Complete and Total BS!

[Orphious2006]

I was hoping this great and fun game would be fixed. I decided to jump back in for a couple rounds tonight. Nothing can be further than the truth. Since joining I have gotten 4 disconnects from the master server and 1 crash to desk top. Man I cant wait for Quake wars. I am so sick and tired of the grief and frustration that I have gone through with BF2 and 2142. I am just wondering with patch 1.1 due out if this will be fixed at last. So far it has been nothing but grief and empty promises on the part of Dice. Come on guys get your heads out of your 3rd point of contacts and fix the issues instead of improving active camo and other things. I am so sick of this. Never in my life on online FPS have I ever seen a product so full of bugs. BF2 and 2142 have been 2 of the most fun FPS I have ever played but it is just not worth the aggrivation any more.

MODs if need be move this to the proper forum. I dont care anymore. I posted here because this forum gets the most traffic.

[Seppuku]

okee.

[Raidyr]

Man I cant wait for Quake wars.

You and me both

[comfortably_numb]

I kept getting an insane amount of CTDs and then I reinstalled and I've had like 2 in the past month and a half.

The patches have solved a lot of problems, but considering how many problems there are that still means the game is, at times, unenjoyable.

[Got Your Back]

Maybe you should cuss out your ISP company or your firewall! I can't remember the last Master Server Disconnect I had. I may have a CTD (hitting the join button) once a night. (about 4 hrs) Many times I have none!

I feel for ya man, but it seems like if it was all the codings problem, then EVERYBODY would have it as bad as you.

Have you tried turning off VOIP in-game? Turning off EAX? Lowering certain graphics settings? Turning off Firewall? Anti-virus programs? Setting your game resolution the same as your out-of-game resolution? Calling your ISP & have them run a Line Test? Is your router outdated or older? (if you are using one)

Hope you get it all worked out because 2142 is an awesome game!

[CerberuS[TKQ]]

I cant remember the last time I got a master disconnect or CTD. I played from 11 am till 9 pm flawlessly.

[=BoW=Sangyerians]

It's Karma man.

[fknlo]

;182212']I played from 11 am till 9 pm.

holy get a ****ing life :laugh:

j/k... sort of ;)

[RevRen|Sloth]

holy get a ****ing life :laugh:

j/k... sort of ;)


I was thinking the same thing, except im not jokeing

[Merciless-]

I rarely get DCs(VERY Rarely, I havn't gotten one since the beta, lol)

I'v gotten 1-2 CTDs, so it must be your comp, or SOMETHING...becuase not everyone having as bad results as you, I suppose.

Go play Quake anyway, No one will honestly care, yes BF2142 is buggy, all games are buggy, get over it.

I might get Quake, but BF2142 and BF2 are still awsome games.

[Irresistable]

Are you using a wireless router? Most of those have issues too, mine does not, except for when my cordless phone is in the living room.

Other than that how do you know you won't have the same issues with Quake Wars??

[Raidyr]

Are you using a wireless router? Most of those have issues too, mine does not, except for when my cordless phone is in the living room.

Other than that how do you know you won't have the same issues with Quake Wars??

Because Quake Wars is being made by Splash Damage, a group of modders who are dedicated to the community?

Because Quake Wars runs on the Doom 3 engine, arguably one of the most reliable engines ever?

Because Quake Wars already has a large established community?

Yeah.

[JerKinXx]

4 words.
You've not played it.

[Raidyr]

4 words.
You've not played it.

How does that prove any of my statements wrong? Everything I said, EA cant match, so it is looking good for Quake Wars.

[JerKinXx]

How does that prove any of my statements wrong? Everything I said, EA cant match, so it is looking good for Quake Wars.
Stop posting in this forum if you don't like this game. ;)

[Raidyr]

Stop posting in this forum if you don't like this game. ;)

Whoa...

I love this game

I was just saying that Quake Wars is going to be awesome :D

[Lukey21]

Thread title is misleading, thought this was about LMG's :|:

[Svartberg]

4 words.
You've not played it.

Ditto, LOL !

Anyone thinking "OMG QUKE WARZ GONNA OWN EA LOL !!1" is just hyping himself and will surely be dissapointed.
Ye BF2142 was rushed hence it's bug infested (and most of those bugs will probably never get fixed), but the QW ingame vids just didn't impress me at all.

Once the demo is out I'll try it and buy it if it's any good.

[Oleg]

Because Quake Wars is being made by Splash Damage, a group of modders who are dedicated to the community?

Because Quake Wars runs on the Doom 3 engine, arguably one of the most reliable engines ever?

Because Quake Wars already has a large established community?

Yeah.

Group of EX modders who grew into a regular big *** dev company. Most companies - Dice included - start small and close to the "community" and (hopefully) grow big and bitter and greedy and all that. :cool:

Doom 3 engine is not the most reliable ever, and as far as the net code goes, it does not have any bragging rights AT ALL. As far as net code goes Unreal engine owns them all it's not even funny. Valve games netcode is solid too. All others lag behind (pun intended).

BF community > QW community.

This is not to say QW will not rock (personally I hope it will - more good games we have the better), but people posting how they are disappointed with BF only to go on posting that they can't wait for QW are terribly naive.

BTW based on gameplay movies QW appears to be total BF rip-off (which is not necessarily bad), only perhaps a tad bit less tactical (which IS bad IMO).

[Raidyr]

Group of EX modders who grew into a regular big *** dev company. Most companies - Dice included - start small and close to the "community" and (hopefully) grow big and bitter and greedy and all that. :cool:

Doom 3 engine is not the most reliable ever, and as far as the net code goes, it does not have any bragging rights AT ALL. As far as net code goes Unreal engine owns them all it's not even funny. Valve games netcode is solid too. All others lag behind (pun intended).

BF community > QW community.

This is not to say QW will not rock (personally I hope it will - more good games we have the better), but people posting how they are disappointed with BF only to go on posting that they can't wait for QW are terribly naive.

BTW based on gameplay movies QW appears to be total BF rip-off (which is not necessarily bad), only perhaps a tad bit less tactical (which IS bad IMO).

The Enemy Territory community as far better then BFs. While BF has a huge following, I think we can all agree there is just way too many assholes in it.

Secondly, have you ever played Enemy Territory? QW will be MORE tactical then BF because the largest QW map will be about the size of Belgrade, and the highest player numbers will be 24-32 per server.

Explain how QW copied BF?

[(Undecided)]

http://www.totalbf2142.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12991

[-2d- Recoil.]

Ive only ever been kicked off the Master Server once - in a clan match. :p

I've never yet been kicked back to the desktop though. Strangely enough, I've never had any problems with BF2 or 2142 :)

Good luck bro, but I do understand it's frustrating.

[Orphious2006]

Thanks to those who replyed with feed back on what to do about it. The thing is I have never had this many problems with any of the FPS games I own except for BF2 and BF 2142. The guys who asked if I am using a wireless router.....yes I am using a wireless router but the computer 2142 is installed in has a line connection and not wireless.

I seriously doubt this problem is with my ISP or my computer or router for that matter. Not when every game I play, Quake 4 and Far Cry just to name 2....dont have this problem at all. I have never gotten dropped from a server or crashed to desktop on either of those 2 games and never have with the other games I play as well.

To the guy who gave me a list of things to try.....Why should anyone have to do any of that to play this game when I dont have to do it for any others? I am not going to just drop my firewall, turn off this and that, uninstall anything. That solution is monkey ****!!!

I tell ya if I could return this game I would. I know I wont be buying any more games produced by Dice.....no expansion packs, no booster packs...NOTHING. And I will suggest to my friends who play online FPS along with me to do the same except most of them were not sheep such as I and didnt buy 2142 because of the problems with BF2....If only I had listened.

[Loco_Bandito]

I had no problem with the beta.

[Deesies]

1.1 doesn't fix master server disconnects nor does it help even a little.

[Nefarious]

Its odd how wide ranging the problems are. Some get master server disconnects, others dont and the same goes for CTDs. For instance, I have a total of 5 master server disconnects. 1 was in mutliplayer while I was quiting the round. The other 4 were in single player, which I really dont care about and rarely play anyways. CTDs are no more for me either, ever since the patch and I upgraded my video card drivers to Cataylst 6.11.

[LahLahSr]

The bottom line is that it shouldn't happen at all. The BF franchise has turned into a series of half-finished products - but players have become used to it.

I don't recall many other games having this many technical problems from the get-go - besides perhas JoWoods total disaster called "Soldner: Secret Wars".

The fact that these odd CTD's and disconnects hit people in a seemingly "random" fashion - some get it often, some get occasionally and some never - suggests that it's a difficult problem to solve. This, in turn, explains why it hasn't been fixed.

It can't be chalked up to the ISPs (Internet Service providers) since you don't get these kind of disconnects with other programs.

BF2142 is somehow more sensitive to momentary loss of packet-flows or something like that. The program's ability to handle even small pauses in the connection is possibly weak.

I don't get them often, but when I do get them it's usually around the time where a new round begins - and if you look at the message-window when starting a new round, there are almost always a 1-4 players who are being disconnected.

I can live with this - I still play the game - but I can't say I'm impressed with the overall eprformance of this game, in terms of stability.

[BahamutZ3RO]

It's a matter of BF2142's ranking and unlock systems.

[whitehunter]

I almost never CTD and never had a lost connection to master server. SO i am betting it is your computer

[brownstonemr]

Hey BadKarma someone told me about updating punkbuster manually and that could help solve disconnect issues. I must say that since doing so I have experienced less disconnects. Im not sure if that is latest patches or EA actually doing server fixes. Certain times of the day I still may get EA Master disconnects but less frequent.

Anyways go to punkbusters website and download pbsetup.exe.

http://www.punkbuster.com/index.php?page=pbsetup.php

Try manually updating PB that way.

[brownstonemr]

I almost never CTD and never had a lost connection to master server. SO i am betting it is your computer

Well there are loads of people that get EA master server disconnects and from what I understand EA have even stated it was their problem.

CS Source, GRAW, Call Of Juarez, Prey all work fine multiplayer and I never get stupid disconnects. I know your response was aimed at someone else but I wouldn't say its peoples computers that are the issues. Maybe its only those that play on routers, but as I mentioned, no other games have issues with my router.

[Snooze]

I will bet you the problems with your system that cause the crashing with BF2142 will still create problems with QuakeWars

[Binkley]

I had pretty much constant server disconnects. Then EA suggested that I limit the game to just using 1 processor. Now it works. I guess the code has problems with the AMD 64 X2 cpu.

[MrChris_CJ]

hey ive been waiting for quake wars for ages, and its like the guy said its karma :p

and if your pc crashes a lot during bf (i have a high end one and it never does) tehn think of how the lovely looking etqw will rape your fps :D :D

[Raidyr]

Yeah, I have only ever once lost connection to the master server since I have had the game, but I CTD atleast once every 1-2 hours. Its very random :(

Quake Wars should run better then BF2142, because QW runs on the Doom 3 engine,which uses less resources then the hideous BF2 engine.

[Orphious2006]

hey ive been waiting for quake wars for ages, and its like the guy said its karma :p

and if your pc crashes a lot during bf (i have a high end one and it never does) tehn think of how the lovely looking etqw will rape your fps :D :D

I can pretty much say with confidence that it is NOT my PC.

Intel Pentium D 3.0 Ghz
2 Gigs of Ram
2 x 7800 GT SLI
160 Gog WD HDs in raid 0

More than enough to run this game. I am using a LynkSys Wireless B router but the computer I play on is wired and I am not playing over a wireless connection. I can rule out my router as I have played with the ISP connected right to my computer and I still get the disconnects. I dont get the disconnects in BF2 but I get CTD at least once a night when I play. With 2142 I usually get the disconnects in about the 1st half hour. Sometime 4 or 5 and then it will finally settle down and let me play for around an hour and them BAM!!! CTD!!!!

To the person who said only running 1 processor will help....I fail to see how it has anything to do with disconnects...I can see it helping for CTD but again I can say with confidence that the disconnects are all on EAs side. Even if these problems only happen once in awhile its still BS that it happens at all. I have never and I mean NEVER had any of these problems with any of the other games I play. That can only lead me to believe that the problems are with the POS games EA/Dice have rushed to store shelves. Dont get me wrong the game is great fun when it works which is seldom for me. It is just not worth the frustration any more. It is not worth the hassle of listening the BS that the Dice Live Team puts out about how they have "fixed" most of these issues.

Believe me I know alot of people that play online FPS...I have alot of cousins and friends who have asked me about this game. I tell anyone who asks to save their money and play another game. As a matter of fact I was in Walmart today Xmass shopping and I was browsing the PC games. I saw a guy pick a copy of 2142 up and ask his friend if he thought the game was any good. I jumped in the conversation and promptly told them that yes the game is great fun and then described all the problems I have had with it. He put it back and said he will save his money. So in a small way, I feel like I am sticking right back to Dice/EA even though I know that preventing a small number of people from buying the game will ever be noticed.

[Orphious2006]

Just tried to play again...3 Master Server disconnects and plus any server I log into I didnt have my rank or unlocks...just as the title of this thread says...Complete and TOTAL BS!!

[Cranks-X]

I'm having a great time, very few problems.

[Warrior[DD]]

Go away :)

[Netherweave]

Meh, Quake...

Somehow, the thought of bouncing around on trampolines while firing rockets at camouflaged lizards is not appealing to me.

Maybe I'll change my mind after I play the demo.

[Orphious2006]

;185346']Go away :)

I will not go away. I will continue to tell everyone I know about this. I cant believe I put up with it for this long...I cant believe anyone puts up with it for that matter.

[Warrior[DD]]

If you want something done about it contact Dice/EA, you will get nothing resolved to fix your problem here. The game runs fine for My clan and myself, I get tired of hearing people whine about problems that probably exist on there end!!!