would have to be pretty naive to think it would never come to gaming..

yea, uhh, thnx for the msg god. Can you zap me a coke, kkthnx.

[A5ko]

IndianScout;76193']people today are bombarded with ads everywhere, tv, billboards, even on clothing and food, and you would have to be pretty naive to think it would never come to gaming..

Erm, not really sure the point of that statement. The problem is EA have not quite grasped what an advert is... last time i checked, it wasnt hiding something from a customer then beating them into submission so they can't retrieve their STOLEN money.

[AJED (G.Drew)]

guys, that patch is only for the people who have buy the DVD of BF2142

clap-clap-clap someone has actually managed to read the text :D
THE PATCH IS ONLY FOR THE DVD, EA DOWNLOADER ALREADY HAS THE PATCH INCORPERATED IN THE DOWNLOADED VERSION!

but this is what REALLY bugs me:
My EA downloader says the game will be realesed on the 19th :confused:
now if im not mistaken, is it not supposed to come out on the wednesday?
so:
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!

[A5ko]

clap-clap-clap someone has actually managed to read the text :D
THE PATCH IS ONLY FOR THE DVD, EA DOWNLOADER ALREADY HAS THE PATCH INCORPERATED IN THE DOWNLOADED VERSION!

but this is what REALLY bugs me:
My EA downloader says the game will be realesed on the 19th :confused:
now if im not mistaken, is it not supposed to come out on the wednesday?
so:
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!

Erm wtf, that seemed a little off topic

[Sgt_Stu]

in the contract it says they wont give out imformation that could track back to you - so if it did then you could sue the balls off of them.

[kj23kjg1234l124]

Offtopic? webzen (http://www.webzengames.com/pr/prView.asp?cPage=1&PrsIdx=19&) respect.

[Tonsilgon]

I bet half of the people that scream "how can they do that" haev at least half a dozen payback-, club-, etc-cards in their pocket, where the companies can even better trace not only which ads they looked at, but what they bought and where and when.
And 99% of the people that complain here will shut up in a little over 1 day and play that game. The other percent will only not play at once, because they have problems with installing and running the game, because they caught some nasty rootkit or virus by surfing on some sex-sites.

Of course they want to know if you look at their ads. They need "hits" to show to their customers to justify or raise the prices for those ads. That is done everywhere people advertise. It's nothing new and nothing out of the ordinary.

But, hey, they promised us better support because of the ads. Let's wait if this will be true. If they don't... flame them!

I am sure the moment the ads become active, there will be enough people to monitor exactly, what the game "sends" back to them. Only info about ingame-ads or also other information.... If they do that.... flame them!

But stop crying about things that happen to you with ads already every day... I don't care if there is a Miller-ad on my screen when I scan for enemies with my sniper-rifle. As long as the graphic fits to the screen.

[Sgt_Stu]

Ill admit if these "extra funds" dont go to free expansion/boosters and end up lining the managers pockets i wont be pleased.

[A5ko]

I bet half of the people that scream "how can they do that" haev at least half a dozen payback-, club-, etc-cards in their pocket, where the companies can even better trace not only which ads they looked at, but what they bought and where and when.
And 99% of the people that complain here will shut up in a little over 1 day and play that game. The other percent will only not play at once, because they have problems with installing and running the game, because they caught some nasty rootkit or virus by surfing on some sex-sites.

Of course they want to know if you look at their ads. They need "hits" to show to their customers to justify or raise the prices for those ads. That is done everywhere people advertise. It's nothing new and nothing out of the ordinary.

But, hey, they promised us better support because of the ads. Let's wait if this will be true. If they don't... flame them!

I am sure the moment the ads become active, there will be enough people to monitor exactly, what the game "sends" back to them. Only info about ingame-ads or also other information.... If they do that.... flame them!

But stop crying about things that happen to you with ads already every day... I don't care if there is a Miller-ad on my screen when I scan for enemies with my sniper-rifle. As long as the graphic fits to the screen.

Ok i'll sum up what i think of the situation.

Seeing Ad's ingame on billboards - Does not bother me
Knowing ad's a view will determine what appears in game - Does not bother me
Knowing info will be shared abroad - A little hacked off
Omitting the fact this will all happen so close to release and HIDING it in their packaging to void some returns - Simply unacceptable practice which only makes me believe that they are up to something if they won't freely mention a thing like this.

[Patman]

IndianScout;76193']people today are bombarded with ads everywhere, tv, billboards, even on clothing and food, and you would have to be pretty naive to think it would never come to gaming..

It's already in the gaming world but those companies who does AD's in gaming provides it for FREE (like Anarchy online).

You just have to realize that those billboards take part of your rendering time from your video card. Even if it's a very small amount they still take rendering time that could be used for something COOL.

Imagine buying LOTR to find ads in the dvd or better yet - like in this case - ADS in the movie. How cool would that be. That would make it very authentic, sure.

[Apostle]

I just got done talking to Credit Company to cancel the charge for 2142 on ea downloader. I was pretty mad when i purchased and found out they bumped the release dates and screwed the downloaders, but this ingame adware is just BS! No way am I paying for a game that has adware. Dont let them get away with this...

Ride on brother, I'm with you.

I don't give a **** and will play the game because it's fun and I trust EA. :D

You've misplaced your trust there buddy.

IndianScout;76193']people today are bombarded with ads everywhere, tv, billboards, even on clothing and food, and you would have to be pretty naive to think it would never come to gaming..

Naive yes, but that doesn't mean we have to accept it. In your own words, advertising is everywhere, I play a computer game to relax and have fun, to forget about all this rubbish being shoved down our necks.

[Bungalow_Bill]

Only you can prevent invasive ingame advertisements. Don't buy 2142 (which is a subpar game even without the advertisements) and EA will get the message.

For all the the fanbois who don't care... enjoy getting your computer probed for the privledge of playing this game you paid for. I hope you don't mind that EA views you as nothing more than a cash plant in their field. Either that or don't bother installing this software you just bought on an internet capable machine (software which is now opened in order to view this warning and thus unreturnable to the original retailer).

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4729/igavy2jpgov5.jpg

edit: On a second read through of the "spyware warning" leaflet they stick in your game box I noticed that they claim they only collect "anonymous information" yet in the same sentence they state they WILL record your IP address. The same IP address that is attached to your ISP and links you directly to your name & home address. The same IP address that tracking cookies have seen browsing this website and that website. You'd be shocked about how much personal information these big advertising crooks know about you. Don't be shocked if you're on the internet browsing for a new speedo and the next day in 2142 you've got a big speedo billboard staring you in the face.

[EyeofG]

I don't know what to do, cuz I pre-ordered BF2142.
If this "Spyware is NOT going to mess anthing up on my computer/ not going to spawn Ads everytime I go on th net, then I am fine with it
But if notran or something picks it up, I don't know what to do

[MrBenis]

I'd just like you guys to know, that they have indeed mentioned it online so if you buy the game, and install it (after clicking accept for the EULA) then you'll probably find you have 0 (zero) rights to claim *anything*.

EA are smart at taking money, and keeping it. Currently I'm not buying 2142. We gotta see if this game flops or not, first.

[EyeofG]

I'd just like you guys to know, that they have indeed mentioned it online so if you buy the game, and install it (after clicking accept for the EULA) then you'll probably find you have 0 (zero) rights to claim *anything*.

EA are smart at taking money, and keeping it. Currently I'm not buying 2142. We gotta see if this game flops or not, first.

That sucks

[Sgt_Stu]

I think as protaganist said you should keep your money and if it turns out theres nothing sinister about all this then you COULD buy the game and if there is then you can continue hating them on these forums.

[AJED (G.Drew)]

I don't know what to do, cuz I pre-ordered BF2142.
If this "Spyware is NOT going to mess anthing up on my computer/ not going to spawn Ads everytime I go on th net, then I am fine with it
But if notran or something picks it up, I don't know what to do

there has to be a disable button
either that or we spam the hell out of the EA forums with: I DONT WANT NO FKING ADS IN MY GAME!

[moltenblack]

You all knew about the ads when you preordered.
No one knows for sure what the effect of these ads will be but that dosn't stop you all giving false information as thou it were fact.

This is the most amusing thread iv'e seen in days.

Mass hysteria in action...

[A5ko]

I think as protaganist said you should keep your money and if it turns out theres nothing sinister about all this then you COULD buy the game and if there is then you can continue hating them on these forums.


I'll probably end up doing this and of course NOTHING may happen but it still does not mean im pissed at EA. I don't see why after paying for a product i should have my privacy invaded.

It's a game, you play games to enjoy yourself not have ur privacy violated. I mean WTF EA have gone into the security sector now?

What next EA sponserd CCTV camera's.

[jodoanyore]

i just wanna play bf2142, i'm done with bf2 and it doesn't matter if i see and ad in the game as well it doesn't affect my ping

[batdoguk]

Apart from the press release about dynamic in-game advertising for BF2142 (issued on 31st August by the way - well before most people will have pre-ordered), I haven't read anything concrete about how it will be achieved and how it will look in-game. All of this whining is the usual "wtf" knee-jerk reaction to half-baked facts.

As long as I don't get an usherette trying to sell "DICE Cream" to me between rounds then I don't care...

[The_KELRaTH]

My concern isn't so much with the ad system now but where it will end up if users lay down and accept it.

Consider this quote from IGA "who will receive targeted advertising during and between gameplay sessions" - note the BETWEEN or in layman's terms you will end up waiting 30s to 2 minutes between each round to be forced to watch an ad like on TV - but in this case you won't be able to fast forward.

Sure you could block the ad system but you will still end up waiting for 30 sec to 2 mins of a blank screen which would be just as annoying.

If you accept it now all that will happen is it will become more & more invasive.

I'm not suggesting BF2142 will have these between session ads to start with but this is where it will all ultimately end up and ruining online gaming.

At least there should be some form of choice as seen in other apps such as no ads if you pay for retail version or pay a paultry some if ad based - isn't that how TV works after all.

[Sgt_Stu]

ill also admit that keeping this hidden until you open the box is bad form but thank gawd for forums ey :)

[Killa4live]

If there would be adware in the game, the game will not be allowed to be sold in Europe.
EDIT: EA, get ready to get Nelly Kroese on your ***, she already owned Microsoft.

[A5ko]

My concern isn't so much with the ad system now but where it will end up if users lay down and accept it.

Consider this quote from IGA "who will receive targeted advertising during and between gameplay sessions" - note the BETWEEN or in layman's terms you will end up waiting 30s to 2 minutes between each round to be forced to watch an ad like on TV - but in this case you won't be able to fast forward.

Sure you could block the ad system but you will still end up waiting for 30 sec to 2 mins of a blank screen which would be just as annoying.

If you accept it now all that will happen is it will become more & more invasive.

I'm not suggesting BF2142 will have these between session ads to start with but this is where it will all ultimately end up and ruining online gaming.

At least there should be some form of choice as seen in other apps such as no ads if you pay for retail version or pay a paultry some if ad based - isn't that how TV works after all.


If this happened then i would refuse to buy ANY online game for PC or any platform which intrudes so much. Advertising is everywhere in the world you can't go anywhere without seeing it. People play games to enjoy themselves and escape the grind of real life...

So what, we'd have to watch phucking ad's stating that 40% women have bad thrush. I downright refuse to accept this as the future of online gaming.

If this happens then we will have a list of companies that are RESPONSIBLE for destroying the online communities.

and please, don't anyone dare state that they would be happy with waiting between rounds watching an advert because its people like you that SCREW up communities.

I don't accept paying a monthly fee to remove ad's EITHER so before any of you money grabbing a-holes for companies decide this is a good idea then ur VERY VERY wrong.


An angry A5ko....

[MoZ]

Where I go, I can return it if opened. They just check it over and take it.

I should go there from now on :)

[Absurdus]

If there would be adware in the game, the game will not be allowed to be sold in Europe.
EDIT: EA, get ready to get Nelly Kroese on your ***, she already owned Microsoft.

Different agreement for the european market, you can be sure EA have all this type of thing sorted by their legal deparment...

[Bungalow_Bill]

Ingame advertisements started out innocently enough. First it was very minor references to real life products, then minor heavily cloaked (almost hidden) ingame artwork referencing a real world product or service. Then we had the little popups in certain games (BF2 "Message from EA!" is a perfect example). Then came actual ingame advertisments, nothing cloaked about them. Then we've got HEAVY ingame advertisements (take EA Fight Night 3 for example) that are extremely distracting. Then dynamic ads that are streamed from the internet.

Now in BF2142 you've got tons of distracting, intrusive ingame ads that stream off the internet, software that mines your computer for "anonymous" information, valuable CPU cycles dedicated to monitoring how you INTERACT with the advertisements in the game. You are the sheep and EA is holding the sheers.

What is next guys?

Between round loads in Battlefield 3 will you get "special offer" inbetween round loads with an annoying "Buy it now!" button that automatically adds a purchase to your EA account? How long until EA ties your ingame nickname with your real life name and address and starts spamming your real mailbox? Who knows what kind of whacky and ridiculous advertising techniques these lame ducks will cook up.

One thing I do know for certain... these advertising goons are currently probing. They're trying to figure out "How much will the end user tolerate to play a game they enjoy?". As long as you keep buying these games and the sales do not slump that'll essentially be you saying "Hey IGA! I love these new ads because they keep me up to date and market innovative products and services to me right in my favorite game!". So they'll keep getting more and more intrusive (as the companies advertising want to brand themselves) till the sales start to slump and then *maybe* they'll back off and stop making them worse.

I say it's in everyones best interest if we (the gamers) send them the message that enough is enough.

[Sethonan]

A5ko, have you considered giving up your online life entirely? Because that's our future right there. I just can't remember the time before telemarketing. Or mail advertising... The matrix has us...

[A5ko]

A5ko, have you considered giving up your online life entirely? Because that's our future right there. I just can't remember the time before telemarketing. Or mail advertising... The matrix has us...

If advertising takes such a hold over games as it could, i see no reason to continue playing online. It seems crazy to even consider the 'death' of online play but advertising seems the quickest and most effective way of killing it. (along with all games coming with looney subscription fee's)

I want this game to succeed i want to see EA moving on to bigger and better things, im a gamer i WANT to play kick *** games. i do not want to be sitting at my screen watching adverts, believe it or not i have such a device... known as a television.

[[MyIS]Steve]

EA has an announcement planned, so lets all please be patient until then..


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