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KatieWolf
08-05-2008, 03:02 AM
KatieWolf's Suggestions Thread

Here's a few thread rules:

1.) Do not give out your suggestions, since this is my thread not yours. If you have your own suggestions, make your own thread.

2.) Do not tell say that something is impossible or hard coded when you have absolutely no knowledge in modding or animation.

3.) For those of you who does have knowledge, give me a reason why it would be a good idea or why is it hardcoded.

* You can enlarge some of the picture by clicking on it *


1.) Telescopic Sight for Rifleman

In Project Reality, there are two types of standard kit that you can choose for a rifleman, the one with a enchanced telescopic sight, or the one with a standard ironsight. While the ironsight is good to use during a Close Quarter Battle, the telescopic sight is very helpful to use against an enemy at far distances.

However, here's one of my suggestion on how the Rifleman with Optic could be improve.

- Example -

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5003/m4acogpngjf6.png

Optic: Trijicon ACOG 4x32 TA31F
Rifle: M4

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4828/smallacogm4pr350bs8.png (http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1882/biggermyacogyh8.png) http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/2783/prsmallpngme2.png

Differences: My Version and Project Reality

While both of them does have a 4x Magnification, the one in Project Reality appears in a fullscreen of a sniper scope, while mine is based on the Battlefield 2 M68 Combat sight.

I just thought that replacing my version with the one in the current Project Reality mod would make a rifleman to be more aware of their surrounding. Since after all, Rifleman are often fought on the frontline, so giving them the optic view of a sniper scope would gave them a huge disadvantage during the firefight.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4828/smallacogm4pr350bs8.png (http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1882/biggermyacogyh8.png) http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7503/smallm68pnghe1.png (http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/1016/big68pngxo7.png)
Differences: ACOG x4 vs M68 Combat Sight

In this pictures, you can see the differences between the ACOG and the M68. While the M68 has an advantage in CQB, the ACOG has a bigger advantage when it's come to range shooting.

More Later

waaah_wah
08-05-2008, 04:08 AM
AFAIK, Bf2 doesnt support multiple levels of zoom "at the same time" (kinda hard to explain) so the outside of the scope will be just as zoomed in as the inside wich is really weird and unrealistic.


And why the hell do you post it here and not on the PR suggestion forums?

KatieWolf
08-05-2008, 04:21 AM
I don't know, I just find this forum to be more flexible because most of the mods developer for BF2 usually come here.

Also if BF2 doesn't allow it, then how was I able to get it working without any glitches?

waaah_wah
08-05-2008, 02:23 PM
Good question...

Sir. Tasty
08-05-2008, 02:33 PM
Im not following 100% what you are trying to do/say, but in both the pics they are all at one level of zoom.

Wizrdwarts
08-05-2008, 07:41 PM
I think what Waah means is like in Insurgency (the HL mod, not the PR game mode) where the inside of the scope is zoomed, but the outside is normal.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/4531/official05zc4.jpg

Better IRL example:
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/269/sniperscopemm4bi4.jpg

Also, can a human eye actually see 4x while focused on the scope? Shouldn't the outside be at least a bit blurred?

waaah_wah
08-05-2008, 08:31 PM
^^Yeah that isnt possible with the Bf2 engine from what i understand. And the outside should be pretty blurred coz your eye isnt looking there.

KatieWolf
08-05-2008, 08:44 PM
Is this what you had in mind?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/voodoothenoob/1111-2.jpg

waaah_wah
08-05-2008, 09:29 PM
Yes..

Wizrdwarts
08-05-2008, 09:36 PM
So are the new suppression effects. Deal with it, you can't focus on 2 things at once.

And I updated my post with a better example of the 2 levels of zoom.

waaah_wah
08-05-2008, 09:54 PM
The supression effect is awesome.

And i still think that what KatieWolf is suggesting isnt possible.. From what i can see on the pics she posted the inside of the scope isnt magnifying any more than the outside...

Wizrdwarts
08-05-2008, 10:06 PM
Look harder Waah, compare the trees next to the building where she's aiming, 3rd and 4th pictures.

It looks great, just needs a bit of blur around the edges to simulate being focused in on the scope.

gazzthompson
08-05-2008, 10:16 PM
lets see a In game video of the sight before we go any further.

also if you have really done it, which i doubt but would LOVE to be proved wrong, it would of been better on the m16a4 with acog, that the spec ops m4

Webs961
08-05-2008, 10:21 PM
lets see a In game video of the sight before we go any further.

also if you have really done it, which i doubt but would LOVE to be proved wrong, it would of been better on the m16a4 with acog, that the spec ops m4

We can't; the discussion still rages as to whether the proposed scope is even feasable.

The suggestion itself is sound; no infantryman would put his eye directly on the scope of the weapon as to completely eliminate all other surrounding elements.

Wizrdwarts
08-05-2008, 10:21 PM
So is this an edited mockup screen or did you actually get it working in-game?

waaah_wah
08-05-2008, 10:39 PM
Look harder Waah, compare the trees next to the building where she's aiming, 3rd and 4th pictures.

3rd pic is with the 4x zoom while the 4th pic is with no zoom. On the 3rd pic the magnification appears to be the same over the whole screen. I need more pics to see if this is actually working or not. Or even better a vid.

Wizrdwarts
08-05-2008, 10:59 PM
I meant the last set. There is a difference, she's standing at the same place and the red dot/^ is aimed at the same area.

waaah_wah
08-06-2008, 02:15 AM
Im talking about the last set aswell. Magnification level appears to be same inside and outside of the scope.

Fuzz i see you watching this thread:p Care to clear this up?

KatieWolf
08-06-2008, 02:27 AM
Im talking about the last set aswell. Magnification level appears to be same inside and outside of the scope.

Fuzz i see you watching this thread:p Care to clear this up?

Wahhh, compare the gateway entrance with the third and the fourth picture.

waaah_wah
08-06-2008, 02:30 AM
Njaah... Still not sure.

More pics please?:p

Hm.. Actually, after i enlarged the pic i think you might have done the impossible. Can you make a quick vid please? I would like to see how this works in-game.

KatieWolf
08-06-2008, 05:22 AM
Here's one I did for Kashan desert.

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/4214/smallmediumpn0.png (http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7006/mediummh1.png) http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5728/smallmy6.png (http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/355/croppedmediumdotdz3.png)

BlackwaterEddie
08-06-2008, 11:27 AM
Photoshop is a girls best friend.

This isn't possible with the engine, and wasn't April 1st a while back?

Rhino
08-06-2008, 11:51 AM
Photoshop is a girls best friend.

This isn't possible with the engine, and wasn't April 1st a while back?

the thing is, he aint a girl, he just like pretending he's one for attention :p

This is not at all possible with the BF2 engine, you can only zoom in the entire screen or none of it, not a tiny little round circle in the middle. All of Mr Wolf's examples are just photoshop for thous of you who can't work it out.

Super-Timo
08-06-2008, 11:55 AM
its a fake.

how did you manage to get the rifle to be in exactly the same place each time? and also in the left image the iornsight has a chunk out of the right hand side side and the image inside just looks wrong

waaah_wah
08-06-2008, 12:37 PM
Lol busted:D

IAJTHOMAS
08-06-2008, 05:42 PM
I don't know, I just find this forum to be more flexible because most of the mods developer for BF2 usually come here.


That and you're banned....
http://www.realitymod.com/forum/members/katie.html

waaah_wah
08-06-2008, 06:29 PM
Busted and owned. Damn this gets better and better.:popcorn:

KatieWolf
08-06-2008, 08:11 PM
the thing is, he aint a girl, he just like pretending he's one for attention :p

This is not at all possible with the BF2 engine, you can only zoom in the entire screen or none of it, not a tiny little round circle in the middle. All of Mr Wolf's examples are just photoshop for thous of you who can't work it out.

The thing is, you don't know me, so I suggest that you shut the hell up with your assumption you shemale. Stop trying to flame other people just to get some attention :p

That and you're banned....
http://www.realitymod.com/forum/members/katie.html

Not really, I can still make a new account and go there. Btw, weren't you banned from the server if I recalled?

Busted and owned. Damn this gets better and better.:popcorn:

I did that on purpose just so people could prove to me that it was really impossible to code instead of just saying it. I'll still do more the other suggestions just so you won't be able to tell the differences.

its a fake.

how did you manage to get the rifle to be in exactly the same place each time? and also in the left image the iornsight has a chunk out of the right hand side side and the image inside just looks wrong

Saying that its the ironsight that's the cause is invalid. I could already make a new skin for it and replace the one from PR, and what's so wrong with the inside of the image?

Rhino
08-06-2008, 09:15 PM
The thing is, you don't know me, so I suggest that you shut the hell up with your assumption you shemale. Stop trying to flame other people just to get some attention :p

you already admitted it, and I have a picture of me on these forums that proves I'm a guy why I couldn't be asked to reply to your last comment here: http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com/main/showthread.php?p=2076157#post2076157

and why would I bother wanting attention? I have a 20,000 member community at my finger tips, get a average of 8 PMs a day and apart from this post here which you so call "me trying to get attention", lets see what you do now hummm, off the top of my head you:
go on servers and start up fights all the time with any one you feel like, when ever I see you in a server I always see you argue, and there are many complaints of you over on the PR forums and if you look at your post history you can find posts that are complaining about you acting out on servers which you have replied to as well.
post in every pic of the day that relates to PR "cool, what mod is that" even thou you know full well what mod it is.
Claiming to be a girl the entire time, I know many girl gamers that I go to LAN partys etc with and they also hate your guys for claiming to be a girl as they tell me without me even asking... + if you want them to put in there input as to why your a guy I bet they could do a far better job than me.

waaah_wah
08-06-2008, 09:50 PM
Katie is a girl trapped in a mans body..


Not really, I can still make a new account and go there.

I wont reccomend doing that...

Alex98uk
08-06-2008, 10:06 PM
Katie, why bother posting a screenshot in order for people to call you out. Pointless.

Again, another one of your threads locked.