View Full Version : Goliath
WetPatch
01-20-2007, 06:02 PM
Any news on this beast yet, i wana know what wepons it has. Or is gonna b a oversized APC which gets pwnd by walkers and tanks?
cc//Ollie90
01-20-2007, 06:11 PM
Not really any major details, apart from it's big and hopefully it will pwn.
some1one
01-20-2007, 06:21 PM
Well it heals and resupplys, acts as a spawn point and can repair it self I think.
For the way it has been described, it looks like the "uber" APC. Lots of machine guns and very slow.
Shellsh0cker
01-20-2007, 06:38 PM
I believe it's basically a tank designed to take out infantry instead of other tanks. Sort of like a cross between the APC and tank.
Deesies
01-20-2007, 06:48 PM
I hope the tanks or at least the walkers can kill it 1 on 1. I would hate to see them take the game in the direction of BF2 with stupidly overpowered pwnmobiles =/
cc//Ollie90
01-20-2007, 07:21 PM
I don't know if anyone remembers the leviathan from UT2004, it was like a huge slow apc with lots of guns and a super-powerful nuke ray thing, that could only be fired when the vhicle was stationary. Maybe it will be like that.
WetPatch
01-20-2007, 07:40 PM
I don't know if anyone remembers the leviathan from UT2004, it was like a huge slow apc with lots of guns and a super-powerful nuke ray thing, that could only be fired when the vhicle was stationary. Maybe it will be like that.
I remember that, could only fire the Ion Cannon when it was deployed.
We dont need another APC, and if it heals and supplys automaticly its gonna b a stat padders wet dream.
And if its big and slow and has no wepons to take out tanks and walkers its going to b the most pointless vehical in the game.
Im personally hope its gonna b a rail gun platform. Slow tracking turrets like the rouch rail gun.
Ugh, enough about stat padders, they can be detected -.-...If they OVER-Abuse the Goliath like you say they will.
WetPatch
01-20-2007, 08:13 PM
Ugh, enough about stat padders, they can be detected -.-...If they OVER-Abuse the Goliath like you say they will.
So u dont think a vehical which Heals, Supplys and Repairs its self isnt OTT, and if its the exact oppisit of the PAC vehical shouldnt it b a heavy hitter?
I imagine it has an extremely good weak point, wtf is OTT anyway?!
It is a heavy hitter, It shoots motion mines =P.
WetPatch
01-20-2007, 08:20 PM
0TT = over the top,
Ok i wana c where it says it heals, supplys, repairs and shoots motion mines.
I hope the tanks or at least the walkers can kill it 1 on 1. I would hate to see them take the game in the direction of BF2 with stupidly overpowered pwnmobiles =/
I have faith in DICE to create a balanced vehicle. Remember DICE's goal was to create a much more balanced game, this BP should fit right in. Not to mention I would guess that the numbers of these thing will be limited much like a walker. It also seems to be fitting into the niche that the BF2 APV was (right between a tank and a Humvee).
RYKUU
01-20-2007, 08:42 PM
well i always love useing big heavy vehicles
WetPatch
01-20-2007, 08:56 PM
I wouldnt mind a duel smoke/explosive grenade launcher though. Maybe even a force feild projecter thing where it u can advance troops behind it protected from enemy fire.
Cazzy
01-20-2007, 09:02 PM
I think it is almost akin to a ground based titan. Big size, many guns, and can resupply? I wanna drive!
Where it says? Dude look at it, theres a MOTION mine in its cannon.
Snooze
01-20-2007, 10:34 PM
They're an interview somewhere I think someone mentioned that all the guns on the Goliath aim only to one side of the vehicle leave the other side only defended by the troops using it as a wall.
Now if they put an drop pod cannon that can be aimed like a missile that would rock. Don't have to outrun those hover jeeps when you can just slam into them with a pod.
Thats a delicious idea =D.
The simpilist way to make this vehicle impossible to stats pad is to have the healing/resupply ability tied to the vehicle itself and not to the driver/passengers... so they don't get any points from these actions unless they happen to be a Medic/Support, in which case they'd be competing against the Goliath's abilities and get less points as a result \o/.
I hope that made some form of sense :/
warchester69
01-21-2007, 01:25 PM
i hope it has a McDonalds in the back.
And a cleaners to press my uniform and shine my boots.
Well my idea is maybe hence the name supply line one team controls the mobile spawn resupply heal, regenerate thingy and the other team must take it out to win.
Or im just off my trolley, stone mad:laugh: :laugh:
Rick Astley
01-21-2007, 01:27 PM
The simpilist way to make this vehicle impossible to stats pad is to have the healing/resupply ability tied to the vehicle itself and not to the driver/passengers... so they don't get any points from these actions unless they happen to be a Medic/Support, in which case they'd be competing against the Goliath's abilities and get less points as a result \o/.
I hope that made some form of sense :/
I think this will happen.:D DICE would be smart enough to avoid this kind of thing.
Flt. Sgt. Powderhound
01-21-2007, 02:12 PM
The simpilist way to make this vehicle impossible to stats pad is to have the healing/resupply ability tied to the vehicle itself and not to the driver/passengers... so they don't get any points from these actions unless they happen to be a Medic/Support, in which case they'd be competing against the Goliath's abilities and get less points as a result \o/.
I hope that made some form of sense :/
That's exactly how the halftrack APCs worked in BF1942- but back in the old days you didn't get points for resupply anyway
imlikeawarbird
01-21-2007, 02:37 PM
It has self healing armor - Spawn Point - Heals & Resupplies - Grenade launcher - Machine Guns
Digikid
01-21-2007, 03:11 PM
excuse me....I need to change my pants.
That is an EXCELLENT VEHICLE!
simjay
01-21-2007, 04:51 PM
That vehicle is gonna be sweet! I can see it now, rolling towards a flag with a handful of troops marching behind it or beside it. Pretty Intimidating.
PastaManiac
01-21-2007, 05:00 PM
That vehicle is gonna be sweet! I can see it now, rolling towards a flag with a handful of troops marching behind it or beside it. Pretty Intimidating.
Just...like APC's on berlin :)
l2edl2azor
01-21-2007, 07:31 PM
Both vehicles will drastically change the game play I'm sure.
Kraxis
01-21-2007, 09:10 PM
I think this will happen.:D DICE would be smart enough to avoid this kind of thing.
I would use the word should... We don't know yet and the ammo for Titanguns and the stationary guns were pretty bad mistakes in that regard. I hope you are right of course.
AgentOfDiscord
01-22-2007, 08:06 PM
I remember that, could only fire the Ion Cannon when it was deployed.
Singularity cannon <.<
WetPatch
01-23-2007, 04:57 PM
Negitive Singularity Cannon actually :)
RedDot
01-23-2007, 08:50 PM
I think a motion mine will be one of the weapons :p
mattyboi
01-23-2007, 09:19 PM
I think since the BP is based around infantry combat there wont be much armor on the levels, and I should think the gun turrets on the top will be enough to kill troops and the FAV but thats about it
I think since the BP is based around infantry combat there wont be much armor on the levels, and I should think the gun turrets on the top will be enough to kill troops and the FAV but thats about it
Must be why 2 new vehicles are coming.
Shellsh0cker
01-24-2007, 02:04 AM
I don't suppose anybody has noticed the name yet, have they? Goliath Heavy Infantry Fighting Vehicle? This WILL not be an anti-armor vehicle. Those are called tanks. It won't fire motion mines, it won't have railguns, it won't have any anti-armor capability. I'm pretty sure the recipe will go something like this:
Take 1 APC. Add a crapload of armor, replace the wheels with treads, and cut the speed in half, maybe more. Soup the guns up in an unknown manner so that they will own infantry in every way possible. Add one spawn point. Throw in resupply functionality, regenerative armor and maybe heal functionality (they didn't actually state this was going to happen, but if it's got resupply I bet it's got healing) and cook for two days at 4000 degrees. Celsius.
I don't suppose anybody has noticed the name yet, have they? Goliath Heavy Infantry Fighting Vehicle? This WILL not be an anti-armor vehicle. Those are called tanks. It won't fire motion mines, it won't have railguns, it won't have any anti-armor capability. I'm pretty sure the recipe will go something like this:
Take 1 APC. Add a crapload of armor, replace the wheels with treads, and cut the speed in half, maybe more. Soup the guns up in an unknown manner so that they will own infantry in every way possible. Add one spawn point. Throw in resupply functionality, regenerative armor and maybe heal functionality (they didn't actually state this was going to happen, but if it's got resupply I bet it's got healing) and cook for two days at 4000 degrees. Celsius.
It wont fire motion mines? Ah, that must be why theyre on it! Observant.
Kraxis
01-24-2007, 03:06 AM
I think since the BP is based around infantry combat there wont be much armor on the levels, and I should think the gun turrets on the top will be enough to kill troops and the FAV but thats about it
Well, Port Bavaria at least will feature the APC, since a screenshot is out with one where are guy pods from it onto the Titandock.
WetPatch
01-24-2007, 03:54 PM
I don't suppose anybody has noticed the name yet, have they? Goliath Heavy Infantry Fighting Vehicle? This WILL not be an anti-armor vehicle. Those are called tanks. It won't fire motion mines, it won't have railguns, it won't have any anti-armor capability. I'm pretty sure the recipe will go something like this:
Take 1 APC. Add a crapload of armor, replace the wheels with treads, and cut the speed in half, maybe more. Soup the guns up in an unknown manner so that they will own infantry in every way possible. Add one spawn point. Throw in resupply functionality, regenerative armor and maybe heal functionality (they didn't actually state this was going to happen, but if it's got resupply I bet it's got healing) and cook for two days at 4000 degrees. Celsius.
Great so il sit in a tank/walker 100 yards away and il do myself some mobile spawn killing ;)
Shellsh0cker
01-25-2007, 03:51 AM
It wont fire motion mines? Ah, that must be why theyre on it! Observant.
OK, sorry, yeah, I hadn't read the "Northern Strike FAQ" where he points them out. I was thinking more, y'know, logically.
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