Is it just me or what

[« R²» P§I]

I just started to play recently. Started with the free trial around xmas. Really started to play this week. Had some crash issues on start up that stopped me to play the game.

Anyways, Maybe I am just used to BF2 and all. Takes some time to learn the maps,weapons,etc.
But for the life of me I can not understand how the hell ppl killing me in just 1-3 shots. Shotgun I can understand,Sniper rifle, i also understand. But the other weapons seems like they kill me just like a sniper rifle would.

But if I am shooting someone it sometimes takes 1/2 a clip or more. If tried shooting in burst,that doesn't work either for me.

Maybe i just got to get the BF2 style out of my head and go read some tips on here.
Just wondering if anyone else has felt like this? Or maybe I just suck at 2142 hah.
Also I am sure if you have a good squad that has alot to do with it. But since most of our clan mates are sticking with BF2 that doesn't help the few of us that are playing 2142.
I see the Voss is the noob weapon of choice, is it over balanced or something?

[RYKUU]

the weapons are different like you said so they inflict different damages i found it hard to get used to

[WarGimp]

Something to remember is that almost everyone wears heavy armour all the time. Think of it like the support guys in BF2... it always took more to take 'em out.

As for squading up... yeah, we gotta get more of the guys involved, but Dguy, TYG, myself and a buddy all hooked up on a server the other night and had some great round. Teamwork rules in 2142!

[« R²» P§I]

Something to remember is that almost everyone wears heavy armour all the time. Think of it like the support guys in BF2... it always took more to take 'em out.


I noticed it doesnt really matter if you wear it or not, you die just as quick. I'll die with in 1-4 shots with or without armor

[WarGimp]

Well... I tend to die about the same with or without it too... but that's usually because I seem to take a lot of hits from vehicle cannons. :p

Naw, it does make a difference. About the same as in BF2. Don't forget that headshots still count too. I still try to aim at about the sternum area... it increases the chances of body hits while allowing for lucky head shots.

Of cource, it also depends a lot on what weapons you're using. The Engie's sub-machinegun doesn't hit very hard, while the assaultrifles pack more of a punch. The LMGs don't seem to do a whole lot more damage than the assaultrifles, but they can really chuck out a hoard 'o lead.

[SpLiTz]

I notice that if I'm moving vs standing still that my livelihood is increased. Same with close up shots vs distance (cept for sniper rifle).

[LahLahSr]

I think that sometimes it looks like you're being killed in 1-3 shots, but in reality they are spending half a clip as well.

I can hold my own in firefights - barely lol - but it always seems that way to me as well. I just think it looks that way and there really is no real clue or indication about exactly how many bullets you are really struck by.

[vbl]

Remember that the client:server lag in this game is pretty bad. You might think you fired 4-8 shots at a guy, but in reality he killed you before you fired.

You can see the effects a few ways.

1) Shoot at an enemy and stop firing before you see him die but after you think you've fired enough bullets to kill him - there will be a delay between the time you stop firing and the time he actually dies. Mastering this judgment call is a key skill in being a really mean shooter, especially on maps like Gibraltar where you bump into clumps of 3-4 people. If you continue to fire at someone until you see them die it'll be too late to start on the next target, and you'll probably be too low on ammo to follow through.

2) Run around a corner at your friend, and start shooting at him. Have him start shooting at you a moment later. On your screen you'll fire and kill him before he shoots, but on his screen he will have fired several rounds at you before dying.

Initiative counts for everything, so the best thing to do is either be very methodical and patient, dismantling defenses and bad guys incrementally, or be very bold and unpredictable, such as crashing corners. It's particularly easy to be evasive with the engineer SMG since it retains much of its accuracy on the move, so you can crouch and strafe throughout the entire firefight, making it really hard to hit you.

The key element is to always fight on your terms.

One of my favorite ways to mess with someone goes like this:

I arrive at a silo, and as I round a corner I see a bad guy nestled in between some crates. I know he saw me because he was facing me when I first came into view.

Instead of stopping and shooting him I will continue to sprint past, knowing full well that he'll think I didn't see him and that he has the drop on me. He'll be expecting to come around the corner and have all day to shoot me.

In reality I've turned the corner and then flipped around. Then I run back the way I came and blast him the face when he least expects it.

Light armor's extended sprint is ridiculously useful for avoiding fire. Have you ever tried to shoot someone running at full sprint perpendicular to you? It's hard. Really hard. As such, I've been experimenting with light armor lately and using the extra mobility to leverage the difficulty in hitting a sprinting target. If I see someone who has the drop on me, I turn 90 degrees to him and haul *** to some cover where I can fight on my terms.

With enough room to run and enough cover to use I survive better than I do in heavy armor. It also makes dancing with vehicles significantly easier.

Of course, the close quarters of the Titan require heavy armor since the combat is so intimate.

[Vikaman]

The weapons are designed in a different way, and they seem different.
And the crosshairs put me off when i first played it.

[« R²» P§I]

Thanks for the tips vbl alot does make since. Didnt even think about the client/server lag.

vika yeah the crosshairs has done the same thing to me. I swear I am doing head shots.
I useally go for the top of the sternum to make up for the recoil to get a head shot.

But again i was a L85A1 user on bf2 and was deadly with it while most people hated the gun. I might just have to find what suits me the best. It will take alot of deaths to figure that out. Hell its only a game, hah

[Vikaman]

Yeah, the fact that they were all dot scopes... AFAIK, really was wierd...

But for real easy play, use the VOSS, Assault right side unlock.
TO get close and personal, use the Clark (shotgun, duh...)

:)

[natasbotox]

Yeah, the fact that they were all dot scopes... AFAIK, really was wierd...

But for real easy play, use the VOSS, Assault right side unlock.
TO get close and personal, use the Clark (shotgun, duh...)

:)


QFT ;) The voss was the last gun I unlocked, should have been the first. It's often called a 'noob' gun, but really its just the easiest gun to use in the game, and perfect for someone new. But if I could marry a gun, the clark would be my bride. it takes some getting used to, but fun as hell to run into 3-4 enemies and "pop pop pop" just drop them all with the clark without even reloading.... plus the sound effects on the clark are awesome.

[Vikaman]

Hey, natasbotox, I joined the server you were on, but I lagged a lot. :(

Sorry, Offtopic.

[mrsnype]

I felt the same way when I made the switch from BF2. Its a different game and yes, LAG, does play a huge different, especially on 48P Titan maps. Saty mobile, sprint and run, people hate that - then attack when they reload or switch to sidearm.

[« R²» P§I]

Well i got 4 unlocks saved, maybe i will jump on the bandwagon and try the voss. But i just hate to waste a unlock on the smoke grenades. But the clark is tempting.

[WarGimp]

I'm prolly gonna go for the Clark next.
I miss my shotty!

[natasbotox]

Hey, natasbotox, I joined the server you were on, but I lagged a lot. :(

Sorry, Offtopic.

Aw man.. thanks for trying. If you are still playing in a month or so, I'll be living in Shanghai so, I'll be on the asian servers then. :)

[« R²» P§I]

I'm prolly gonna go for the Clark next.
I miss my shotty!

True but I was thinking, you know me Wargimpy, i like to get close and person with a knife :laugh: So i might wait on the Clark:hmm:
I didnt need a goal of dog tags to knife someone.

[WarGimp]

You'd have loved the double knife kill I got earlier tonight. A sniper and a support dude hinding in some rocks... had my squad pinned. I managed a break and flanked 'em. They made very good meat-sheaths.
;)

You might wanna go for the fully auto recon weapon, tho. I know when you're close, you like to stick 'em. The optical cammo would give ya a nasty advantage.

[« R²» P§I]

Yeah i do have those unlocks, they work well. The cammo is good, at time. The Lambert Carbine is taken some time to get use to, But it seems when the Lambert vs Voss, Voss gets me everytime.

[MouseNo4]

The funny thing with the difference between bf2 and bf2142 is that i was barely average at bf2, getting middle ground on the ingame ladder. Barely keeping a 1.00 k/d ratio. I played for months and months and barely managed to get 4-5 silver badges. After every round i pat myself on the back if i managed a k/d ratio of 1.00.

Now with bf2142, i totally own the entire server. I am ALWAYS in the top 10 with 1 in 3 chance of being in the medals for every round. Unless i am specifically doing something for badges, ribbons or medals. I have the last obtainable rank and with that, all the unlocks. I have 3/4 of all the badges, medals and ribbons and have only been playing for 2 months. For every round i pat myself on the back if i manage to get THREE TIMES my deaths for a k/d ratio of 3.00!!! I dont understand why i do so well in this game when i sucked sooo bad in bf2.

[natasbotox]

Mouse do you play on Rubberducky?

[MouseNo4]

Wtf is that?

[Vikaman]

A server.

[natasbotox]

heh.. nevermind... I saw someone playing earlier on rubberducky with some variation of 'mouse' as their nick.. thought it might be you.

(Rubberducky is a 64 man titan server.)

[MouseNo4]

Oh, well no. I have like 4-5 variations of servers. Indernode's collection of servers, Gamearena's collection (sadly), mental players, iconz collection of servers and 1 or 2 others.

Rarely ever play on anything else.

But keep in mind, that i am aussie, so i dont (thankfully) play on amerikan servers.

[Vikaman]

Natasbotox, play on EA TH server, thats the ones I am always on, S94 is the server code.

[Wasp]

I just started to play recently. Started with the free trial around xmas. Really started to play this week. Had some crash issues on start up that stopped me to play the game.

Anyways, Maybe I am just used to BF2 and all. Takes some time to learn the maps,weapons,etc.
But for the life of me I can not understand how the hell ppl killing me in just 1-3 shots. Shotgun I can understand,Sniper rifle, i also understand. But the other weapons seems like they kill me just like a sniper rifle would.

But if I am shooting someone it sometimes takes 1/2 a clip or more. If tried shooting in burst,that doesn't work either for me.

Maybe i just got to get the BF2 style out of my head and go read some tips on here.
Just wondering if anyone else has felt like this? Or maybe I just suck at 2142 hah.
Also I am sure if you have a good squad that has alot to do with it. But since most of our clan mates are sticking with BF2 that doesn't help the few of us that are playing 2142.
I see the Voss is the noob weapon of choice, is it over balanced or something?

I played a lot of BF2 and it took some time getting used to 2142. One of the differences is that most of the weapons have a bigger spread. So the crosshair is only useful at very short distances. The crosshair also sux like in all BF games. You could ride a camel through it.

The best way to use most rifles is to be quick with the scope. I use it on anything above 20 meters. For 40 - 50 meters or more it's best to switch to single shot. The Baur is my favourite on a distance because you can fire in a fast interval and land most shots. Also the rifles do less damage than BF2 so get used to spending more rounds.

I have a similar experience to what MouseNo4 mentioned earlier. I do better in BF2142 than BF2. Partly because the arty isn't as deadly ofcourse. ;) I went from 2.85 K/D to 3.47 and 90% of it is from inf weapons. I play all kits and weapons and especially the little engineer gun is a great improvement from BF2.

[RottnJP]

Well i got 4 unlocks saved, maybe i will jump on the bandwagon and try the voss. But i just hate to waste a unlock on the smoke grenades. But the clark is tempting.

I stayed away from the Voss for just that reason, (I do miss my Lav-25 and smoke launcher tho :D ) but when I finally got the Voss I wished I had done so much earlier- For me, it makes the Assault kit much more fun. (I'm decently accurate, so I'd get frustrated at the less accurate default rifles, esp. the scar 11.) With the Voss, just put the dot on the sternum, and the light recoil pulls you right up to the head. Big enough magazine to get 3 kills per clip if you're reasonably careful, and a minimum of 2 even if you're not a great shot at all. And the defib and med hub are great to have, anyway.

[OF]RottnJP

[RottnJP]

Yeah i do have those unlocks, they work well. The cammo is good, at time. The Lambert Carbine is taken some time to get use to, But it seems when the Lambert vs Voss, Voss gets me everytime.

It should- I love the carbine, but it does lose accuracy and damage faster (at a shorter range) than the Voss, which is appropriate for carbine vs. assault rifle. (think M-4 vs. M16A2, if you like the real world)

That having been said, the Lambert's light recoil and accuracy are great- That was one of my first "primary weapon" upgrades, and it was great to be able to put a burst at a moving target and actually kill it!

Cheers,

[OF]RottnJP

[The_Eliminator]

The Voss is a very powerful weapon and although i have mastered both and people say the Baur is better, IMO, the voss > baur.

It also took me a while to get used to the guns in this game, but it will be harder for you as when i started everyone was a noob like me but you have come in late and people already know very well how to use the weapons.

[nosoupforyou]

when i first played it it took me a bit to get into it and i couldnt get how noobsss asses were firing full auto at me when i was bursting and crouching/ lying down while there standing up but they still killed me.

tip 1 - dont lie down - takes a long time to readjust the sights
tip 2 - crouch :)

i used voss when i played and i found 2 round burts were just awesome if u aimed for the head, good thing is you can pop out of cover and fire now whereas in bf2 a support guy would jump prone and kill you 2 shots :(

and with my learning style i dont ever seem to progress for a bit, few games and nothing, but the next night- boy was i awesome when it happened :)

keep practising mate, hope you get it :) (come back to bf2, its better =p)

[« R²» P§I]

when i first played it it took me a bit to get into it and i couldnt get how noobsss asses were firing full auto at me when i was bursting and crouching/ lying down while there standing up but they still killed me.

tip 1 - dont lie down - takes a long time to readjust the sights
tip 2 - crouch :)

i used voss when i played and i found 2 round burts were just awesome if u aimed for the head, good thing is you can pop out of cover and fire now whereas in bf2 a support guy would jump prone and kill you 2 shots :(

and with my learning style i dont ever seem to progress for a bit, few games and nothing, but the next night- boy was i awesome when it happened :)

keep practising mate, hope you get it :) (come back to bf2, its better =p)

heh thanks all for the tips.

Yeah BF2 is better i agree, but I was in need for a change. I wouldn't have imagined that 2142 would be so much different.

This is what will happen, after i get the hag of 2142, ill go to BF2 and be all messed upped :laugh:

[nosoupforyou]

heh thanks all for the tips.

Yeah BF2 is better i agree, but I was in need for a change. I wouldn't have imagined that 2142 would be so much different.

This is what will happen, after i get the hag of 2142, ill go to BF2 and be all messed upped :laugh:

watch the greandes when u go back, u throw them much quicker lol, tis quite funny actually but really gay.

Also i found in bf2142 i nearly always zoomed in with my gun lol, not sure why but i found it so unaffective unzoomed but amazing zoomed :S unless really really close.

[« R²» HKS]

Your thread is not enticing me to play PSI. :p

[Vyshus]

The only advice I have to offer is ALWAYS use your scope unless you have one of those "where did he come from?" moments. The dot is way better than the crosshairs and you also have the increased accuracy. It did wonders for me in CQC and I'm sure it will improve your weapon knowledge faster than unscoped methods.

[nosoupforyou]

The only advice I have to offer is ALWAYS use your scope unless you have one of those "where did he come from?" moments. The dot is way better than the crosshairs and you also have the increased accuracy. It did wonders for me in CQC and I'm sure it will improve your weapon knowledge faster than unscoped methods.

ah gdgd so its not just me who finds the scope invaluable compared to bf2 weapons..

bf2 weapons pwned without scope :)

[Shellsh0cker]

Really? I find I use the scope a lot less than I did in BF2.

Anyway, yeah. Everybody was a prone spammer if BF2 (you died if you weren't), but in 2142 it doesn't pay off . . . the sights take QUITE a while to readjust, crouching has helped my gameplay a lot.

[nosoupforyou]

Really? I find I use the scope a lot less than I did in BF2.

Anyway, yeah. Everybody was a prone spammer if BF2 (you died if you weren't), but in 2142 it doesn't pay off . . . the sights take QUITE a while to readjust, crouching has helped my gameplay a lot.

nah, the fact that everyone was a prone spammer is what made it easyish in a way. Because 99% of people would go prone at any range at any time if they so much as see someone, means u can play it to your advantage.

I was very fond of popping out of cover and straight back in (only g36e had any real chance of gettin me lol) and then i would jump back out with the sideways dive jump or just crouch and shoot the prone guy in the head. Or shoot him as he attempts to get back on his feet =p Grenades were useful vs the idiots who would just carry on shooting, chuck one then start shooting.

The problem was that people were sooos stupid in that game. See enemy and lie down no matter where u are, like in the middle of a street. they wouldnt last2 seconds in real life lol. But what really hacks me off is when i nade someone and they still carry on shooting lol

[« R²» P§I]

Your thread is not enticing me to play PSI. :p


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