What My $50 Paid For......

[hozer]

What Did your $50 buy you?

Well as far a me... It bought me these facts.....

1. Hassels With Install Problems.
2. Hassels With Install Patch Problems
3. Hassels With Connection Problems
4. Hassels With PunkBuster Problems
5. A game full of hassels

What else did it buy you guys

hmmmmm

[Sir. Chauncey]

I must admit, the game has let me down a bit. It seems as if they rushed the release out too early. At first I would CTD randomly, then i turned all graphics down, and voip off. Still didn't fix it, so I re-installed, then got some EC5950 or something error. Turns out there is a fix for the EC5454 thing, you just have to reinstall EA Downloader over itself. Then I applied the windows security fix and everything seems to working now. :\

[RaptoR]

Well the $50 bought me:

1. No problems with install
2. No problems with patching
3. No disconnects
4. No Crash to desktop
5. No punkbuster problems
6. 12 Straight hours of entertainment


not to be an arrogant ******* but, it looks to me like all those can be caused by user error if I didnt have any problems.

[Sir. bzb]

Someone always has to be the unlucky one, on the plus side since youve now had your turn at being the unlucky one your next game wont cause you any problems.

[bladescar]

What Did your $50 buy you?

Well as far a me... It bought me these facts.....

1. Hassels With Install Problems.
2. Hassels With Install Patch Problems
3. Hassels With Connection Problems
4. Hassels With PunkBuster Problems
5. A game full of hassels

What else did it buy you guys

hmmmmm

why do you feel this is the place to ***** about your own Personal Computer problems...

i bought the game ...installed my **** with NO problems at all. get ur **** together

[longgone]

wow I don't know what game you guys purchased but it sounds like alot of user errors....for me, no instal problems, no PB problems, no patch problems, no performance issues (other than the fact my system is a POS and in dire need of replacing)..... Why is it that when a couple of individual have problems its an issue with the developer, did you ever consider it is your issue, the rest of us aren't having problems at all?

[Gabe]

Well the $50 bought me:

1. No problems with install
2. No problems with patching
3. No disconnects
4. No Crash to desktop
5. No punkbuster problems
6. 12 Straight hours of entertainment


not to be an arrogant ******* but, it looks to me like all those can be caused by user error if I didnt have any problems.
Same here, no problems at all. Thing is with bf2 and bf2142, if you dont know about computers and dont know how to manage and take care of them your gonna have problems.

What Did your $50 buy you?

Well as far a me... It bought me these facts.....

1. Hassels With Install Problems.
2. Hassels With Install Patch Problems
3. Hassels With Connection Problems
4. Hassels With PunkBuster Problems
5. A game full of hassels

What else did it buy you guys

hmmmmm
Did you try upgrading your router and modem firmware, also make sure you have the latest drivers for your network card.

[mcstrange]

i had a couple kicks by punkbuster, went to their site got the latest version for 2142 and the problem went away.

i get a connection error message for a second at the end of every round but after i sorted the PB problem everything was smooth and fun!

[menace-uk-]

This guy has posted in the support section for help and i belive i was thr only person to offere some help it did not help but i tried;)

In stead of flaming him why not try and help him with his problems afterall we have issue's sometime we can not sort our selves no matter how much you know:rolleyes:

Stop flaming him and try and help him ;)

[hozer]

Well the $50 bought me:

1. No problems with install
2. No problems with patching
3. No disconnects
4. No Crash to desktop
5. No punkbuster problems
6. 12 Straight hours of entertainment


not to be an arrogant ******* but, it looks to me like all those can be caused by user error if I didnt have any problems.

Ya right D.A.

1. problems with the downloader ... FACT!!!!
2. problems with the update .......... FACT!!!!
3. problems with disconections ...... FACT!!!!
4. problems with punkbuster I Had to downlaod some lame a$$ punkbuster .htm files so we would not get kicked from PUNKBUSTER ................. FACT!!!!
5. it was nothing but hassels .......... FACT!!!!

[hozer]

Someone always has to be the unlucky one, on the plus side since youve now had your turn at being the unlucky one your next game wont cause you any problems.

Your Right! Ill never buy or recomend another EA product to anyone in the future.

[Orphious2006]

Ya right D.A.

1. problems with the downloader ... FACT!!!!
2. problems with the update .......... FACT!!!!
3. problems with disconections ...... FACT!!!!
4. problems with punkbuster I Had to downlaod some lame a$$ punkbuster .htm files so we would not get kicked from PUNKBUSTER ................. FACT!!!!
5. it was nothing but hassels .......... FACT!!!!



1. Did you call EA tech support? What exactly is the problem? Maybe if you posted what it was someone might be able to help you.

2. Same as #1 ^^^^^^^^

3. Disconnects...sounds to me like you solved #1 and #2...post what you did so someone else who has the same problem will be able to fix it. As for disconnect....are you talking about disconects from the EA Master Server where are you getting disconected? If you dont post more info no one will be able to help solve the problem.

4. PB....probably wont be the last time you will need to manually update PB...Actually it is a lot quicker to do it this way.

5. So are you able to play now? Or are you just saying that initially it was a hassle? If you got the game up and running...post what you did to fix it.

By posting something like this you are more likely to get flamed than to get any help from anyone.

[hozer]

1. Did you call EA tech support? What exactly is the problem? Maybe if you posted what it was someone might be able to help you.

2. Same as #1 ^^^^^^^^

3. Disconnects...sounds to me like you solved #1 and #2...post what you did so someone else who has the same problem will be able to fix it. As for disconnect....are you talking about disconects from the EA Master Server where are you getting disconected? If you dont post more info no one will be able to help solve the problem.

4. PB....probably wont be the last time you will need to manually update PB...Actually it is a lot quicker to do it this way.

5. So are you able to play now? Or are you just saying that initially it was a hassle? If you got the game up and running...post what you did to fix it.

By posting something like this you are more likely to get flamed than to get any help from anyone.

I dont have any problems getting flamed for stating the facts..

Look I know its a new game and there may be problems however, IMHO I feel EA has released the too early and has made it a real hassel for the end user. I have been a network engineer for the past 15 years and have played multiplayer games for 10 of them. Now looking at it as a end user it been a real hassel for hundreds of people to get the game working properly. Dont take my word for it check out the support forums on this and other forums releated sites It No B.S. there are serious problems with BF2142 and thats a fact.

IMHO Nobody should have to go thru through the hassles that people have to go thru just to play a game. Its just not right or far to the users that spend their hard earned cash for a product full of hassels. I really feel bad for the users that really dont have any real computer experience and bought the game.

[LaserCobra]

I must admit, the game has let me down a bit. It seems as if they rushed the release out too early. At first I would CTD randomly, then i turned all graphics down, and voip off. Still didn't fix it, so I re-installed, then got some EC5950 or something error. Turns out there is a fix for the EC5454 thing, you just have to reinstall EA Downloader over itself. Then I applied the windows security fix and everything seems to working now. :\

That's what everyone said about BF2.


When will we stop allowing our standards and expectations to be lowered by EA/DICE. They haven't fixed BF2, why are people buying this and expecting anything different? I don't think I'm playing Mr. Negative here. I'm trying to keep things in perspective... I think.

I should also state that there are acceptable levels of 'maintenance'- so to speak- when it comes to installing, setting up, and playing a new game. When you compare the BF franchise with other games or even look at its history, you see there's a chronic issue here.

[PaWg]

Well the $50 bought me:

1. No problems with install
2. No problems with patching
3. No disconnects
4. No Crash to desktop
5. No punkbuster problems
6. 12 Straight hours of entertainment


not to be an arrogant ******* but, it looks to me like all those can be caused by user error if I didnt have any problems.

I agree, and to mention our new server runs very smooth, no lags whatsoever...........

[urwathrtz]

Well the $50 bought me:

1. No problems with install
2. No problems with patching
3. No disconnects
4. No Crash to desktop
5. No punkbuster problems
6. 12 Straight hours of entertainment


not to be an arrogant ******* but, it looks to me like all those can be caused by user error if I didnt have any problems.
Me too, except I was on for 4 hours. Flawless so far.:D

[RaptoR]

Ya right D.A.

1. problems with the downloader ... FACT!!!!
2. problems with the update .......... FACT!!!!
3. problems with disconections ...... FACT!!!!
4. problems with punkbuster I Had to downlaod some lame a$$ punkbuster .htm files so we would not get kicked from PUNKBUSTER ................. FACT!!!!
5. it was nothing but hassels .......... FACT!!!!

the only facts i see there is that you are obviously having 5 user errors... cause i am not the only one that the game is working perfecly :rolleyes:

[lmimmfn]

Damn, you guys are harsh, help the guy instead of grilling him, no matter what game you get and whether its a setup problem or not, its always really annoying, the fact that any game works for most does NOT mean it doesnt cause problems in certain cases

[menace-uk-]

the only facts i see there is that you are obviously having 5 user errors... cause i am not the only one that the game is working perfecly :rolleyes:

But he is not the only person haveing those problems either:D

Dont be ignorant just because all is fine for you:D

[SuperTyphoon]

Don't complain so much that there are problems with the game. This is ELECTRONIC ARTS. What did you think it was gonna be like? A warm welcome, with no bugs, glitches, ingame ads, and extremely fun gameply?

Face the facts: If you don't like the game and whine about it, congrats. You have been successfully pwned by EA.

[The_Revrend]

Well as far a me... It bought me these facts.....

1. Painless Install.
2. Painless Patch Problems
3. Hassels With Connection Problems

Resolved: I Created new player accounts under my existing EA Account, which both got all my unlocks and weapon bonuses. Well, other than the Best Buy gun, which I havnt been able to figure out how to equip.

4. No PunkBuster Problems
5. 6 Hours so far of digital heroin jacked directly into my pleasure center.

What else did it buy you guys?

1. Couple of odd little things. ..

1.) [At least with the EA Downloader Version] You can only have one EA Account associated with the game and the ea account. My Friend wanted to play, tried to set up his own EA Account so he could save his player, and it wouldnt let him play 2142 With his acct. Can someone verify if this is the case with the boxed retail version? Sucks to not have the option be able to play on a friends computer or at a gaming cafe.

2.) As previously stated. The Veterans Program, I was pissed at first, constant Master Server Disconnects when trying to use the veteran name player accts, they are supposed to resolve this, I thouht I was goig to loose out on the free onlock etc. Turns out the solution is to create a new player profile, and in fact, any new Player name created with an account that was registered will get any of the unlocks. [Created 2 accounts last night, all of them got the SCAR-11 and the 1st Rank]

But overall, I'm seriously hooked. The teamwork aspect is awesome, and being able to give the big, F/U to that A$$hole in the jet by shooting his *** down, making him crash into a building becasue of an EMP Missile etc. . . makes me all tingly inside.

[RaptoR]

But he is not the only person haveing those problems either:D

Dont be ignorant just because all is fine for you:D

Obviously you are missing the point... if I have all my system updated and I got it right the first time doesn’t make me ignorant, the only reason I am giving him a hard time is because it is obviously not the games fault.

That is the difference between PC and console. developers for PC have to guess and hope that ALL the different hardware and ALL the different variants (drivers) of those hardware are COMPLETELLY compatible with the software (the game)... it obviously doesn’t happened that way and thats why we don’t have a 100% success rate in installing and playing those games.

Any little thing from not defragging your HD regularly to just completely screwing up the registry, will screw up your installation process and it is not the developers problems and they shouldn't be blamed for it.

[menace-uk-]

Obviously you are missing the point... if I have all my system updated and I got it right the first time doesn’t make me ignorant, the only reason I am giving him a hard time is because it is obviously not the games fault.

That is the difference between PC and console. developers for PC have to guess and hope that ALL the different hardware and ALL the different variants (drivers) of those hardware are COMPLETELLY compatible with the software (the game)... it obviously doesn’t happened that way and thats why we don’t have a 100% success rate in installing and playing those games.

Any little thing from not defragging your HD regularly to just completely screwing up the registry, will screw up your installation process and it is not the developers problems and they shouldn't be blamed for it.

Look im not saying it is the dev's fault all im saying is alot of people are having problems and most of you are just flaming why not try and help:confused:

And alot of problems are not all user related take the DVD patch to make the game playable online alot of people are having problems with that even when doing it the right way:D


All im saying is dont flame try and help if you can;)

[MoZ]

I've had a few connection problems, and the stats are like 48 hours behind (even though the game has been out for 24 hours 0.o) but other than that, everything works fine for me. I'm sure it can all be fixed, plus since the game is such a recent release I'm sure EA will be on top of things. Their games might not be the best, but their customer support has always been awesome in my experience. :)

[MavsRevenge]

I've heard from people back when BF Vietnam or BF2 was released that they wouldn't buy a EA product and guess what most still do cause they own half the industry and they make some good games like a little game called Crysis coming out in 3-4 months. Also games or systems aren't perfect, technology isn't perfect, hell look at my Xbox360 it freezes like crazy in Saints Row, but its still good. Some people just love to complain, anyways here's my rant for my first post

[thevelement]

What Did your $50 buy you?

Well as far a me... It bought me these facts.....

1. Hassels With Install Problems.
2. Hassels With Install Patch Problems
3. Hassels With Connection Problems
4. Hassels With PunkBuster Problems
5. A game full of hassels

What else did it buy you guys

hmmmmm

I've had nothing but good luck with this game. Here are some things that may be helpful to you:

1. Hassels With Install Problems.

What sort of "Install Problems"? Here's what I advocate doing before each install of a game you're going to be spending massive amounts of time playing:

1). Disk Cleanup: Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Disk Cleanup. Get rid of all Temp files, and compress old files

2). Defrag: Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> Disk Defragmenter. If you are installing the game on a different partition, defrag both the game partition, and the Windows partition (and if you have your Windows Swap File on a different drive than your Windows install, defrag that too).

3). Make sure all drivers (video, chipset, network, input devices) are up-to-date.

4). Make sure your OS is fully patched.

If you're still having problems with the install, tell us the problem and/or specific error messages you're getting.

2. Hassels With Install Patch Problems

Again, what problems, specifically, are you having? Remember, it's never a good idea to try and patch a running program, REGARDLESS what the program tells you, so make sure you exit out of BF2142 before you apply the patch.

3. Hassels With Connection Problems

This can be many, many things. Remember, your connection on the internet is only as fast as the slowest hop in the route to whatever you're connecting to. And it should go without saying, but never try to play an online game while you're downloading anything substantial on your network. Also, if you're running a firewall, try closing it and see if your connection problems go away. If they do, your firewall is not configured properly, and you'll have to open up the necessary ports (or set your firewall to allow the game to go through).

4. Hassels With PunkBuster Problems

Try and update PunkBuster manually, I hear that works wonders.

5. A game full of hassels

If you would be something other than completely vague, we may be able to help you here.

[Orphious2006]

Damn, you guys are harsh, help the guy instead of grilling him, no matter what game you get and whether its a setup problem or not, its always really annoying, the fact that any game works for most does NOT mean it doesnt cause problems in certain cases

Look, you cant help someone if you dont know exactly what the problem is. If he is a systems engineer like he claims to be he should know better and be descriptive as possible about what the problem is. Instead he makes very vague staements like "installation: hassle". Ok so it was a hassle, how so? From his statements I gathered he was able to install and patch otherwise he wouldnt have been able to get connection hassles. If he truely wanted or needed help he should have posted exactly what the problem is in the support forums, not come in here bitching and moaning about problems that he still has not responded to.

[DirrtiestSanchez]

Well the $50 bought me:

1. No problems with install
2. No problems with patching
3. No disconnects
4. No Crash to desktop
5. No punkbuster problems
6. 12 Straight hours of entertainment


Same here:)

[Deesies]

It's true, this has been a very messy release. My only problem has been the master server disconnects but every where I go I see many people having a great number of problems with this game.

[DarkHorse2160]

They pulled my copy right off the UPS truck while I was at Best Buy. I went home and installed the game and the patch with ZERO issues and it runs SMOOTH AS SILK at all Medium settings. I don't much care for the game myself, because the sniping and flying (my specialties in BF2) are really bad, but I can see what others like about it.

Here's the good part.... I didn't even know or care what I paid for the game until I saw this thread and pulled out my receipt. It turns out I ended up getting the game for $26.66!!!! For some reason (probably because I buy a lot of crap from Best Buy) I got a $13.33 Reward Zone Certificate applied toward the purchase AND a $10 "Package Gift Card VA" to be used later.

P.S. I paid for it with Reward Zone Certificates that I already had!

Anyone else get this kinda deal, or am I just THAT special???

[Lt.Kris]

im glad i decided not to buy it and instead by FSX.

[hozer]

Obviously you are missing the point... if I have all my system updated and I got it right the first time doesn’t make me ignorant, the only reason I am giving him a hard time is because it is obviously not the games fault.

That is the difference between PC and console. developers for PC have to guess and hope that ALL the different hardware and ALL the different variants (drivers) of those hardware are COMPLETELLY compatible with the software (the game)... it obviously doesn’t happened that way and thats why we don’t have a 100% success rate in installing and playing those games.

Any little thing from not defragging your HD regularly to just completely screwing up the registry, will screw up your installation process and it is not the developers problems and they shouldn't be blamed for it.

it is obviously not the games fault you say??? What planet are you on dude???

Ya its the users fault because the program did not come with the updates for punkbuster

Ya its the users fault master server went down

Ya ist the users fault the downloader did not work

What a D.A. ROFLMFAO!!!!!

[ColonelPanic]

So far, for me, NOT ONE PROBLEM. :FACT!!!!!!!
and probably most other people too. The ones without problems hardly ever say anything though.

You could have at least explained your problem, if you are having one anymore, instead of just posting flame bait.

[lmimmfn]

Look, you cant help someone if you dont know exactly what the problem is. If he is a systems engineer like he claims to be he should know better and be descriptive as possible about what the problem is. Instead he makes very vague staements like "installation: hassle". Ok so it was a hassle, how so? From his statements I gathered he was able to install and patch otherwise he wouldnt have been able to get connection hassles. If he truely wanted or needed help he should have posted exactly what the problem is in the support forums, not come in here bitching and moaning about problems that he still has not responded to.
true :), but it reminds me of my grief with the SF's installer, it insisting on installing an old patch, which while fine on my newly built machine on my old dell would end up in hours of frustration

[nitr021]

it all depends where you got the game from. if its from downloader there are issues and if it is from cd you are good

[DANK]

it all depends where you got the game from. if its from downloader there are issues and if it is from cd you are good

No not really there are barely any issues with EA Downloader. I am running it on Vista RC2 and it runs perfectly fine; dont worry it is a lot of user error and they dont even realize it.

Oh yah nitro nobody likes a smartass.

[RaptoR]

it is obviously not the games fault you say??? What planet are you on dude???

Ya its the users fault because the program did not come with the updates for punkbuster

Ya its the users fault master server went down

Ya ist the users fault the downloader did not work

What a D.A. ROFLMFAO!!!!!


Dude... I have been playing this game while you are stressing out in a forum...

I am enojoyin the game 100% so go figure out your problems and tough luck, people might help you if you werent such a jackass

[SP33D]

Hmm what shall I do with my fifty that i did not spend on 2142?

Fifty bucks for spyware is a joke.

[Hman]

$50 bought me a great game that has given me zero problems. Pre-ordered a hard copy from Amazon.com on the 7th, shipped the 17th, got it on the 18th along with the free flash drive.

*Knock on wood*

it is obviously not the games fault you say??? What planet are you on dude???

Ya its the users fault because the program did not come with the updates for punkbuster

Ya its the users fault master server went down

Ya ist the users fault the downloader did not work

What a D.A. ROFLMFAO!!!!!
1. Punkbuster isn't a part of the actual game, it can function without it, and not everyone had to update. Not exactly broken, not exactly perfect either.
2. Again, this has nothing to do with the actual game, but it's on EA's end.
3. Once again. Not part of the game. EA's distribution.

As far as your argument goes, the only things that are messed up are PB, EA's servers, and the Downloader. Not the fault of the actual game at all. I'm not saying these aren't problems, and I'm not saying that EA is handling all of this right, but they aren't valid to your argument. It also all comes back to what Raptor said, and if you weren't completely ignorant you'd understand that. No two computers are completely alike, as with any program some are going to have compatibility issues. Nothing (at least, anything you claim) is wrong with the game.

Venus, you?

[pahin12k]

why do you feel this is the place to ***** about your own Personal Computer problems...

i bought the game ...installed my **** with NO problems at all. get ur **** together

Everything he complained about are known and self admitted(by ea) issues, well maybe except for the game being boring.. So go sit in the corner and let the big boys talk.

[kelso]

I reinstalled windows before doing anything, before I even played the beta. I use ccleaner and defrag every two days. I always shut down all programs before a install. I say this because I think this is why I never had problem with BF2 or DC and 2142 is working fine (norm lag and disconnects). I hope you all with problem get it figured out the, game is good. I dont think I will be playing BF2 anymore

[SQUiB]

people might help you if you werent such a jackass
If that's the case you certainly wont be getting any help if you start having problems.

[RaptoR]

If that's the case you certainly wont be getting any help if you start having problems.

see I would put some importance into that comment, if i didnt have common sence and didnt kno how to install a game.... but since that is not that case and i am running the game just fine without problems... i think ill survive :rolleyes:

[Sepp_Dietrich]

people might help you if you werent such a jackass

Oh you mean @ssholes like yourself who sit here so smug and self righteous and say "Well I had no problems so it must be your incompetence that causes it not to work.."


If I wanted to hear from an @sshole, I would have farted.

[CDN-SMOKEJUMPER]

I bought my rig to play BF2 and had a lot of problems as I knew nothing so I posted in totalBF2 support and lot's of people taught me how to fix it.

I had to format so many times from screwing up and now it all runs sweet. :D

[RaptoR]

If I wanted to hear from an @sshole, I would have farted.

:D Nice.

See... here is where i think is getting out of proportion...

As you may read in my first post, the only thing I was desputing was the fact that he was accusing the game of being the problem... and later went on to say why i thought soo many people have problems with PC games.

I Didnt start being an @sshole until people took it to the heart, and decided, "hey he like EA games lets flame him for enjoying the game..." :hmm:

Hell, I cant count how many times i was getting disconnected in BF2... sheit... If i remember right I was getting disconnected around 3-5 times PER MAP!... but, I figure if all my clan members were ablle to play the game just fine, it couldnt be the games fault.

What happend? It was my ISP's Fault... their modem was faulty and the connection was glitchy and unstable... havent had a problem since...

Still needing help connecting? send me a PM and I will try helping you out... :)

[CDN-SMOKEJUMPER]

:D Nice.

See... here is where i think is getting out of proportion...

As you may read in my first post, the only thing I was desputing was the fact that he was accusing the game of being the problem... and later went on to say why i thought soo many people have problems with PC games.

I Didnt start being an @sshole until people took it to the heart, and decided, "hey he like EA games lets flame him for enjoying the game..." :hmm:

Hell, I cant count how many times i was getting disconnected in BF2... sheit... If i remember right I was getting disconnected around 3-5 times PER MAP!... but, I figure if all my clan members were ablle to play the game just fine, it couldnt be the games fault.

What happend? It was my ISP's Fault... their modem was faulty and the connection was glitchy and unstable... havent had a problem since...

Still needing help connecting? send me a PM and I will try helping you out... :)



Yep, it's dudes like you who gave me my rudimentary knowledge to make my game run top notch!

Thanks to guys like yourself.

For those of you who are uber 7337 in PC try to understand that some are really new at this stuff and think a PC is just plug in and play like a console and is confusing and inimidating.

I was freaking out the first time I had to format for example now it's stupid easy.

[chilli_peppers]

my $50 got me one of the best games i have ever played! No Problems here :D

[SQUiB]

:D Nice.

See... here is where i think is getting out of proportion...

As you may read in my first post, the only thing I was desputing was the fact that he was accusing the game of being the problem... and later went on to say why i thought soo many people have problems with PC games.

I Didnt start being an @sshole until people took it to the heart, and decided, "hey he like EA games lets flame him for enjoying the game..." :hmm:
Can't you understand that just because BF2142 runs perfectly on your computer it doesn't mean that there aren't problems with the game. To make it really simple lets just say 'Game X' runs great on AMD based computers but crashes regularly and runs slowly and Intel based computers.

You happen to own an AMD based computer and are thrilled with your new game that is running just great. 'Gamer 2' is trying the get 'Game X' to run on thier Intel based computer and having all sorts of problems. They make a frustrated post online about all the things that have gone wrong for them and get a response from you saying that 'The game is fine and all the problems are your fault because it runs great for me'. 'Gamer 2' has done nothing wrong and keeps a well maintained computer and might understandably get a little bit annoyed at your arrogant and illogical comment.

Any program can have problems for an almost unlimted number of reasons some of which are the end users fault some of which are completely to do with the program itself. Different people with differnet computers can expose flaws in a program that other people might not. For you to pass judgement on exactly whos fault these problems are you either have a lot more knowlede on the case than everyone else in the thread or you simply can't possibly know for sure.

[RaptoR]

Can't you understand that just because BF2142 runs perfectly on your computer it doesn't mean that there aren't problems with the game. To make it really simple lets just say 'Game X' runs great on AMD based computers but crashes regularly and runs slowly and Intel based computers.

You happen to own an AMD based computer and are thrilled with your new game that is running just great. 'Gamer 2' is trying the get 'Game X' to run on thier Intel based computer and having all sorts of problems. They make a frustrated post online about all the things that have gone wrong for them and get a response from you saying that 'The game is fine and all the problems are your fault because it runs great for me'. 'Gamer 2' has done nothing wrong and keeps a well maintained computer and might understandably get a little bit annoyed at your arrogant and illogical comment.

Any program can have problems for an almost unlimted number of reasons some of which are the end users fault some of which are completely to do with the program itself. Different people with differnet computers can expose flaws in a program that other people might not. For you to pass judgement on exactly whos fault these problems are you either have a lot more knowlede on the case than everyone else in the thread or you simply can't possibly know for sure.

Ok... This is what I posted on page 3.

Obviously you are missing the point... if I have all my system updated and I got it right the first time doesn’t make me ignorant, the only reason I am giving him a hard time is because it is obviously not the games fault.

That is the difference between PC and console. developers for PC have to guess and hope that ALL the different hardware and ALL the different variants (drivers) of those hardware are COMPLETELLY compatible with the software (the game)... it obviously doesn’t happened that way and thats why we don’t have a 100% success rate in installing and playing those games.

Any little thing from not defragging your HD regularly to just completely screwing up the registry, will screw up your installation process and it is not the developers problems and they shouldn't be blamed for it.

[siiix]

i'm glad i only paid $25 : ) 2142 has a lot more problems then any other game i previusly played

the account restrictions i hate, the maps suck, the stats update worst then bf2 ever did

but i guess for $25 it was not such a bad deal

[Flux]

Reasons for my $50

1. No jets
2. 4x Sniper scope

:)

[menace-uk-]

hmmmmmmmm i am very surprised this thread has not been locked yet:eek:

Any way i installed my game over 7 hours ago and it all went perfectly no problems what so ever:evil:

I have played over 20 games and have not had 1 disconnect or ea server problem(which i did in the demo) all i need now if for my ranks/unlocks to catch up:cool:

[siiix]

thats ineresting, altrough instalation was perfect

so far i had 10 rounds

only 1 so far updated ranks correctly
3x disconect
1x (just now) CDT (even in 1.3 bf2 i had not had CDT's)
cant add my player name to my EA name
in i round i get (no kidding) 6 field upgrades in 10 minutes, in most other even my real ones are missing

and i never laged in the demo / beta, but i lag the hell out of the full game on a server with 60ping

but most anoying is the stats + ranks + unlocks not working for me, and my player name error

[eXFeLoN]

So you a**holes don't think the game shipped with any problems? Why should I have to manually update punkbuster to get it to work? Why should I need to turn off my firewall for punkbuster to work? Why should I need to uninstall MS security updates for the game to work? Why should I need to reinstall EAD to get it to work? I guess all those disconnects from the master server are user error to sh*thead.

Oh and BTFW,

:D Nice.

See... here is where i think is getting out of proportion...

As you may read in my first post, the only thing I was desputing was the fact that he was accusing the game of being the problem... and later went on to say why i thought soo many people have problems with PC games.

I Didnt start being an @sshole until people took it to the heart, and decided, "hey he like EA games lets flame him for enjoying the game..." :hmm: ......

That was on page 5, if you don't remember, you started being an a**hole the moment you were born, and in your first post in this thread...

What Did your $50 buy you?

Well as far a me... It bought me these facts.....

1. Hassels With Install Problems.
2. Hassels With Install Patch Problems
3. Hassels With Connection Problems
4. Hassels With PunkBuster Problems
5. A game full of hassels

What else did it buy you guys

hmmmmm


Just because your game install went fine and you've had no problems, doesn't mean everyone who has had a problem is an idiot. Most of these errors have nothing to do with user error.

There really aren't that many options during the install, but I'm sure it still greatly taxed your mighty genius.

Take your smart*ss remarks back to your mom's basement.

And tell me again why I need to have 3612 ports open in my firewall for 1 game to work?

[RaptoR]

So you a**holes don't think the game shipped with any problems? Why should I have to manually update punkbuster to get it to work? Why should I need to turn off my firewall for punkbuster to work? Why should I need to uninstall MS security updates for the game to work? Why should I need to reinstall EAD to get it to work? I guess all those disconnects from the master server are user error to sh*thead.

Just because your game install went fine and you've had no problems, doesn't mean everyone who has had a problem is an idiot. Most of these errors have nothing to do with user error.

There really aren't that many options during the install, but I'm sure it still greatly taxed your mighty genius.

Take your smart*ss remarks back to your mom's basement.


oh... love these...

1. PunkBuster is not Part of EA

2. You dont "need" to uninstall MS update, go to their site, and you will learn that it is their fault, and there is a fix for.

3. EAD is ****, and always will be, thats why i buy a hardcopy.

4. EA master server errors arejust that, SERVER ERRORS! the game is being overloaded and you are just caught on the wrong end.

5. I dont remeber sayins ALL the problems are user errors, I made a post on the third page refering to those other aspects that will influence gameplay

6. Having common sence dosent make me a genius, but i will take that as a compliment.

7. And now the good old basement jokes. ill have to break this up to you.
-I am 18 and still going to school
-In south florida, there are no basement.
-You are 34 and b*tching in a public forum...

Is that good enough of a smart*ss remark?? hope i lived up to your expectations... :rolleyes:

[LethalBurst]

-In south florida, there are no basement.


LOL. True that.

[RaptoR]

LOL. True that.

:D Glad someone catched my humor... still waiting for eXFeLoN's uber pwnage responce....


PS: lethal... agree 100% with your quote in your sig. :rolleyes:

[BRUTALITEEEEEEEE]

we should start a poll to see how many patches there will be because of all the b****ing about this thing being too "L33t" and that other thing not being "L33t" enough and blah blah blibbity blah....

I completly understand the fristration but now what. If there is a ton of people that are able to play then there has to be some small issue with the install or ****, who knows. My situation was weird.

I installed, installed the patch, wouldn't run....uninstalled the windows secuity item, reinstalled the EAD and reinstalled the Windows secuirty item and it works fine.

[sknight]

-In south florida, there are no basement.


All your basement are belong to us

[Kohler]

1. Hassels With Install Problems. None for me
2. Hassels With Install Patch Problems Did you install while running the game? :rolleyes:
3. Hassels With Connection Problems None for me
4. Hassels With PunkBuster Problems nothing
5. A game full of hassels I can play just fine.

[UnrealAlex]

It's very strange that it works for some and not for others. I, for example, had 0 problems with installation and patching, no punkbuster kicks, and only one ctd after I've played for over 1500 points. I've had no problems, and no connection errors since the Demo(I turned off VOIP and EAX and they stopped, no lie)
I think partly some errors on behalf of the game and partly some errors are on behalf of the people.
The game runs fine and the only thing I can gripe about right now is ranks not updating.
And my computer isnt even top notch. 3GHz P4, 2GB ram, and an old 9800 pro.

[RaptoR]

yea... it would be interesting if they could do some survey... maybe to determine if it is hardware releated... or what...

[eXFeLoN]

oh... love these...
1. PunkBuster is not Part of EA

No Sh*t. Did I say it was? Kinda necessary to play on a ranked server though, isn't it? It should work prior to being sold. And it should update correctly, shouldn't it?


2. You dont "need" to uninstall MS update, go to their site, and you will learn that it is their fault, and there is a fix for.

No sh*t, seems like other posts in the forums state that uninstalling works as well or better than the hotfix, but thank for the great insight, don't you think that maybe, just maybe, it happened to EA or a tester prior to the game going live, and that they could've made mention of it? I've applied the hotfix, guess what, still getting the same crap.


3. EAD is ****, and always will be, thats why i buy a hardcopy.

I've had 0 problems with EAD, I guess your observations/problems are a result of user error.


4. EA master server errors arejust that, SERVER ERRORS! the game is being overloaded and you are just caught on the wrong end.

Must just be me, my apologies.


5. I dont remeber sayins ALL the problems are user errors, I made a post on the third page refering to those other aspects that will influence gameplay

You're 1st post definitely came off like that. Pissed me off enough not to read the rest of your posts.


6. Having common sence dosent make me a genius, but i will take that as a compliment.

Who said you have common sense? Take 'em where you think you see 'em though!


7. And now the good old basement jokes. ill have to break this up to you.
-I am 18 and still going to school
-In south florida, there are no basement.
-You are 34 and b*tching in a public forum...

And your point is? My insult wasn't a plea for information. I had no idea of your actual age, just that you weren't acting even 18. Guess what I'm 34 and still going to school. I have 2 bachelor's degrees, and working on my masters. "There are no basement", guess there be no english teachers either.


Is that good enough of a smart*ss remark?? hope i lived up to your expectations... :rolleyes:
Do we have a choice? It wasn't as good as normal, but hey, you're still young. Don't get so uptight. See where it leads us? Two complete strangers bitching and moaning about a f*cking video game. I'm glad you didn't have any problems. I'm pissed that I do. I only get short periods of time to play, and I gets me that I have to spend them fixing crap that shouldn't be happening.

Peace really, I was just venting. You were just the most vocal opponent.

BTW, as an unrelated side note, uninstalling the security update has fixed the CTD.

What were we talking about?

[RaptoR]

Peace really, I was just venting. You were just the most vocal opponent.

Will do, I enjoy pissing people off over the forum... i like to see their reaction and is simple humor for me... probably didnt help that you were frustrated at the game did it? :D

[ThirtyOughtSix]

Well the $50 bought me:

1. No problems with install
2. No problems with patching
3. No disconnects
4. No Crash to desktop
5. No punkbuster problems
6. 12 Straight hours of entertainment


not to be an arrogant ******* but, it looks to me like all those can be caused by user error if I didnt have any problems.

Ah, but you ARE an arrogant jacka$$. Just because YOU have not had any of these problems, doesn't mean the 1000's of other people who ARE are because of a user error. ARE YOU ON CRACK? Seriously?

GO away forum troll.

[xpguy]

Ah, but you ARE an arrogant jacka$$. Just because YOU have not had any of these problems, doesn't mean the 1000's of other people who ARE are because of a user error. ARE YOU ON CRACK? Seriously?

GO away forum troll.

I agree with you dude. Just beacuse someone was able to install the game with no problems doesn't mean the 1,000's of other people who did have problems. The forums should tell you that. Raptor you come off like your Sh!! dont stink. Just for your info............ its does D.A.

[TRD Supra]

Can why one conferm when walking in the titan is it still jerky and do you bob up and down?

[Kayback]

I dunnoe about you guys, but i'm getting increasinly worried about the number of games where you HAVE to download a patch just to get it to work.

I mean if I did my job 90% of the way, and then told the customers to come back later for the last little bit, I'd get fired.

When was BF2142 released? When did they release the patch?

I'll admit this isn't quite as bad as Lego Star Wars 2 The Origional Trilogy, that needed a patch to get the installer to work, it also isn't optimal.

But this does seem to be an increasing trend in games. Get it on the shelf, fix it later.

KBK

[TRD Supra]

I dunnoe about you guys, but i'm getting increasinly worried about the number of games where you HAVE to download a patch just to get it to work.

I mean if I did my job 90% of the way, and then told the customers to come back later for the last little bit, I'd get fired.

When was BF2142 released? When did they release the patch?

I'll admit this isn't quite as bad as Lego Star Wars 2 The Origional Trilogy, that needed a patch to get the installer to work, it also isn't optimal.

But this does seem to be an increasing trend in games. Get it on the shelf, fix it later.

KBKDont see how you got BF2142 released the patch later? The patch was out a day befor the game was released to fix problems they found.

[Kayback]

Yeah, but that's even worse. If they had fixes for bugs they knew were in the game, why didn't they hold off shpping another week and fix them?

While it might not have been "later" it was still a case of cut the disks then fix the issues.

Which as i said is a growing trend.

KBK

[TRD Supra]

If they delayed the release it wouldnt of been better. I dont see how releasing the game on time and patching it in a few min. then play, is better then, delay the release have all the games shipped back and then fix it and release it again. Taking probably 2 weeks.

[Kayback]

Oh, i dont know, maybe because i'm paying these people for a finished product?

If I bought a car, and they shipped me the distributor later, I'd complain.

If they knew in advance they were going to have problem, which they must have to have made the patch already, why burn the broken version to disks and ship it to stores?

Keep the game an extra week, make it work, then ship the finished, working, decent product.

KBK

[nadicus]

I preordered from GS, but they ran out of "dogtag" flash drives. So I didn't get that or the coupons either. Not that I'm that pissed but hey thats why I preordered it. I asked the guys at the store ONCE where they were and he looks at me like I'm f-in' crazy. OH well.

<ends random post>

[Eaglewatch1336]

I had no probs with this game. I had one disconnecting problem but after I got the latest drivers for my internet connection, smooth sailing.

[TRD Supra]

Oh, i dont know, maybe because i'm paying these people for a finished product?

If I bought a car, and they shipped me the distributor later, I'd complain.

If they knew in advance they were going to have problem, which they must have to have made the patch already, why burn the broken version to disks and ship it to stores?

Keep the game an extra week, make it work, then ship the finished, working, decent product.

KBK well its not a car, its a game and they shipped it then found the problems with game had and fixed them with a patch they released befor the game was put out to get, but was already at the store. So i dont see how this is unfinished, it was just a patch. better sooner then later.

[Kayback]

Thats brilliant thinking. "It's not a finished product like a car, so it can be broken when it's shipped".

The game did not work on many systems. They needed to hotfix it. They didn't find this out by having people complain after they'd purchased it (like LSW2) but they obvuously hadn't done the required ammount of testing before they committed themselves to shipping the product.

And you see this as not only acceptable behaviour, but a good thing?

All I was saying is it's happening more and more with games. The product you get in the box, that you pay a lot of money for, isn't actually a working game.

KBK

[kelso]

Netgear routers are causing some connection issues... I had one and needed to upgrade the firmware, fixed it. I bought a new linksys router and it works great.My connection motorarola SB-->linksys router---> 8 port switch---> computer

[FireSoul667]

Well the $50 bought me:

1. No problems with install
2. No problems with patching
3. No disconnects
4. No Crash to desktop
5. No punkbuster problems
6. 12 Straight hours of entertainment


not to be an arrogant ******* but, it looks to me like all those can be caused by user error if I didnt have any problems.

Same.

[Slice&Dice]

I have to admit I had some problems like punkbuster and the install was kinda of a hassell because the the patch had problems with the update and the unlocks not working. It was not what I was looking for in game game but after I got all the bugs fixed and the unlocks started working, I can say now I like the game. To bad it was a hassle to get it working correctly.

[kelso]

I preordered from GS, but they ran out of "dogtag" flash drives. So I didn't get that or the coupons either. Not that I'm that pissed but hey thats why I preordered it. I asked the guys at the store ONCE where they were and he looks at me like I'm f-in' crazy. OH well.

<ends random post>

Dont worry I got the flash drive... defective

[sarb]

just like bf2, i have no techincal problems at all with this game.

my only issues is my suck video card. :laugh:

[Got Your Back]

I can't tell you how MANY games I bought that had a patch out before or within a week of release! And many of the fixes in those patches didn't always pertains to MP aspect of the game!

Does anybody know HOW long it takes to Burn several 100,000 disks, take care of WHO is getting disks shipped to where/who/when/how many/etc?

These companies don't have 200,000+ employees that can thoroughly test these games. IT IS UP TO US! I think it was a great move to put out the BEtA testing which helped Extremely! Then came the Demo, which also proved to offer feedback to EA/DICE, through forums and such!

Games of this Magnitude will ALWAYS go through some beginning problems, especially on the Backend side of the Stats/servers side! Nobody can speculate or know for sure HOW servers & the Master Stats servers will react when they open the flood gates. (releasing the game to ALL the public)

At least EA got the patch out to all sites before the Public release date! I am sure you people would have Bit**ed about THAT for sure!

This isn't Pacman! This is a game that allows up to 64 HUMANS to play in armor/planes/running around/etc! I think that its pushing the technological border of PCs & servers. I realized that certain problems can be software related, but I think that the Majority is User side probs or ISP/modem/router related!

I have NEVER overclocked anything EVER & I have no problems with any game I own which does include BF2 & 2142. I always cleanup my comp weekly & ALWAYS do a defrag before I install any software! I use matching sticks of RAM (no different companies or types) My Mobo/processor is almost 3 yrs old (2.6g P4) Of course I have done a bit of upgrading to it though. (vid card/power supply/big HD/2gRAM)

I do feel bad for those who have major probs with this game or BF2! Just wish I could fix it for them!

[=VTA=MANFACE]

This isn't Pacman! This is a game that allows up to 64 HUMANS to play in armor/planes/running around/etc!

Only 48 for titan.

[Got Your Back]

Only 48 for titan.

Its still possible to play 64 on titan. EA just informed us that its advisable to use no more then 48! :p

[the_bruce_lee]

I had some connection issues, sound issues and PB issues but now it's fine.

[siiix]

-In south florida, there are no basement.

funny , but my house in tampa did had a basement, altrough it is rare, it was an 1920 house

[RaptoR]

funny , but my house in tampa did had a basement, altrough it is rare, it was an 1920 house

yea... thats why i played it safe and said south florida, cause i kno down here there aren't.

[Jim Steele]

An awesome game.

[cLuEdArT]

There are minor issues for me, but all in all, I love it. I really didn't think I would but I really do. Belgrade is such a great map among tons of good ones. I've had no local issues, only server side issues...which I don't pay for. I can easily go to a different server.

Kudos to DICE/EA for making me play more of my life away.

[siiix]

yea... thats why i played it safe and said south florida, cause i kno down here there aren't.

tampa is south florida

[Kayback]

I can't tell you how MANY games I bought that had a patch out before or within a week of release! And many of the fixes in those patches didn't always pertains to MP aspect of the game!

That was exactly my point. It's always happened in games, but it's happening more and more frequently with games now.

KBK

[LahLahSr]

Flawed logic:
I had no problems, so if anyone else has problems it must a user error.

Understanding technology is not for everyone...lol.

Cheers :-)

[AlphaNut]

Well as far a me... It bought me these facts.....

1. No Install Problems.
2. No Install Patch Problems
3. Resolved Connection Problems after I forwarded my router ports as advised in the game manual.
4. No PunkBuster Problems
5. A game full great moments, and loads of fun.

I have the downloader version.

[tantric132]

EA didn't make you buy it.

[lmimmfn]

EA didn't make you buy it.
STFU!!!!!, what a stupid comment, im guessing youre 10, FOR SOME THEY BOUGHT THE GAME AND REALISED PROBLEMS AND THE AD INFORMATION IN THE BOX

[tantric132]

STFU!!!!!, what a stupid comment, im guessing youre 10, FOR SOME THEY BOUGHT THE GAME AND REALISED PROBLEMS AND THE AD INFORMATION IN THE BOX

Firstly, my age is clearly provided in my info area to the left(<---) of all of my posts. Thank you.
Secondly, all I meant is that EA didn't hide anything. You played the demo. You knew there were ads, you knew how the game runs, so don't ****ing complain when they are in the full versian.

[lmimmfn]

Firstly, my age is clearly provided in my info area to the left(<---) of all of my posts. Thank you.
Secondly, all I meant is that EA didn't hide anything. You played the demo. You knew there were ads, you knew how the game runs, so don't ****ing complain when they are in the full versian.
Im not complaining about how the game runs, yes i knew there were ads, yes i played the demo, others didnt know because EA decided to hide this information in the box and a lot of kids will accept this because theyre not aware of the consequences, im not ****ing complaining about the full version, because unlike you im not a stupid naive tool who bought it, have respect for those who are misinformed you ignorant fool

And next time read my post will you, i hate having to repeat myself to fanboys

[Deicide]

Yeah, game companies get away with a lot, especially with PC games. I mean, usually companies fix their product BEFORE they sell it to the public. If they don't they usually get sued, etc.

If I get disconnect too much more I might just sue them for emotional distress. ;)

[lmimmfn]

Yeah, game companies get away with a lot, especially with PC games. I mean, usually companies fix their product BEFORE they sell it to the public. If they don't they usually get sued, etc.

If I get disconnect too much more I might just sue them for emotional distress. ;)
Good man, good to see you respect yourself unlike some of the fanboys around here who prefer to be rogered

[AlphaNut]

Are you guys serious? Are we talking about a game or am I missing the point?

[RaptoR]

tampa is south florida

Nopers, Tampa is concidered central.

South florida is the tri-county area: Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade county.

Even Naples that is on the west side of these counties is not considered south florida

[Methesda]

I have to agree with Raptor on this one.

I'm careful with my machine... i have to be, it's not a leet box by todays standards, and so if i want to get the best out of my games, I HAVE to be super caring about it.

As has been said, the fact that I run ok doesn't mean that the game doesn't have any problems. But by that rationale, it doesn't mean the game is one long list with the word 'hassle' appended to the end of each bullet point either. It's just like that for you. :laugh:

I know plenty of people that haven't had any problems what so ever. Just hang around the same bunch of servers for a few days and you'll see the same names again and again. These are people for which there are no problems, no disconnects, and for whom the game is serious addiction, and loads of fun.

Me own personal take on this, is that 2142 is far better than BF2. But thats just my opinion. My point is, posting like this to say omfgbunchacrapgame, is not really doing anything but whining. If you REALLY have a problem, then write to those that care... who those people are is a topic for another thread. ;)

'Gards,

Meth

[Stealth3]

3. No disconnects

Whoever said this is a lying scum. Because at one point everybody had a disconnection problem. And the servers being too full is no excuse.

The game is obviously rush. There is proof all over the place.

Here's some obvious ones:

-The mech's losing their animation and just sliding. If that doesn't prove the game was rushed, then wtf does?

-Titan lag. Again game design flaw.

-Getting stuck in obstacles with the mech, and tanks. I don't know about you guys, but if you've seen the vehicle physics in quake wars and compare it, you can tell right away which was unifinished.

-In BF2 you could run over street lights, but in bf2142 you can't run over anything. I doubt they took this out just to cut resources. Even cod uo has that. Its obviously cut to release it early.

[qREALp]

im glad i decided not to buy it and instead by FSX.

Ah, I do so miss the days of having a parent tell me I can only have one toy...

/not

[Digikid]

this is what $50cdn got me

disconnects like crazy
a game were 99% of the players are n00bs and give n00bs a bad name
bugs galore.

[Prof]

If you're a system/network engineer, fixing the game's issues should not have been troubling.

Minor flaws and glitches are inherent in all software programming. There will be unknown issues that don't come up until release and widespread use. I can tell you from being on the software support side of the table, no amount of testing will catch everything and if EA delayed the game's release I'm sure the same people whining about patches and occassional disconnects and the like would be complaining about a delayed release.

If you work in the computer/software industry, you should understand the thousands upon thousands of hardware, platform, driver, and internet combinations that are possible and realize maybe something in your setup is throwing an unseen wrench in the gears. If you're not in that industry, take it from one that is: something in your setup is throwing an unseen wrench in the gears. Figure out what it is with help from a techie friend or call somebody at EA.

I can see a couple teeangers whining because teenagers can be pretty stupid in general...brain doesn't kick on for half of you until you've legally drunk yourself stupid for a few years (Raptor is an apparent exception)...but for a middle aged man to come on here and get his panties twisted cause the game doesn't work right out of the box is unrealistic and ridiculous. Computers are not consoles...there is very little conformity and that presents software designers with an endless headache. Whiny consumers who don't get that are enough to drive a programmer into house construction just to get away from the ungrateful trolls.

I bet the same type of people complain about Bill Gates being the devil, too. If it wasn't for the uniformity that Windows brought to your PC, you'd have 32,000,000 more issues than you do now.

Get some education and you'll realize how big of a tool you're really being. And that "you" is referencing anyone and everyone who thought their $50 guaranteed them perfection right out the gate. As long as EA works to resolve the conflicts, they're alright with me.

[RaptoR]

If you're a system/network engineer, fixing the game's issues should not have been troubling.

Minor flaws and glitches are inherent in all software programming. There will be unknown issues that don't come up until release and widespread use. I can tell you from being on the software support side of the table, no amount of testing will catch everything and if EA delayed the game's release I'm sure the same people whining about patches and occassional disconnects and the like would be complaining about a delayed release.

If you work in the computer/software industry, you should understand the thousands upon thousands of hardware, platform, driver, and internet combinations that are possible and realize maybe something in your setup is throwing an unseen wrench in the gears. If you're not in that industry, take it from one that is: something in your setup is throwing an unseen wrench in the gears. Figure out what it is with help from a techie friend or call somebody at EA.

I can see a couple teeangers whining because teenagers can be pretty stupid in general...brain doesn't kick on for half of you until you've legally drunk yourself stupid for a few years (Raptor is an apparent exception)...but for a middle aged man to come on here and get his panties twisted cause the game doesn't work right out of the box is unrealistic and ridiculous. Computers are not consoles...there is very little conformity and that presents software designers with an endless headache. Whiny consumers who don't get that are enough to drive a programmer into house construction just to get away from the ungrateful trolls.

I bet the same type of people complain about Bill Gates being the devil, too. If it wasn't for the uniformity that Windows brought to your PC, you'd have 32,000,000 more issues than you do now.

Get some education and you'll realize how big of a tool you're really being. And that "you" is referencing anyone and everyone who thought their $50 guaranteed them perfection right out the gate. As long as EA works to resolve the conflicts, they're alright with me.

OMFG SOMEONE SMART IN THIS FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DUDE, PLEASE RUN FOR PRESIDENT.... ;)

[Stealth3]

Thats not the point. The point is you don't realease a game with major bugs, especially a rushed one. This game was done in under a fricking year. Don't tell me it wasn't rushed.

And don't tell me they didnt know about the mech sliding bug before releasing.

Every game has bugs, but bf2142 has way more than any other game. Its the buggiest MP game in existance, geez.
I can think of mods with less bugs.

[Prof]

I've noticed a few bugs, sure. I've noticed a few in every game. I've had huge difficulties doing multiplayer games in Age of Mythology, lots of disconnects and hacking in Counter Strike: Source. The ones in this game really didn't phaze me much...they didn't affect my gameplay in major ways and I'm fairly confident EA will get them resolved. I had a couple Punkbuster kicks but those went away on their own, I had a couple disconnects where a server overloaded and crashed, I've seen the mech slide and hang like you're talking about, plus the stats tracking. I understand there are bugs. But I doubt they knew about the stats tracking...that'd be a hard one to put together in a test environment...and the mech sliding might be a result of a set of circumstances they didn't encounter in the test lab due to a customer's personal variants like video card plus server lag plus low system memory or something like that. Server disconnects could easily be my Internet connection/router/modem, and as for the game being released in a year, this really IS a mod layered over BF2. It's got a shine polished on and some nifty new toys, but it's not a ground up game. A year should be enough to get this out the door without leaving intentionally ignored bugs in there.

Although, again from the software side of the business here, sometimes you have to make a decision whether the bug you've encountered in the code is a critical bug. If it's something you can work around or doesn't affect more than 10% of the customers, then it might be something you leave to be patched a couple weeks down the line. Honestly, the 10% of people who can't live with the minor glitches are less important than the other 90% who can and start to grumble about delays in the release.

But who am I kidding? This is the land of the customer is always right. You've all been coddled by a me first economy that caters to your every whim, so if something doesn't rub your rear just right, you'll complain to the whole world about how unfair it is you didn't get to keep your mech that one round cause it got glitched up.

[Blast2hell]

Every game has bugs, but bf2142 has way more than any other game. Its the buggiest MP game in existance, geez.
I can think of mods with less bugs.

that's a completely unfounded generalization. Every software gets released with bugs, and what you consider a major bug is a minor bug to someone else. So it's all perspective. I've heard this same whine and dance about every single game I've played.

[vs._9mm]

-In BF2 you could run over street lights, but in bf2142 you can't run over anything. I doubt they took this out just to cut resources. Even cod uo has that. Its obviously cut to release it early.

LOL...I distinctly remember some super strong barbed wire on Operation Harvest that could flip a tank :laugh:

[siiix]

Thats not the point. The point is you don't realease a game with major bugs, especially a rushed one. This game was done in under a fricking year. Don't tell me it wasn't rushed.

And don't tell me they didnt know about the mech sliding bug before releasing.

Every game has bugs, but bf2142 has way more than any other game. Its the buggiest MP game in existance, geez.
I can think of mods with less bugs.

why anyone here belives it was not russed ?
who would buy this game in 6 months ?
eigter they release it now or not at all

IMO to make money they did the right thing,
we might have bugs and problems BUT WE DID BUY IT ; )

as in 6 months it cound be 100% bug'less i would not buy it,
unless its like $15 even then its a maybe (unlikely)

[Limehouse]

What Did your $50 buy you?

Well as far a me... It bought me these facts.....

1. Hassels With Install Problems.
2. Hassels With Install Patch Problems
3. Hassels With Connection Problems
4. Hassels With PunkBuster Problems
5. A game full of hassels

What else did it buy you guys

hmmmmm

Don't wanna burst your bubble or anything, but it's hassle. And has nobody noticed that this thread is just a flame war now?

[lmimmfn]

If you're a system/network engineer, fixing the game's issues should not have been troubling.

Minor flaws and glitches are inherent in all software programming. There will be unknown issues that don't come up until release and widespread use. I can tell you from being on the software support side of the table, no amount of testing will catch everything and if EA delayed the game's release I'm sure the same people whining about patches and occassional disconnects and the like would be complaining about a delayed release.
A mature software process will catch 99% of things through unit, basic integration and regression test

If you work in the computer/software industry, you should understand the thousands upon thousands of hardware, platform, driver, and internet combinations that are possible and realize maybe something in your setup is throwing an unseen wrench in the gears.
Yep, im a software developer and yes dierent hardware setups cause problems, however this is supposed to be tested in integration test with different setups, everyone knows BF2 was never even tested with dual core, affinity anyone?

If you're not in that industry, take it from one that is: something in your setup is throwing an unseen wrench in the gears. Figure out what it is with help from a techie friend or call somebody at EA.

I can see a couple teeangers whining because teenagers can be pretty stupid in general...brain doesn't kick on for half of you until you've legally drunk yourself stupid for a few years (Raptor is an apparent exception)...but for a middle aged man to come on here and get his panties twisted cause the game doesn't work right out of the box is unrealistic and ridiculous. Computers are not consoles...there is very little conformity and that presents software designers with an endless headache. Whiny consumers who don't get that are enough to drive a programmer into house construction just to get away from the ungrateful trolls.
I disagree, problems highlighted by others by others which cause whining also indicate crappy software( except say BSOD's ), e.g. Special Forces insisting on installing an old DX9 version and patch 1.1 anyone?
Anything thats frustrating will cause a backlash no matter what

I bet the same type of people complain about Bill Gates being the devil, too. If it wasn't for the uniformity that Windows brought to your PC, you'd have 32,000,000 more issues than you do now.
Windoze does suck, its a copy o everything good thats been out already and at that its not done very well, at least they got some things right with XP, hows about dumping the crappy registry idea and just adding everything into their own directories like dlls etc and using a the system environment variables to resolve dll's/config files etc, ohh thats right that would be too good for windows, thank god theres linux and unix

Get some education and you'll realize how big of a tool you're really being. And that "you" is referencing anyone and everyone who thought their $50 guaranteed them perfection right out the gate. As long as EA works to resolve the conflicts, they're alright with me.
$50 deserves a product that does what it should, things like CTD's and disconnects should NEVER happen, at least 99% of the time, just look at the browser in BF2 its inexcusible, I cant speak about 2142 as i havnt bought it because of the ads, but i can speak form experience

But youre correct on most of your post :) and good post btw