Goliath IFV?

[Deesies]

http://planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/

new vehicle perhaps? =o

Might hint at a new map too =o

[BahamutZ3RO]

...Isn't that an APC?

Nevermind, just noticed the treads, and the fact that it's like, twice the size of an APC. Hurray. Another impossible obstacle for the engineers to overcome. *MONKEY WRENCH.*

[Deesies]

I thought so too at first but the name throws me off.

(APC is a groundhog)

[Sugarbear(SID)]

I've had a bunch of ads like that, today I had one for the Type 36 Machimoto, and the ARN 480, which looked like a flyer, I've also had that goliath ad a ton lately.

[BahamutZ3RO]

SCREENIES AND POST PLZ.

I hope they can fit like, twenty people into that Goliath... and I hope that one Pilum will take it out.

[Deesies]

I've had a bunch of ads like that, today I had one for the Type 36 Machimoto, and the ARN 480, which looked like a flyer, I've also had that goliath ad a ton lately.

Could you post screenies? :)

[DeathEngineer]

Maybe this is just one of those "made up" ads that people send in to be displayed in the in-game billboards.

[Vyshus]

IMAGE REMOVED DUE TO BAD HOST!!!
Yes I know it's not very good, but it is good enough to read it. Looks like a hover FAV?

[=BoW=Sangyerians]

Maybe this is just one of those "made up" ads that people send in to be displayed in the in-game billboards.

Yeah it probably is (Sigh)

[Sugarbear(SID)]

that's one of the ads I was talking about, I just tried to play again to get some of the others and all I had on every server was Future Weapons. There is another one, with something that looks like a flyer, and another with a bunch of tiny little vehicles and the banner says "the future is coming" or something like that.

[Vyshus]

that's one of the ads I was talking about, I just tried to play again to get some of the others and all I had on every server was Future Weapons. There is another one, with something that looks like a flyer, and another with a bunch of tiny little vehicles and the banner says "the future is coming" or something like that.

Do you remember what maps they were? I found the hover apc thing on Cerbere. They might be map specific, so if you can remember what map they were on, then everyone can go on a scavenger hunt!

[Rynoto]

here's my screenie of the goliath ad. haven't seen the others.

http://3vilclan.com/content/images/kampfer/goliath.jpg

[Vladk1000]

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6069/bf21422007010220574431tt3.png

Yes I know it's not very good, but it is good enough to read it. Looks like a hover FAV?

Under the orange text it says "Wins battles in Europe" in Russian (if anyone was wondering what it said.)

[=BoW=Sangyerians]

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6069/bf21422007010220574431tt3.png

Yes I know it's not very good, but it is good enough to read it. Looks like a hover FAV?

How come it says Assault lvl 4 and you killed such and such +1.

is that Single Player?

[NorthernMonkey]

first expansion pack?

[Vyshus]

How come it says Assault lvl 4 and you killed such and such +1.

is that Single Player?

http://www.totalbf2142.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6526

[StealthClobber]

My Russian isn't perfected yet, I thought it said Carry Off Battles in Europe. I was like WTF?

[Deesies]

hachimotos look awesome =o

One difference I've seen between goliath and groundhog is that the ground hog has wheels while the goliath has tracks.

---

Geh, I honestly hope this isn't a foreshadowing of a booster pack :(

[NorthernMonkey]

goliath also looks like it has a small cannon on top, maybe the BF2 APC equivlent

[Cade]

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a teaser preview for what'll be instore in an upcoming BOOSTER PACK for BF2142.

[Chris_Redfield]

Goliath seems to be a heavy close-in support vehicle for troops charging flags/silos. Probably current APC with more firepower and armor, but less speed. I wonder what its funtionality on the field would be?

[BahamutZ3RO]

Omfg Hover Buggies. Watch Your Asses Now. :o

[Micster]

If this is a preview of the next Expansion Pack/Booster Pack I can't wait. :D

[|D|-Max]

http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pbf/84811555.jpg

http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pbf/7805463.jpg

http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pbf/50820598.jpg

http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pbf/66834835.jpg

http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pbf/3884386.jpg

[BahamutZ3RO]

Extending bridges, or launch pads? I don't care, that looks awesome.

[propyl]

interesting... our first 10 dollar mod i guess? I am sure it will drive through walls, studder like the walker, sheilds wont drop like the titans, tip over when turning to hard like the car, explode in water like everything else (that make sense.. water fire, fire water do the math). god forbid they actually fix their existing vehicles first.

[BahamutZ3RO]

tip over when turning to hard like the car

Lmao, I can totally picture that thing rolling down Cerbere Landing on fire with fifteen people trapped inside trying to eject.

[Ecko]

It's either 1) trashed concept art from the original, but recycled for pretty pictures. Or 2) Concept art for a new booster/expansion/patch or 3) just pretty.

[Splinter]

Lets hope it's a FREE!!! booster pack, I think it's a bit early at the moment for Xpacks.

[GLENNYBOY1]

Lets hope it's a FREE!!! booster pack, I think it's a bit early at the moment for Xpacks.

I hope so too Splinter but I think because they're teasing us with in-game advertisements it looks to me like we're going to be parting with cold hard cash,after all that's what advertising does.
A freebie to the community would be a nice gesture and go some way to restoring a little faith.

[s.p.a.w.n]

why not FIX THE DAMN AND ANNOYING BUGS FIRST
implementing new stuff is fine i like it too but more i would like a smooth gameplay and by the way a function that saves my soldier kit layout WOULD BE VERY NICE.

[Vikaman]

Omfg Hover Buggies. Watch Your Asses Now. :o

G0d d@mn, i wanted to say that.

More work for us engineers eh?

[Ecko]

G0d d@mn, i wanted to say that.

More work for us engineers eh?

More like more possibility for us Terrorist's :D
Side ways impacts sound like fun :P

[MandoAdenn]

I'm actually excited. :o

[MIB]

The vehicles I can take or leave. What I'm looking forward to are some new friggin maps! A mere 5 titan maps can get awfully repetative. As for the conquest maps; more than half of them a "city maps" that don't leave much variety to be had. You can't tell me the entirety of WW3 was fought via urban warfare. I would think that the EU made some attempt to stop the PAC before they started knocking on the doors of Berlin, Cerbere, Belgrade, Gibraltar, and other major strongholds.

[Vikaman]

why not FIX THE DAMN AND ANNOYING BUGS FIRST
implementing new stuff is fine i like it too but more i would like a smooth gameplay and by the way a function that saves my soldier kit layout WOULD BE VERY NICE.

Maybe cos they are working on an expansion that they are not able to fix the stuff properly.

[Ecko]

Or perhaps it's because modellers don't code, pretty much all of the game bugs are due to the Code. What's the point leaving the modellers and such sitting around doing nothing when they could be doing some work.

[nutcrackr]

Man those hover jeeps look very cool. I'm thinking the "he is doing his part" ad is for a new map, that location doesn't look familiar to me. 2143 just looks like a happy new year ad ;)

[Cerberus14]

Hmm.. maybe 2143 is when the EU go on the counter offensive. Because almost all the current maps are the PAC attacking EU positions, and what if the picture with the two titan bays could be the EU assaulting a PAC titan Dock.

[<3 aroastchicken]

Lets hope it's a FREE!!! booster pack, I think it's a bit early at the moment for Xpacks.

Nah, I think it's a bit EARLY for Battlefield 2142.

[Jblankster]

http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pbf/3884386.jpg

it says 2143


* cough * booster pack * cough *

[Rick Astley]

If DICE/EA really throw the new vehicles in at the upcoming patch, ill be very happy. DICE/EA is sort of making a story then! Scientists are still developing new vehicles! :shock:

[Flt. Sgt. Powderhound]

Those landing pads look amazing- they look a bit like grounded titans though. A new variant on titan mode. Then again, is it me, but do these look like DICE is going down the star wars route?

[Vikaman]

btw, i think that jeep wont be useful for jihading, cos the hover thing will turn off if you get outta the vehicle, so its a patch for the current game, bye bye to jihaders, if not, 2142 + jihading ftw!

[nutcrackr]

Hover tanks still slide when you bail out of them.

[Vreki]

Hover tanks still slide when you bail out of them.

Oh yeah, bailing from a hovertank on a steep incline = long run to catch Tank again

[Ecko]

Exactly, now think of this, if you induce an explosion on one side (Not a critical explosion) will it slide in the enemy unit? :D

[Vikaman]

Dont think that car will slide enough for a jihad :(

[Ecko]

Aww no good, oh well at least i can still load RDX on the side and strafe into the armour.

[Vikaman]

Very true. (Though Jihading is against the BFROE rules...)

[Ecko]

No it isn't. What gave you that impression?

[Vikaman]

Wait, finding the BFROE thread.

Cos i am under the impression the BF2 ROE = BF2142 ROE.

[Ecko]

In it's current status, it says that admins may choose to enforce a non jihading rule.

[Vikaman]

(d) Making attacks on enemy main bases (flags that cannot be captured), including artillery strikes, vehicle drops to block runways, bombing runs with aircraft or sustained infantry attacks. (Note that specific attacks targeting the enemy commander’s asset buildings are always allowed, even if they are within the enemy main base.)

(e) Using transport helicopters to quickly capture all flags with no attempt to engage the other team (flag hopping).

(f) Using C4 explosives on fast-moving vehicles to destroy other vehicles (C4-ramming)

(g) Ignoring requests from Server Administrators or abusing Server Administrators.

3. RULES AND POLICIES APPLYING TO ALL PLAYERS ON RANKED SERVERS.
The following rules are ones that players are expected to abide by while playing on ranked servers. Any use of third-party programs or game exploits not listed below should be reported through one of the channels listed below.

3.1 Use of Cheats or Hacks

3.1.1 Players may not change (hack) any core games files or effectively change game settin...



http://www.bfroe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171

[Sir. Tasty]

Exactly, now think of this, if you induce an explosion on one side (Not a critical explosion) will it slide in the enemy unit? :D

Maybe but even if it did all you would get was 'mr x was killed' or whatever it says i.e you wont get the points unless your in it.

[Ecko]

Look at the title to that subsection.


2.3.2 Allowed “In-House” Ranked Server Rules:

Server Administrators may implement and enforce rules that result in minor changes to gameplay behaviour or styles as long as these are clearly stated before a player starts playing on a server. These rules typically introduce minor restrictions on how a certain aspect of the game can be used.

[dontsh000t]

Oh yeah, bailing from a hovertank on a steep incline = long run to catch Tank again

dammit no wonder i was killed by a moving, smoking nekomata on Minsk and it said i just died instead of a kill/TK :(


btw: jihading is against BFROE? seriously?

[Ecko]

Maybe but even if it did all you would get was 'mr x was killed' or whatever it says i.e you wont get the points unless your in it.

Yes you would, thats what the RDX on the side is for. You det' once it slams into the tank.

[Vikaman]

My bad:p

[Ecko]

My bad:p

It's ok, you can have cookies now.

[Sir. Tasty]

Yes you would, thats what the RDX on the side is for. You det' once it slams into the tank.

Now that would work nice :P

[Ecko]

Now that would work nice :P

The thing is, would Dice be smart enough to make it slide longer due to it's lower amount of mass. If it slides the same amount as a Nemodia this whole theory will be out of the window. (Already tried it with the Nemodia with no luck)

[Vikaman]

Yes you would, thats what the RDX on the side is for. You det' once it slams into the tank.

He is right, the detonator was made for a reason, unlike C&C Renegade...:mad:

[Vikaman]

The thing is, would Dice be smart enough to make it slide longer due to it's lower amount of mass. If it slides the same amount as a Nemodia this whole theory will be out of the window. (Already tried it with the Nemodia with no luck)

Sorry if this is a double post.

I dont htink Dice coded 'mass' as a variable in their game.

Its probably rate at which something falls, and, the tank never falls, its levitation mechanisim is always on, so jihading can be possible.

[Ecko]

Sliding works, but not if you set off an explosion near it. Which you would expect it to do since it's not be held in place via large amounts of friction cause by ground contact.

[Vikaman]

Exactly, so the theory that mass doesnt exist in 2142 is correct.

Sorry Ecko, i am of to play CoH, will be back to discuss lateR!

[Ecko]

Exactly, so the theory that mass doesnt exist in 2142 is correct.

Touché

Ok see ya man, Maybe i should complete DOW:DC's campaign.

[cc//Ollie90]

It will probably be like the APCs from BF2, in that it will be able to take out a tank :D

[nutcrackr]

The hover FAV would move faster and would slide further than the tank if you bailed, I think it would be fairly similar to the other vehicles.

[james_1991-fight]

God i hope they dont make more fricken booster packs and expansion packs, their money grabbing bastards and will only charge full price for at max 3 new maps and probably about 5 more vehicles, expect £30 to be charged here :)
And if they bring new weapons into it that means the unfortunate people who cant get the booster pack will be at a disadvantage without the new weapons, therefore splitting the battlefield community like Special Forces did to Battlefield 2.

[Vikaman]

The hover FAV would move faster and would slide further than the tank if you bailed, I think it would be fairly similar to the other vehicles.

Valid point my friend, valid point.

But the game doesnt have mass, so, the inertia might be the same...

you never know.

[Recon]

Bahamutz3ro is right, it does lkinda look like the mark 2 of the groundhog.

[l2edl2azor]

The Goliath looks similar to the Leviathon for those of you who are new to the FPS world. Leviathon is a game mode in Unreal Tournament 2004. The objective was to capture "X" amount of CP's then your Goliath/Leviathon would spawn and could be manned by 6 or 8 men and it could base rape and destroy like nobody's business. This may be a similar CTF mode. I notice the unremarkable similarity of our Talon gunship to the UT2004's Raptor.

I certainly hope a game mode comes around like this.

[Armada]

I hope it is not a booster or expansion pack, 50 bucks is already a lot of money for a POC game that is full of bugs and glitches (have you ever tried to walk over the second floor in the central camp in camp gibraltar??? how can a floor be sooooo choppy for gods sake). I wouldn't spend not even 5 more dollars in this game.

[Kraxis]

I'm pretty sure the Hachimoto if it ever joins the game won't be nearly as fast as the FAVs. But it sure will be a great way to get roadkills... I mean the Nekomata is already good at that, a faster more nimble version should wreck havoc among infantry. I'm already in love with it...

The Goliath certainly seems to me heavier, it's name is after all Heavy IFV, so it is likely meant to do some damage (IFV) and it can take a lot of punishment (Heavy). However if it was tougher than a normal APC it would be at least as tough as walkers, and I don't think that is going to happen.

But where is the PAC IFV? And the EU equivalent of the Hachimoto?

[Vikaman]

What does IFV stand for again?

[james_1991-fight]

infantry fighting vehicle i guess

[[dwg]MrFuri0us]

infantry fighting vehicle i guess


Yes sir you are right. The Bradley in the Army is an IFV. It's basically a light armor vehicle that carries troops and designed to support infantry in battle. The US Bradley is equiped with two TOW missles capable of taking out Tanks. I wonder if this Goliath will have anything similar... TV's Maybe:evil:

[Deesies]

The Goliath looks similar to the Leviathon for those of you who are new to the FPS world is a game mode in Unreal Tournament 2004. The objective was to capture "X" amount of CP's then your Goliath/Leviathon would spawn and could be manned by 6 or 8 men and it could base rape and destroy like nobody's business. This may be a similar CTF mode. I notice the unremarkable similarity of our Talon gunship to the UT2004's Raptor.

I certainly hope a game mode comes around like this.

A game mode like that had been planned as far back as before BF2 :P

[l2edl2azor]

A game mode like that had been planned as far back as before BF2 :P
They need to hurry up and bring it on with the next patch then. CTF/Leviathon is the bomb!!!

[Deesies]

Weren't the Leviathans only in onslaught mode?

[Rick Astley]

Leviathan? Are those the little things that have blades on the side?
BTW: Manta FTW!

[Deesies]

http://www.4gamer.net/specials/ut2004/img/05/ph21.jpg

Leviathan :P

[MrChris_CJ]

that thing was mean, but a manta could pancake, im going to reinstall that game tbh :D

[Rick Astley]

Ooooh! That thing! Super Weapon, go! First i used the thing, i was like: WTF? How do i use this thing?

Still the Manta was the best. And does anyone remembers the large map with the two large trucks driving next to eachother in the desert?

[StealthClobber]

Still the Manta was the best. And does anyone remembers the large map with the two large trucks driving next to eachother in the desert?

I loved that map! If you jumped off you'd get killed lol.

[vbl]

Well, if DICE wasn't planning on adding those new vehicles before, they sure as hell better be now that everyone is pumped up :)

[Rick Astley]

Well, if DICE wasn't planning on adding those new vehicles before, they sure as hell better be now that everyone is pumped up :)

Yep, it would be dumb of them, if they didn't put in any vehicles.

[ASnogarD]

As long as its free content, not boosters or expansions.

But, on the other hand more vehicles will mean less infantry action. BF 2 had that problem ...unless you were a sniper in a hidey hole most infantry were free frags till they grabbed a armoured vehicle..especially with the BF 2 aircraft around.

I like the infantry intense battles of BF 2142, and get dissapointed whenever a APC (friendly or foe) arrive at the flashpoint of a intense infantry encounter.

[|D|-Max]

As long as its free content, not boosters or expansions.

But, on the other hand more vehicles will mean less infantry action. BF 2 had that problem ...unless you were a sniper in a hidey hole most infantry were free frags till they grabbed a armoured vehicle..especially with the BF 2 aircraft around.

I like the infantry intense battles of BF 2142, and get dissapointed whenever a APC (friendly or foe) arrive at the flashpoint of a intense infantry encounter.

1942 had no problem and 42 had 40 vehicles,and infantry action was high.

[KBH33]

All I wish is more air vehicles.

I don't really like gunships to be honest.
They should put some fighter planes (*cough*) some futuristic ones

[Vikaman]

With no bombing capabilities i dont mind.

[|D|-Max]

All I wish is more air vehicles.

I don't really like gunships to be honest.
They should put some fighter planes (*cough*) some futuristic ones

and big bombers like a the B17 size:D :D

make the game more like 1942 :D

[Vikaman]

and big bombers like a the B17 size:D :D

make the game more like 1942 :D

that contradicts what i said above you!

[WanderingZephyr]

I will cry if they're planning to balkanize the fledgling community with booster packs and expansion packs so early in the game's thus far troubled life.

...that's all I really have to add.

[|D|-Max]

that contradicts what i said above you!

bombing makes the game fun, there is like 1 AA at every flag so whats so bad about a bomber.

[Deesies]

Nothing provided they aren't disgustingly overpowered as BF2 bombers were.

Considering I have rarely ever seen anyone actually make a kill with the stationary AA (on aircraft) and considering the bugged AA systems, I have my doubts about adding any more aircraft.

[Dorest0rm]

its wierd that no1 thought that those maby be player adds? made by players>?

[l2edl2azor]

Weren't the Leviathans only in onslaught mode?

Yes, Onslaught!!!, I'm sorry I always personally referred to the mode as Leviathon.

[ASnogarD]

bombing makes the game fun, there is like 1 AA at every flag so whats so bad about a bomber.

The bombers in BF 2 made playing a frustrating practise, unless you were the bomber pilot. The bombers would deliver ordinance with realitively little to no danger to themselves and could easily dominate maps, making it dangerous to even ride a tank or other armoured vehicle...hell they would even potshot lone infantry units if they had bombs to spare.

Considering BF 2142's current crop of aircraft a BF 2 style bomber would be unbeatable, moves too fast for the manual lock on AA EMP's and the AA guns do too little damage to down it before its out of range, ground forces would have no chance as the fast mover would deliver fatal amounts of ordanace before the cumbersone vehicles could try take it out (Walker AA has same probs as the stationary AA). I would guess if DICE ever did put in a Bomber it would be a slow mover, and the pilots would ***** it was too slow...or if it was a fast mover everyone else bar the pilots would *****.

[Rick Astley]

Well, i like to see a bomber with only MGs as defensive capabilities, no missiles or rockets against other air vehicles. Make it big like the B17 and slow! But let it drop multiple bombs ( no super bombs from BF2 )
AND NO FREAKIN' LASER GUIDED MISSILES!

[Maj.Damage]

I mean adding vehicles now?? This is illogical, how about we get some new Maps to showcase these new vehicles in. That would make it slightly more interesting an idea. I still think the vehicles we have now provide the best balance for introducing this game to new people and remaining fun for the vets.

I just don't feel vehicles are going to solve our woes at the moment. ;)

[|D|-Max]

Well, i like to see a bomber with only MGs as defensive capabilities, no missiles or rockets against other air vehicles. Make it big like the B17 and slow! But let it drop multiple bombs ( no super bombs from BF2 )
AND NO FREAKIN' LASER GUIDED MISSILES!

its the future there should be laser guided missiles ;)

[simjay]

It's going to be a booster pack you can obtain using money.

EA+FREE doesn't mix.

[Deesies]

I mean adding vehicles now?? This is illogical, how about we get some new Maps to showcase these new vehicles in. That would make it slightly more interesting an idea. I still think the vehicles we have now provide the best balance for introducing this game to new people and remaining fun for the vets.

I just don't feel vehicles are going to solve our woes at the moment. ;)

I don't think anyone actually thought they were adding vehicles to the existing maps.

If they did then lol.

[Chris_Redfield]

Well, i like to see a bomber with only MGs as defensive capabilities, no missiles or rockets against other air vehicles. Make it big like the B17 and slow! But let it drop multiple bombs ( no super bombs from BF2 )
AND NO FREAKIN' LASER GUIDED MISSILES!

Wow, you want a slow, barely moving, high seat capacity flying vehicle with no weapons. Just so you could shoot it down without it firing back at you? Bravo. Someone has had too many bombs landing on his head in his BF2 days.:rolleyes:

[Deesies]

MGs could fire back.

[GunHappyBob]

http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/images/bf2news/shot5.jpg

How about these little buggers? I hope they are fast.

[CarbonFire]

I'd love to see a Type 36 hovercar added to FoB for the PAC. Might actually balance that map out a bit.

Here's hoping DICE/EA learned from their horrible "booster pack" mistake and offers these updates free. Hey, weirder things have happened - just not very often ;)

[Jblankster]

the landing strips are runways


their finally putting jets ingame (secret source)

[Vikaman]

the landing strips are runways


their finally putting jets ingame (secret source)

and the source is?

[lt.wolfowitz]

his best friend, whose uncle's nephew's best friend works for DICE :p

[Kraxis]

his best friend, whose uncle's nephew's best friend works for DICE :p

Do I detect a little joke on your behalf?

I could technically interpret that line to mean him....:D

[MandoAdenn]

his best friend, whose uncle's nephew's best friend works for DICE :p

I tend to take those seriously, last time I didn't listen to someone with an inside source the entire MMO I used to play changed for the worse a week after.

[brian_FL1]

http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pbf/66834835.jpg

Just a guess but they kinda look like Titan loading docks or something. The shape the gap looks like it could accomodate the shape of the back of the titan.

[Jblankster]

trust me, their in the new map to :D

[Jblankster]

no those are runways just so u know

[Rick Astley]

Maybe a jet runway like the jet in BF1942: Secret Weapons?
But it will be a Titan runway, i guess :)

[Vreki]

I tend to take those seriously, last time I didn't listen to someone with an inside source the entire MMO I used to play changed for the worse a week after.

Would that be SWG?

I hope they are very,very careful about adding new vehicles and weapon. IMHO this is the best balanced game I have played yet, but it could easily be ruined if they introduced a pwn-weapon to sell a boosterpack.

Of course the damage could be contained to the new maps, but remember what they did with BF2 and SF.

[Chris_Redfield]

MGs could fire back.

Uhm, no. Whats the use of a slow, immobile floating target that everyone can shoot down then? Whats its purpose if it cannot deliver the impact to the field proportionally to its disadvantages? You just want a vehicle you can shoot down without much effort. MGs? Who are you kidding?

As for jblankster, if thats the guy from TBF2, then its probably crack talking. I dont think jets will ever be in BF2142, too many people would piss their pants and DICE will frack this game even more up to cater to the whiners.

[nutcrackr]

no those are runways just so u know
How do you know that?

[Vreki]

Uhm, no. Whats the use of a slow, immobile floating target that everyone can shoot down then? Whats its purpose if it cannot deliver the impact to the field proportionally to its disadvantages? You just want a vehicle you can shoot down without much effort. MGs? Who are you kidding?
.

I think the bombs would provide the impact?
The machine guns were just for selfdefence, so basically it is a WWII bomber.

In theory it would be nice to have the artillery replace by a strategic bomber, but I think it would be too difficult to balance.

How do you handle repairs and rearming, and how about the crew always bailing so nobody get a point for shooting it down?
How fast and how heavily armoured?
Should there be new AA weapons?

There are too may variables

[Vreki]

In fact, why don't we just steal another vehicle from Planetside, the Liberator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicles_in_PlanetSide

Maybe this is the game for you Chris? I hear you can play it for free now, and there seems to be a lot of aircrafts.

[Maj.Damage]

Vehicles are good to use strategically, I don't know if its the selling point of 2142. I still agree more is better, I just think sharing ideas on maps/scenarios might be a good idea too.

Well lots of great ideas in here, I hope they use community feedback in their future development, that's what makes a great game absolutely amazing!

[[dwg]MrFuri0us]

Well, as a BF2 Jet Pilot, I'd LOVE to get my wings back:evil:. Look out noobs!!!:laugh:

[Buttoneer]

Maybe a nice freebie map & vehicle pack to help stop people running away to ET:Quake Wars?

I can smell the EA fear from here.

[Kraxis]

MrFuri0us;217058']Well, as a BF2 Jet Pilot, I'd LOVE to get my wings back:evil:. Look out noobs!!!:laugh:

Noobs, vets, experts... whoever really. That's my experience with jetwhores.

[[dwg]MrFuri0us]

Noobs, vets, experts... whoever really. That's my experience with jetwhores.

QFT!!!:nod:

When my bombs fall from the sky... Noobs, vets, and experts die!

[Kraxis]

Exactly... and that is why they are not fun for anyone but the pilot.

A lot of maps were fun for the two-four pilots and lousy for the rest. Hence, no thanks to jets.

[siiix]

Lets hope it's a FREE!!! booster pack, I think it's a bit early at the moment for Xpacks.

i would bet its not free, and i only bet when i'm absolutely sure
they have to me in works already final phase, one more month and it will be the correct time for a booster or expansion

btw, i think that jeep wont be useful for jihading, cos the hover thing will turn off if you get outta the vehicle, so its a patch for the current game, bye bye to jihaders, if not, 2142 + jihading ftw!

i don't know why you think that the hover tank works for jihading as well besides most of the time i blow my self up in the process anyhow so it don't mater if the vehicle keeps flying or stops at the spot of exit

so far i remember the hover tank actually moves farther then the normal-car when jumping out.. so a hover car probably is the same

[zer4tul]

I wouldn't mind some other air vehicles that carried bombs. To balance it out, they would have to move very very slowly

[Maj.Damage]

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And I would say HACHIMOTO FTW! Those hover bikes look badass! :cool:

[siiix]

As long as its free content, not boosters or expansions.

But, on the other hand more vehicles will mean less infantry action. BF 2 had that problem ...unless you were a sniper in a hidey hole most infantry were free frags till they grabbed a armoured vehicle..especially with the BF 2 aircraft around.

I like the infantry intense battles of BF 2142, and get dissapointed whenever a APC (friendly or foe) arrive at the flashpoint of a intense infantry encounter.

thats why EA should put back the infantry only option
2142 sux donkey for people like me because of its dominating infantry

with the infantry only option both our people could have fun with the game not just your kind

i so hate infantry based play i think about every day putting my 2142 on ebay

[SonicPixel]

Maybe a nice freebie map & vehicle pack to help stop people running away to ET:Quake Wars?

I can smell the EA fear from here.


I hope ET:QW rocks! EA should be quaking...

[Maj.Damage]

i so hate infantry based play i think about every day putting my 2142 on ebay

You can't legally sell the license, you've already used it. You don't like infantry based combat.... and we're in the middle of a damned battlefield??!!? :confused:

[siiix]

if not ET:QW there will be dozens of others like it this year, i actually believe QW will by far not the best released game in 2007

crysis, huxley, frontlines: fuel of war, army of 2

i think every one of those is better the ET:QW
and there is still a LOT more games like them in 2007

You can't legally sell the license, you've already used it. You don't like infantry based combat.... and we're in the middle of a damned battlefield??!!? :confused:

dude if anyone would follow whats the law supposed to be : )
i sold planty of "used games/cd-keys/accounts" in my life,
and not planing to stop anytime soon ; )
what they gona do trace my IP and shoot me on site ?? LOL

and about the infantry : ever heard of "vehicle whores" in bf2 ? well i'm one and damn proud of it : ) if i would like infantry i play graw witch has far better graphic and physics then bf games the ONLY reason i even buyed all BF releases in the past few years is the vehicle combat

i'm one of those guys that if i end up in a server where there is no transportation/vehicles and i would have to WALK or wait to long - i log out and look for a server where the 1st thing i will do is jump in to a vehicle, and i will newer leave this vehicle unless its damages then i run so fast i can to get in to the next one

if i'm on foot and someone shoots at me, i RUN like hell
so as you can see infantry play is not my ding : )

[Vreki]

if not ET:QW there will be dozens of others like it this year, i actually believe QW will by far not the best released game in 2007

crysis, huxley, frontlines: fuel of war, army of 2

i think every one of those is better the ET:QW
and there is still a LOT more games like them in 2007


I just took a look at huxley (http://www.huxleygame.com), and I don't really see the comparison to BF. It is a MMORPG, which usually means subscriptions, huge time requirements and low levels being defenceless against high levels. I am certainly not interested, and I imagine that the average BF2142 player wont be either.

Frontlines (http://www.frontlineswar.com) could be interesting, but its not really sci-fi, just tomorrows battlefield. And I wouldnt be surprised to see it delayed until 2008, the website is till in the "promises" state. The IGN review is pretty devoid of content too.

As for Crysis, I keep hearing how awesome it will look, but that is not going to be the case on my PC running XP. I cant find much info on the gameplay, so I am not quick to call it superior to the BF series.

Army of 2 appears to be a two player FPS, so it doesn't appear to be a direct competitor to BF either.

So dozens of others only seem to apply if consider games the same if you can shoot stuff.

What games are coming that offer a tactical semi-realistic teambased gameplay for 30+ players in a sci-fi setting? And with realistic release dates in the first half of 2007?

Edit to add: And with vehicles too, we need vehicles!

[Maj.Damage]

dude if anyone would follow whats the law supposed to be : )
i sold planty of "used games/cd-keys/accounts" in my life,
and not planing to stop anytime soon ; )
what they gona do trace my IP and shoot me on site ?? LOL

No they wont shoot you, we aren't run by a regime thankfully. :laugh:

[Deesies]

everyone is run by a regime >.>

[SonicPixel]

everyone is run by a regime >.>

Point awarded: Deesies! Stop by for a cookie.

[siiix]

everyone is run by a regime >.>

regime or not i don't let my self terrorize by some t&c's : ) i do as i feel fit

as for game ... i don't think it has to be future based .. the main think is squad/team play and vehicles, if its ww2, current or future is not that important

and as for MMO that a question of $'s and how well the game play is made.. maybe higher levels are not as much over powered like on other MMO's.. things can change, we wont know that till its actually released or demo

[Vreki]

regime or not i don't let my self terrorize by some t&c's : ) i do as i feel fit

as for game ... i don't think it has to be future based .. the main think is squad/team play and vehicles, if its ww2, current or future is not that important

and as for MMO that a question of $'s and how well the game play is made.. maybe higher levels are not as much over powered like on other MMO's.. things can change, we wont know that till its actually released or demo

I prefer the SCI-FI setting, WWII and present time has been overdone, and the SCI-FI setting allows for new and creative designs.

As for MMO, I think the idea of level based powers goes fundamentally against the "even playingfield" idea of most FPS.
And I dont want to have to spend Massive Amounts of time (again), I want a game where I can log on to 30 minutes of action, and logoff whenever I feel like without losing something.

To me, Huxley looks more like SWG than BF, they even have you fighting monsters to level up.

No, we don´t know yet, but all previous MMO I know of has suffered from this.

[<3 aroastchicken]

I prefer the SCI-FI setting, WWII and present time has been overdone, and the SCI-FI setting allows for new and creative designs.

As for MMO, I think the idea of level based powers goes fundamentally against the "even playingfield" idea of most FPS.
And I dont want to have to spend Massive Amounts of time (again), I want a game where I can log on to 30 minutes of action, and logoff whenever I feel like without losing something.

To me, Huxley looks more like SWG than BF, they even have you fighting monsters to level up.

No, we don´t know yet, but all previous MMO I know of has suffered from this.

There's an MMO (FREE!) called Gunz Online. It's fairly rudimentary (its free, and its from a Korean developer, so Engrish is abound) but can be quite fun. Basically what you do is someone hosts a game and everyone joins, game structure is similar to counterstrike or just an all-out deathmatch with respawning (depending on what kind of gametype the host picks). You get experience for killing people as well as Gold at the end of the round which you can use to purchase new weapons, armour, etc. I think somethign similar to this may work well for a BF game.

As for the whole 'even playing field', the way that Gunz does it is via level-limited realms. That's OK, I suppose, although often you do get level 1 vs. level 10. This is compensated for by weighted experience - you get much more exp if you kill a level 10 as a level 1 character than the other way around. This model might work for Battlefield.

[BahamutZ3RO]

Gunz Online is HELL on my WASD fingers.

[Deesies]

ahh gunz. That's a fun game until the macro kiddies come on :(

[Vikaman]

Gunz killed my keyboard. The wall flipping specially. Did so much of that.

Wall flippin + katana at level 2! ftw!

[Deesies]

Heh, I remember when the game first came out and everyone was laming that katana uppercut thingy.

Always enjoyed the surprise they showed over chat when I recovered in the air and blasted them with a shotgun :P

[Vikaman]

But no doubt about it, its a good game. Loved it, till level 2, until i kept getting that wavey thing abve people's saying that my connection was bad :(...