View Full Version : Can Dice Justify This BP Costing £15!!
Jaycensolo
01-20-2007, 10:05 AM
I was looking on play.com at their many pc games and found this:
http://play.com/Games/PC/4-/3305647/Battlefield_2142_Northern_Strike/Product.html
I could not believe that Dice/EA was charging more than double of a normal BP for this one. And if you look at more closely it says it should have cost £20 which some people paid for the full game of 2142.
Surely the BP should be cheeper with the money they get from adverts plus who can it more expensive than a BF2 booster pack.
james_1991-fight
01-20-2007, 10:08 AM
I hated dice anyway but this... oh and i hate EA :) They are money grabbing bastards and dont care about taking more time on a game.
MouseNo4
01-20-2007, 10:14 AM
What is that in AUD?
I thought the booster could only be downloaded via EA Link.
nutcrackr
01-20-2007, 10:19 AM
Northern Strike is meant to be EA Link exclusive
Sir. Tasty
01-20-2007, 10:21 AM
Meh it looks like less content that the bf2 ones...and for more money ? thats a joke..
Jaycensolo
01-20-2007, 10:22 AM
It is:
USD = 29.64
AUD = 37.55
EUR = 22.86
But that is with saving £5 it should have cost £20 which is :
USD = 39.52
AUD = 50.07
EUR = 30.48
To me that too much for a BP.
Sir. Tasty
01-20-2007, 10:24 AM
Likewise...that is far far to much .
Shask
01-20-2007, 10:24 AM
w00t for less content --> more cost!
Why would anyone buy this game? Do the type of people who buy this know the value for money you get off companies like EA compared to companies like Blizzard/Valve?
Rick Astley
01-20-2007, 10:24 AM
Fake. It's EA Link only!
Vreki
01-20-2007, 10:50 AM
Fake. It's EA Link only!
We don't really know that, do we?
I don't think I have seen "EA Link" only on any of the official info?
But the price seems rather steep.
I don't know play.com, are they the kind of site that will offer games for sale without having any idea about price or availability? That kin of site will often set a high price, because customers will hold them to the price if it is too low.
BrotherWill
01-20-2007, 10:55 AM
What I find particularly funny is you all complain about the price but I got $20 that says every one of you buys it. :drevil:
Rick Astley
01-20-2007, 10:56 AM
We don't really know that, do we?
I don't think I have seen "EA Link" only on any of the official info?
But the price seems rather steep.
I don't know play.com, are they the kind of site that will offer games for sale without having any idea about price or availability? That kin of site will often set a high price, because customers will hold them to the price if it is too low.
Well, to me play.com seems like some web-shop that's just doing things before have even had some info on it and just put a price on it.
I'm pretty sure the BP will only be available on EA Link, otherwise the BF2 BPs would have been in the stores already.
I'm not complaining about the price, i will buy it! Night maps FTW!
nutcrackr
01-20-2007, 10:58 AM
We don't really know that, do we?
I don't think I have seen "EA Link" only on any of the official info?.
Yes we do know that
http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?sls=2&tstart=0&threadID=175080&start=31
Vreki
01-20-2007, 11:01 AM
I'm pretty sure the BP will only be available on EA Link, otherwise the BF2 BPs would have been in the stores already.
http://www.amazon.com/Battlefield-Booster-Collection-Force-Armored/dp/B000J53BZC/sr=8-6/qid=1169290724/ref=pd_bbs_sr_6/002-8406000-9247213?ie=UTF8&s=videogames
You may now go back and edit your post to pretend this never happened :D
I'm not complaining about the price, i will buy it! Night maps FTW!
I will hold my complaint until I actually know the price;)
For 10$ I will be almost certain to get it.
Vreki
01-20-2007, 11:04 AM
Yes we do know that
http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?sls=2&tstart=0&threadID=175080&start=31
Ok, that seems reliable enough, although they do have two months to change their mind.
But that doesn't make play.com look very trustworthy
Rick Astley
01-20-2007, 11:04 AM
Oh damn. I thought that Booster Pack collection was EA Link too, and it contained the two BPs. :p
Elinombrable
01-20-2007, 11:04 AM
Its a fake then. We will wait for prepaid cards (i hope rumours are true ;) )
RavenRealms
01-20-2007, 11:18 AM
Who cares if it's £15? I sure don't.
Hell, i'd even buy it if it were £25.
For the amount of fun and gameplay time you'll get out of it, 15 is nothing.
Remember: You can't put a price on fun.
InFiDeLiTY
01-20-2007, 11:20 AM
But that doesn't make play.com look very trustworthy
play.com is one of/is the biggest online only shops in the uk, its trustworthy lol
Spent over £1000 on their with no trouble from any products bought from their, if they have it up, they will get it in
Vreki
01-20-2007, 11:32 AM
play.com is one of/is the biggest online only shops in the uk, its trustworthy lol
Spent over £1000 on their with no trouble from any products bought from their, if they have it up, they will get it in
But that is a direct contradiction of the quote nutcrackr linked too:
Hey there, I noticed that some people are wondering how exactly Northern Strike will be shipped? So I just wanted to let you know that Northern Strike will be available exclusively through EA Link.
This was from an EA employee on their own forum.
Who cares if it's £15? I sure don't.
Hell, i'd even buy it if it were £25.
For the amount of fun and gameplay time you'll get out of it, 15 is nothing.
Remember: You can't put a price on fun.
Sure you can. For 15£ I will almost be able to buy BF1942 with all expacks AND BF Vietnam.
25£ is almost the price of a new game.
It is all about getting the best value for your money.
RavenRealms
01-20-2007, 11:35 AM
Guys, the reason play.com have it up is that you buy it from there, and they will e-mail you a code to put into EA Link to download it.
I've done it with a download version of 2142 one time.
The_KELRaTH
01-20-2007, 11:37 AM
Well I wouldn't pay £15.00 if it's just another BF2 type Booster pack. Content was small and too few purchased it so there were very few games.
Anyway, BF2142 was only £17.99
.........
The new game types could be interesting but only if it's an update for the game as a whole (all maps) rather than just the 3 in the pack. It's not helped that EA don't seem to add further support content later either - I enjoyed BF2 SF (£11.99 when new) but it really was in need of more map content.
extremer
01-20-2007, 11:43 AM
£15 for a booster pack? Are you f*cking kidding me?
The game cost like £25, so I'm not paying 60% of the game price for just a few more maps, unlocks, vehicles.
Vreki
01-20-2007, 11:51 AM
Guys, the reason play.com have it up is that you buy it from there, and they will e-mail you a code to put into EA Link to download it.
I've done it with a download version of 2142 one time.
You could do the same in Denmark. But that would mean 15£ for the download, so there isn't even the excuse of shipping and handling.
WarGimp
01-20-2007, 11:53 AM
Sounds scammy to me.
I'd defiantly NOT pre-order from those guys.
kiyomasa
01-20-2007, 11:55 AM
A friend of a friend heard from a guy who knows a guy who works with a guy who eats lunch at the same restaurant as a person who works for a video game retail chain, and they said the Booster Pack will literally cost you an arm and a leg, your firstborn, a pint of blood, and a left shoe. How can Dice do this to us? I mean it's going to be really tough playing this game with only one arm. And what if they take your right leg but then take your left shoe? EA is bad for letting this happen. Their badness makes their games ungood. The goodness of thier games is made bad by the badness of EA. Bad bad good bad bad good bad....good....bad...
extremer
01-20-2007, 11:57 AM
A friend of a friend heard from a guy who knows a guy who works with a guy who eats lunch at the same restaurant as a person who works for a video game retail chain, and they said the Booster Pack will literally cost you an arm and a leg, your firstborn, a pint of blood, and a left shoe. How can Dice do this to us? I mean it's going to be really tough playing this game with only one arm. And what if they take your right leg but then take your left shoe? EA is bad for letting this happen. Their badness makes their games ungood. The goodness of thier games is made bad by the badness of EA. Bad bad good bad bad good bad....good....bad...
Hahah, if there was a reputation system, i'd +rep you for making me laugh.
SenorPico
01-20-2007, 12:20 PM
I would like to buy this stuff in a store.
Some European Countries ar not so into CreditCards.
cheesymangav
01-20-2007, 12:43 PM
Too much money. Most of us are gaming on a budget, whether you are young and still at school or whatever, or you are a bit older and have bills and a family etc. Most of us have a finite budget and this is eating into it too much for a couple of new maps and vehicles. Especially with upgrade season approaching before too long ( Vista, DX10 ). I would like to get it as it looks pretty cool, but I can't justify almost the price of a new game for a BP.
RavenRealms
01-20-2007, 12:45 PM
You could do the same in Denmark. But that would mean 15£ for the download, so there isn't even the excuse of shipping and handling.
Nah, there is just the excuse of electricity to run the download servers, bandwidth costs AND maintenance by humans.
Badboris_uk
01-20-2007, 12:49 PM
I mean it's going to be really tough playing this game with only one arm
Its okay, you can just play as sniper, you'll be fine
Vreki
01-20-2007, 12:59 PM
Nah, there is just the excuse of electricity to run the download servers, bandwidth costs AND maintenance by humans.
I find it hard to believe that those expenses has sky-rocketed since I paid 10 Euro (6,56 £) for Euro Forces less than a year ago.
dontsh000t
01-20-2007, 02:25 PM
What I find particularly funny is you all complain about the price but I got $20 that says every one of you buys it. :drevil:
wanna take me up on that bet? :)
*FMJ*Power
01-20-2007, 02:31 PM
im still dumbfounded over the price, i wasnt too worried before, i was thinking it was ten bucks, big deal, if it sucks it was just ten bucks, no love lost but how on earth can they charge over twice the price of the bf2 booster packs for the same amount if not less content....ill tell you exactly why...they are taking advantage of the rank and unlock system to the maximum, taking advantage of the player to the maximum, does EA have no shame, no morals?
thats the same price SF was and it included over 10 maps and a plethora of new vehicle's, it was worth it but this, this band aid they call northern strike, this has got to be some kind of sick joke.
i honestly truly believe now that ea doesn't really give a sh*t about anything but money, i used to give them the benefit of the doubt when people would slam them but this is it, its gone way to far.
i honesty might not buy it is going to be $30 us and now after seeing this i can say with confidence we will not run it. this is going to backfire like a mofo, if it is $30 bucks you can be damn sure there will not be any rooms playable after two months and it wont even matter, ea will of gotten payed. they are overestimating themselves, like a newb crying hack every time he gets killed, this one could be a nail in the coffin.
*FMJ*Birdsht
01-20-2007, 02:36 PM
I was on the fence about it for $10. They can kick rocks on this one for $20-$30. No way am I buying it or will even consider hosting it. I will let everyone go ape ca ca for a few days like the last crap boosters and the hype will die off. I dont care if they add some G36e slutbag money gun. Its the principle of it. I got suckered into AF late into the game and felt very foolish. I didnt bite on Euroflop. That thing reeked like a dead whale carcass
DarthOps2142
01-20-2007, 02:40 PM
Just want to say that play.com is totally legit, use it all the time. This is not fake, it will be a code so you can download VIA EA LINK,
oh, btw
£15 is bloody ridiculous!!!:mad:
BrotherWill
01-20-2007, 02:46 PM
wanna take me up on that bet? :)
Why yes I do! Its like saying a crack addict wont buy crack because it went from $10 a rock to $15. :laugh:
jackal22
01-20-2007, 03:08 PM
guys play.com is very reliable and cheaper then most other sites, ive personally bought nearly £200 worth of various stuff off them with no hastle and with a edlivery time of only 2 days from order.
if they say its there, its there...
and come on ea dont have the best trackrecord when it coems to telling the truth and other things...
besides i think its for both: NORTHERN STRIKE and what ever the **** infantry storm is, i dont think its included in northern strike...
still one big rip. oh im going to love seeing the ea boards faces when they see the sh!te sales.
Rick Astley
01-20-2007, 03:42 PM
I'll bet it's gonna be 10 bucks, so you all will be fine!
Deesies
01-20-2007, 03:44 PM
I've seen entire expansion packs cost cheaper than 20 quid =/
I guess it's a good thing you can buy it in stores but that's an extortionate price.
Vreki
01-20-2007, 04:00 PM
guys play.com is very reliable and cheaper then most other sites, ive personally bought nearly £200 worth of various stuff off them with no hastle and with a edlivery time of only 2 days from order.
if they say its there, its there...
and come on ea dont have the best trackrecord when it coems to telling the truth and other things...
besides i think its for both: NORTHERN STRIKE and what ever the **** infantry storm is, i dont think its included in northern strike...
still one big rip. oh im going to love seeing the ea boards faces when they see the sh!te sales.
I am pretty certain that "Infantry Storm" was just a working title for Northern Strike. If you compare the leaked and the official info you will notice that all references to "Infantry Storm" has been replaced with "Northern Strike"
I still haven't given up hope that EA will continue the pricing policy from BF2. Play.com even writes the the standard price is 20£, I find it very hard to believe that they would triple the price of booster backs.
gamefoo
01-20-2007, 04:23 PM
Quick answer: No.
So, has anyone else ever thought it might be 10 to DL and 30 to buy? hm?
I dont think we should put it past EA to do something like this
After all they are a corporation, and what do corporations do?
they make money
But this would be just insane
Deesies
01-20-2007, 05:11 PM
So, has anyone else ever thought it might be 10 to DL and 30 to buy? hm?
The RRP is £20. IIRC, online distribution isn't allowed to sell below the RRP. Could be wrong but I think this is the case.
The_Eliminator
01-20-2007, 05:35 PM
So the US get it for $10 which is about £5 but the UK is still going to be sold it for £15, this brings EA to a whole new level of "joke".
Drevor
01-20-2007, 05:36 PM
Im sorry whatnow?!
20-25€ for 10(90% sucky) unlocks, 3 maps and 2 vehicles ... did I miss something? Do we get a free ERTS share with that? How do you justify a 150% increase for *a* BP in one year?
And btw... only EA Link? Do they actually realize that over here in "ye olde world" not everyone gets 20 credit cards at birth?
antihero
01-20-2007, 06:09 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Battlefield-Booster-Collection-Force-Armored/dp/B000J53BZC/sr=8-6/qid=1169290724/ref=pd_bbs_sr_6/002-8406000-9247213?ie=UTF8&s=videogames
You may now go back and edit your post to pretend this never happened :D
That is for both Booster Packs on BF2 that WERE WHEN RELEASED ONLY ON EA DOWNLOADER, which is now EA Link. Plus that is a new SKU in the eyes of companies.
To the Author, all the Booster Packs have gone for $9.99 and I'll count on that price over some lame site with a half *** order page before the game is released.
Deesies
01-20-2007, 06:13 PM
So the US get it for $10 which is about £5 but the UK is still going to be sold it for £15, this brings EA to a whole new level of "joke".
The only price we know of is from play.com which tells us the RRP is £20
play.com is not some random website. It's a very reliable and respectable service that many, many people use.
Caraibas
01-20-2007, 06:17 PM
I'll save the booster pack money for quake wars, or something else that actually worths my money, screw you EA/DICE.
Drevor
01-20-2007, 06:17 PM
That is for both Booster Packs on BF2 that WERE WHEN RELEASED ONLY ON EA DOWNLOADER, which is now EA Link. Plus that is a new SKU in the eyes of companies.
To the Author, all the Booster Packs have gone for $9.99 and I'll count on that price over some lame site with a half *** order page before the game is released.
No, in certain countries (eg Germany) they sold the box with a download code on a little flyer.
Download, burn - hardcopy .. thank you
Rick Astley
01-20-2007, 06:18 PM
The only price we know of is from play.com which tells us the RRP is £20
play.com is not some random website. It's a very reliable and respectable service that many, many people use.
I think they are just making up a price, hoping that the £20cwill be the advice price and hoping guys will pre-order it ( if it's possible )
Deesies
01-20-2007, 06:18 PM
You can't make an RRP up. That's an official price tag :P
angelofdeath3131
01-20-2007, 06:32 PM
Like I said in earlier posts. Booster packs are worthless garbage. If a company wants to expand on there product they create expansion packs. It is a rip.
Vreki
01-20-2007, 06:59 PM
That is for both Booster Packs on BF2 that WERE WHEN RELEASED ONLY ON EA DOWNLOADER, which is now EA Link. Plus that is a new SKU in the eyes of companies.
I know that, it was in response to Toxic_Wolfs comment about the BF2 boosters not being in stores.
Nobody seems to have seen them outside USA anyway.
To the Author, all the Booster Packs have gone for $9.99 and I'll count on that price over some lame site with a half *** order page before the game is released.
I wont believe it either before I see it on more websites.
The one on play.com doesn't look very impressive, it is a direct copy and paste filled with strange "¿" characters.
Nothing about it being a download or a hardcopy or even that BF2142 is required.
Like I said in earlier posts. Booster packs are worthless garbage. If a company wants to expand on there product they create expansion packs. It is a rip.
Expansion packs can rip the community apart even more. It forces the player to decide between the two games and they aren't a seamless transition.
MrChris_CJ
01-20-2007, 07:35 PM
lol, ill save up a few quid more and buy QW, which by its quality and gameplay should probably be worth a lot more, people who buy the booster packs should be banned from getting it also
but meh, by then i shall have SupCom as well, and crisis will be out nearly a week later
evolvtYon
01-20-2007, 07:44 PM
I thought the booster could only be downloaded via EA Link.
Why? what about other players?
Anyway i find it's price a little bit too much, is this for real??
Deesies
01-20-2007, 07:47 PM
Why? what about other players?
Anyway i find it's price a little bit too much, is this for real??
That's what they said, the booster will only be available via EA's broken link.
It was the same with BF2's boosters before they started selling them in the shops after people stopped playing them.
evolvtYon
01-20-2007, 08:56 PM
That's what they said, the booster will only be available via EA's broken link.
It was the same with BF2's boosters before they started selling them in the shops after people stopped playing them.
this is a little crappy policy they got here.. do ya know if this also happens with valve ??
Rick Astley
01-20-2007, 09:15 PM
You can't make an RRP up. That's an official price tag :P
If i knew what RRP was i could understand the British price tags a little bit more.
But how the heck does play.com knows the price without even knowing what is in the BP?
evolvtYon
01-20-2007, 09:19 PM
If i knew what RRP was i could understand the British price tags a little bit more.
But how the heck does play.com knows the price without even knowing what is in the BP?
They probably have more sources than us.. and direct "conversation channels" to EA perhaps..
Rick Astley
01-20-2007, 09:22 PM
They probably have more sources than us.. and direct "conversation channels" to EA perhaps..
And why do the other sites don't have it then?
A big site like Gamestop doesn't have a price for it.
evolvtYon
01-20-2007, 09:28 PM
And why do the other sites don't have it then?
A big site like Gamestop doesn't have a price for it.
i do not hold all the answers :p but we could answer this simply by malling them asking and see what they say. If they say nothing, its' made up. you up for it? they gotta have a contact e-mail...
antihero
01-20-2007, 09:34 PM
No, in certain countries (eg Germany) they sold the box with a download code on a little flyer.
Download, burn - hardcopy .. thank you
True and I'm sure that doesn't help anyone not in Germany and I bet they get it later than the rest of us.
I'll save the booster pack money for quake wars, or something else that actually worths my money, screw you EA/DICE. I can't believe how easy you trust some website. Maybe I should make on for you to buy my share of the Golden Gate Bridge.
i do not hold all the answers :p but we could answer this simply by malling them asking and see what they say. If they say nothing, its' made up. you up for it? they gotta have a contact e-mail... I tried clicking buy that looped me to the page again. They are full of BS and anyone believing this crap is a fool.
evolvtYon
01-20-2007, 10:01 PM
I tried clicking buy that looped me to the page again. They are full of BS and anyone believing this crap is a fool.
I'm NOT buying the sites' info on the price. however did you noticed on your left that the site adds' it to your chopping cart?? anyway it says there
" availability: Due for release on 23/03/2007 "
Anyway i repeat : I'm NOT buying the sites' info on the price, call me ceptic and see if i care :p I'll believe when i see it! Anyway QW:ET is coming... OMFG !!!
evolvtYon
01-20-2007, 10:09 PM
That is for both Booster Packs on BF2 that WERE WHEN RELEASED ONLY ON EA DOWNLOADER, which is now EA Link. Plus that is a new SKU in the eyes of companies.
To the Author, all the Booster Packs have gone for $9.99 and I'll count on that price over some lame site with a half *** order page before the game is released.
I don't understand this, back here in Portugal i remember to see every single BP in the stores when they came out..
plus the EA guys' response in their forums was great!! :
"Hey there, I noticed that some people are wondering how exactly Northern Strike will be shipped? So I just wanted to let you know that Northern Strike will be available exclusively through EA Link. "
note the Wondering, this after 3 pages of active questions.. I'm wondering if they deserve more of my money right now..
antihero
01-20-2007, 10:09 PM
I'm NOT buying the sites' info on the price. however did you noticed on your left that the site adds' it to your chopping cart?? anyway it says there
" availability: Due for release on 23/03/2007 "
Anyway i repeat : I'm NOT buying the sites' info on the price, call me ceptic and see if i care :p I'll believe when i see it! Anyway QW:ET is coming... OMFG !!!
I was excited about that too, until I heard it is again pushed back until July. I bet it gets pushed back again.
evolvtYon
01-20-2007, 10:32 PM
yeah, i heard that too... Anyawy people on their foruns are like :
" Well, i don't know about you guys - but If I can't buy it on a physical disk, i'm not buying it at all.
"Packageing is expensive." Psssh. Make us pay the diffrence, then. No one that I know (that plays BF2142) is going to buy Northern Strike if it's not on a physical disk. Decides, EA Link is slow as hell. It's a poor attempt at matching Steam. >_> "
and :
" Is Northern Strike Free? "
finally :
" James,
the booster pack sounds fantastic. I especially appreciate the attention to the infantry-focused maps. But tell your boss that NO HARD DISK, NO BUY. I won't buy it unless it's on DVD-ROM. "
And you now what? these guys are right! EA its' not steam, and a download its' not a disc.
Besides even valve releases physical versions giving a choice to users. You gotta win the thrust of users' before going totalitarian. " Atchung1! you either dowload it, or don't play it!! "
well.. i have to say. Fubar with you.
Deesies
01-20-2007, 10:34 PM
this is a little crappy policy they got here.. do ya know if this also happens with valve ??
Valve always releases in store versions of games at the same time as through steam.
It's always available to buy through steam first, true, but that's only because the shops haven't opened yet :P
I hope it doesnt get pushed back, cause we will have to listen to your Bitching/Complaining =P.
evolvtYon
01-20-2007, 10:40 PM
I hope it doesnt get pushed back, cause we will have to listen to your Bitching/Complaining =P.
yeah you damn right!! then we would have to listen to your all mighty words defending what is wrong :p :p :p
Chasepwner
01-20-2007, 10:57 PM
Wait a minute... $30? Are you ****ing kidding me? That is more than the full game in many cases!! SF costed $30 and had a hell of a lot more content (though I didn't buy it) and this booster pack has less content than the BF2 boosters yet they cost more. There is no way in hell me or anyone with half a brain and a normal sized wallet will buy this at $30 bucks.
kiyomasa
01-20-2007, 10:58 PM
i do not hold all the answers :p but we could answer this simply by malling them asking and see what they say. If they say nothing, its' made up. you up for it? they gotta have a contact e-mail...
Quiet you! If we did something logical like that it might undercut the current of paranoia, fear, and anger that the community is awash in right now. I mean let's see we could get verification from play.com on how they got that price and try to actually investigate this...or we could just use minimal information, heresay, and preconceptions to form our opinion on EA, Dice, the BP, and the people who would dare undercut the solidarity of players against the company that made the game they enjoy and buy the damned BP.
Seriously people, this whole conversation and tone reminds me of the McCarthy hearings over communism from the 1950's (for those who are unaware of that which I speak, read a frakking history book). The players who don't want to pay are holding court, EA is the new Soviet Union, players who plan on buying the BP are communist sympathizers, and the community is America. Those with an agenda against EA are using mis- or partial information to work the community up into a frothing frenzy over the evils of corporate America (i.e. EA/Dice).
Let it go! I'm getting sick of all the whining and preaching about a product that isn't even out yet! :mad:
Why don't we wait until we have all the facts before we make a decision about Northern Strike.
jackal22
01-20-2007, 11:15 PM
look its ea.
its like what they pulled with the ****ing demos.
they set the release date but only let paying gamespot customers get it, then the rest of the world later.
if they can sell a DEMO they will definantly try to flog this piece of crap for as much as they can get.
evolvtYon
01-20-2007, 11:25 PM
Quiet you! If we did something logical like that it might undercut the current of paranoia, fear, and anger that the community is awash in right now. (...) The players who don't want to pay are holding court, EA is the new Soviet Union, players who plan on buying the BP are communist sympathizers, and the community is America. Those with an agenda against EA are using mis- or partial information to work the community up into a frothing frenzy over the evils of corporate America (i.e. EA/Dice).
(censured:p )
Why don't we wait until we have all the facts before we make a decision about Northern Strike.
dah!! comrade, dah!! spahseebah!!
translation from Russian : there are no soviets, only socialists :p
Disclaimer : This translation does NOT reflex the actual meaning of the phrase, for that use google or hire a russian teacher. if you become desperate play BF2142 with attention or ask a Russian friend. Further support can and http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3374/err5ph.png be found.
Maybe they didnt want a huge influx on theyre servers so they ended up spending more money than they earned -.-.
Vreki
01-21-2007, 08:59 AM
According to this info (http://forums.ea.com/mboards/message.jspa?messageID=1723400&sls=2#1723400), it will be priced like the BF2 boosters.
As to price point, the pricing should be comparable to that for the BF2 Boosters.
-James Pond
Rick Astley
01-21-2007, 10:30 AM
^^^
I said so.........
Flt. Sgt. Powderhound
01-21-2007, 04:38 PM
Comparable means nothing. £1 is comparable to £1000000000000 in that you can compare them :P
Kraxis
01-21-2007, 09:55 PM
Why yes I do! Its like saying a crack addict wont buy crack because it went from $10 a rock to $15. :laugh:
I am sure these last pages of discussion had made it painfully aware to you that at some point you have made a little mistake. Bust since this is you last post here, I will play the part of the overbearing teacher.
Today we learn about Pound Sterling and Dollars. They are different currencies, used in different countries. However often both currencies are used in textual conversation in their symbol versions.
Here we have them;
$ and £
And which is which? Well, the former is Dollar and the latter is Pound Sterling. And to remove any confusion about the relative worths, you can often calculate with about 2$ for 1£. Hence the 15£ is not equal to 15$, but more like 30$ (of course it isn't 30 exactly).
Crack going up from 10$ to 30$ (meaning three times as those prices are hardly very representative for crack I suppose) would certainly make an impact on the trade.
So please make sure you don't blurt out little snipeattempts like that in future. Yes this is a snipe, but one that was worth it as if thise price is right I will certainly not buy the BP, and you can mark my words for the bet. Of course I won't keep you to it (I'm generally friendly).
Brood+98
01-25-2007, 01:14 PM
HOLY CRAP! 50 aussie dollarie doos! thats like 10 hours work for me D:
Apostle
01-25-2007, 01:39 PM
Hmm, I'll take this with a pinch of salt as I've not found play.com very reliable in the past. I do know that if it's more than the BF2 booster price, I shall not be buying.
Whether you like it or not, eventually they will produce booster packs that horribly distort balance. This way they can bully you into buying them by handing you a handicap and slapping you in the face.
This **** should be free..... nuff said.
Buttoneer
01-25-2007, 01:49 PM
I see no price on the site.
Kraxis
01-25-2007, 01:54 PM
Hmm, I'll take this with a pinch of salt as I've not found play.com very reliable in the past. I do know that if it's more than the BF2 booster price, I shall not be buying.
Thank you... I have tried to ask around as to what people think of play.com since I don't know them, but you are the first to give a concrete answer about the reliability (not something about buying stuff from them).
Then I suppose we can expect the price to be lower. Perhaps good, perhaps bad... I will still wait and see.
Vreki
01-25-2007, 04:20 PM
I see no price on the site.
He is right, the price has been removed.
So either it was wrong, or it was supposed to be secret.
Enter the Conspiracy Theorists! :cool:
Kibax
01-25-2007, 04:24 PM
Im not complaining, I'll gladly pay.
therealmat
01-25-2007, 04:33 PM
He is right, the price has been removed.
So either it was wrong, or it was supposed to be secret.
Enter the Conspiracy Theorists! :cool:
Oooh conspiracy theories, I have quite a few. :D
antihero
01-25-2007, 07:26 PM
This **** should be free..... nuff said.
Where is this fantasy land you live. Everything has a price and I will gladly pay for quality content. Has the youth of today been spoiled by downloading stuff for free. In my day we had to buy music and every other piece of software to even use it.
Rogue Warrior
01-25-2007, 07:59 PM
Just STFU about the booster packs costing XXX amount of dollars.
Bottom line is this........ You say "I WONT BUY IT, SCREW EA"
Guys come ON FFS. I said "I WOULD NEVER BUY 2142"
But guess what. I sure as hell did!!! And 2142 is WHAT BF2 should have been, And I will continue to buy the next BP, or expansions.
Oh Hell I am getting Crysis Too!!!
antihero
01-25-2007, 09:08 PM
Oh Hell I am getting Crysis Too!!!
Oh god, say it isn't so! You'll buy play and enjoy two games by the Hades(EA). May Hades himself torture your empty soul! :D
Glad to see other level headed adults around. ;)
GunHappyBob
01-26-2007, 02:35 AM
As soon as NS is release I look forward to playing with the 80% of you who said you aren't getting it.
Kibax
01-26-2007, 07:14 AM
As soon as NS is release I look forward to playing with the 80% of you who said you aren't getting it.
Lmao.
Wait a minute... $30? Are you ****ing kidding me? That is more than the full game in many cases!! SF costed $30 and had a hell of a lot more content (though I didn't buy it) and this booster pack has less content than the BF2 boosters yet they cost more. There is no way in hell me or anyone with half a brain and a normal sized wallet will buy this at $30 bucks.
So, Because we dont agree...And we want new stuff...And we dont think its a problem...We are stupid? By your logic America and anyone opposing hitler was stupid and had half a brain and shouldnt have done so, Nice theory.
1). I am not paying anywhere near £30, i'm not even happy about paying £1 on it when its only new maps and a few unlocks.
2). If they insist on charging me anything over a tenner then i'll save my cash for the multitide of better titles coming out in just a few months.
I'm not sticking my fingers up and saying YOU SUCK... but seriously i'm struggling to understand why we should have to pay for content thats free in other titles.
Feel free to flame away, those that are so willing to throw away cash at this apparent addition to an already incomplete title. I like the game, it's fun... although not perfect or anywhere NEAR infact.
It has problems that should of been fixed back in beta but they remain. Sure EA have done this before and they will continue to, as long as we have the morons who like to be the mouthpeice for the entire community saying everythings fine.
Sorry but i'm just not happy with a few maps and unlocks... not happy enough to justify paying for it. So go tell me NOT to but then make a point why i should be any different from the hundreds that paid full price for the retail version.
Ingame ads serve what purpose for the community? Oh thats right... they don't.
1). I am not paying anywhere near £30, i'm not even happy about paying £1 on it when its only new maps and a few unlocks.
2). If they insist on charging me anything over a tenner then i'll save my cash for the multitide of better titles coming out in just a few months.
I'm not sticking my fingers up and saying YOU SUCK... but seriously i'm struggling to understand why we should have to pay for content thats free in other titles.
Feel free to flame away, those that are so willing to throw away cash at this apparent addition to an already incomplete title. I like the game, it's fun... although not perfect or anywhere NEAR infact.
It has problems that should of been fixed back in beta but they remain. Sure EA have done this before and they will continue to, as long as we have the morons who like to be the mouthpeice for the entire community saying everythings fine.
Sorry but i'm just not happy with a few maps and unlocks... not happy enough to justify paying for it. So go tell me NOT to but then make a point why i should be any different from the hundreds that paid full price for the retail version.
Ingame ads serve what purpose for the community? Oh thats right... they don't.
£30 is far over the top, it will more then likely be £5-7 like the BF2 Booster packs, no more then £10 for sure like you said you'd be willing to pay.
You say other titles give this type of content away for free, ok sure they do but unless you're paying a montly fee to play this game i'm sure you'll notice that the content they give you is not nearly this much, this fast. As with BF2 and others i've seen you get something like 1 map every 5 months or something. You can say they can't justify this content having to be paid for, but can you honestly justify them working for and having their jobs cost money and us not pay for their work?
£30 is far over the top, it will more then likely be £5-7 like the BF2 Booster packs, no more then £10 for sure like you said you'd be willing to pay.
You say other titles give this type of content away for free, ok sure they do but unless you're paying a montly fee to play this game i'm sure you'll notice that the content they give you is not nearly this much, this fast. As with BF2 and others i've seen you get something like 1 map every 5 months or something. You can say they can't justify this content having to be paid for, but can you honestly justify them working for and having their jobs cost money and us not pay for their work?
It's not a matter of pushing content out quickly, it's the quailty of it that counts. Making customers pay ANYTHING for a job that could be done by any half decent MODDER in a matter of weeks, is in no way justifiable.
I could understand if they added a new game mode - but they have NOT
I could understand if they had added new textures/buildings but they have NOT
We get what, 3 new maps, some more 'unlocks' and 2 vec's. All of this perfectly doable by any MODDER with some ability. You can't honestly say to me maps are worth paying for. I bet there are plenty talented map makers out there capable of creating FAR better maps then what we are given.
The problem there is it all comes down once again to RANKING. This is the reason we can't have custom maps and what partially ruins the game for me. This is another topic entirley though.
I simply do not understand why they cannot release FREE booster packs. As for paying the wages, did any of the UT map packs/Mods made by the official team get paid by us?
They sure as hell did NOT and that content was WORTH cash.
Buttoneer
01-26-2007, 01:08 PM
Thank you... I have tried to ask around as to what people think of play.com since I don't know them, but you are the first to give a concrete answer about the reliability (not something about buying stuff from them).
OK another recommendation from me then. I've spent big with them over the years and always found them to be great for price, for delivery (can often get things delivered the day before release, for example), and also for after sales (the key, right?)
In one case, I ordered a copy of Downfall (movie about the last ten days of Adolf in his Berlin bunker) which simply didn't turn up. They sent a replacement. Again, it didn't turn up. They sent another (no quibble) which did finally arrive. You can't beat service like that. Since then I've had all packages delivered to work, and that has solved the problem.
I always check the play price before I consider buying anywhere else.
Buttoneer
01-26-2007, 01:13 PM
I could understand if they added a new game mode - but they have NOT
Yes they have. A new assault mode where only the next flag is available for capping.
I could understand if they had added new textures/buildings but they have NOT.
Yes they have - new uniforms and even two new vehicles, as well as the Titan docks.
Along with the fact that to you the cost will be $10, which will be as little at £6, I'd say that's all your concerns dealt with.
Yes they have. A new assault mode where only the next flag is available for capping.
Yes they have - new uniforms and even two new vehicles, as well as the Titan docks.
Along with the fact that to you the cost will be $10, which will be as little at £6, I'd say that's all your concerns dealt with.
If that's EA/DICE's views on a NEW GAME TYPE then i'm even more put off spending cash on it. They have simply changed how an EXISTING gametype works. Sorry but you clearly have no grasp on what a new game type would be.
New Uniforms, NEW UNIFORMS.. i could have made those changes using MS Paint ffs. They have opened up the skin and painted over the original... half a days work if THAT. Not my idea of introducing a great depth of change there really is it.
2 New vec's... hell thats something nice so no complaints here... but just because i like the idea should i have to pay £6 for them!! No bloody way!! As for the titan docks... don't even get me bloody started. Wow big deal, they changed ABIT of the Titan.. woo.. why don't they just add a few more tree's to existing maps while they are at it. If you're going to change anything to do with the titan how about fixing the shoddy clipping INSIDE IT.
Tell ya.. at this rate i'll pay ANY AMOUNT to see the game working as it should!
However back onto the booster,is it worth £6-10? No... not when i could of made some of the changes myself if we were given a little more freedom to MOD.
Things i would pay for should include:
New faction perhaps
Proper top tier upgrades (better then STOCK items)
New texture's/Buildings on BIGGER maps
New Vecs (included)
All these together and i'd part with some cash maybe...
If the booster pack was free, this would all be null and void.. or would you seriously be begging to pay for this.
Why should we HAVE to pay for it?
Buttoneer
01-26-2007, 05:04 PM
If that's EA/DICE's views on a NEW GAME TYPE then i'm even more put off spending cash on it. They have simply changed how an EXISTING gametype works. Sorry but you clearly have no grasp on what a new game type would be.
No you're right I don't. Educate me. Give me three examples that you would consider worthy of your cash.
As for the titan docks... don't even get me bloody started. Wow big deal, they changed ABIT of the Titan.. woo.. why don't they just add a few more tree's to existing maps while they are at it. If you're going to change anything to do with the titan how about fixing the shoddy clipping INSIDE IT.
No not a redesigned Titan, a large hanger where they build a Titan - a Titan dock. Why not read up a little on what it is you're complaining about? I completely agree that there are currently issues with the game that ought to be resolved and I think that DICE/EA does need to pull out the stops to resolve them.
You asked for new game modes and new buildings, I give you new game modes and buildings but somehow they're not quite good enough. For you.
However back onto the booster,is it worth £6-10? No... not when i could of made some of the changes myself if we were given a little more freedom to MOD.
Things i would pay for should include:
New faction perhaps
Proper top tier upgrades (better then STOCK items)
New texture's/Buildings on BIGGER maps
New Vecs (included)
All these together and i'd part with some cash maybe...
Oh right, so a post ago it was just a new building and a game mode. Now I KNOW you're just trolling. There's a great big massive bridge on one of the new maps, and another is set in a night environment. But I'm guessing that these would have taken your grandmother 20 minutes to put together too.
If the booster pack was free, this would all be null and void.. or would you seriously be begging to pay for this.
Why should we HAVE to pay for it?
Why should we HAVE to pay for it? Because if you spent a few hundred man hours working on something you wouldn't expect to give it away for free, so why expect them to?
Nobody will force you to pay, so don't pay it. Move along. Leave this forum and just stick with the main game. Come back a month after it has been released and crow about how wise you were for not buying and how we all wasted our money because there are no servers running the maps anymore.
Until then, you're wasting your keystrokes begging for a freebie mate.
RavenRealms
01-26-2007, 06:04 PM
Just STFU about the booster packs costing XXX amount of dollars.
Bottom line is this........ You say "I WONT BUY IT, SCREW EA"
Guys come ON FFS. I said "I WOULD NEVER BUY 2142"
But guess what. I sure as hell did!!! And 2142 is WHAT BF2 should have been, And I will continue to buy the next BP, or expansions.
Oh Hell I am getting Crysis Too!!!
Your whole post is a replica of my own mind.
Nice one :)
Kibax
01-26-2007, 06:05 PM
Guys seriously, what your paying for is good ****. Yes I think the price should be lower due to in-game ads but EA has learnt from the mistakes of the BF2 boosters. So I know I will be buying this booster, even if the price is higher than what it should be.
cptgarf
01-26-2007, 06:26 PM
well, you don't pay a monthly fee to play online like other games
Oh right, so a post ago it was just a new building and a game mode. Now I KNOW you're just trolling. There's a great big massive bridge on one of the new maps, and another is set in a night environment. But I'm guessing that these would have taken your grandmother 20 minutes to put together too.
A bridge... great, so i should pay cash for a bridge and a map with no sunlight? Seriously do hope you don't get picked up by a marketing company to sell their product.
Why should we HAVE to pay for it? Because if you spent a few hundred man hours working on something you wouldn't expect to give it away for free, so why expect them to?
Yet there are HUNDREDS of companies out there now, that mass produce content and allow it to be downloaded for FREE. UT/CS/CS:S are good examples of how it SHOULD be done. We are given no freedom to create maps that anyone will play because of the ranking system. As long as you're happy paying to have someone kick you in the nuts...
Nobody will force you to pay, so don't pay it. Move along. Leave this forum and just stick with the main game. Come back a month after it has been released and crow about how wise you were for not buying and how we all wasted our money because there are no servers running the maps anymore.
That's right nobody is forcing me to pay for it but when they start churning out boosters that effect balance then what do i do? I'll have to stop playing the game simply because the only way to succeed is to pay cash out. If i wanted to do that i'd play WoW and buy gold off ebay.
I'm not going to wait until the servers are practivally non-existant and then brag how i was right. Sure, i'm a little annoyed at the people that continue to make this stuff cost by bending over and taking it up the ***.
If WHOLE games can be made free to the public (i could nam a fair few GOOD MMORPG's) why shouldnt this small 'booster pack' be free? EA/DICE has enough money to pay the booster team their wage regardless of how this 'sells'.
Let's see how the population of BF2142 migrates when games come out that offer the same without the greed.
Tedno
01-28-2007, 11:59 AM
Well im gonna buy it regardless.
Trevortt
01-28-2007, 01:34 PM
Don't buy it people, u know it will only be as poo as the booster packs for BF2 were.
Move onto QW:ET when it is out.
antihero
01-28-2007, 01:36 PM
A5ko, you are a poor confused ignorant young man. UT/CS/CS:S doesn't give away free content like you proclaim. CS:S is not free and I've played BF2142 a hell of a lot longer than CS:S which IMO is a crappy game that they ported with almost no change. Custom maps in BF1942 and BF:V where barely played and same would happen in BF2 and BF2142 with or with out ranking.
Also, every time someone proves you wrong you make up a new story. Be happy you can internet cowboy because if we were all sitting having a beer your tone would change greatly.
RICHGB
01-28-2007, 04:56 PM
will only get this BP because ive got no unlocks to get and its getting boring being a brig gen as for the cost EA have always taken our eyes out so why stop now,it should be free after all the bugs and lag of 2142
RadarACB2
01-28-2007, 05:08 PM
I have to admit the price seems excessive, but I will probably break down and get it. I am pretty much exclusive with theBF series in terms of my limited gaming time, so I will reluctantly buy it.
Vreki
01-28-2007, 05:16 PM
I have to admit the price seems excessive, but I will probably break down and get it. I am pretty much exclusive with theBF series in terms of my limited gaming time, so I will reluctantly buy it.
Do you mean the 15£ or the 10$? Because I think that somewhere in this thread there is a DICE quote saying it will be priced "comparatively" to the other boosters, which costs 10$
therealmat
01-28-2007, 05:31 PM
eajamespond said that on the EA forum.
http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=175080&start=75&tstart=0
As to price point, the pricing should be comparable to that for the BF2 Boosters.
I am inclined to agree with him, the price and ordering info of NS has gone....
Sir. AAK625
01-28-2007, 05:40 PM
Well im gonna buy it regardless.
It is individuals like Tedno here, that make up the majority.
EA does not care that you don't want to spend the money. They know thousands of people will buy it regardless of some petty forum thread on the vast internet. Half of you that complain will get it anyway. The other half is negligible.
So, keep crying out with hopes that someone will actually give a damn. :rolleyes:
MrChris_CJ
01-28-2007, 06:45 PM
A5ko, you are a poor confused ignorant young man. UT/CS/CS:S doesn't give away free content like you proclaim. CS:S is not free and I've played BF2142 a hell of a lot longer than CS:S which IMO is a crappy game that they ported with almost no change. Custom maps in BF1942 and BF:V where barely played and same would happen in BF2 and BF2142 with or with out ranking.
Also, every time someone proves you wrong you make up a new story. Be happy you can internet cowboy because if we were all sitting having a beer your tone would change greatly.
thats a stupid thing to say
the patches for UT were filled with great changes and awesome maps, this has been the same with all the UT games and i gaurantee this will be the same with ut2007 - epic did not make ppl pay for that, nor have they ever released expansions or boosters to make more money
well duh css isnt free, neither is ut thats not the guys point, his point is that once u have the game EA is making you pay for content that companys such as valve release to css for free, valve constantly release updates over steam for no charge at all, and if ur saying css is no different to 1.6, then be quiet because u dont know anything, the game is totally different, if u actually knew anything about hl and cs ud know this
and in 1942 and bfv custom maps were widespread as were mods, look at DC, then EA introduces the ranking system and starts releasing substandard content for $$$ and ppl like u just jump on the bandwagon
netwrok
01-28-2007, 07:11 PM
I got hl2 for free with my video card and then I was able to download cs:s for free. wtf are you guys talking about source isn't free?
iDash
01-28-2007, 07:13 PM
Yea, $15 x 200,000(-)= $3000000
Unlike, BF2 boosters $10 x 300,000(+)= $3000000
Predictions()
Svartberg
01-28-2007, 07:23 PM
20$ is overpriced, but knowing EA I won't be surprised if it's true.
If they charge 10$ on the other hand, I doubt any BF2142 player won't buy it.
Drevor
01-29-2007, 04:16 AM
Over here the amazon.de is selling it for €12.99 (http://www.amazon.de/Battlefield-2142-Northern-Strike-Boosterpack/dp/B000MV8YTQ/sr=8-1/qid=1169827180/ref=sr_1_1/303-7331583-6285826?ie=UTF8&s=videogames) (no shipping) and EAs own webshop for 9.99€ (http://www.electronic-arts.de/publish/ea_spiele/spiele_info.html?etitel=Battlefield+2142%3A+Northe rn+Strike+Booster+Pack) (couldnt find any information about shipping/payment methods)
Vreki
01-29-2007, 06:39 AM
Over here the amazon.de is selling it for €12.99 (http://www.amazon.de/Battlefield-2142-Northern-Strike-Boosterpack/dp/B000MV8YTQ/sr=8-1/qid=1169827180/ref=sr_1_1/303-7331583-6285826?ie=UTF8&s=videogames) (no shipping) and EAs own webshop for 9.99€ (http://www.electronic-arts.de/publish/ea_spiele/spiele_info.html?etitel=Battlefield+2142%3A+Northe rn+Strike+Booster+Pack) (couldnt find any information about shipping/payment methods)
Thanks for the info. The 10€ is the same price as the BF2 boosters, so that sound believable.
As far as I can see, it doesn't actually say anything about hardcopy/download but just allows you to preorder.
Interesting enough, they have the release date as 08.03.2007.
thats a stupid thing to say
the patches for UT were filled with great changes and awesome maps, this has been the same with all the UT games and i gaurantee this will be the same with ut2007 - epic did not make ppl pay for that, nor have they ever released expansions or boosters to make more money
well duh css isnt free, neither is ut thats not the guys point, his point is that once u have the game EA is making you pay for content that companys such as valve release to css for free, valve constantly release updates over steam for no charge at all, and if ur saying css is no different to 1.6, then be quiet because u dont know anything, the game is totally different, if u actually knew anything about hl and cs ud know this
and in 1942 and bfv custom maps were widespread as were mods, look at DC, then EA introduces the ranking system and starts releasing substandard content for $$$ and ppl like u just jump on the bandwagon
Ta very much for explaining that so i did not have to ^_^
Dangerdog
01-29-2007, 08:48 AM
$10 says it'll be $10, anything more than that and they can sit on it.
Chewy_Solo
01-30-2007, 12:54 AM
ive seen from leaked and its worth $10
kirky51015
01-30-2007, 08:35 AM
In Australia, the BF2 boosters are $49.95 so mabie thats how
much it will cost.
Stupidly expensive, i know.
Vreki
01-30-2007, 08:45 AM
In Australia, the BF2 boosters are $49.95 so mabie thats how
much it will cost.
Stupidly expensive, i know.
Is that for the hardcopy?
Are you sure it is not for both boosterpacks, like here: http://www.amazon.com/Battlefield-Booster-Collection-Force-Armored/dp/B000J53BZC/sr=8-2/qid=1170146298/ref=sr_1_2/105-9154811-0008460?ie=UTF8&s=videogames
Because that is rather expensive.
RavenRealms
01-30-2007, 12:49 PM
A5ko, you are a poor confused ignorant young man. UT/CS/CS:S doesn't give away free content like you proclaim. CS:S is not free and I've played BF2142 a hell of a lot longer than CS:S which IMO is a crappy game that they ported with almost no change.
What the hell are you talking about, antihero? You are the confused one, my friend.
Valve are constantly giving updates for their games every week or two. CS:S is also totally different from 1.6.
If i remember correctly, Valve updated all their source games with HDR lighting and threw in new maps.
Don't speak BS unless you actually have played CS:S for more than 10 minutes.
P.s. CS:S IS FREE if you buy Half Life 2.
Aye and wait till UT2007 comes out. The community/Developer MOD's/MAPS along with improvements will be flying out free of charge every which way. Full conversions like CS have better support than BF2142 do.. and it's just a bloody MOD!
MrChris_CJ
01-30-2007, 03:14 PM
its good to know that at least some people here realise who the good devs are these days
antihero
01-31-2007, 10:20 PM
I want to clarify I don't think Valve, Epic and other Developers are not good. They do good things, but they do not give away free content. They package public made maps and distribute them is where a lot of it comes from. I think that is awesome, but it is not free content from them. Also, there actions do not dictate how everything should be done.
CS:S is not free regardless if it was included with a purchase. Bottom line is it makes them money. And I can't play it longer than 10 minutes because it is BS to me. I have no issues with others liking it.
MrChris_CJ
01-31-2007, 11:04 PM
Valve give away free content - turtle rock studios have carefully and faithfully remade several classic maps and valve have made their own new ones
Epic give away free content - any UT player will know this
Their games are always a totally new step up from the previous and hold a lot more depth
A half life episode bought over steam is worth a lot more than a booster pack, which just cons u into buying it so u can have 10 more unlocks, the ranking system has ruined the game but it brings people back, so EA just neglect the support side of things because they know people will keep on playing to pad their stats
And tbfh their actions should set a standard to the rest, without devs like them wed just have 10 EAs pumpings us for cash constantly, at least there are good game makers out there that really care about their communitys and repay them for buying their games as an example css costs money yeh thats true but valve deserve it...
the fact is people are loyal to these companies cos they listen to them, look after them and constantly give them something new for the game
on the other hand people are loyal to EA and bf cos of the stats
I thought we settled this earlier and decided to stop comparing it to Counter Strike.
Seriously shut up about CS because it was a completely different situation and they have nothing in common with the trends in gaming today.
Snuffy The Evil
02-01-2007, 02:36 AM
In my view, it seems to me we'll be getting less content for the same price.
Euro Force: I didn't buy this one, but from what I have seen and heard it had one new army, three maps, about 8 or more weapons, four vehicles and I don't know how many new static objects.
Armoured Fury: Eight more vehicles, three maps, and I don't know how many new static objects.
Now, let's go to Northern Strike
Two vehicles, three maps, one new army, and 10 more weapons, and few new static objects.
Less content, same price.
I'll wait to pass judgement until it actually comes out.
Tedno
02-01-2007, 06:49 AM
Now, let's go to Northern Strike
one new army
Yeah and what NEW army is this then?
Bottom line is it makes them money. And I can't play it longer than 10 minutes because it is BS to me. I have no issues with others liking it.
So basically because YOU don't like the game and you admit, don't play it often, you are somehow an authority on the developers that created it?
I don't know what cerial box you're getting info from but you're wrong on all accounts of the content released by Epic/Valve. You blatently have NO experience of the free content constantly handed out by the devs and community.
You also keep making a point that its the community that creates these things and the devs push them out as packs. Yes, that does happen sometimes but will that ever happen with BF2142? I'll tell you something for nothing, this community will NEVER be a patch on Epics/Valve because we are trapped in the confines of a crappy restrictive stat system, that controls how we play the game...
Vreki
02-01-2007, 10:02 AM
I'll tell you something for nothing, this community will NEVER be a patch on Epics/Valve because we are trapped in the confines of a crappy restrictive stat system, that controls how we play the game...
Personally I dislike the UT and CS series, but really like the gameplay in BF2142.
If you think that is caused by the "crappy restrictive stat system", then I am happy that we have it.
What has this do do we free content and the price of booster packs anyway?
Personally I dislike the UT and CS series, but really like the gameplay in BF2142.
If you think that is caused by the "crappy restrictive stat system", then I am happy that we have it.
What has this do do we free content and the price of booster packs anyway?
I think you have misunderstood my post completly, i'm not knocking the gameplay of BF2142 as i myself love playing it. The point was the community is suffering tremendously as any maps/mods that have real substance are not played to their full potential because there is no stat support for them.
Sure they give us the ability to create mods/maps but would you be willing to play them long term knowing it does not contribute to your unlocks/ranks/stats?
Vreki
02-01-2007, 10:43 AM
I think you have misunderstood my post completly, i'm not knocking the gameplay of BF2142 as i myself love playing it. The point was the community is suffering tremendously as any maps/mods that have real substance are not played to their full potential because there is no stat support for them.
Sure they give us the ability to create mods/maps but would you be willing to play them long term knowing it does not contribute to your unlocks/ranks/stats?
I will probably have to answer "no" if I want to be honest.
In BF2 I didn't move on to the mods (POE2) before I had stopped playing the core game. That was shortlived, because I joined the BF2142 beta shortly after that.
But I would probably have lost interest again anyway because of the lack of RPG like progress.
I know from other games that I need some kind of long term goal to keep me interested, otherwise they will grow old soon.
But not all the blame should fall on EA shoulders in this case, because we do have the option of playing community created content. We are just a bunch of sheeps.
Which is why the community is doomed to follow what EA/DICE want simply because if we don't, we lose the stat system. It's not the community being sheep, it's EA leaving us with an unfair choice.
(No biggy to me, but i could se the population drop drastically if it was to be taken away).
They could always stop stats for say a week and see if people still play ^_^
Vreki
02-01-2007, 11:01 AM
They could always stop stats for say a week and see if people still play ^_^
That would be nice, maybe I could get some work done around the house then :D
It occurred to me that we actually do get something for free.
The license to use the engine and the development tools are pretty common with modern games, but it is still a freebie.
What I would like to see is that EA/DICE held regular map contests. The winners will become ranked, and included in the next patch.
No new unlocks or vehicles would be allowed, to make sure that DICE still has a market for boosters and expansions.
I think that would be a realistic compromise. I also think that it wont happen :(
What I would like to see is that EA/DICE held regular map contests. The winners will become ranked, and included in the next patch.
No new unlocks or vehicles would be allowed, to make sure that DICE still has a market for boosters and expansions.
That is the BEST suggestion i have heard on this forum.
Arcalane
02-01-2007, 11:29 AM
As for the original post;
IGA crashed hard, from what I understand. The only advertiser they got was Intel, and I haven't seen any Intel adverts over here in the UK. The story might be different over there on your side of the pond, but EA/DICE were and are running a "submit your own billboard/poster" competition, which suggests to me that they want more filler material to try and make up for the lack thereof from the IGA failing.
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