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zoltorg
10-18-2006, 11:22 PM
I know that there are many 2142 gamers who are salivating over their newfound fun coming from this game and that there are definatly people wanting to have fun with the Lambert Carbine side of recon.

This kit has its real good points and one of the most popular items is the IT-33 Optical camoflage. I among others would like to hear people stories about this item, its sound, its duration, and tactics used with it. I think it would also be great it people could post of screenshots of the camo in action so we can see it for ourselves.

I hope the community pulls through, thanks everyone!

StealthClobber
10-18-2006, 11:32 PM
Roger that.

I once walked up the stairs, by an enemy recon guy, RIGHT NEXT TO HIM, and stabbed him in the back.

I'll be back with some screenies.

I wish I had the Lambert Carbine, I should, 240/200 points, but the stats server is so SLOW today.

exhilator
10-18-2006, 11:33 PM
We want screenshots!!

StealthClobber
10-18-2006, 11:35 PM
I said, ILL BE BACK.

FIN
10-18-2006, 11:42 PM
http://homepage.mac.com/greendesert/iblog/C1620737936/E512425/Media/BoxOnHead_5250.jpg

StealthClobber
10-18-2006, 11:46 PM
When off

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9050/screen000df4.png

When on, notice hand is 90% invisible, and screen is blurred, but not too much.
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5793/screen001ew1.png

Lazy8s
10-18-2006, 11:50 PM
http://homepage.mac.com/greendesert/iblog/C1620737936/E512425/Media/BoxOnHead_5250.jpg

BWAHAHAHAHAHA I actually lol'd....then I lol'd again the second time I looked back. Now I'm LOLing while thinking about it while I type. GD that was a funny picture

Chasepwner
10-18-2006, 11:51 PM
The TI-33 lasts quite a long time, but is loud and the blur is quite noticable. The Lambert Carbine is pretty good, but the recoil is sorta high.

FIN
10-18-2006, 11:52 PM
Nice graphics clobber.

StealthClobber
10-18-2006, 11:54 PM
Thank you, I am running a NVIDIA 6800 XT/GS on 1024x768, with most settings set to Medium, AA set to 2x.

nimski
10-18-2006, 11:55 PM
I was truckin up on a random supply crate earlier, none the wiser, when I saw a fuzzy blob running away. I was a bit shocked but it was nothing a tank shell couldn't manage. :D

Seriously... don't so much as breathe if someone is looking in your direction, you ruin the whole thing.

zoltorg
10-18-2006, 11:57 PM
This is great but more screenies of OTHER PEOPLE in camo would be greatt!!

FIN
10-18-2006, 11:59 PM
Thank you, I am running a NVIDIA 6800 XT/GS on 1024x768, with most settings set to Medium, AA set to 2x.

sweet! I've been running on medium but that looks way more beautiful!

FIN
10-19-2006, 12:06 AM
you know how there's the:
mine>scope>stabaliser>sniper route and the:
Demo>netbat>camo>carbine route.
Well can you criss cross or do you hvae to stricktly go up each. As in:
Mine>scope>camo>sniper?

Thanks,
~Fin

Desertfox
10-19-2006, 01:08 AM
Nope, you can criss-cross.

But the tactic I used in beta was

Camo up to tanks, pull out your C7, put 2 of them on, camo away, boom.

kenof2142
10-19-2006, 01:13 AM
5 bucks says they'll make it to where you can't use your weapons while in camo in a later patch due to "balance" issues.

Iconix
10-19-2006, 01:18 AM
I dont have the game but I thought that the camo shuts down when you switch to something other than the pad?? can someone clear this up

zuiquan1
10-19-2006, 01:34 AM
5 bucks says they'll make it to where you can't use your weapons while in camo in a later patch due to "balance" issues.

lol you already cant use any weapons while active camo is on ;)


but you dont get your 5 bucks, doesnt count:D

kenof2142
10-19-2006, 01:35 AM
Ahhh, didn't know that.

<---playing in the morning after work ;) .

StealthClobber
10-19-2006, 01:48 AM
It's kinda hard to get pictures of other people in camo, unless you ask them to stand still with it.

Either they leave it on too shortly, or they are enemys, and you kill them! :D

I'll try to get a screeny of another dude with it on. BTW, I got my Lambert Carbine! This gun OWNS!

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5296/screen003hr2.png

Beerman
10-19-2006, 01:51 AM
Only seen it the once, some guy RDXing a walker. I wanna try the lambert though.

StealthClobber
10-19-2006, 01:58 AM
Do! The Lambert is a great gun.

Pros:
--GREAT ACCURACY (at distances, burst fire, at close, just spray in 5-7 shot bursts, will kill them)

--Red Dot Scope(then again, what weapon doesn't have a scope)

-- If you unlock the APM, you can use that with this gun

Cons:
This only seems to happen to me for some reason, but when I switch fire, it always takes me a couple trys to get single shot, ON ANY GUN I TRY! But a while ago I had to switch fire 6 times to get to single shot. o_O

Yes, using the Active Camo to sneak up on vehicles is very handy! But the only downside is, the vehicle might find you before you get a safe distance away to not be blown up.

I've blown up maybe, 8-10 vehicles with the AC/RDX combination. When I got the Lambert, I knew I'd never turn away from Recon.

But next, I'm working my way up to the H-AVR, instead of the Ganz. I don't really need support right now, LAMBERT IS MY SUPPORT!!

古強者死神
10-19-2006, 07:27 AM
My input on camo after using it almost all day: Its not nearly as good as I thought it would be as far as invisiblity goes but its just as cool as I thought it would be.

I dont charge right at a person or a vehicle I go around and I still get seen, I also see everybody that uses it pretty easy, sure your not a total opaque soldure model anymore but your this big blob of moving space and its pretty easy to spot.

Its random how it distorts the image of the background behind you somtimes your nearly invisible other times you contrast it really high and your easy to spot.

I figured with the noise it makes and its being pretty easy to see its best job is to use it to run to vehicles and put RDX on them it works some but I have a feeling I could have done just as well without it since it seems to only work when I come from the side/back anyways where they would not have seen me normally.

Dont think that RDXing walkers is as easy as it sounds, out of the 10 or so times I tried it only worked once, they can step on you easy, its hard to get it on there legs, and it takes alot of charges to kill them. You may get all the charges on there and they still gun you down before you can back off and blow them, so I dont really recomend going after walkers with RDX, its more of a tank/apc thing.


As for screenshots of it, I can take some for you when I get home but they wont do much justice as its a translucent object it may look nearly invisible in a still picture but in motion in the game you can see it pretty easy.

I think its the coolest thing in the game, but its just not quite all its been worked up to be. I laugh at the guys that think they can run into a titan coridor cloaked.... its like saying knife me I am helpless :P

In a big open map its prbably good to use for cover while your on a object that would show your silouette against the sky/background like a catwalk or somthing so you can use it while your on your way to your sniping spot, i think thats its main function. but you cant use it while climbing a ladder or anything. Also it will be much more usfull with light armor on and the spring upgrades so you can get further faster with it.

About the carbine since we are talking about that too, its pretty good I say on par with the stock assult guns, not as much damage over distance but shoots faster and has a bigger clip. I took out 3 guys with it before having to reload (snuck up on them from behind in the titan) not neary as good as the assult guns at "sniping" but thats what your sniper rifle is for.

I love this class fits me well

FattyBear
10-19-2006, 08:03 AM
Camo only works on the dumb and the deaf. People with no situational awareness or hearing will be vulnerable to cloakers, otherwise its extremely easy spotting them. And since they're too busy carrying around the dumb little plastic toy in their hands they are completely vulnerable.

Keyh
10-19-2006, 04:20 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/HiryuSwift/screen000.jpg

There's a picture of a guy not moving, whenever you do move those it's horribly easy to see. You look like a puff of smoke or a shadow moving around to infantry. It seems that it works well on vehicles though, it could just be coincidence...

Eagoyle
10-19-2006, 05:02 PM
Don't fall under the impression that you are invisible, or invulnerable. I have knifed many cloakers in the titan, and shot many that thought I couldn't see them. I would use it in heavy firefights, where the opposition is distracted by incoming Tanks, Walkers, etc.

Using the active camo to sneak up and knife somebody is not any more effective than sneaking up on them without it.

Eagoyle

liqudplummer
10-19-2006, 07:26 PM
Well, my first day experience was mixed. As has been said before, vehicles are almost completely oblvious to you with this, I've ran in front of and all around and they didn't react to me in any obvious way. Maybe it was luck.

But when it comes to infantry, if theres a moderate amount of activity going on (shooting, other allies around), say around a flag the enemy is capping or protecting, you can get in pretty close with this. You obviously can't get within knifing range because of the buzzing sound, probably barely pistol range really, but you definitely will be seen much earlier without the invis.

Once you get good at arming yourself quickly, say with the lambert, right at the end of a long invis'd sprint, you can really surprise a couple enemies and get quick kills. I like to think of it as most effective just to the sides of an enemies direct field of vision, not neccessarily out of their view. What it also does is helps keep other baddies around your target, maybe snipers or just guys in the right place to pick you off on your run, from doing so.

And theres always just nubs who make you feel like a ninja when you appear and knife them outta no where, lol. Any decent player will spot you no prob tho if you get within sidearm range (i think thats a fair estimate) and especially if you are directly in there field of vision.

JoeG
10-20-2006, 03:55 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/eden40000/screen001-1.jpg

Detail...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/eden40000/cloak.jpg

Richard012345
10-20-2006, 05:07 AM
5 bucks says they'll make it to where you can't use your weapons while in camo in a later patch due to "balance" issues.

That made my day, LOL!!
:laugh:

Talk about being "out of the loop."

kenof2142
10-20-2006, 09:08 AM
It looks pretty cool...sadly you can't use any weapons but oh well.

http://www.totalbf2142.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=182&stc=1&d=1161335263

StealthClobber
10-20-2006, 02:55 PM
I have some pics, I'll post them when I get home.

Flux
10-20-2006, 03:30 PM
Sadly... I'm pretty disappointed with the cloaking unlock. Takes 3 unlocks up one tree just to get it :(


Most of the time I can spot a cloaked guy from a mile away. Then I snipe them and wonder... what if that was me?

nimski
10-20-2006, 07:22 PM
I was tricked by the active camo last night. I was in a tank aiming at a walker when the #2 guy jumped out of the walker, he cloaked and started coming at me. I backed up a bit to keep him on the screen but was forced to keep one eye on the walker. This totally made me lose the guy, he ended up going prone and someone luckily saw him and took him out.

You really need to be in a place with a lot of contrast changes for it to be pulled off well. This is going to be really hard to gauge from the perspective of the active camo user. I think it's going to come down to "did it work?" or "it didn't work!" more often than not.

StealthClobber
10-20-2006, 08:40 PM
http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/6703/screen008as5.png

As you can see, up close it's pretty easy to tell someone is active camo'd, especially when you are support, with the NetBat A.C.I.D. (Active Camo ID)

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/3879/screen007ou5.png
A little farther away, but still close.

XFClohvn
10-21-2006, 06:34 PM
The problem with screenshots is that they don't show how easy it is to spot a cloaker when either you or the cloaker is moving. I find cloaked people to be almost more eye catching than uncloaked people.

RpTheHotrod
10-22-2006, 01:24 AM
If they are moving, I can see them instantly...but if they are still and prone....it's difficult to spot them.


Look! There's one now!

http://predator.absoluteavp.com/invisible.jpg

Mex
10-22-2006, 05:02 AM
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZcpxy3gHR8) is my short clip of it being used. Sorry for the bad quality though.

pYura
10-22-2006, 12:46 PM
Yesterday I sniped an "invisible" enemy solder while he was running across the road far away :D Seriously that thing is usless when you have the NetBat helm.

Stampy
10-22-2006, 12:53 PM
It would be pretty unbalanced to use a weapon with cloak active if you think about it. Get in a distant hiding spot from all the action and it would be close to impossible to spot you if your sniping.

Litany
10-22-2006, 08:29 PM
It's pretty useless unless you're plain still. You can spot it and hear it from miles away otherwise. I have given up on the camo, using RDX/APM/Lambert

gespo89
10-23-2006, 02:55 AM
I have moderate success with the cloak against vehicles but against infantry it seems worthless. I really wanted to like it but unless I'm spawning specifically to take out a walker or something along those lines with RDX, I can't really justify taking it over a set of APMs. I generally go lambert carbine with RDX and a set of APMs.

Off-topic a little: Does anyone know if that scope works with the lambert? That would be great but I somehow doubt it.

古強者死神
10-23-2006, 03:51 AM
the scope no, the stabalizer yes.

MIB
10-23-2006, 07:20 PM
Judging from the camo pics people are posting, I have to say that players must have damn good eyes to say cammodudes are easily spotted. If it were me, unless I was actively looking for them, I'd probably miss them entirely. Instead, I'd be focusing to much on the flag/silo/transport I'm trying to get to or the fully visible guys I'm trying to take out.

Scrylos
10-23-2006, 11:42 PM
What most people fail to realize is that the cloak is not invisibility. There are countless situations it works great in.

One comes to mind:

*This story contains tips for cloak use*

Being that I don't know any map names yet, I was on a snow covered map taking a flag next to a large wall with a hole in it.

As I arrive at the outpost I notice the flag moving very slowly towards the ground.

I turn camo on and head over to the flag. As I near the flag I see a black uniform(the enemy). I crouch and move a half circle so that I end up behind the soldier.(instead of walking straight towards him like I've seen many a person)

I release the cloak when I enter 5 yards(So he won't hear it) and pull out my pistol(I recommend knifing, but shooting him in the back of the head seemed much more satisfying)

I pull the trigger twice and he dies.

Out of habit I pull out my cloak and lay prone in the snow. Turns out the soldier had a buddy who heard my pistol shots. He was a support with that large machine gun and needless to say I wouldn't have survived a surprise attack from him. He rounds the corner in a sprint and runs right past me(I was in full view), looking around wildly.

As he turns away from me I let go of the mouse button and instantly press 3(You must let go of the mouse button before switching weapons or your vision will blur) pulling out my lambert.

I stand up and run within 3 feet of him (I advise against this because there could easily have been more soldiers behind me) and stand there waiting for him to turn around.

He turns, I fire. There are few things more satisfying than unloading 3 bursts of automatic fire into somebody at point blank range.

Fin(END)



The most entertaining thing I can think of(for myself) is either uncloaking to Lambert right in front of somebody(Imagine how surprised they are) or uncloaking to knife an inch from their face.

The cloak is far from underpowered as long as you think of it as what it is, a cloak. Being that the cloak is not invisibility, if you can get behind somebody or behind an obstacle, do it.

(Undecided)
10-24-2006, 01:20 AM
I will say first of all that I have only tried the assualt kit. With that out of the way I will say that I have little trouble spotting cloakers, the problem for me is actually aiming at them. I can see the movement easily, however once the cloaker is in my sights I can't pick out their exact position (and my H-AR isn't very good for spray and pray tactics). Regardless I do find the cloak balanced as it does have to be used intelligently.
With that said however there are two things that annoy me about the recon class:


The Lampert Carbine
The fact that there are so many Recon soldiers!


While this may be off topic for this thread, I would like to ask people to limit their recon use. I once led a six-man squad that had an assualt kit (me) and FIVE recon kits. This sort of combination does not lead to good things. I spent the round racking up points by constantly running around, reviving my squad, and despite my advanced medical hub, there was never enough bandages to go around. While I may have simply have had a less than average group of squadmates, we still didn't get much done. The only match I have lost as a commander was becuase THREE QUARTERS of the TEAM was recon. That was an absolute fluke, but it really opened my eyes.
Playing recon is fine and all, but would people please have a different kit as an alter ego?

Also, the Lampert Carbine, is anyone else annoyed by it? I find it strange that at under 30m I can be killed by a recon before I can get two shots off. I understand the tenaciousness required to tough through the special ops branch with only a pistol, but its a rediculous weapon! From what I have seen it has a large clip, high rate of fire, and bizzare accuracy. A standard assualt rifle should never be used at full auto beyond 10m (and even then it is iffy). Yet I am getting creamed by recons at full auto at well over twice the distance. Am I exagurating this? What distances do you find the Lampert useful at?

I apologize for the rant, but special ops really bug me, while snipers may have killed me before, I can retaliate via a volly of AR-Rockets set to air-burst. I just doesn't seem to be a counter for Special-ops at medium range beyond being the first to get a shot off. Anyway, I will see how the Voss L-AR compares when I unlock it in twenty points. ;)

pYura
10-24-2006, 10:39 AM
The como sometimes works sometimes not. Once I had an NPC run over (I mean I was between the wheels and survived:D) and it did not turn and shoot me, than a buggy just passes 2 inches close to me and again, they didnt notice me. But than a sniper spotted me and emtied his full clip on me and couldnt hit :laugh: and once I ran at a guy and as I passed him turned and knifed him instantly, he had no time shoot :D But sometimes they got me as I wasnt invisible at all :S I think Dice should remove the sound what this device produces and make it so the NetBat helm wont help you spot cloacked players.

Scrylos
10-24-2006, 07:12 PM
The como sometimes works sometimes not. Once I had an NPC run over (I mean I was between the wheels and survived:D) and it did not turn and shoot me, than a buggy just passes 2 inches close to me and again, they didnt notice me. But than a sniper spotted me and emtied his full clip on me and couldnt hit :laugh: and once I ran at a guy and as I passed him turned and knifed him instantly, he had no time shoot :D But sometimes they got me as I wasnt invisible at all :S I think Dice should remove the sound what this device produces and make it so the NetBat helm wont help you spot cloacked players.

If you stay out of sight they cannot get you on NetBat. I'm not really sure how NetBat works but it has yet to give me problems.

How does NetBat work?

[WHS]Viet-Cong
10-24-2006, 08:08 PM
The Support Netbat allows you to see cloaked soldiers by putting a red triangle on them. This information is then conveyed to your squad. Also, if you see someone, and then they cloak, I think you can still see the red triangle as if they were still there. Correct me if I’m wrong

drunken sailor
10-24-2006, 08:29 PM
the blur is the only problem the sound isnt bad. but once i was capturing a silo and saw two guys they didnt even notice me i went camo jumped on the first one knifed him went invisible again the guy looked at his freinds dead body and i knifed him to they didnt even know what hit them.

(Undecided)
10-24-2006, 09:52 PM
So yesterday on Sidi I was playing on 64 player conquest by The Offices, and after some hectic conflict, things quieted down. Then I notice a blurry shape charging across the road right at me. After staring in disbelief for a second, I just stood there, waiting, just waiting and staring at the ignorant fool. Lo and hehold he de-cloaks 2m in front of me at which point I put a quarter of my clip in his head. Then I stood on his corpse and unloaded the rest to prove a point.

Scrylos
10-26-2006, 02:17 AM
So yesterday on Sidi I was playing on 64 player conquest by The Offices, and after some hectic conflict, things quieted down. Then I notice a blurry shape charging across the road right at me. After staring in disbelief for a second, I just stood there, waiting, just waiting and staring at the ignorant fool. Lo and hehold he de-cloaks 2m in front of me at which point I put a quarter of my clip in his head. Then I stood on his corpse and unloaded the rest to prove a point.


Some people aren't very stealthy and seem to think cloaking makes you invisible. Standing, running, and walking while cloaked are no-nos, if you must move, crouch walk.

jasnth
10-26-2006, 06:14 AM
do you suppose that camo helps in getting 18 pistol kills IAR for expect pistol badge?

Flux
10-26-2006, 10:12 AM
Easier way to get your pistol badge is to hit someone with a zeller then pistol them to death. It takes just one or two bullets to hit for them to die.

Flux
10-26-2006, 10:19 AM
The big problem for me is the noise. It's loud, and detectable (maybe I have brilliant hearing? doubt it..). The instant I hear the buzzing sound I start looking around me trying to locate it via audio, and then the person in the camo is dead. Unless ofcourse he's my teammate.

dotswarlock
10-26-2006, 12:51 PM
The big problem for me is the noise. It's loud, and detectable (maybe I have brilliant hearing? doubt it..). The instant I hear the buzzing sound I start looking around me trying to locate it via audio, and then the person in the camo is dead. Unless ofcourse he's my teammate.

Lol, yeah I have a similiar problem. I have used the camo kit so often then whenever I hear it (and it's not me) I instantly go into full attack mode and spin around ready to fire only to notice that it's a teammate. Fortunetly I stop myself before pulling the trigger but oh so close to shooting them... ;)

Keitsu
10-27-2006, 03:11 AM
Question, does anyone fill like taking pictures of various contrasts of the Camo vs colors? Like Predominantly green areas, or red, or even on a water side? What about in the shadows, by a silo.... That sorta thing. Most likely, there are areas that Camo is going to be more suitable for. I'd test it, but I don't have a character that's branching off into the Recon Sector.

yehaaa7
11-06-2006, 11:03 AM
wtf! u have nvidia 600xt/gs and u put most settings on medium!!??

i have an fx 5200 gforce and i wish there was GIGAUltra low options!

jasnth
11-07-2006, 12:59 AM
Easier way to get your pistol badge is to hit someone with a zeller then pistol them to death. It takes just one or two bullets to hit for them to die.

must be pretty amzing to hit upclose without the crosshair
the pistol dont seem to work well at long ranges

gundamfan
11-07-2006, 08:01 AM
The good thing about camo is that it's more satisfying to kill someone who has it on. I was playing Titan once, and I ran through a side door to attack the enemy titan. This guy was behind me with camo on. I heard the loud humming, turned around, and sprayed him full of SMG bullets. Dead.

Later, I camped next to the doorway into my titan's console hall. Same round as the previous incident. That same guy runs down the hall, camo on. I run behind him and knife him. Dead. I love knifing cocky camoed soldiers.

DeZaStR
11-07-2006, 12:08 PM
What about EMP nades? For example, assume that you're trying to take a Titan console that's guarded. You can't make it into the hallway without falling to the ground ridden with bullets. What if one of your buddies lobs an EMP grenade down the hall, causing distortion in the helmets of the enemies? Wouldn't that, coupled with the cloaking, produce a good method of eliminating the threat?

Just a thought...haven't tried it yet.

SilverDragon
11-07-2006, 01:32 PM
[QUOTE=Stealth Clobber;81053]This only seems to happen to me for some reason, but when I switch fire, it always takes me a couple trys to get single shot, ON ANY GUN I TRY! But a while ago I had to switch fire 6 times to get to single shot. o_O
[QUOTE]

Press the 3 key instead of using the mouse wheel if that's what you're doing, it happens to me so I've just gotten used to pressing 3 instead of the mouse wheel.

I <3 the Lambert too but I prefer to carry the APMs and RDX instead of the camo, it's just not useful to me.

Sadly I have yet to unlock the Lambert permanently.

hirschce
11-07-2006, 04:52 PM
active camo is so funny, theres me at the other end of the titan console corridor (2 i think) guy runs in with his lambert out (shields had just gone down and i had prepared myself for a long stay :P ) i riddle him full of bullets whilst his hit my shield. (for explanation see dont use shield outside topic i posted there how to do it) next time he comes in with active camo. cus i am watching space he is gonna come in i notice him and again riddle him with bullets. he says omfg how did u get me when i was active camo'd? lol, he knewi was support yet he still asked?

in conclusion? active camo = not helpful on titan if ur attacking.
may help outside for flanking and RDXing vechiles, but i'd rather use space for APM's... (and yes i do have all the recon unlocks and this may disagree with a lot of notions here, but i didnt find lambert that helpful, i much prefer support.)

Goit
11-07-2006, 08:17 PM
The trouble with the active camo isn't that you are relatively easily detected (it's actually quite diffficult to judge how easy since you only know about the guys you HAVE spotted).

The problem is that if you are spotted, every soldier within a 300km radius will want to shoot you. Doesn't matter how tangential your death may be to their current activity, they will immediately cease all rational target prioritization to shoot the invisible guy.

I've been in squads assaulting flags with guys using it and it's like an extra life for the rest of us - doesn't matter that 5 other guys are bearing down on them with guns-o'-splattery-death, they will all target the only guy who can't shoot back.

G.

getdown
11-07-2006, 11:21 PM
http://homepage.mac.com/greendesert/iblog/C1620737936/E512425/Media/BoxOnHead_5250.jpg

lolololololololololol

Vikaman
11-08-2006, 02:21 PM
TBH, All my knife kills are due to camo.

Hold mouse button -> find someone -> get close -> press 1 -> click -> previous weapon-> click. done

that process takes me 2 seconds max.

Leemus
11-09-2006, 05:18 AM
TBH, All my knife kills are due to camo.

Hold mouse button -> find someone -> get close -> press 1 -> click -> previous weapon-> click. done

that process takes me 2 seconds max.

0.o Theres a previous weapon button!?!

Vikaman
11-09-2006, 09:07 AM
G7 mouse, lets you do anything..

kein
11-09-2006, 09:39 PM
G7 mouse, lets you do anything..

I know the setpoint software lets you bind key configs, but is there something else you would like to share with us? :D I've thought about binding one mouse button to multiple things for accessability in game but havent been able to pull it off yet. I just got the mouse a week ago.

Beerman
11-10-2006, 12:30 AM
5 bucks says they'll make it to where you can't use your weapons while in camo in a later patch due to "balance" issues.

You cant now anyways you have to switch

iostream
11-10-2006, 04:33 PM
I am one unlock away from getting this little gem...i have a question though...

Am I able to "shoot through" the camo..will any action cancel the AC?...like i'm prone on a hillside can I have the AC on and my rifle out and just shoot and have the AC deactivate or do I have to manualy deactivate it...also whats the duration and or cool-down.

Thanks in advance for the help,

IO

kein
11-10-2006, 04:40 PM
I am one unlock away from getting this little gem...i have a question though...

Am I able to "shoot through" the camo..will any action cancel the AC?...like i'm prone on a hillside can I have the AC on and my rifle out and just shoot and have the AC deactivate or do I have to manualy deactivate it...also whats the duration and or cool-down.

Thanks in advance for the help,

IO

Ok listen, active camo is not that great. You have to have the active camo controller in your hand at all times when you use it, you also have to hold down the fire trigger as long as you want to keep it active. You cannot hold any other weapon/device while you are using it.

You don't see many people use active camo for a reason, its just not that great. The best use of it I have found so far is running up to tanks/mechs to place explosives, as they have the hardest time to spot you with their camera effects. Most people can spot you right away unless you are further away and toward the outside of their vision. If you plan on using this much, just think of it like real camo and you will be ok. Lay down, crouch, stay directly out of line of sight, use cover as much as possible. Running straight toward someone while in camo is the best way to get spotted.

iostream
11-10-2006, 04:45 PM
Ok listen, active camo is not that great. You have to have the active camo controller in your hand at all times when you use it, you also have to hold down the fire trigger as long as you want to keep it active. You cannot hold any other weapon/device while you are using it.

You don't see many people use active camo for a reason, its just not that great. The best use of it I have found so far is running up to tanks/mechs to place explosives, as they have the hardest time to spot you with their camera effects. Most people can spot you right away unless you are further away and toward the outside of their vision. If you plan on using this much, just think of it like real camo and you will be ok. Lay down, crouch, stay directly out of line of sight, use cover as much as possible. Running straight toward someone while in camo is the best way to get spotted.

Roger,

I'll keep that in mind once I get my next unlock.

Thanks chief.

Maj2004
11-10-2006, 05:20 PM
Ok listen, active camo is not that great. You have to have the active camo controller in your hand at all times when you use it, you also have to hold down the fire trigger as long as you want to keep it active. You cannot hold any other weapon/device while you are using it.

You don't see many people use active camo for a reason, its just not that great. The best use of it I have found so far is running up to tanks/mechs to place explosives, as they have the hardest time to spot you with their camera effects. Most people can spot you right away unless you are further away and toward the outside of their vision. If you plan on using this much, just think of it like real camo and you will be ok. Lay down, crouch, stay directly out of line of sight, use cover as much as possible. Running straight toward someone while in camo is the best way to get spotted.

Active Camo is invaluable for me.

During Cerebral Landing, Active camo won me the round by stealthfully going behind enemy lines to their base, planting a squad beacon, and taking their flags from reverse.

kein
11-11-2006, 08:19 PM
Active Camo is invaluable for me.

During Cerebral Landing, Active camo won me the round by stealthfully going behind enemy lines to their base, planting a squad beacon, and taking their flags from reverse.

Aye, I've been spending a lot more time with it since I always have it as I havent unlocked the mines yet. Ive found that if you take light armor with the sprint upgrades, then use cloak, you can cover vast distances undetected. I always go take out the commander assets with it easily. It can be nice, though you can cover distances faster just using some other trasportation. I think it would probably be a lot more useful in conquest modes as there is less vehicles to use, I just dont play conquest much.

sinus123
11-11-2006, 10:26 PM
A friend and I did some screenis with camo. take a look:

http://193.175.199.18/screen000.jpg
http://193.175.199.18/screen003.jpg
http://193.175.199.18/screen004.jpg
http://193.175.199.18/screen007.jpg

LECHIP
11-11-2006, 11:31 PM
HMMMMM seems it depend a lot on what texture youre contrasting, and the point of view of the watcher, of course.

Raidyr
11-12-2006, 11:06 AM
Yeah, when you are behind a solid colored, smooth texture (such as a black wall) you are invisible.

2 unlocks to go :)

StealthClobber
11-14-2006, 01:06 AM
This only seems to happen to me for some reason, but when I switch fire, it always takes me a couple trys to get single shot, ON ANY GUN I TRY! But a while ago I had to switch fire 6 times to get to single shot. o_O


Press the 3 key instead of using the mouse wheel if that's what you're doing, it happens to me so I've just gotten used to pressing 3 instead of the mouse wheel.

THANK YOU! If the Reputation Mod was on this forum I would give you all my rep! :D

Arcalane
11-14-2006, 02:56 AM
The AC/OC (Optical Camo ;)) is invaluable, but I agree it requires some skill to use. It also requires your enemies to not be paying much attention - those with no music on will easily hear the distinctive bleeps and the *shink* as you draw your knife. :laugh:

I only usually notice an OC until it's too late. It's a pain when someone sneaks up behind your tank, slaps on RDX and takes you out as you only just notice the RDX beeps.

Svartberg
11-14-2006, 06:26 PM
To work right, the Active-Camo requires your enemies not to look at you.
:)

Storm
11-14-2006, 11:48 PM
Nope, you can criss-cross.

But the tactic I used in beta was

Camo up to tanks, pull out your C7, put 2 of them on, camo away, boom.

exactly what i did most of tonight

great fun!

Ascendant23
11-16-2006, 01:30 AM
The active camo is sweet- it’s my favorite unlock by far. Not necessarily the best in terms of the amount of points it gets me (that would be the defibrillator) but most certainly in terms of fun.

The main thing you have to know when you use it is that you’re not completely invisible. Running straight up into someone’s face is a sure way to get shot 99% of the time. Generally you want to do pretty wide arcs around people. When you’re 5 meters away, you’re pretty easy to see, but when you’re 25+ meters away you're much less likely to get noticed (depending on what textures are behind you of course)

Basically, the technique is to figure out how close you can be to people without them seeing you (this part requires some trial and error) and then just *never* get that close to the *front* of them while cloaked- just stay outside this radius until you can flank them and sneak up behind them.

A lot of people like to say, “Oh, those stupid people with their active camo, I see them every time!” It’s kind of a silly thing to say, when you think about it. When you don’t see me or notice me, and I kill you, you probably didn’t even realize that I crossed right in front of you while you were going on your leisurely stroll. I can attest to this because I usually don’t get seen when I don’t want to get seen (I still get spotted sometimes, but not as often as you think) and it all comes down to the way you use it.

Active camo is also great for squad leaders. If your squad is found, and you use active camo, who do you think the enemy is going to shoot at- the two guys they can see really easily, or the one guy who’s a fuzzy blur? 9 times out of 10, even though they’ll see you, they’ll shoot what they can hit- and you can run away to safety.

And of course, active camo is most excellent for getting your knife badges. It’s a hell of a lot easier to knife a squad of 4 players in rapid succession when you’re approaching them from behind than from in front.

Blowing up walkers with RDX w/ camo is great. The guy upthread was only able to do this 1 out of 10 times, but after some practice I can do this successfully about 9 times out of 10 if I know where the walker is before I make my approach.

Using recon with active camo + C4 isn’t necessarily the best kit/equipment to use in terms of kills per minute, but in terms of satisfaction per kill, it’s second to none! :)

AsaultMaster
04-07-2007, 04:49 PM
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A lot of people like to say, “Oh, those stupid people with their active camo, I see them every time!” It’s kind of a silly thing to say, when you think about it. When you don’t see me or notice me, and I kill you, you probably didn’t even realize that I crossed right in front of you while you were going on your leisurely stroll. I can attest to this because I usually don’t get seen when I don’t want to get seen (I still get spotted sometimes, but not as often as you think) and it all comes down to the way you use it.

Yeah! I wonder how many people actually notice the active camo, or if its just the n00bs they see. Hmmmmmmmmm.....