no CITY MAPS ??? and all maps near identical.. anyone else noticed ?

[siiix]

i had my hopes up that the beta and demo maps would be just the bottom, and the rest of the maps will be better

but not only the game has no better maps but they all near identical ?! in fact vernun is one of the best and even sidi is by far not the worst under the 10 maps (witch I naively assumed 1st)

in bf2 i was disappointed about the maps, but now i'm just shocked

don’t get me wrong its NOT the looks what i have a problem with - they look ok

but they all exactly the same, the way you play (strategy)

AND not even ONE city map... i mean EA know very well that city maps where the most popular in bf2 and sf and they don’t even put ONE in 2142 ?!!!

there are barely any building you can go in to, or clime, or hide, and the few that you can are the same on every map (and are extremely simple)

I love the game, BUT damn EA. I hope the community will create custom maps so we can enjoy 2142 to its full potential
:confused:
actually I suspect why they all identical, it would been to “much” work for EA to make different maps for conquest and titan, and a city map is not really usable for titan mode (or at least would require LOT of creativity)… still laziness is not an excuse in my eyes by a $50 game that will probably sell over ½ million copies

[Deesies]

I was actually thinking of creating a map when the tools are out.

I doubt they'll be ranked though :P

ps. I quite enjoy the maps of 2142 and find they're sufficiently varied :)

[=VTA=MANFACE]

Not one Modded map , no matter how perfect it is, will EVER be ranked.

Just look at the maps for BF2.

[Cowburn199]

I like the maps for 2142, they're a good change and see some good action

[siiix]

But there are "suggestions" (rumors) of EA that mods and custom maps will eventually have they own separate ranking but (unlike my signature) supported by the game directly

The only problem with alternative ranked will be that only a few 1000 players join and if most of the community would switch those private servers would not be able to handle the load or the moder the charge for the traffic

[entertainer]

You have got to be kidding me right? These maps are so much better than the BF2 maps. And wtf? No city maps? What do you call Cerbere, Berlin, Belgrade? "Berlin" and "Belgrade" happen to be RL cities so I don't know where you're getting this from.

[Transman]

I cant even read siiiiiixs posts because of that avatar, makes me want to barf or something. Anyways i really enjoy the maps, well except for sidi, i have grown to hate it (could it be because i played it a million times in beta? i think so).

[Cowburn199]

Sidi was not in the beta, Verdun was....

[Transman]

Sidi was not in the beta, Verdun was....

My bad i ment the demo.

[Domicinator]

I like pretty much all the maps. Gamespot and IGN, though both giving the game good reviews (8.1 and 8.4 respectively), have complained about dreary maps, but I actually kind of like the atmosphere. I like the idea of fighting in cold and snowy weather, and the snow really adds a lot of effect. They had to make the maps look a little bleak just to go along with the premise of what the fighting is all about.

[gwolb]

I think the mix of the maps is spot on, nice mix of city maps, and more open maps, good mix.

[Sethonan]

i had my hopes up that the beta and demo maps would be just the bottom, and the rest of the maps will be better

but not only the game has no better maps but they all near identical ?! in fact vernun is one of the best and even sidi is by far not the worst under the 10 maps (witch I naively assumed 1st)

in bf2 i was disappointed about the maps, but now i'm just shocked

don’t get me wrong its NOT the looks what i have a problem with - they look ok

but they all exactly the same, the way you play (strategy)

AND not even ONE city map... i mean EA know very well that city maps where the most popular in bf2 and sf and they don’t even put ONE in 2142 ?!!!

there are barely any building you can go in to, or clime, or hide, and the few that you can are the same on every map (and are extremely simple)

I love the game, BUT damn EA. I hope the community will create custom maps so we can enjoy 2142 to its full potential
:confused:
actually I suspect why they all identical, it would been to “much” work for EA to make different maps for conquest and titan, and a city map is not really usable for titan mode (or at least would require LOT of creativity)… still laziness is not an excuse in my eyes by a $50 game that will probably sell over ½ million copies

Same strategy as in what? IN each map everybody fires their guns at the enemy? Berlin is a maze of streets and most of the fighting is close quarters, vehicles are good but can be easily swarmed if defense oesn't get their act together. Cerberus has the most insane start of round this side of Karkand, and the fact that offense has to go uphill ALL THE WAY complicates offense a lot.

Or the same strategy as in most, not all of the maps feature a breach of defense? If you read the descriptions you'll notice the Euro "campaign" has the EU fending off the PAC army, and ultimately they lost Europe to PAC; then the North African teather of operation has both PAC and EU fighting for energy sources or food, and as such roles are reversed or you get maps with uncapables for each army.

I can see what you mean with "simplistic" design, but seriously, with half the playerbase having trouble with the titans (and a good chunk running on borderline minimum specs) do you seriously think it's feasible to have a fully functional building in game? Let alone a whole city.

[siiix]

no, the atmosphere is great, i could look at the scenery all day long,
again i don’t mean how they LOOK because they ARE very very pretty

but most "city" maps are few skyscrapers witch you cant even get in to, there is nowhere to hide, nowhere to clime up/down, so the game play is pretty much running and if you see someone who ever hits the trigger 1st gets the kill

Berlin is really typical for this, at least in Belgrade you can take alternate routes and hide in a few places, Cerbere is the best (because its not just 10 skyscrapers) but still barely any rooftops or buildings you can use

I do not call a collection of 10 skyscrapers a city,
but I admit Belgrade & Cerbere are bit better

Pretty but not designed for strategic play.. that’s my problem, in bf2 you was able to hide and set traps, blow up bridges ect. In 2142 you do have the equipment but not the maps to use it – so it’s a step back from bf2 in this sense

I can see what you mean with "simplistic" design, but seriously, with half the playerbase having trouble with the titans (and a good chunk running on borderline minimum specs) do you seriously think it's feasible to have a fully functional building in game? Let alone a whole city.

yes, i think so the problem with the titan is not that its big or complex but that its big AND MOVING, there are plenty of bf2 custom maps that proved that better much more complex maps can be done

and exactly thats the problem what you just wrote "Same strategy as in what? IN each map everybody fires their guns at the enemy?" = no strategy, there is less room for strategy then in bf2, plus the maps are way to smal for 64 players, above 40 it turns in to "team deathmatch" - usualy thats the time when i log out of the server

[Unfocused]

I think most of the maps are great, more than in BF2

[Svartberg]

I find the maps a lot better than BF2 as well, however i think they look a lot worse and boring.
In BF2 it was the other way around for me, i really liked how they looked and were built, but i hated how they played out in practice. (vehicle whoring, not enough place for infantry, etc)

[Dangerdog]

We're 2 maps short of what they had in BF2, maybe they'll toss out a few maps in patches like they eventually did in BF2.

I expect an expansion pack announcement any day now lol.

[Gabe]

You have got to be kidding me right? These maps are so much better than the BF2 maps. And wtf? No city maps? What do you call Cerbere, Berlin, Belgrade? "Berlin" and "Belgrade" happen to be RL cities so I don't know where you're getting this from.

i agree

[CrysisPwnz]

"Better" isn't a useful word in this kind of conversation. I disagree, I think the maps LOOK boring, there are 2 templates. Snow and Desert with a tint of orange ness to make it look pretty. Im not fooled though, BF2 had WAY better maps in terms of variety, you can go from jungle to city to island. In 2142 its just snow to sand.

Of course BF2142 will LOOK prettier, they're on a better engine to perform more visual feats of awe just to make people overlook the fact that they put less than half the content into BF2142 than BF2.

Strategically and gameplay wise I could care less, all the maps in BF2/2142 play the same with the light exception of Titans, and that is the Titan itself. Its drive cap, drive cap, shoot, respawn, cap.

[rumple9]

i agree - the maps suck -read my review here

http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/action/battlefield2142/player_review.html?id=374770

[Revoluti0n]

I cant even read siiiiiixs posts because of that avatar, makes me want to barf or something.

LOL!

Actually, there are city maps:

Belgrade
Fall of Berlin
Cerebre Landing
Tunis Harbor - Kind of a city type map

[Chasepwner]

Hmm yea many of the maps play the same - one team has to push forward under lots of fire and grab the back flags.

[Jiey]

i agree - the maps suck -read my review here

http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/action/battlefield2142/player_review.html?id=374770

Good thing you dont get paid for reviews.. I rate your review 3.1 poor

[Revoluti0n]

Hmm yea many of the maps play the same - one team has to push forward under lots of fire and grab the back flags.

That is the nature of the game. I hope people were not expecting Mario Kart style game p:rolleyes: lay here...

[redheadedfreak]

You guys are missing the most insane city/urban map out there...Camp Gibraltar. The way Gibraltar and Tunis Harbor use elevated walkways puts firefights on two levels which gets very intense.

[jackal22]

i have to agree, there are no decent good city maps. i wouldnt care infact i would love for ea to just port karkand to 2142 exactly how it is in bf2 and make up some bs story of why its still perfectly intact.

man i miss sharqi and karkand, ea please port them into 2142.

[siiix]

LOL!

Actually, there are city maps:

Belgrade
Fall of Berlin
Cerebre Landing
Tunis Harbor - Kind of a city type map

fall of Berlin is just a collection of a few skyscrapers - if you would replace them with rocks absolutely nothing would change in game play

Cerebre Landing is the only one that has that city like feeling line bf2 maps have, there is a few places you can hide but not much

Belgrade does look like a city because its so big, but you do not play it like a city map, just because there are no small alleys and different streets where you can hide and run, cant climb on roofs

now the rest is a joke , 2 skyscrapers on a snow hill damn that creative ; )

pretty much the only map I play is Cerebre Landing but definitely it will not become the new karkand

That is the nature of the game. I hope people were not expecting Mario Kart style game p lay here...

ever downloaded custom maps for bf2 ? Many put ANY original bf2 map to shame, what even sadder is that a few of those great custom maps someone 1st or 2nd ever map design job is – and they only do it for the love to the game not $
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dont get me wrong i'm happy with the $25 i invested in to 2142, i'm just sad how much better it could be with so little extra effort from ea : /

[Khalsa_Fauj]

i like em there mostly city maps and like there in the future!

[Cade]

Hmm yea many of the maps play the same - one team has to push forward under lots of fire and grab the back flags.

amg no wai

You guys are missing the most insane city/urban map out there...Camp Gibraltar. The way Gibraltar and Tunis Harbor use elevated walkways puts firefights on two levels which gets very intense.

QFT

[Sethonan]

ever downloaded custom maps for bf2 ? Many put ANY original bf2 map to shame, what even sadder is that a few of those great custom maps someone 1st or 2nd ever map design job is – and they only do it for the love to the game not $
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dont get me wrong i'm happy with the $25 i invested in to 2142, i'm just sad how much better it could be with so little extra effort from ea : /

And usually these guys end up doing it for the $$ and designing maps like those we have now. Seriously man, I don't get you, compared to the default BF2 maps, not counting the Road to Jalalabad one; BF2142 feel much better designed.

Other point I don't get from people is the constant complaining that the maps are uninteresting because they are devoid of "color". It's the middle of an ice age people, it's set in Europe and North Africa. Go check a map boys, most of north africa is DESERT. Of course maps are only going to come in two flavors: snowy landscape and sandy landscape. Geez.

[FireSoul667]

They're fine, though the maps are a bit more... open to allow people to actually have a life span longer than 5 seconds. They're fine, there's plenty of choke points in the map to give you a good city fight.

[Revoluti0n]

i have to agree, there are no decent good city maps. i wouldnt care infact i would love for ea to just port karkand to 2142 exactly how it is in bf2 and make up some bs story of why its still perfectly intact.

man i miss sharqi and karkand, ea please port them into 2142.

Why don't you just fire up BF2 then? That is the most redundant thing that EA could do to this new game, it completely goes against the story line of 2142.
How could they possibly say, "The Earth is freezing due to a new Ice Age, yet Karkand and Sharqi are still somehow hotter than hell"?

[Alaz]

I don't agree with this thread in respect to city maps, I think Belgrade and Berline are more city like then Karkand, which has more open spaces imo. I suppose it doesn't change the fact you don't like it, but I still think the urban maps are great.

[Splinter]

Kark sucks, always has always will.
Nothing but nade spam heaven.
At least the new maps in 2142 are well made and enjoyable.
Cerbere Landing
Berlin
Camp Gibraltar
Tunis Harbor
These are great for Inf fighting with the odd walker here or there.

[Svartberg]

So far i liked the maps i played, except for Minsk - damn this map is simply abysmal.

[ThirtyOughtSix]

i had my hopes up that the beta and demo maps would be just the bottom, and the rest of the maps will be better

but not only the game has no better maps but they all near identical ?! in fact vernun is one of the best and even sidi is by far not the worst under the 10 maps (witch I naively assumed 1st)

in bf2 i was disappointed about the maps, but now i'm just shocked

don’t get me wrong its NOT the looks what i have a problem with - they look ok

but they all exactly the same, the way you play (strategy)

AND not even ONE city map... i mean EA know very well that city maps where the most popular in bf2 and sf and they don’t even put ONE in 2142 ?!!!

there are barely any building you can go in to, or clime, or hide, and the few that you can are the same on every map (and are extremely simple)

I love the game, BUT damn EA. I hope the community will create custom maps so we can enjoy 2142 to its full potential
:confused:
actually I suspect why they all identical, it would been to “much” work for EA to make different maps for conquest and titan, and a city map is not really usable for titan mode (or at least would require LOT of creativity)… still laziness is not an excuse in my eyes by a $50 game that will probably sell over ½ million copies

WTH are you talking about?!?!?! There are like at least 3 city maps on this game! Thing is, they are NOT titan mode. Conquest only.

[the_bruce_lee]

You must be on crack there are alot of city levels and they are all great and look beautiful you must be playing on Ultra low settings. The levels are amazing in 2142, MUCH better than bf2 levels...

[sarb]

berlin is a city map...

as far as all the buildings being simple/same in every map...all the buildings in bf2 were the same too.

only thing i dont like is that all of them are pretty dark maps, none are really all that bright and well lit.

[=VTA=MANFACE]

Why don't you just fire up BF2 then? That is the most redundant thing that EA could do to this new game, it completely goes against the story line of 2142.
How could they possibly say, "The Earth is freezing due to a new Ice Age, yet Karkand and Sharqi are still somehow hotter than hell"?

Well, they would be hotter with no ice..they are in the desert.

:D

[=VTA=MANFACE]

Kark sucks, always has always will.


Perhaps to you, but it is one of the most POPULAR map on BF2.

Perhaps you suck at karkland.:D

[siiix]

You must be on crack there are alot of city levels and they are all great and look beautiful you must be playing on Ultra low settings. The levels are amazing in 2142, MUCH better than bf2 levels...

you dont read the entire post, i said they are pretty just crap to play at
i can make screenshoots all day OR enjoy the view, it does not change the fact that they not as much fun to play on, its not a screensaver its a game ; )

[Rexob]

The maps look incredible, and the dreary feel accurately portrays the storyline given in the opening. If you're looking for a city map...Belgrade and Fall of Berlin are about your best hope, I think there is another. Those are the two maps I typically look for when playing. Belgrade I find most enjoyable because while vehicles are present, they are not nearly as effective as on some of the other more open-spaced maps. The streets make it difficult to maneuver in, also making it easy to destroy the vehicles. I'm not complaining about the vehicles though, because they are a lot of fun. However, I prefer the squad based, FPS aspect more geared towards infantry.

[Deicide]

Belgrade and Berlin are insane maps on conquest. Look beautiful. Killing fields. The works. Running across the park with the swingsets and mowing people down is great.