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Rankith
01-02-2007, 10:16 AM
Just wondering how it stacks up? Is the RoF higher then the krylov? Higher then the SMGs? Damage higher? deviation? recoil?

The reason I ask.... I got the Baur a loooooong time ago, and absoultely love it. But I have a hard time doing very good up close with it unless I get a kinda lucky burst off.

I played Engy a bit ago just to get the bronze badge. And I absolutely owned with it, even at medium ranges, just a good couple bursts and they were gone, it destroyed up close too.

I also take the krylov over the baur almost every time too, as it does nearly as good at range since I just fire 2 shot bursts instead of single shot mode, and it does a good bit better up close(at least for me).

So again, what I am asking for, is how does the Voss compare to the SMG and krylov? As I am considering getting it. The ideal would be a comparison between its Damage, RoF, recoil and deviation/accuracy lol. Thanks in advance to whoever replies here.

U977
01-02-2007, 10:22 AM
No big surprise: the engineer SMG does a great job at short range. But at medium, its doing much less good, and it's useless at long range.

Assault weapons are good at short and medium, and still not useless at long range (but it becomes much more difficult than a sniper rifle. You have that waving motion while aiming too, but no sniper scope).

I find the the Voss easier to handle than the Baur, because it's more stable when you fire. And the 40 ammo magazine allows you to own several unsuspecting ennemies without even the need to reload (precious seconds saved before they realize what happens!).
I just use the Baur because I'm a fan of it, and for a change. But if I had to choose definitively between the two, just looking at my effectiveness with it, putting aside the "fan" factor, I'd pick up the Voss for sure.

Note: the engineer SMG is not subject to the same "waving motion" while you aim.


Voss VS Krylov? I didn't compare any figure, as you see.
I know the Krylov is very precise. But I have no problem hitting at longer distances with the Voss. It's precise enough. And the additional 10 ammo is really worth.
I can't say the same about the Baur... Sometimes, I'd swear the Baur reticle is not at the correct position :-) And the Baur is less forgiving when you waste ammo: you need to reload more often.

Rankith
01-02-2007, 10:29 AM
One thing that I noticed with the krylov and engy SMGs is that even at a long range(at least the krylov) I could do 2-3 shot bursts and have them all hit, thus making it almost as good as the Baur at long range. Does the Voss have this ability too? Would I be able to pop off 3 round burst to the head at a good distance?

Armada
01-02-2007, 10:47 AM
I like the voss over other weapons because you can use it with very long bursts, like 5 or 6 shots in one burst, without it spreading too much. Also the 40 bullet clip helps a lot in difficult situations like when you have 2 or more enemies nearby. IMO the baur plainly sucks.

KBH33
01-02-2007, 10:53 AM
Voss is good at short range (spray) Midium range (Burst of 8~10) and Long range as single short burst or single shot
But for SMGs....hmmmm I've just started using engy after I've got my Pilum I never seem to get any ppl further than 100 meter.

SO....I think Voss FTW it is

TheMofficer
01-02-2007, 11:20 AM
Point blank 0-10m
Voss* > Engie SMG > Lambert > Krylov

Close Range 10-20m
Voss > Engie SMG > Lambert > Krylov

Close-Medium Range 20-40m
Voss > Krylov/Lambert > Engie SMG

Medium Range 40m-60m
Voss > Krylov > Lambert > Engie SMG

Long range 60m +
Voss/Krylov > Lambert > Engie SMG (useless)

*If a person with a voss and an engie smg were to turn around a corner and unload the person with heavy armor would win, if both wearing heavy voss would win, if both wearing light then engie would win.

The_Eliminator
01-02-2007, 01:05 PM
I use the Baur alot as its much more damaging and a great weapon once mastered. The only draw backs are the magazine clip. I used to use the Voss alot but it is so ugly.

blank1
01-02-2007, 07:09 PM
The Krylov and Baur should outgun a Voss in the hands of a player who knows how to use the weapons at anything other than point blank. Why? Both weapons are more powerful and more precise. Low recoil does not mean better precision. It means you need to learn to make it precise just a little longer. The Krylov barely has any recoil anyway lol. The Voss's deviation is the worst of any assault rifle.

ShadowX8001
01-02-2007, 07:43 PM
I went from a support whore to Voss whore but man the Krylov still owns, and I stil lthat gun too, but the Vosses ammo is so much better

U977
01-02-2007, 07:47 PM
The time you need with the Baur to adjust and recover a precise shot can be fatal to you.

Stability is as important as precision. It's not only a matter of "mastering" the Baur. Of course, an excellent player with a Baur will beat a newbie with a Voss... But takes two players of equal skill on a hot battlefield.
It's a matter of weapon features first. And time is critical.

As I said, I'm a fan of the Baur and played a LOT with it recently, but the Voss would be my rational choice if I had to choose only one between the two.

Still, it's very fun to play with the Baur, which i find uglier than the Voss :)

The Krylov and Baur should outgun a Voss in the hands of a player who knows how to use the weapons at anything other than point blank. Why? Both weapons are more powerful and more precise. Low recoil does not mean better precision. It means you need to learn to make it precise just a little longer. The Krylov barely has any recoil anyway lol. The Voss's deviation is the worst of any assault rifle.

blank1
01-02-2007, 11:52 PM
Time to recover? I don't know if you're controlling your recoil well enough then. The Baur doesn't have any worse or better recovery time than the other rifles, just a smaller clip (if it had a 30 round clip it would be PWNSAUCE). Fast clicking the single shot or tossing at 3 - 4 round bursts in rapid succession is not that difficult, though it takes practice. The Voss is an easier weapon to use. I'm not saying it's worse because of that fact, because it's not. It has different uses. However, the Baur will certainly outgun a Voss at midrange if the Baur user is polished. I rarely fired more than a two rapid bursts to eliminate my enemies, and granted I do have spectacular aim (not trying to brag or anything... I'm a long time FPS vet). The Voss cetainly can compete at midrange, but the other assault rifles perform better there. The Voss is an infighter's gun, as it was intended, I believe.

TBH, I'm glad people aren't using the stock weapons as much as the unlocks. Scar or Krylov regardless, I can compete with the Voss and Baur in their specialties all while having the flexibility to perform their specialties well.