View Full Version : Rail-Gun Turret: Working As Intended
WinterNight
11-06-2006, 07:17 PM
I don't know if anyone else has the tendency to do this, but sometimes I'll hop in a rail-gun turret and snipe at people running within my line of fire. It's surprisingly effective.
Is it supposed to be? I mean I understand the "real-life" application, but should an anti-vehicle weapon be that effective against infantry? Anyone else do this?
FOGofWAR
11-06-2006, 07:19 PM
I don't know if anyone else has the tendency to do this, but sometimes I'll hop in a rail-gun turret and snipe at people running within my line of fire. It's surprisingly effective.
Is it supposed to be? I mean I understand the "real-life" application, but should an anti-vehicle weapon be that effective against infantry? Anyone else do this?
I have no problem with cutting you out of your turret and adding your tags to my collection.
Legli
11-06-2006, 07:21 PM
Its effective but slow to turn - plus the enemy knows where you are after a shot or two. I generally manage to knife these folk if they are not careful. I think it is meant to be so, and thats probably why it is so slow to turn, not to stop you hitting vehicles at long range but to make it slightly less dangerous to infantry :)
Deesies
11-06-2006, 07:22 PM
it's fine :)
FPS[VT_NERD]
11-06-2006, 07:22 PM
Its effective but slow to turn - plus the enemy knows where you are after a shot or two. I generally manage to knife these folk if they are not careful. I think it is meant to be so, and thats probably why it is so slow to turn, not to stop you hitting vehicles at long range but to make it slightly less dangerous to infantry :)
Bump up your sensitivity in the settings menu, it's not slow to turn. I have never managed to hit an infantry gun running along, but even on the run I get nailed with the rail gun from time to time. Is there some trick to using it?
onehitah
11-06-2006, 07:23 PM
Dude I'm embarrassed when I get decked buy that thing. It's kinda funny actually, when you rail someone up close, right in the face, and they go flying...
Yeah I just tap the sensitivity up on the mouse and swing that thing around like tank, turret.
VT: You know you can zoom in with it right? Now that does slow it way down, but it brings up the cross hairs.
WinterNight
11-06-2006, 07:23 PM
Thank God. I guess I was just owning a bunch of n00bs.
Zoopy
11-06-2006, 07:24 PM
How would an energy beam with the capacity of distroying a tank or armoured car not kill a guy wearing heavy armour?
MrChris_CJ
11-06-2006, 07:27 PM
should in theory rip him into tiny little pieces
you aint getting resd now boy!!!
but yeh the railguns fun to snipe with, on sidi power plant i like to get on the one that overlooks the bridge to the middle silo and shoot tons of stuff from there :D :D :D :D
WinterNight
11-06-2006, 07:31 PM
How would an energy beam with the capacity of distroying a tank or armoured car not kill a guy wearing heavy armour?
I understand the 'real-life' application, but I was wondering if game-wise it should be doing this.
CarbonFire
11-06-2006, 07:32 PM
How would an energy beam with the capacity of distroying a tank or armoured car not kill a guy wearing heavy armour?
Railgun isn't an energy beam, its a super-accelerated piece of specialized metal alloy capable of massive damage potential.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun
But now to the point. The railgun is GREAT against infantry, you just have to know how to aim at them. The railgun projectile is very small and thus when shooting at distance its quite hard to pick people off without "ranging" them. Generally I've had the most success if I aim just below and just right of center when zoomed in. Don't even bother if zoomed out :)
I've gone on 25-0 kill streaks on Suez with the railguns because people don't see the trail unless they are right near or IN the path of it. If they aren't looking, you can have great success.
FoxFire5
11-06-2006, 07:44 PM
Railgun isn't an energy beam, its a super-accelerated piece of specialized metal alloy capable of massive damage potential.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun
But now to the point. The railgun is GREAT against infantry, you just have to know how to aim at them. The railgun projectile is very small and thus when shooting at distance its quite hard to pick people off without "ranging" them. Generally I've had the most success if I aim just below and just right of center when zoomed in. Don't even bother if zoomed out :)
I've gone on 25-0 kill streaks on Suez with the railguns because people don't see the trail unless they are right near or IN the path of it. If they aren't looking, you can have great success.
Amen! Finally someone else who uses the Rorsch to its full potential!
Savethehumans
11-06-2006, 08:00 PM
I don't know if anyone else has the tendency to do this, but sometimes I'll hop in a rail-gun turret and snipe at people running within my line of fire. It's surprisingly effective.
Is it supposed to be? I mean I understand the "real-life" application, but should an anti-vehicle weapon be that effective against infantry? Anyone else do this?
An AA gun in 1942 will kill a man, as should one in 2142.
FPS[VT_NERD]
11-06-2006, 08:32 PM
Dude I'm embarrassed when I get decked buy that thing. It's kinda funny actually, when you rail someone up close, right in the face, and they go flying...
Yeah I just tap the sensitivity up on the mouse and swing that thing around like tank, turret.
VT: You know you can zoom in with it right? Now that does slow it way down, but it brings up the cross hairs.
I know about the zoom, but I still always miss. I'm sure it's just my lack of skill using it on infantry. I'll try CarbonFire's suggestion for aiming and perhaps I'll have better luck with some practice.
Savethehumans, the rail gun is not the AA gun; it is the equivalent of the TOW missile from BF2 (i.e. ground defense).
Dismay
11-06-2006, 09:25 PM
Yeah when you zoom in it gets really slow to move, the only way I see is have a mouse with on the fly sens adjustment, like someone else mentioned. zoomed out is pretty useless against infantry.
AlabamaMan
11-06-2006, 09:42 PM
Place APM behind the turret, and just wait for those collecters to come at ya. Squish. It works for when you have a tank parked with the back exposed. I love it.
CarbonFire
11-06-2006, 09:56 PM
I know about the zoom, but I still always miss. I'm sure it's just my lack of skill using it on infantry. I'll try CarbonFire's suggestion for aiming and perhaps I'll have better luck with some practice.
Savethehumans, the rail gun is not the AA gun; it is the equivalent of the TOW missile from BF2 (i.e. ground defense).
Except of course the TOW was nowhere near as effective at anti-infantry as the Railgun is ;)
And I've found that the aiming just below and right of the center isn't a hard and fast rule, as it seems to depend on the distance of your target. Farther away I think its closer to the center, near targets seen to deviate more. YMMV
And YES dynamic mouse sensitivity helps a whole lot. Reminds me of the MG's in DOD:S....high sens is a savior there as well.
I think the railgun is too accurate. If the enemy owns the central point in sidi you are sit there all day long on one side or the other sniping at anything that moves getting kill after kill. It's pretty easy to spot movement, just a couple of moving pixels and I'll hit them most times and there's nothing they can do. Too easy, it just gets a bit boring.
Blast2hell
11-06-2006, 10:24 PM
while that rail gun is a one shot kill against infantry, it's not a super easy thing to do, plus your very vunerable when sitting in that gun.
The 13th Raptor
11-06-2006, 10:26 PM
If a railgun can see you, you can see it, its fairly simple to return fire.. with say a rocket, just dont stand in a obvious spot while you do it.
Affliction
11-07-2006, 12:33 AM
I understand the 'real-life' application, but I was wondering if game-wise it should be doing this.
Exactly. They make AA guns worthless against infantry and vehicles, so why would anti-vehicle guns be useful against infantry? Of course, there are no anti-infantry turrets in the game so maybe they just made one for both.
Cigar_Man
11-07-2006, 11:38 AM
The railgun at the center silo on Verdun is the best place to sit. I can out-snipe the snipers with it and I can start nailing any tank or transport before they are in range to get me. I have also become very proficient at leading the aircraft and shooting them down also.
As others have said, just crank up the mouse settings for vehicles as they effect the movement of the rail also.
I either setup a sentry or apm's while I use the railgun. I have been knifed while in the railgun, forgot to setup my defense.
Vundu
11-07-2006, 11:39 AM
I have no problem with cutting you out of your turret and adding your tags to my collection.
I have had many knife kills that way :)
munky99999
11-07-2006, 11:47 AM
this one round on fall of berlin was silly. The mech and apc of my team where kinda hiding around the corner closer to the 2nd flag. So the enemy mech and apc were fairly safe to come up close. Which I jump in the railgun and destroyed them both. Which was wierd because they didnt seem to shoot back. then I notice like 5 enemies sitting in the area just near the flag above the ladder try to get a look at my team's apc and mech. I just shoot them. Not actually expecting to actually hurt them or anything.. but pow one kill. They all seem to freeze where they were and i shoot another and they just stay right there. I shoot another until they are all gone. I believe I got 13 kills before they even bothered to fight back. Was like the second day of 2142. I didnt know u could use them to shoot infantry and the other people seemed to not know that neither. As they all seemed to freeze when I shot at them.
Mr_canman87
11-07-2006, 01:27 PM
How would an energy beam with the capacity of distroying a tank or armoured car not kill a guy wearing heavy armour?
A railgun isn't an energy beam. It's a bullet/projectile that's shot out of the barrel with forces derived from electromagnets.
Granted, that doesn't change the fact that it would incinerate a human. They're looking at mounting these things on ships that could blow up bases halfway around the world.
Look it up sometime. It's quite interesting ;)
Painmaker
11-07-2006, 02:06 PM
A railgun isn't an energy beam. It's a bullet/projectile that's shot out of the barrel with forces derived from electromagnets.
Granted, that doesn't change the fact that it would incinerate a human. They're looking at mounting these things on ships that could blow up bases halfway around the world.
Look it up sometime. It's quite interesting ;)
railguns ftw ^^
its so easy agains infantry... and @ AA guns, one hit is 50% dmg to a heavy armor soldier, 2 hits kill...
Legli
11-07-2006, 02:52 PM
Bump up your sensitivity in the settings menu, it's not slow to turn. I have never managed to hit an infantry gun running along, but even on the run I get nailed with the rail gun from time to time. Is there some trick to using it?
Ahhh! Cheers for that, I'll give that a shot tonight, I thought it was bound to that turning speed. Guessing that works for tanks and such too eh? I'm such an idiot.
WinterNight
11-07-2006, 02:58 PM
railguns ftw ^^
its so easy agains infantry... and @ AA guns, one hit is 50% dmg to a heavy armor soldier, 2 hits kill...
Hitting infantry is the tough part. You can fire until your turret overheats and you won't hit one 5 feet in front of you.
Painmaker
11-07-2006, 03:06 PM
Hitting infantry is the tough part. You can fire until your turret overheats and you won't hit one 5 feet in front of you.
its easy, but everyone just aims at the infantry with the crosshair, that only works @ 100+ ft, if you want to hit someone, move it from side to side slowly, and youll hit them...
k1llglance
11-07-2006, 03:52 PM
sometimes being patient is a great thing. If you sit in the railgun and wait for the tank or tanks to go by (and not move) then take them from behind. Most of the time they don't pay attention to it. The other thing is that it has a fire cycle where it powers up. alot of people miss because they think they just have to aim and fire. You have to aim and move with target because of the fire cycle. As for infantry, I love to use it against them. specialy snipers. As armor I always will destroy these turrets when given the opportunity. Yes I have been knifed out the the turret but I have usually already done my damage. hope they wear my dog tags well.
AlphaNut
11-07-2006, 05:28 PM
I don't know if anyone else has the tendency to do this, but sometimes I'll hop in a rail-gun turret and snipe at people running within my line of fire. It's surprisingly effective.
Is it supposed to be? I mean I understand the "real-life" application, but should an anti-vehicle weapon be that effective against infantry? Anyone else do this?
If the enemy is not sleeping it will take him 2-3 Fockets to get rid of you and your railgun within a second :D
And I don't think using the railgun effectively is easy at all. It does require a decent amount of timing and high awareness after all.
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