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JohnnySupreme
12-09-2006, 11:31 AM
I was recently accused of stat padding because I was hovering the Gunship next to the enemy Titan waiting for enemy Transports and Gunships. When the emerged I would rocket them down. At the point in the round I was doing this both Titans were close together and both had their shields down. All I was doing was defending the Titan, however, I admit it was a little 'cheap' although effective. We won the round.

Does anyone else do this and would it be considered cheating? Its not like I could let them get out because I would not have time to kill them before they reached my teams Titan.

Also, in general, is this considered base raping?

Raidyr
12-09-2006, 11:34 AM
Eh, depends really. If you were hovering within range of the AA minguns, then no, its perfectly fine and they are just retarded.

If you were hiding somewhere else...I dunno...Its kind of lame but it really is one of those borderline things imo.

TrooperJac
12-09-2006, 11:37 AM
I think it's a legit tactic. It's a battle isn't it - not cricket.

Shada
12-09-2006, 11:47 AM
Surely they could just turn on the active defense and fly straight out? And if the titans are close together they probably could've just podded onto it rather than used the transport. Also, if you're out of sight of their AA guns they could've simply drop podded onto you to take you out.

And who accused you of statpadding? It's their own fault for not realising alternatives. Probably the same people who insist on entering titans through the "secret" vents - even though they're often the most guarded entrances and the most difficult to get through. Pfft.

SilentSwift
12-09-2006, 11:48 AM
totally legit ... Somebody coulda / shoulda shot you down with a Pilum or something

Irresistable
12-09-2006, 11:53 AM
This one takes skill.

Svartberg
12-09-2006, 11:58 AM
It's totally legit, plus you need a willing gunner who'll stick with you also.

And let's not forget that it only takes one pilum shot to send you haywire ...

SilentSwift
12-09-2006, 12:00 PM
thats what i was saying ..
any half witted pilum equiped engy shoulda been like

"woot free points for me "

JohnnySupreme
12-09-2006, 12:44 PM
totally legit ... Somebody coulda / shoulda shot you down with a Pilum or something

I move about quite a bit when I do this. A Pilum shot would need to be a good one.

Im glad no-one considers it cheating. I shall carry on until they figure out how to kill me.

Waatrope
12-09-2006, 12:49 PM
I have done this multiple times and i have never been accused of statpadding.
I think it's perfectly legit tactic. And it's efficent too.

(Undecided)
12-09-2006, 01:24 PM
If you can actually use a gunship effectively then do so.

Honestly, if I had been in one of those transports I would have been able to shoot you down.

Ezekiel
12-09-2006, 02:57 PM
its just like camping spawn beacons, its not cheating there choosing to spawn there, as these guys are choosing to get into gunships/transports, and you are around the titan, so there is 2 AA guns on it, then 4 turrets could hit you, someone could pod onto you, you could be hit by an anti-tank/pilum, and there will be aa guns on the ground as well.

Completely legit

mjt2289
12-09-2006, 03:00 PM
Don't think this one's statpadding since it actually takes some skill. Not your fault that they can't think of some creative way of shootin you down...like perhaps podding from the titan through your gunship?!!

Vreki
12-09-2006, 03:03 PM
its just like camping spawn beacons, its not cheating there choosing to spawn there, as these guys are choosing to get into gunships/transports, and you are around the titan, so there is 2 AA guns on it, then 4 turrets could hit you, someone could pod onto you, you could be hit by an anti-tank/pilum, and there will be aa guns on the ground as well.

Completely legit

Camping a spawn beacon is not cheating, but I would considered it lame.

It is classic spawn camping where you take advantage of the enemy being disoriented and defenceless. Just destroy the beacon and move on.


The Gunship thing is different, since the spawn is completely secure, the enemy is heavily armed and have plenty of time to asses the situation.
It is just a good honest ambush.

TB-303
12-09-2006, 03:06 PM
Sounds fine to me mate, if they'd bothered their arse, they would have got you with the AA guns, or got a few guys with SAAW on the roof and you'd be 'bye bye' very quickly. The only camping we object to on our server is uncaps (no camping, no artillery) and no camping the titan shielded exits - y'know, the one way force fields. Camp the corridor if you like, but no RDX or APM's right next to the one way shields.

Come to think of it, why didn't they put one way shields round the reactor core :lol:

Some people just have no imagination when it comes to counter tactics, I mean, there's nothing wrong with camping a spawn beacon if the enemy is stupid enough to keep using it, knowing you're camping it :)

midnitebassist
12-09-2006, 03:14 PM
One of my old clan members seems to have a fetish for dropping motion mines on top of the hangar after the shields go down. Somebody tries to take off, and bam. Dead.

Aedus
12-09-2006, 03:16 PM
Legit ofc

Can be countered so many ways

AA guns under the titan

Pod out of the titan and hit the gunship

SAAW

Ramming with transport

Other gunship killing you


Nothing wrong with it at all, if they were so stupid to not do any of them it's thir own fault

Chewy_Solo
12-09-2006, 03:42 PM
i do it so yeah i think its fine.. lol but yeah its fair WAR IS WAR.... war isnt full of girlscouts complaining about people stat padding and hacking...

Mongo Only Pawn
12-09-2006, 04:56 PM
It's totally fine! Hell, when the 2 titans are within range of each other, I'll just sit there in the titan AA (wow that thing OWNS) and keep shooting any gunship/transport (remember - NO HELOS IN BF2142!) that tries to leave. I've gotten like 40 kills IAR doing this.

**A side-note. 99.9% of the time I'm doing this, I'm commander. So don't do that whole "whoreing" thing. It's the best way I know how to be in the action and be an effective commader at the same time....

LahLahSr
12-09-2006, 05:04 PM
Absolutely legit.

The shoulder-mounted AA rocket launcher (SAAW) would have been a threat to you, regardless of your weaving and bobbing and anyone coul've stepped out of the hangar-shields to engage your gunship.

Alternatly they could've podded to or spawned on the ground and done the same thing.

Titans close to each other often "camp" the enemy's launch-bay with the AA turrets anyway.

And even if you were completely dominant, players could pod to or spawn on the ground.

Besides you pay a "price" - if you're that good nobody will engage you which is reducing your role to guard-duty with a very small point-potential, whicle still being exposed to many risks.

No, keep this up if it's effective - anyone giving you grief about this are not thinking straight.

Snooze
12-09-2006, 06:30 PM
I would had podded on top of you for the equally effective kill.

Riggz
12-09-2006, 08:45 PM
It's war...do whatever it takes to win..nice guys finish last

w33t
12-09-2006, 10:39 PM
Camping a spawn beacon is not cheating, but I would considered it lame.

It is classic spawn camping where you take advantage of the enemy being disoriented and defenceless. Just destroy the beacon and move on..

To win the game you have to deplete the enemy tickets, what better way than killing without being killed?

Camping a SLSB, rather than just destroying it, is an effective tactic for two reasons.

1) You are wearing down the teams tickets and depriving them of players
2) You have effectively neutralized a squads mobile-spawning ability. While the SLSB is deployed, the squad leader is essentially neutered of his most important ability - serving as a mobile spawn point. You have essentially destroyed the effectiveness of an enemy squad.

I could see it being considered "dirty". But like sniping, RDX'ing a flag, throwing frags on a fallen enemy for his medic, knifing the unsuspecting or any one of a dozen other things, this is totally valid and is in fact an advantageous tactic for your team in general.

Also it's super fun, and you can make a great drinking game out of killing the podders with knifes and defibs :D

and back on topic, the gunship thing is totally legit as well. I personally love hovering the transport over the back of the friendly titan and having my two gunners mow-down the podders, now that's good clean fun! :laugh:

rowdyman
12-10-2006, 01:03 AM
The only camping we object to on our server is uncaps (no camping, no artillery) and no camping the titan shielded exits - y'know, the one way force fields. Camp the corridor if you like, but no RDX or APM's right next to the one way shields.

Sorry Bro,(not a personal attack by any means, so no offence meant) but Eff that! You can always pod to the back of your own titan and flank the beyotches trying to take your core, free and easy titan defense points because nobody looks over their shoulder and just assumes the sound of footsteps behind them is their buddy (whom I just tea bagged; check the sig). I say camp anywhere and everywhere, there is almost always a way out (almost).

comfortably_numb
12-10-2006, 01:24 AM
If they were smart they would have just launched pods up and then land them on you. That's what I do to kill gunships and transports.

Spectrums
12-10-2006, 02:02 AM
Hard to pull off, but legit nonetheless.

straz
12-10-2006, 02:20 AM
very legit

the best tactic for the gunship is taking out podders that land on your own titan....all you have to do is camp the back of the titan i got a clanmate over 70 kills in one round with only about 5-6 deaths with the gunship

ThirtyOughtSix
12-10-2006, 03:07 AM
Almost bad as spawn camping... but not quite. Cheap indeed. Statpadding? nawwww. It is camping, but they DONT have to take off... actual SPAWN camping in conquest would be closer to padding then that. But even that isn't really considered padding... just VERY CHEAP. God knows I think it is.