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Easy_4TH
10-19-2006, 06:34 PM
i play mainly support, so obviously i went for the Ganz. it sounded nasty from the description, and with the way the reticle on the support guns gets SMALLER as you fire and the number of kills i was getting with the default support guns, i was super excited.

then, i finally got the Ganz. is it just me, or does it seem to be less accurate than the others? also, does it seem like theres too many "aiming devices" in your field of view while aiming down the ironsights?

at one point i actually spawned with the default gun instead of the ganz and i seemed to get more kills a lot easier. anyone else with the same experience?

Cloud9
10-19-2006, 06:51 PM
I loved the ganz in the beta..support was my 2nd favorite kit. try getting used to the ganz..it has its advantages.

Snooze
10-19-2006, 06:55 PM
The ganz give you more range than the LMG but has a longer heat lock if you overheat but will disapate heat better than the LMG unless you reach heatlock.

In a nutshell it's better unless you are someone that fires till they overheat. If you overheat you will be at a real disadvantage over the LMG for a few seconds.

Easy_4TH
10-19-2006, 06:59 PM
i just checked the stats this site has for the guns, and apparently the ganz is more accurate while crouching than while zoomed. i know, sounds crazy to me too. the deviations for the Shuko and the Bianchi are 2.0/1.2/0.8, (standing/couching/zoomed) while the ganz sports a confusing 2.0/1.2/1.3.

no wonder i get more kills with the bianchi/shuko. the ganz is a waste of an upgrade if you ask me.

Snooze
10-19-2006, 07:12 PM
The ganz has enough range to grind away at people standing at the next flag over. The rate of fire is also slower.

Ganz = ranged/power
Clark = close combat/run n gun
LMG = happy medium

Zero
10-19-2006, 07:17 PM
Yeah i don't think it was worth the upgrade, I was hoping that it would be more powerful and it's not.

Does anyone have a website that shows the weapon stats???

I've already unlocked but i'm getting close to unlocking other guns and i want to find out which guns have what advantages?

So for now i'm sticking to the stock Supports weapons, OH and plus the Ganz only has a 120 round clip. WTF

CarbonFire
10-19-2006, 07:30 PM
IMO the GANZ would have been worth it if it didn't overheat so easily. The standard Support weapons also give you a tighter reticle as you fire it, plus it can be fired for longer periods and only does 4 less damage.

I don't see the overwhelming advantage to unlocking it over using the standard ones. Now if it came with a smaller clip (like it does) but allowed you to fire for longer periods, you'd have a good suppression weapon that is balanced. Just doesn't seem worth it now.

Hathegkla
10-19-2006, 07:32 PM
I like it but I was expecting a little more. I kinda wish I had opted for the anti armor rifle or the assault rifle upgrade. but I guess that'll be next

CarbonFire
10-19-2006, 07:36 PM
I like it but I was expecting a little more. I kinda wish I had opted for the anti armor rifle or the assault rifle upgrade. but I guess that'll be next
Both are worthy upgrades. If you play engineer regularly, the Pilum gives you some good advantages in certain circumstances than the standard RL. From the sounds of it the AR upgrades also sound pretty useful, I'll probably start unlocking those next ^_^

Easy_4TH
10-19-2006, 10:48 PM
Does anyone have a website that shows the weapon stats???

I've already unlocked but i'm getting close to unlocking other guns and i want to find out which guns have what advantages?



this site has weapon stats. on the left column find "weapons" and it should be in there.

rlhitman
10-19-2006, 11:25 PM
I also made a post about the Ganz. It just doesn't make sense to me that DICE would make the unlock for a weapon that depends on its rate of fire to be more accurate, SLOWER. The Ganz fires alot slower than either the Shuko or the Bianchi and everyone says "oh well it does more damage orit has a better range". Well when I go prone at the same time as a guy with a Shuko and it outshoots me because of his higher rate of fire/better accuracy... than that doesn't make for a good unlock. They should have left the damage at the same, but increased the rate of fire on the Ganz and maybe a little better range. As it stands, it is at a severe disadvantage to a Bianchi or Shuko because of its lack of accuracy due to its slow rate of fire. GG Dice.

Iwantcable
10-20-2006, 12:09 AM
Dangit, I was excited about getting the Ganz when I finally got retail, but now I guess it's not like a PKM :cry: I'll probably go medic whoring...

Beerman
10-20-2006, 12:13 AM
It was a waste for me, I wanted it so bad now im thinking of making a new account. lol

rlhitman
10-20-2006, 02:18 AM
haha I did make a new character... its alot easier leveling up one tree in less than an hour starting over. Im just going through each weapon unlock to see which one I like the best. So far Ive been disappointed with all of them. The ganz is awful(slow rate of fire defeats the purpose of better accuracy the more you shoot), the Support Shotgun is slow and does crap damage... stick with the assault unlock shotgun. I got it as a squad unlock and its nice being able to quick switch to it to finish off a guy or two. So far Ive tried the Ganz, and the Support Shotgun and they both royally suck.