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SirJackCrispy
01-18-2007, 04:22 PM
I don't care what other people say, the new booster looks kick ***. I just want to know if you can use any of the new unlocks on a map that isn't from the new booster, this would be annoying. Yes it would be unfair for other people, but i don't care, I just know cool it would be to use some new weapons.

Whiteplague
01-18-2007, 04:23 PM
i agree 100%

id love to know what those unlocks are going to be

oh and yeah they will be 100% usable in the regular game on the original maps

Rick Astley
01-18-2007, 04:29 PM
Too bad. Some guys will have uber advantage to the noobs

Strike1.Tango
01-18-2007, 04:33 PM
Too bad. Some guys will have uber advantage to the noobs

Did someone say the new weapons would be overpowered? I really hope they wont :confused:

Vreki
01-18-2007, 04:33 PM
* Increased persistence. Ten new rewards and ten new unlock items at the top of the unlocks trees, available also on core game maps, take persistence to new levels. Unlock credits earned in the booster pack can also be used in the core game.


I just hope the new unlocks doesn't ruin the great balance this game has now.

Minmaster
01-18-2007, 04:35 PM
refurbished ganz
stabilized baur
remanufactured SAWW
tintless zeller

these are the new unlocks :)

Elinombrable
01-18-2007, 04:53 PM
10 new unlocks doesnt means 10 new weapons...we have to wait for getting more information. Anyway..i think a new patch will be relased with the booster pack to allow the normal players playing with the booster pack owners on the same server (they need the new unlocks skins,effects o whatever they use).

Trippet
01-18-2007, 05:01 PM
Anyway..i think a new patch will be relased with the booster pack to allow the normal players playing with the booster pack owners on the same server (they need the new unlocks skins,effects o whatever they use).

Let's certainly hope so - that should minimize playerbase fragmentation. "You can play the new maps with everyone else, but you can't use the new toys unless you fork over your $10." Sounds like a great middle ground.

DISCLAIMER: I'll be forking over my Alexander Hamilton portrait the first day it hits Best Buy (no EA Downloader thankyouverymuch)

Snooze
01-18-2007, 05:03 PM
Most likely it will be 1 for each column in each kit a new general and a new squad unlock.

Also considering they mention new pod mentions I think either the general or Squad unlock have to do with enhancing pod controls.

I do hope that the SL unlock will be the ability to call vehicle airdrops in large squads which is in serious need.

Vreki
01-18-2007, 05:04 PM
Let's certainly hope so - that should minimize playerbase fragmentation. "You can play the new maps with everyone else, but you can't use the new toys unless you fork over your $10." Sounds like a great middle ground.

DISCLAIMER: I'll be forking over my Alexander Hamilton portrait the first day it hits Best Buy (no EA Downloader thankyouverymuch)

I don't think he meant that the maps would be shared, just that the equipment usable in the core game will have to be included in a patch.

FPS[VT_NERD]
01-18-2007, 05:06 PM
Let's certainly hope so - that should minimize playerbase fragmentation. "You can play the new maps with everyone else, but you can't use the new toys unless you fork over your $10." Sounds like a great middle ground.

DISCLAIMER: I'll be forking over my Alexander Hamilton portrait the first day it hits Best Buy (no EA Downloader thankyouverymuch)

No, that's not how it'll work at all. If you don't buy the booster you won't be able to play the new maps BUT if you pick up another guy's kit who does have the new unlocks and is playing on one of the regular maps you'll be able to use them b/c they will release a patch to introduce the new content into the game. I'm basing this off of how they did EF and AF for BF2 but they could always do things differently this time around.

kerosene31
01-18-2007, 05:07 PM
Boosters are great... if people actually buy them. Armored Fury was a ton of fun in bf2 (I hate vehicle maps, and even I loved it), but you go online, and nobody plays...

All you hear is people moaning about a $10 booster while they are playing games on their PC that cost thousands...

Elinombrable
01-18-2007, 05:09 PM
Most of the people didnt buy the boosters because they were avaliable through EA downloader only...there are rumours about prepaid cards this time...that would high increase the number of people who buy it.

FPS[VT_NERD]
01-18-2007, 05:13 PM
Boosters are great... if people actually buy them. Armored Fury was a ton of fun in bf2 (I hate vehicle maps, and even I loved it), but you go online, and nobody plays...

All you hear is people moaning about a $10 booster while they are playing games on their PC that cost thousands...

For many people it's not the money, it's the principle of giving them more money when 2142 is not even finished yet.


alt+tab doesn't work for many people
servers crash at least once every 24 hours on average
titan mode introduces graphical lag for many people
and so on....


I haven't made up my mind yet, but I seriously doubt if I will run a server supporting this booster pack until the outstanding issues that have plauged the game since release are resolved. It sounds like it'll be cool, but cool doesn't get rid of CTD's and server crashes so I'm not buying.

The other thing is EA Link is a horrible piece of @%^#!!!!!! If they only release it for download and not in stores then I will never buy it.

Snooze
01-18-2007, 05:13 PM
I think most people didn't by them because you could carry nothing over to vanilla BF2. On top of that EAD was a cryptic thing when people really only knew and trusted STEAM for online purchases. Though I still think they should discount the downloads like steam does.

JoinTSoldieR
01-18-2007, 05:13 PM
booster packs..... i think ist another ******** like tat thing that you could buy an unlock weapon and a rank... fix the hole game first and just then do a booster pack.

Kalo
01-18-2007, 05:16 PM
I love the idea of having the edge on ea haters.

{uZa}10K
01-18-2007, 05:22 PM
howabout a Pilum round that fixes vehicles? then I wouldnt have to get runned over so much trying to repair walker-noobs.

kerosene31
01-18-2007, 05:31 PM
For many people it's not the money, it's the principle of giving them more money when 2142 is not even finished yet.


I understand the frustrations, I've been playing BF games since the 1942 demo (as many others have).

Then all the bf2 people run out and buy 2142 when it comes out, but then are surprised when there are bugs. Why does a $10-15 booster all of a sudden put people over the top?

Dangerdog
01-18-2007, 05:37 PM
I hope there's a silenced pistol in there somewhere.

The_Eliminator
01-18-2007, 05:38 PM
Im not sure whether i will buy it yet, yes the new mode sounds cool and the maps but people mainly buyit for the weapons. I know we dont know what they are yet but i remember before BF2142 was released that everyone said that they were going support and going for the ganz straight away, look how that ended up. I will buy it, but i will wait for reviews of weapons and so on before i go and do anything stupid.

Talking about unlocks, do we know if these new unlocks are going to have to be earnt through new unlocks or will we get them unlocked anyway if we have unlocked the top of the tree?

Revoluti0n
01-18-2007, 05:46 PM
Boosters are great... if people actually buy them. Armored Fury was a ton of fun in bf2 (I hate vehicle maps, and even I loved it), but you go online, and nobody plays...

All you hear is people moaning about a $10 booster while they are playing games on their PC that cost thousands...

Yea, they are great if they are actually worth the content. I personally do not care of it's $10 or $50. I would personally rather pay $50 and get 10 new maps.
The only thing "booster" packs are good for is alienating the community and putting a great game into an early grave. Expansions like Special Forces are a hell of a lot better investment in gameplay.

Badboris_uk
01-18-2007, 05:52 PM
I liked special forces... in fact, since that came out, I payed that almost exclusively over BF2142. I didn't get armoured fury or the other one because I couldn't be arsed to get EA downloader.

they had all the cool toys in special forces.... ziplines, gas grenades - it was really rather cool in fact. I hated the way the British forces used Abrams tanks and humvees though... WTF?

fshy94
01-18-2007, 05:54 PM
howabout a Pilum round that fixes vehicles? then I wouldnt have to get runned over so much trying to repair walker-noobs.

Like the link gun in UT? I like it...

ThePhoniex
01-18-2007, 06:03 PM
i just want extra grenades as another unlock:)

DunNa
01-18-2007, 06:19 PM
i just want extra grenades as another unlock:)

lol?

So basicly each tree is getting something new... With all this crap to throw together and what not will they be adding a way to make a "favorites" where I can just click "favorites one" and load up my "spec ops" config or hit "favorites two" and load up my "medic".

Oh and how about you make spawns ON the squad leader count as beacon spawns for the SL badges and such.... that would be nice for all those drone users out there :mad:

Kalo
01-18-2007, 06:24 PM
If they have a new class the unlocks will make sense, other wise ???

I dont mind spending 10 dollars i aint boy cotting anything :\...

jnick
01-18-2007, 06:25 PM
* Increased persistence. Ten new rewards and ten new unlock items at the top of the unlocks trees, available also on core game maps, take persistence to new levels. Unlock credits earned in the booster pack can also be used in the core game.

Being the unlocks are at the TOP of each tree - My gut says that they ARE guns . . . at least for the kits.

2 new guns each kit = 8 unlocks + 1 new player ability + 1 new SL unlock = 10 unlocks :)

Kalo
01-18-2007, 06:27 PM
That makes alot of sense actually...

DunNa
01-18-2007, 06:36 PM
Heaven forbid something makes sense :\

I just hope the SL one is something decent aka a drone thats not completely stupid like the acciptor.

LeadS
01-18-2007, 06:38 PM
Assuming this booster pack is not free and it's unlocks carry to basic BF2142 game, these are my thoughts of it:
- EA's solution to cheaters - start to sell their own unfair advantage.
- Giving edge to those who pay more feels like they are trying to force everyone to pay. I don't like beeing forced, so I won't comply.
- When I bought BF2142 I thought it would be good and nicely finished game with long lifetime. It's nothing of those, people are getting bored to it, me included, it was and still is unforgivable bugged and its lifetime as popular fps is most likely quite short as it can't seem to hold players. It has never been the game I thought it would be, so it's time to cut my loses and not throw any more money to it.
- I've seen quality of BF2142, I have no illusions about quality of their booster pack, so why bother? I'll save my booster pack money for next game.

Just to remind what we have gone through with this game: bugs, adds in full price game, stats wiped by mistake, faulty patches, insane lag, connection problems and more bugs. Now, maybe, if this booster pack were exceptionaly good and free, they could buy back trust of the gamers, but somehow I belive they will take the shortest path to revenue and just sell "skill" to kids.

Kalo
01-18-2007, 06:42 PM
Use the accipter with your auto turret, it shines like a diamond.

I dont believe its selling "skill" i believe they listened to people who said it was an empty game with a lack of content, Such as balanced vehicle selection, Lol...

Cant wait for the hachiMoto to "balance" out the vehicles =D.

angelofdeath3131
01-18-2007, 06:55 PM
Your all way to gullable. Booster Packs=Rip off. No matter how you look at it. If they charge for this its a rip. The ingame adds should easily pay for this patch size update.

And to all you who write the flaws in boosters, I salute you. I salute you for many many reasons. You see how this franchise is going down hill. So many people turn a blind eye towards the mastakes made in the company and that is why games are not fully improving.

ASnogarD
01-18-2007, 06:57 PM
If 'they' listened to people who said it was a empty game, and actually decided to add some vehicles..isnt it a cheek to 'fix' thier game...with a pay to apply patch ?

First its full price for a full featured mod, and now its pay to apply patches... nect we will have pay / month to play EA games...MMO's or otherwise

The_Eliminator
01-18-2007, 07:24 PM
Then why dont we spread a word and try to make sure that no one on the planet buys this booster pack AND I MEAN NO ONE, if it gets around then EA will start to lose moeny and give us the booster for free in a patch and everyone is a little more happy.

Hell yes its gonna be quite a job to spread this word from country to country and forum to forum but it can be done and what better is community are screwing over EA for once!

Styreta
01-18-2007, 07:29 PM
Awww damnit.... I finally have everything field upgradeable, now il have to get 7 more ranks @ 3k points per, SWELL.... lol

The_Eliminator
01-18-2007, 07:29 PM
Awww damnit.... I finally have everything field upgradeable, now il have to get 7 more ranks @ 3k points per, SWELL.... lol

we dont know this for sure, it may be like SF where we get the free unlcoks for every rank past a certain level.

angelofdeath3131
01-18-2007, 07:37 PM
Then why dont we spread a word and try to make sure that no one on the planet buys this booster pack AND I MEAN NO ONE, if it gets around then EA will start to lose moeny and give us the booster for free in a patch and everyone is a little more happy.

Hell yes its gonna be quite a job to spread this word from country to country and forum to forum but it can be done and what better is community are screwing over EA for once!


If people would do what you typed it really would work. Its just hard to get people to work together in this day in time even when it is for there own benifit. To many people turn a blind eye towards this kind of thing. This type of thing is what changes how future games are created and sold. And if people dont start wising up then its going to get worse. I'm truely disapointed in the EA company and in the people who support the packs. It doesnt look like a $10/20 buck booster pack could do alot of damage to the gaming world but it really does. Its just like gas prices. Look how they started. They slowly raised and gave us less, with faulty excuses. And to many people gave a blind eye. THen before you knew it the prices were outragous. By then it was really to late. It took months for our gas prices to come back to a decent price although itll never be the same. And that represents all big companies. They stragetise to come up with sceems all the time to get money from us consumers. They promise big changes for small prices to sucker in the weak. And it is so sad because people know its happening but dont do anything about it. Ehhh, Screw it. Im outa here. pissed off now. later.

jackal22
01-18-2007, 07:39 PM
im going to have fun ramming and shooting the crap out of the new uber expansion nubs then jacking their guns and going on a rampage.

all for a price of £0.00

The_Eliminator
01-18-2007, 07:40 PM
Then Everyone must spread the word and have this in their sig:

"Worldwide pact between the BF community, DONT BUY THE BP Pack, that way we get it for free :)"

The_Eliminator
01-18-2007, 07:41 PM
im going to have fun ramming and shooting the crap out of the new uber expansion nubs then jacking their guns and going on a rampage.

all for a price of £0.00

You get free Internet connection H4XOMG11!!!!111!!!!

fshy94
01-18-2007, 07:42 PM
Then Everyone must spread the word and have this in their sig:

"Worldwide pact between the BF community, DONT BUY THE BP Pack, that way we get it for free :)"

I usually don't put this kind of stuff in my sig, but this warrants it.

dread
01-18-2007, 07:53 PM
More official infos + screenshot (http://www.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield/bf/BF2142_News_011807.aspx) (link)

jnick
01-18-2007, 08:20 PM
Thanks for the heads up Dread

kerosene31
01-18-2007, 08:21 PM
Then why dont we spread a word and try to make sure that no one on the planet buys this booster pack AND I MEAN NO ONE, if it gets around then EA will start to lose moeny and give us the booster for free in a patch and everyone is a little more happy.


This won't work with boosters. Everyone needed to do this with the full 2142 game to make any difference. This gets back to my big question: why take a stand at the booster packs?

Sorry, but anyone who played bf2 (and earlier) and expected anything different is living in a fantasy world...

I understand why people are mad, but I fully expected EA to add expansions to an unfinished game. If this takes you by surprise then you need to open your eyes.

All not buying the booster does is splinter the community... a boycott by some will do nothing to put a dent in EA's armor.

Kraxis
01-18-2007, 08:26 PM
That is a regular APC... I wonder what happened to the infantrybased combat. I thought it was about the Hachi and the Golly, doing it for vehicles. I mean the APC seems to be somewhat outdated by the Golly as a mobile attackstation.

fshy94
01-18-2007, 08:26 PM
This won't work with boosters. Everyone needed to do this with the full 2142 game to make any difference. This gets back to my big question: why take a stand at the booster packs?

Sorry, but anyone who played bf2 (and earlier) and expected anything different is living in a fantasy world...

I understand why people are mad, but I fully expected EA to add expansions to an unfinished game. If this takes you by surprise then you need to open your eyes.

All not buying the booster does is splinter the community... a boycott by some will do nothing to put a dent in EA's armor.



Simple: we like the main game(at least I do). I personally would be happy as a clam if they didn't even feel the need to expand anything, but just fixed a few of the bugs. Don't get me wrong, I would love more stuff, but...what was the ad revenue for? What's up with less and less free content. I would also be happy if they released some free rubbish at the same time as the booster. Heck, I'll boycott it if only to make SURE the booster dies fast, and whoever buys it is under some weird illusion that the booster will live longer than BF2 boosters. Or just bought it for Lan/singleplayer, which is then their own stuff, and has no care for the splinter in the community. I just don't understand why we keep getting less and less maps.

Oh, and I never played BF2, so I didn't know what to expect.

ThePhoniex
01-18-2007, 08:40 PM
we dont know this for sure, it may be like SF where we get the free unlcoks for every rank past a certain level.

i hope they adjust the ranks so there are not thousands of brig generals out there anymore..

that or make the unlocks in this game tied to multi-hours played badges/medals/pins/ribbons

mjrstiffie
01-18-2007, 10:26 PM
Adding more ranks to me just says EA screwed up on the ranks.

There's people that made Brigadier General in less then a month, far to easy. It should have took a lot longer to obtain the higher ranks like Brigadier General or Major General.

MachineMadness
01-18-2007, 11:23 PM
OK here goes

Sniper side of recon> a sniper rifle like the L96A1, deadly accurate, more accurate then the other sniper rifles, but less dammage

Spec ops side of Recon> a better gun than the lambert, something that fires bullets not marshmellows, and a tad more accurate

Assualt, assualt side> maybe a flash nade or somthing

Assualt,Medic> blank, i have nothing

Engineer, philm side> maybe an auto shottie

Engineer, AA side> upgrade SMG

Support ganz> MG that fires 3 shot burst

Support shootie> sensor that placed on ground and anyone walks near gives a beep, saw in a thread about imagineable unlocks

SL> drone and accipter in 1

General> a sprint that makes you go back to how it was in BF2

DrMod
01-19-2007, 12:34 AM
cool unlock ideas. im getting the booster now matter how much just for no veihcles

VTEC
01-19-2007, 02:08 AM
For those of us that already have every 2142 unlock, will we get an unlock in the booster pack for every rank we have above Brig General?

Kalo
01-19-2007, 02:10 AM
Maybe.

RavenRealms
01-19-2007, 03:06 AM
Then why dont we spread a word and try to make sure that no one on the planet buys this booster pack AND I MEAN NO ONE, if it gets around then EA will start to lose moeny and give us the booster for free in a patch and everyone is a little more happy.

Hell yes its gonna be quite a job to spread this word from country to country and forum to forum but it can be done and what better is community are screwing over EA for once!

Good luck with that ;)

I can predict it's outcome: Failure.

jnick
01-19-2007, 03:12 AM
OK here goes

Assualt, assualt side> maybe a flash nade or somthing

Support shootie> sensor that placed on ground and anyone walks near gives a beep, saw in a thread about imagineable unlocks


No and no.

Dibbly
01-19-2007, 03:18 AM
Engineers DReam


Deployable Enginneer drone
How about that then WHHOoooo

Bring it on Shmokin LOL:D :rock:

Kalo
01-19-2007, 03:33 AM
For all we know they originally included it and couldnt put it in due to time constraints and are doing this out of theyre good will, DICE of course.

RYKUU
01-19-2007, 04:20 AM
refurbished ganz
stabilized baur
remanufactured SAWW
tintless zeller



now all we got to do is wait

Vreki
01-19-2007, 05:19 AM
OK here goes

Sniper side of recon> a sniper rifle like the L96A1, deadly accurate, more accurate then the other sniper rifles, but less dammage

Spec ops side of Recon> a better gun than the lambert, something that fires bullets not marshmellows, and a tad more accurate

Assualt, assualt side> maybe a flash nade or somthing

Assualt,Medic> blank, i have nothing

Engineer, philm side> maybe an auto shottie

Engineer, AA side> upgrade SMG

Support ganz> MG that fires 3 shot burst

Support shootie> sensor that placed on ground and anyone walks near gives a beep, saw in a thread about imagineable unlocks

SL> drone and accipter in 1

General> a sprint that makes you go back to how it was in BF2

Recon: A shaped charge that only damages what it is placed upon.

Engineer: A deployable repair hub

Support: A deployable HMG

Assault: Armour plates, extra armour but reduces available sprint.

Personal: Larger clip for primary weapon

SL: Support drone, works like a mobile supply drop

fshy94
01-19-2007, 05:27 AM
Good luck with that ;)

I can predict it's outcome: Failure.

I agree. But knowledge never stopped me. Which is why my KDR is 0.8 . Knowledge never stopped me from kamikazeing into a corridor.

TB-303
01-19-2007, 08:38 AM
I don't care what other people say, the new booster looks kick ***. I just want to know if you can use any of the new unlocks on a map that isn't from the new booster, this would be annoying. Yes it would be unfair for other people, but i don't care, I just know cool it would be to use some new weapons.

You'll care when everyone buggers off and there's fekk all servers to play on. If the unlocks are fair and balanced, well, we'll wait and see...

However, if it ends up like BF2 with everyone playing Spec-Op or Sniper, it will turn into another snooze-fest...

Elinombrable
01-19-2007, 08:54 AM
All the booster pack unlocks will be avaliable for using on normal maps with people without booster pack. This have been already told.

Trippet
01-19-2007, 01:44 PM
Recon: A shaped charge that only damages what it is placed upon.

Genius!!! Seconded.

Dr.Saboteur
01-19-2007, 02:09 PM
I wonder if they will bring back zip lines and teargas launchers or something similar? Also, if SF is anything to go by, I wonder if ALL of the 10 unlocks will be available in the core game or only SOME of the unlocks.

Elinombrable
01-19-2007, 02:11 PM
All of the 10 unlocks will be avaliable if you take them from the floor but you wont be able to unlock them if you dont have the booster.

ThirtyOughtSix
01-20-2007, 12:57 AM
I don't care what other people say, the new booster looks kick ***. I just want to know if you can use any of the new unlocks on a map that isn't from the new booster, this would be annoying. Yes it would be unfair for other people, but i don't care, I just know cool it would be to use some new weapons.

Yes you can use the unlocks on ALL MAPS. SO can everyone else. Only difference is you can unlock them perminately... everyone else without the booster can only jack them off your dead body or unlock them as field upgrades.

ThirtyOughtSix
01-20-2007, 12:59 AM
Awww damnit.... I finally have everything field upgradeable, now il have to get 7 more ranks @ 3k points per, SWELL.... lol

You don't. The new unlocks are given to you by getting new badges. It's the only way. Has nothing to do with rank.

Whiteplague
01-20-2007, 01:05 AM
for people without the booster they WILL NOT be able to unlock the items PERMANENTLY you however WILL BE ABLE to get them as field upgrades

mutantpoo
01-20-2007, 01:47 AM
If they don't have new weapon unlocks I think sales will not nearly what they thin k they will be at least for a long time.

nosoupforyou
01-20-2007, 05:33 PM
recon should get a silencer uprgrade.. that would actually be quite a nice unlock, works on sniper, lambert and pistol.

Rick Astley
01-20-2007, 05:36 PM
recon should get a silencer uprgrade.. that would actually be quite a nice unlock, works on sniper, lambert and pistol.
I don't care about silencers, i never used them in BF2. I just want a P90, it was the best gun for me in BF2!