please commanders, Dont Move The Titan

[NKDeus]

it serves no purpose that I can see, and it causes a HUGE amount of Lag, it make the game almost unplayable.

[pYura]

Ever tried the guns on Titan? :p

[Alaz]

Couldn't agree more, in fact i'm not playing Titan mode again until people stop moving them or the physics are fixed, whats the point in moving a Titan if it gimps all your Support soldiers trying to defend your Titan because their unlocks slide/fall through the floor.

Alas its never going to happen though, so long as there are a couple of people out there with super computers that don't experience lag... meh, Conquest mode has better maps anyways.

[ledbythereaper]

Doesnt lag me, but why do retards move titans ontop of silos?

[colony]

NO. Titans should be moved at beginning of round. I've started playing alot of commander and this serves two purposes:

1) Gives your team a very mobile vehicle. Say you place titan in middle of map over a silo. Your team can continue to pod out of the titan onto the surrounding flags to capture/defend them much easier.

2) The guns under the titan provide a mobile artillery platform that can pound a silo continuously.

I only move it towards middle of map until shields are down, then I dont move it anymore.

[Alaz]

Doesnt lag me, but why do retards move titans ontop of silos?

7 words into your post you answered your question...

[ledbythereaper]

lmfao

@colony, you do know if it's ontop of a silo, no matter who owns the silo the missile fired from it will hit your titan

[Alaz]

NO. Titans should be moved at beginning of round. I've started playing alot of commander and this serves two purposes:

1) Gives your team a very mobile vehicle. Say you place titan in middle of map over a silo. Your team can continue to pod out of the titan onto the surrounding flags to capture/defend them much easier.

2) The guns under the titan provide a mobile artillery platform that can pound a silo continuously.

I only move it towards middle of map until shields are down, then I dont move it anymore.

If only people thought like this it would work, I still get a drop in FPS by at least 50% when the Titans are near each other, but its easy enough to play, but when people keep moving them all around for the sake of it, its just annoying lol.

[colony]

lmfao

@colony, you do know if it's ontop of a silo, no matter who owns the silo the missile fired from it will hit your titan

No, you dont go DIRECTLY over a silo, you stay between 2 or 3 silos in the middle of the map.

[NKDeus]

NO. Titans should be moved at beginning of round. I've started playing alot of commander and this serves two purposes:

1) Gives your team a very mobile vehicle. Say you place titan in middle of map over a silo. Your team can continue to pod out of the titan onto the surrounding flags to capture/defend them much easier.

2) The guns under the titan provide a mobile artillery platform that can pound a silo continuously.

I only move it towards middle of map until shields are down, then I dont move it anymore.


I knew there must be a reason too move the titans, Thanks Colony, now I know. Just seems a shame it lags sooo much.

[ledbythereaper]

No, you dont go DIRECTLY over a silo, you stay between 2 or 3 silos in the middle of the map.

You know, another good idea is to move your titan as FAR away from the enemy titan as possible...

[Alaz]

You know, another good idea is to move your titan as FAR away from the enemy titan as possible...

Doesn't really help though, those enemy apcs still find a way of reaching you :p.

[{ROTD}]

The whole idea of the guns on the titan was so they could replace the artillery strike in that mode, so if you don't move your titan then you are making absolutely no use of this... Also I got heaps of lag in bf2 and gave up playing on my connection, but I don't get much from bf2142 and being on a titan while its moving makes absolutely no differene to myself since there appears too be no lag at all.

[Ogs]

Also if your close enough, you can use the titan's drop pods to launch at there titan ;)

[Aedus]

But but but

I like moving the titan ;<


I thought it only lags when people are taking out the consoles or core and you move it

[ThirtyOughtSix]

Doesn't really help though, those enemy apcs still find a way of reaching you :p.

Untrue! There are spots on many maps where getting APCs in range is either very hard or impossible. On sidi power plant for instance, if you move your titan over the large body of water, all the way against the border... but towards the farther back of the water (north?) then they can't pod in from that one silo near there... and getting close enouph the other way requires driving over ridulous amount of mountains/hills and stiill you can 'just' get in range.

But of course that doesn't solve the problem of air transports. ;)

[ThirtyOughtSix]

But but but

I like moving the titan ;<


I thought it only lags when people are taking out the consoles or core and you move it

No it lags if any large amount of people (well more like say 10+?) are on the titan and it's moving. PLEASE do not move the titans after the shields go down... not many people will mind a little lag when spawning, but while defending or attacking a titan it's bound to drive peopel NUTS.

[ThirtyOughtSix]

The whole idea of the guns on the titan was so they could replace the artillery strike in that mode, so if you don't move your titan then you are making absolutely no use of this... Also I got heaps of lag in bf2 and gave up playing on my connection, but I don't get much from bf2142 and being on a titan while its moving makes absolutely no differene to myself since there appears too be no lag at all.

Then good for you. Most of us ARE experiencing lag. If you just deny us, then how'd you feel if we told you that, no, you COULDN'T have lagged on bf2... I know I almost NEVER did on that game. This game? Nope, not really, EXCEPT for when the titans get moved. That's about it.

[cc//Ollie90]

If I play commander on Titan I usually move it to a place where I can shoot at a couple of silos. Those guns are like mini artllery, they're great.

[Svartberg]

I'm really annoyed when some damn commander doesn't move the titan and the enemy titan is pounding us nonstop.

Titan moving to a key location (between 3 silos) give that team a huge advantage, you need to see this in action with people manning all the guns (and alternating repairs) and people constantly podding to the nearby silos.

[Aoshi_88]

No wonder i find myself sliding across the floor when i get fragged. It's the COMMANDER! :)

[Cowburn199]

I don't get lag when the titan moves, but commanders use it for tactical use (titan guns)

[siiix]

Doesnt lag me, but why do retards move titans ontop of silos?

Because in the beta & demo when you moved the titan over a silo it captured it self

But it seems not working any longer

I move the titan all the time as well (not only because the above, because after the 2nd time i realized that do not work any longer) but because as commander you can defend 2 silos with the guns, plus your troops can get faster to near by enemy silos

And i have no lag in the titan, or when i have it seems non relevant to the titan moving or not, plus in the demo or beta i never once had even the slightest lag

[Sixth]

NO. Titans should be moved at beginning of round. I've started playing alot of commander and this serves two purposes:

1) Gives your team a very mobile vehicle. Say you place titan in middle of map over a silo. Your team can continue to pod out of the titan onto the surrounding flags to capture/defend them much easier.

2) The guns under the titan provide a mobile artillery platform that can pound a silo continuously.

I only move it towards middle of map until shields are down, then I dont move it anymore.

Wish more commanders did this

[TheMshine]

No Lag?? Really??

Maybe we are not talking about the same thing? When you say no lag. are
you saying that when you are running around through the corridors INSIDE
the Titan, things don't seem to skip around a bit?

I turned down my settings as suggested in previous posts, and it helped a
little, but I still have trouble during firefights when there are like 10-15
soldiers running around down there.. I cannot say that it is because the Titan
is moving, because I am INSIDE and am paying attention to NOT getting shot!

So what I would like to ask are these couple questions. You people who say you experience NO lag inside the Titan....

1. Are you running ABOVE AVERAGE machines (eg. 3+Gig Processors, $400+
Video Cards, Liquid Cooling, 3 Gigs of RAM, etc.. etc...)?

2. Are you TWEAKERS, who has spent hours and hours Overclocking your
CPU's, GPU's, and systems?

I ask this because, I believe the majority of people are having issues, the
majority of people do not have time, or want to risk hosing up their machines
which they could barely afford overclocking it. We just have some free time
bought a decent machine, and want to have some fun playing a cool game!

I am by no means running a hot rod, but I think it should be sufficient to
run this game smoothly, with Medium to a little lower than Medium graphics
settings.

P4 3.2 Ghz
2 GIG RAM
ATI X800 XT (I think it's xt or something like that) PCIe Video Card
Broadband Cable Connection

This machine is only 1.5 years old so I know most of the hardware
is up to date, and sufficient.

I would be interested to know, those of you with No LAG, What kind
of machines are you running, and what your Video Settings are at
INCLUDING the resolution.

Regards,

[goldennova]

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :blabla: :blabla:

Its a titan. IT has guns on the bottom of it It starts off on the edge of the map- a place where your opponents won't be. You need to move it in order to actually make use of its guns. What a bunch of crybabies! I have no problems in the titan, and from what I saw, neither did many other people.

And to TheMshine, my computer is basiclly exactly like yours. It is a 2+ years old del which I bought already assembled- I did not upgrade anything since then. I get NO lag whatsoever, which is strange because in SOME servers, I still get the "disconnected form master server".

[Digikid]

it serves no purpose that I can see, and it causes a HUGE amount of Lag, it make the game almost unplayable.

umm...err...how about STFU and NO. If I am a commander and I see it fit to move the Titan then I will.

for **** sakes ppl stop your bitching about this. :rolleyes:

[MIB]

^Agreed. I mean what the hell? My PC specs aren't that great and I've yet to experience any lag in titan mode that wasn't caused by A: Serverside problems- typically caused by some moron playing with a ping of 700, or B: my own connection being messed with by my evil service provider. Now either my PC is blessed by the gods here, or a component or three needs replacing with the whiner's PCs. Titan mode is just fine the way it is, IMNSHO.

[Digikid]

Thank you!

[Zero0Soul]

Its a titan. IT has guns on the bottom of it It starts off on the edge of the map- a place where your opponents won't be. You need to move it in order to actually make use of its guns.


You are right, when the fight is on the ground Titans are a great weapon, but when the ppl are fightin IN the Titans what's the use moving them, or putting them cheeck to cheek? everione lags, those who defend and those who attack.

[akburst510]

NO. Titans should be moved at beginning of round. I've started playing alot of commander and this serves two purposes:

1) Gives your team a very mobile vehicle. Say you place titan in middle of map over a silo. Your team can continue to pod out of the titan onto the surrounding flags to capture/defend them much easier.

2) The guns under the titan provide a mobile artillery platform that can pound a silo continuously.

I only move it towards middle of map until shields are down, then I dont move it anymore.
truth, titans should be moved for maximum silo capturing.

[Digikid]

then just stop the titan by clicking close to where it already is.

problem solved.

[Variatas]

I think the problem stems from playing titan on 64 player servers. On smaller ones, I don't experience much lag while alive, only the sinking view glitch when dead. And I HAVE seen lag on titan before, so I do have a reference point.

And I totally agree with the commanders who move the titan. If you leave it where it starts off, and the enemy doesn't, they have a HUGE advantage. Most of the good games I've played end up with the Titans facing off at pod range, and it totally rocks. Not only can you constantly get on their titan, but you also can fly over under the cover of your own AA guns. I think if more people realized how much of an advantage can be gained by moving the titan tactically, more games would fall into that elusive category of 'good round'.

[siiix]

re TheMshine : no lag

well its true on both #1 and #2 for me
although my card in under average 6600gt256mb
but the cpu is crazy and i over clock and tweak the sh1t out of the system

still i have to say i don’t think i ever saw what you refer to in the corridors of the titan, i have graphic lag at very close explosions for a few seconds

and i have it all max on 1280x720 (get 35frames)
p-dual 3.1
2gig ram
agp 6600gt 256mb (512/945mhz)
DSL2 (16000/1100 thats 1.6mbs/136kbs)

and only 20 tasks running in windows, no virtual memory or virus/firewall or anything else that could slow down the system even a tiny bit

[colony]

I'm really annoyed when some damn commander doesn't move the titan and the enemy titan is pounding us nonstop.

Titan moving to a key location (between 3 silos) give that team a huge advantage, you need to see this in action with people manning all the guns (and alternating repairs) and people constantly podding to the nearby silos.

Exactly :)

[CrysisPwnz]

it serves no purpose that I can see, and it causes a HUGE amount of Lag, it make the game almost unplayable.

1. Get a new computer.
2. Get a better internet connection.
3. Try better servers.

I GET NO LAG and probably (if I wasn't commander and Titan attack/defend bonus' counted) get hundreds of points but I settled for the 60x2 just by sitting there and making sure none of their transports took off and guess what, we won without even losing a console.

No strategical advantage my ***. It's a game, its meant to be fun and playing pirates in the sky is fun. Not to mention artillerying all the lowly ground soldiers with the turrets to cover silo's obviously serves no strategical advantage either.

[Revoluti0n]

NO. Titans should be moved at beginning of round. I've started playing alot of commander and this serves two purposes:

1) Gives your team a very mobile vehicle. Say you place titan in middle of map over a silo. Your team can continue to pod out of the titan onto the surrounding flags to capture/defend them much easier.

2) The guns under the titan provide a mobile artillery platform that can pound a silo continuously.

I only move it towards middle of map until shields are down, then I dont move it anymore.

Agreed. There are also some places you can move the Titan and it makes it very difficult for people to POD up and destroy it. I've noticed this on the bottleneck area of Minsk (far right side of the map).
If the commander does not know what they are doing, then don't move it. If you have a good commander that knows what thy are doing then that Titan will constantly be in a safe/advantageous place.

[BFAST]

titan mode as awhole is rather laggy, how ever i havent noticed an increase in lag after the titan has been moved. the guns on the titan are F'ing amazing and a good commander should move the titan over a "hot spot" to give his team a statigic advantage.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

The only problem i found when moving titan is when attacking or defending it. You can't place explosives properly. You can't revive. etc

[ThirtyOughtSix]

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :blabla: :blabla:

Its a titan. IT has guns on the bottom of it It starts off on the edge of the map- a place where your opponents won't be. You need to move it in order to actually make use of its guns. What a bunch of crybabies! I have no problems in the titan, and from what I saw, neither did many other people.

And to TheMshine, my computer is basiclly exactly like yours. It is a 2+ years old del which I bought already assembled- I did not upgrade anything since then. I get NO lag whatsoever, which is strange because in SOME servers, I still get the "disconnected form master server".

I'm sorry if your not experience the LAG FROM HELL, but the rest of us ARE. I understand WHY you want to move the titan... but to move it is RUINING the game for the rest of us untill they fix this issue. So basically, YOUR A SELFISH JACKASS.

[ThirtyOughtSix]

Ok, look, MOVE the titan, fine... JUST STOP MOVING THE DAMN THING ONCE THE SHIELDS ARE DOWN. All that tactical crap is useless (no matter HOW much it might of made a difference before that point) if your defenders are LAGGING TO HELL.

Yea, so how do you really THINK the team is gonna win if they can't really defend the damn thing once the shields are down? Your stupid 'titan move' certain wasn't of tatical importance enouph to justify next to nothing for titan defense once our shields are down. GET A DAMN CLUE.

Just DON'T MOVE IT if the shields are down... and if it's still moving when they go down, STOP IT (click somewhere very close to it so it will go there and stop).

[MIB]

Look. I don't know what servers you're playing or what kind of computer you use, but from my chair, you are in the extreme minority here. There's something screwy going on with either your computer, your connection, or the servers you play on. If this was a game flaw, EVERYONE would be getting this problem- not just you and a handful of others. Yet we're the selfish assholes because we aren't all going to bend over backwards to cater specifically to you? Please, get real here. I'm sorry you're lagging so bad, but instead of whining and making fussy demands that EA should limit the gameplay for everyone, perhaps your time would be better invested in figuring out why your experience sucks so much.

[CrysisPwnz]

Look. I don't know what servers you're playing or what kind of computer you use, but from my chair, you are in the extreme minority here. There's something screwy going on with either your computer, your connection, or the servers you play on. If this was a game flaw, EVERYONE would be getting this problem- not just you and a handful of others. Yet we're the selfish assholes because we aren't all going to bend over backwards to cater specifically to you? Please, get real here. I'm sorry you're lagging so bad, but instead of whining and making fussy demands that EA should limit the gameplay for everyone, perhaps your time would be better invested in figuring out why your experience sucks so much.

Definately I get like minimal lag even on the 48 servers

[UnrealAlex]

Look. I don't know what servers you're playing or what kind of computer you use, but from my chair, you are in the extreme minority here. There's something screwy going on with either your computer, your connection, or the servers you play on. If this was a game flaw, EVERYONE would be getting this problem- not just you and a handful of others. Yet we're the selfish assholes because we aren't all going to bend over backwards to cater specifically to you? Please, get real here. I'm sorry you're lagging so bad, but instead of whining and making fussy demands that EA should limit the gameplay for everyone, perhaps your time would be better invested in figuring out why your experience sucks so much.
Lol minority? Try like half the forum. Even people with 7950GX2's are saying Titan moving creates stuttering. I had completly lower my settings to lows-mediums when I could play high-mediums on Conquest just because of moving titans.
If it was a minority, you wouldn't be seeing so many of these threads and 5 pages on this topic.
So yea :rolleyes:
What about things falling through the floor? You're telling me you dont have that? I've seen C7 fall through the floor, medic and supply crates, NOT TO MENTION KITS.
So maybe "from your chair" you should be a little more informed.]
And before some other person who thinks we are imagining this lag says its ping, Its not ping because I play on the lowest pings 40-50

[Got Your Back]

Everytime I have commanded on the Titan mode I would move it to a strategic postion near a few silos. You can pretty much reach a good position before your shields go down. (unless your team are complete imbuciles!)

If I see that the shields are fixing to go down before I reach my intended postion, I will stop it!

Then once they do go down I say F**K commander mode anymore... Its time to go downstairs & start reaping death & destruction against the attackers VIA my trusty Support weapon & unlocks. :evil: LOL

Nothing like having 2 support guys drop ammo boxes in the Core room!! Unlimited Nades for the Win Babbeeee!! LMAO

[CrysisPwnz]

My mediocre DELL with an X800 doesnt get any stuttering, 7950's = fail'd

[plimmy1971]

Everyone I know has lag on titan mode.
Just look at the amount of posts complaining about this.
Dice have also admitted to it at the time of the demo.

Its no good posting on some of these forums some people seem a little bit slow/backward here.

These forums here are full of people in denial and nothing you say will change that.

Try posting on the official EA forums the posts are a bit more constructive there.

[ThirtyOughtSix]

Look. I don't know what servers you're playing or what kind of computer you use, but from my chair, you are in the extreme minority here. There's something screwy going on with either your computer, your connection, or the servers you play on. If this was a game flaw, EVERYONE would be getting this problem- not just you and a handful of others. Yet we're the selfish assholes because we aren't all going to bend over backwards to cater specifically to you? Please, get real here. I'm sorry you're lagging so bad, but instead of whining and making fussy demands that EA should limit the gameplay for everyone, perhaps your time would be better invested in figuring out why your experience sucks so much.

Handful of people? you call 80% of the servers a handful of people? THIS IS NOT THE MINORITY. Your the minority in this situation. Be happy you don't have the problem. I've asked people in the server if they are lagging when it happens, and EVERYTIME there's most of the people yelling just like me, "YEA this lag is horrible". Want me to start a consensis? Get a clue dip****.

[ThirtyOughtSix]

Everytime I have commanded on the Titan mode I would move it to a strategic postion near a few silos. You can pretty much reach a good position before your shields go down. (unless your team are complete imbuciles!)

If I see that the shields are fixing to go down before I reach my intended postion, I will stop it!

Then once they do go down I say F**K commander mode anymore... Its time to go downstairs & start reaping death & destruction against the attackers VIA my trusty Support weapon & unlocks. :evil: LOL

Nothing like having 2 support guys drop ammo boxes in the Core room!! Unlimited Nades for the Win Babbeeee!! LMAO

Nice to know somebody is being reasonable and smart. ;)

[Got Your Back]

Nice to know somebody is being reasonable and smart. ;)


Well Thanks! I think it comes from AGE! lol

I am a true team player & always have been!

[Beerman]

Well Thanks! I think it comes from AGE!

Thats what your mom said, lol sorry first thing that came to mind when i read it lol.

[Got Your Back]

Thats what your mom said, lol sorry first thing that came to mind when i read it lol.


WOW ... that just blew my respect I had for you! Tisk tisk!

I guess its just a juvenile & uneducated thing to attack peoples mothers! You might feel differently after you lose a parent. Dont know!:rolleyes:

[ThirtyOughtSix]

Well Thanks! I think it comes from AGE! lol

I am a true team player & always have been!

Same here. Look me up sometime online. ;) We'll go kick some butt. hehe.

[cc//Ollie90]

Moving the titan is great, I moved it in between three silos earlier and people were queing up for the guns because you can easily pound the silos with them :p

[Jim Steele]

I think you meant "Do" move the Titan.. When I command, I use it as a tool for both spawning and assault. When the guns are destroyed, no sweat, just pull her back.

Remember, the pods are amazing at getting to missile silos.

[Got Your Back]

When the guns are destroyed, no sweat, just pull her back.




You do know that an Engi can repair the gun consoles right?

[FireSoul667]

I've seen a couple servers where they'll ban you for moving it.. so meh. You shouldn't be allowed to move it after the shields go down. Makes it more of a challenge

[Got Your Back]

Same here. Look me up sometime online. ;) We'll go kick some butt. hehe.

10-4 good buddy! In game name the same as here? Got_Your_Back

[MIB]

Handful of people? you call 80% of the servers a handful of people? THIS IS NOT THE MINORITY. Your the minority in this situation. Be happy you don't have the problem. I've asked people in the server if they are lagging when it happens, and EVERYTIME there's most of the people yelling just like me, "YEA this lag is horrible". Want me to start a consensis? Get a clue dip****.

Of all the servers I've played on, I'd say only one or two have ever caused me problems thus far. So yeah. It IS a minority. With the rest of the servers I've played on, with the rest of the people I've played with, I haven't encountered any problems. That's my perspective and no amount of decreeing that I'm a "dip****" is going to get me to change that just to make you happy.

[Arsonide]

Uh a point that needs to be made...everybody knows that parking the titan over a silo (friendly or enemy) is bad, but not too many people know that if your titan is in the PATH of a friendly missile, it's still going to hit you. These aren't very smart missiles. If you hover over a silo it will show you it's flight path, from the friendly silo to the enemy ship. Stay away from the lines!

[UnrealAlex]

Of all the servers I've played on, I'd say only one or two have ever caused me problems thus far.

So just cause you dont have a problem with it, it means other people dont either? :rolleyes:

[SweetCC]

When titans are moving, my FPS drops to 10-20. When they're not I have a pretty constant 40-60.

But I bet I'm just imagining that. The FPS counters built into the game and also the external one which is part of the ATI traytools overlay are obviously lying to me.

[MIB]

So just cause you dont have a problem with it, it means other people dont either? :rolleyes:

No, it means I don't believe the problem is as wide spread as you are making it out to be. I never claimed that the problem flat-out doesn't exist for some. (As a little reading comprehension on your part would show.) Aside from my own experience, I also haven't heard anyone server-side complain about any problems. All these issues regarding Titan-mode were frankly unknown to me untill I came here.

[UnrealAlex]

No, it means I don't believe the problem is as wide spread as you are making it out to be.
Well stick around and read more posts regarding this issue because they are adbundant ;)

[RDST]

So just cause you dont have a problem with it, it means other people dont either? :rolleyes:

Just cause you have problems doesn't mean others aren't. I've had no problems so far with entering the Titans and movement. My fps accualty goes up even when moving. Even though I do have a above average system.

P4 3.4 GHz
2 GB RAM
Nvidia 7900 GT KO

[Mr_canman87]

If the Titan moving causes your game to become so inexplicably painful to play then consider this: DON'T PLAY TITAN MODE.

"Oh, but it's more fun!"

Well, which is it, *******? Is it more fun than conquest mode or is it too laggy to play? If Titan mode were so horrible than you wouldn't be playing it. Or at least, I know I wouldn't. I would rather spend my time playing something that doesn't bog down (i.e. Conquest). Luckily for me, I don't have that problem, but I don't understand what all the bitching is about. Just wait for the issue to be resolved and then you can play it all you want without having to tell the rest of us to modify our experience to satisfy you.

Basically, don't play Titan mode IFF (that's "if and only if" for all you non-math folks) you get pissed off at lag resulting from moving the Titan(s).

[m7kf83sf92]

We held 3 silos. They held 2. We were playing Sidi. Our clever commander parked our Titan over the middle silo. Result. We lost by a mile. We could just ran around taking their silos and them taking ours on the wings. They just laughed at us and left the middle alone :(

[Windows2007]

Say you place titan in middle of map over a silo.

Brilliant, Holmes! :)

[UnrealAlex]

If the Titan moving causes your game to become so inexplicably painful to play then consider this: DON'T PLAY TITAN MODE.

"Oh, but it's more fun!"

Well, which is it, *******? Is it more fun than conquest mode or is it too laggy to play? If Titan mode were so horrible than you wouldn't be playing it. Or at least, I know I wouldn't. I would rather spend my time playing something that doesn't bog down (i.e. Conquest). Luckily for me, I don't have that problem, but I don't understand what all the bitching is about. Just wait for the issue to be resolved and then you can play it all you want without having to tell the rest of us to modify our experience to satisfy you.

Basically, don't play Titan mode IFF (that's "if and only if" for all you non-math folks) you get pissed off at lag resulting from moving the Titan(s).
OR they can fix the lag, and lots of people will be able to play what they paid for? Hows that for a novel idea?
Selfish pricks.
And RDST, I would love video proof of your fps going up when the titan moves :rolleyes:
Thats the biggest bull I've yet to hear on this forum. Even people who don't experience lag confirm that their fps goes down when the titan moves.

[RDST]

Making rash assumptions about everyones machine is a sign of ignorance. Also a sign of ignorance is assuming that just beccause you have the problem means that everyone else is. Yes, quite a few people have this lag problem, but not everyone. You have to relize that its not like only people from this forum play BF2142. Forums represent a small vocal minority and not all the players of the game. I don't have problems niether do many others.

-RDST

[UnrealAlex]

Making rash assumptions about everyones machine is a sign of ignorance. Also a sign of ignorance is assuming that just beccause you have the problem means that everyone else is. Yes, quite a few people have this lag problem, but not everyone. You have to relize that its not like only people from this forum play BF2142. Forums represent a small vocal minority and not all the players of the game. I don't have problems niether do many others.

-RDST

I'm not making assumptions. I joined this forum way before the demo came out and have been regularly checking up here. I can assure you I've seen LOTS of topics where people mentioned ridiculous lag in titan mode, inside titans. So I'm not speaking for just myself. Ask any other member who's been here for a while and they'll tell you the same thing: This isnt a tiny minority.
I don't know understand why you guys are so resistant towards the idea of titans stopping once the shields go down if it's going to help lots of people.

[RDST]

I'm not making assumptions. I joined this forum way before the demo came out and have been regularly checking up here. I can assure you I've seen LOTS of topics where people mentioned ridiculous lag in titan mode, inside titans. So I'm not speaking for just myself. Ask any other member who's been here for a while and they'll tell you the same thing: This isnt a tiny minority.
I don't know understand why you guys are so resistant towards the idea of titans stopping once the shields go down if it's going to help lots of people.

Yes and even though I have not been a member for long, I have been checking these forums form sometime too. I'm not discounting that this hasn't happened to many people, but it not as wide spread as some have lead it to belive. Considering that there are several hundred active members on these forums, and then count the number of people that are having these problems. Then consider that there are several thousand (Not sure on the exact number) people playing the game. Do the precentages the majority aren't have drastic problems.

-RDST

[kamikaze cow]

http://www.bf2lag.com/top5tips.html

This helped me out alot in bf2/2142. After dling one of there tweaked forceware (http://www.tweaksrus.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&Itemid=41&gid=127&orderby=dmdate_published&ascdesc=DESC) drivers for my 6600gt, i could play titan mode at least playable on a 6600gt on medium settings at 600x800, which may not seem like much, but was amazing compared to what it was...:D Also, just a thought (although i know dice/ea would never do this) why not make the inside of the titan rendered outside the map(sort of like a 3d skybox from the hl2 engine). So when you actually enter it, it takes you to a room outside the level, so your not in a moving object, but just a stationary room in some unreachable part of the map.(sort of hard to explain) I think that would fix the lag inside the titan...:) Also all the glitches would be solved, because nothing would be moving.

[LahLahSr]

I had ridiculous lag inside titans in the demo. I haven't had any in the retail version. Perhaps it is because of the 48 player limit.

These must be limitations of the BF2 engine (however modified) that is sued for BF2142 - or limitations of the makers of the game. Either way it is a step backward - things would be more interesting with 64 players. Right now it's more of a silo-race than an actual tactical fight. Not enough players to cap and hold all silos and man the Titan at the same time.

As for moving the titan, it doesn't matter what anyone say or thinks about it - if it is possible, people will move it. Sometimes it's a smart move - other times it's really dumb. It's the same as deliberate teamkilling (although that is just dumb most of the time) - since it is possible people just do it.

The average online gamer is not defined by stellar social and/or analytical intelligence intelligence and it's futile to have too high expectations.

When you are berhind the curve in a Titan game, it can be smart to move your titan to an inaccessible place or behind your homebase, so there is more defensive structures between your titan and the enemy.

But too often you see complete morons moving the titan over your own silos so that your missiles smack into your own titan. I'm actually not sure if it damages your own Titan, but it sure as heck is one missile that doesn't hit the enemy.

Cheers :-)

[The Cow Goes Moo]

it's called strategy! you move the titan and then bombard the ground people with the cool explody guns. Also when the enemy's titan shield is down you can launch yourself in the pods from your titan to theirs.

[siiix]

Actually i was thinking, is in not better for the commander to MOVE the titan exactly for the reason that the enemy will have a hard time blowing it up because most people have lag ??!!!!!!!!

From now on i move the hell out of the titan at the end of the round
to make the enemies life living hell : )

cant place explosives correctly to blow up my titan ? ohhh no to bad I moved the titan *grin*

don’t feel like attacking my titan because off lag ? stop, you making me depressed, not even the 2x bonus will make me feel better ; )

the title should be changed to "please hold still till i gut you out"

[El Cid]

I experience lag when the titan is moving, typically around 15-20fps vs. 30-40fps when stationary. Numerous players on the titan exacerbate the problem, causing me to go as low as 10 and making titan defense a miserable experience. My machine is:

Athlon 64 3800+ X2 (2GHz)
2GB RAM
GeForce 7800 GT

Although far from the top of the line, this machine was build only ten months ago. Considering that I have all my graphics settings on the lowest possible setting (except for draw distance, which is at 100%), I don't think that it's asking too much for the game to run well. I'm willing to entertain the notion that other people do not have problems with this; machines and configurations vary widely.

However, lag is not the only problem. When defending the titan I usually play Support, and naturally I like to deploy my assets and/or use my pulse meter. This is where the biggest problem lies. The assets drift across the floor and the turret in particular tends to rotate and have all sorts of strange problems. Occasionally they fall right through the floor. The red diamonds displayed by the pulse meter also drift as if they are stationary in world coordinates, making the pulse meter more difficult to use. Overall, this makes for an extremely frustrating experience.

These problems having nothing to do with my machine; they all occur serverside. In addition, they have nothing to do with the server's performance, for they are inherent to the programming of the game. Therefore, if a person has played Support on a moving titan and claims to have never witnessed these problems, I assert that he is lying.

Since Support is a vital part of an effective titan defense, the obvious course of action is: Do not move the titan once the shields are down.

That is all.

[El Cid]

Yes and even though I have not been a member for long, I have been checking these forums form sometime too. I'm not discounting that this hasn't happened to many people, but it not as wide spread as some have lead it to belive. Considering that there are several hundred active members on these forums, and then count the number of people that are having these problems. Then consider that there are several thousand (Not sure on the exact number) people playing the game. Do the precentages the majority aren't have drastic problems.

This is very poor reasoning. A thread on TotalBF2142 is no basis for statistical analysis. There is deep selection bias. The people who are likely to get really excited about an upcoming computer game, and therefore register on this forum, are much more likely to have high-end machines that don't experience problems. There may be a significant response bias as well.

[jpongin]

I think the lag is server-side related. So whatever killer machine you have, you'll still see bodies slide including yourself.

On that note, wouldn't be neat if a commander can lay down an orbital strike insde the Titan while it's moving and there's a 4 full squad offensive rush and defensive sentries in every corner? Use your imagination to see what kind of lag that would produce... it'll be like when superman flies against the earth's rotation to reverse time.... man who the hell wrote that script... hahah.

[Roothax]

I have to agree, with the people in the no lag camp. I think people are throwing around LAG pretty freely in this thread to discribe a lot of different issues. To me, lag is a latency issue. The problem with glitchy combat and movement on moving titans seems to be the way the game is coded and has nothing to do actual latency. For me, when I'm fighting on a moving titan, people and bodies are sliding around, nades take wierd flight, but everything is still in realtime and no lag, just glitchy.

[ThirtyOughtSix]

I think you meant "Do" move the Titan.. When I command, I use it as a tool for both spawning and assault. When the guns are destroyed, no sweat, just pull her back.

Remember, the pods are amazing at getting to missile silos.

Yes, but STOP MOVING It once the shields go down... WHY? because it lags to hell everyone inside the titan, and because defenders usually try to setup a 'entrenched' position it gives the moving attackers a big advantage because they warp all over the damn place, etc. IF YOUR not having this problem, great for you, but there's a LOT of us who are. So please, just stop moving the damn thing when the shields go down if you want us to defend it and stand a chance. It's NOT worth moving anymore at that point.... TRUST ME.

[ThirtyOughtSix]

If the Titan moving causes your game to become so inexplicably painful to play then consider this: DON'T PLAY TITAN MODE.

"Oh, but it's more fun!"

Well, which is it, *******? Is it more fun than conquest mode or is it too laggy to play? If Titan mode were so horrible than you wouldn't be playing it. Or at least, I know I wouldn't. I would rather spend my time playing something that doesn't bog down (i.e. Conquest). Luckily for me, I don't have that problem, but I don't understand what all the bitching is about. Just wait for the issue to be resolved and then you can play it all you want without having to tell the rest of us to modify our experience to satisfy you.

Basically, don't play Titan mode IFF (that's "if and only if" for all you non-math folks) you get pissed off at lag resulting from moving the Titan(s).


Acutally, I DON'T play titan mode because of this very issue. But I'd LIKE to play it... I like it MORE then conquest... but it's just unplayable sometimes it gets so bad. VERY frusterating.

[UnrealAlex]

Do you experience any lag or drop in FPS when Titans move?
Yes, there is noticeable lag/drop in fps 17 53.13%
Yes, but it is bearable 10 31.25%
No, no lag or fps drop at all. 5 15.63%

Poll results so far.. if anyone was a minority, it would be the people who don't experience any lag or stuttering during titan movement.


http://www.totalbf2142.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6307

[Svartberg]

Ye the glitchy titan movement sometimes happens here and sometimes not - maybe they appear less on 32 player server, not sure ...

And i agree they take away a lot from the fun, especially when you can't revive teammates, and grenades/rocket sway (maybe in the future newton physics don't work anymore :p)

I reckon the only tangable fix for it would be to stop the titans after their shield is down (and the move command greyed out), i can't think of any other way Dice could fix it without rewriting the code, but then again i don't work at Dice ;)

[古強者死神]

The titan needs to move for stratagy reasons, my sniping game depends on titan pods to get from A to B quick and to high areas and the guns are nice too even tho I dint use them hardly ever. I agree once the shield is down tho the titan needs to be stoped as fighting inside a moving titan is a nightmare.