View Full Version : Controlling the Goliath
Wizrdwarts
01-23-2007, 10:05 PM
Are we going to be able to actually drive it or have it controlled by the commander like the titan?
whitehunter
01-23-2007, 10:38 PM
im betting we are going to drive it
RYKUU
01-23-2007, 10:47 PM
i like other people cant wait to give it a go
FlamingPenguin
01-24-2007, 01:13 AM
Are we going to be able to actually drive it or have it controlled by the commander like the titan?
It looks like a new kind of APC so...control it
Cryptik
01-24-2007, 02:47 AM
Hmmm.... New APC being driven around by infantry..... no..... we cant drive it of corse not. -.-
Rick Astley
01-24-2007, 07:44 AM
Nah, i think Commander will control it. And other guys will be able to go into guns, just like the Titan.
so1id sn@ke
01-24-2007, 09:20 AM
How will we supply ammo and health to others while in the goliath? Do we shoot crates? Because if they have to get close like an ammo box, think what a TK liability THAT would be! Worse then the transport, no matter how slow it is!
Sneaky Assassin
01-24-2007, 10:53 AM
As long as they enhance the turning circle from the APC's, they are horendous.
AgentOfDiscord
01-24-2007, 11:29 AM
Mebbe they'll let tracked vehicles turn on the spot...?
...Yeah, dream on...
Rick Astley
01-24-2007, 02:19 PM
How will we supply ammo and health to others while in the goliath? Do we shoot crates? Because if they have to get close like an ammo box, think what a TK liability THAT would be! Worse then the transport, no matter how slow it is!
You get auto ammo and health when standing close to a Goliath. The Goliath is slow and turns slow i guess so people have enough time to get back. And maybe the thing is so slow that you can't drive someone over.
MouseNo4
01-24-2007, 06:12 PM
For one, the vehicle itself will have a healing and resupplying aura when its occupied and repair itself very slowly. So you would just get in it as engie to have 100% points coming your way.
And two, a vehicle dont even have to be moving to kill you. You can sprint to one and whack into the side and die. Or you can bail from a vehicle, have it roll up to a wall, then attempt to jump over the vehicle between it and the wall and die.
Rick Astley
01-24-2007, 06:34 PM
And two, a vehicle dont even have to be moving to kill you. You can sprint to one and whack into the side and die. Or you can bail from a vehicle, have it roll up to a wall, then attempt to jump over the vehicle between it and the wall and die.
Never saw that happen. BTW: You must be VERY stupid to do that. I think you can't jump over the Goliath, because it's 10 metres high. Maybe the thing has some back entrance you can get into and has consoles like the Titan, removes the ability to bail and die.
But this is just speculation, of course.
Lokismischief
01-24-2007, 06:58 PM
I picture the scene from the first Austin Powers movie. Some poor soldier standing infront of the crawling-ly-slow Goliath screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" for 5 minutes before being ran over and TK'd.
Painmaker
01-24-2007, 07:13 PM
ROFL! Just what i thought!
venny
01-25-2007, 07:51 AM
aww, no vehicle drop still? lol!
aww, no vehicle drop still? lol!
Think we can do without cartillery here :p
GIJLowe
01-25-2007, 08:33 AM
I think you can't jump over the Goliath, because it's 10 metres high. Maybe the thing has some back entrance you can get into and has consoles like the Titan, removes the ability to bail and die.
But this is just speculation, of course.
haha, yeah a Titan with treads.
No, but seriously, from the pictures, it definitely does not look 10 meters high, it looks basically like a slightly bigger, treaded, beefier APC with some extra abilities. Even walkers aren't 10 meters high.
It's a VEHICLE, of course soldiers will be able to drive it. It's not a commander asset.
David Champion
01-25-2007, 01:33 PM
aww, no vehicle drop still? lol!
In the 22nd Century you can't get vehicle drops and you can't walk over a 2 inch lip of rubble or rock without jumping, just not possible :)
I'd love to see vehicle drops in 2142 but I think you'd end up with cars being dropped on the Titan and poeple using them for other than intended.
directx10
01-26-2007, 11:33 AM
i wanna see how the PAC hover car can match this in power
I'd love to see vehicle drops in 2142 but I think you'd end up with cars being dropped on the Titan and poeple using them for other than intended.
LOL^^
Kraazon
01-26-2007, 11:49 AM
Maybe you will be able to get in it and move around free like on he Titan so you can use your normal weapons but shoot out of holes etc as well a drive and get on gun emplacements etc
<3 aroastchicken
01-26-2007, 01:17 PM
Rumour has it that they will re-introduce vehicle drops, except this time you'l find the Goliath sailing down in one big-*** mother****in' parachute.
Seriously though. It better not take more than 5 C7's to blow up. Because that sounds damn impossible to take down.
muninn
01-26-2007, 01:37 PM
Hopefully its commander controlled because if its something anyone can jump in to and rake up the kill damage assists all round, ppl are going to be stepping over their own mothers to get in one (ie TK).
Leemus
01-26-2007, 03:34 PM
I'm geting a hunch that it will be playuer controlled. by some lucky person. Although i doubg they wilol get the relupply/heal points rfom it for surrounding infantry.
Possibly to counter the ET:QW vehicle, but i dont relly care i love 2142.
Blame extra dry for this post.
David Champion
01-26-2007, 04:01 PM
Word on the street is the Goliath is much like the APC, Just Heavier Armor and the armor regenerates.
So 6 slots one main controller to control movement and 5 slots with little turrets/guns like the APC.
Heck you get a good crew with Support, Medics and some Engineers both in the IFV and in a APC behind you man that'd be a force to reckon with I bet.
Painmaker
01-26-2007, 04:36 PM
Well I think its player controlled. ;)
It has to be. For sure man! Its just an APC-tank cross thingie..:laugh:
Rick Astley
01-26-2007, 06:09 PM
haha, yeah a Titan with treads.
No, but seriously, from the pictures, it definitely does not look 10 meters high, it looks basically like a slightly bigger, treaded, beefier APC with some extra abilities. Even walkers aren't 10 meters high.
It's a VEHICLE, of course soldiers will be able to drive it. It's not a commander asset.
HAHAHAHAHAAHHA!!!!! OMFG!:laugh: :laugh:
Sorry, i just had to laugh about this!:laugh:
Of course it's not 10 metres high, but high enough not to jump over!
And did i say it was a Titan on threads? NO All i sayed was maybe some consoles type of thing to control the MGs. Otherwise you get TK of course. Or how about the newbie that doesn't want his team to win and refuses to move the Goliath i have had enough people not driving an APC. And i'm in the Mortar waiting 12 minutes yelling over the chat to move!
Erhardt
01-26-2007, 07:25 PM
Hopefully its commander controlled because if its something anyone can jump in to and rake up the kill damage assists all round, ppl are going to be stepping over their own mothers to get in one (ie TK).
eh... I doubt it'll be that bad. It'll be the usual first-come, first served arrangement just like a regular APC... nobody is going to have to actually slug it out for a seat. If it's already full, you're walking. Simple. :)
Digikid
01-27-2007, 03:27 AM
sounds like Skunk_2142 will have a blast with this new vehicle.
"Those who use the Goliath will be perma-banned"
:disgust;
mikeon
01-27-2007, 05:20 AM
Will it float in water? :P
I'm hoping it has enough space to crawl underneath so I can stick stuff under the vehicle when the enemy is in it. Oh and gotta find those weak spots for the pilum to shoot up!
so1id sn@ke
01-27-2007, 05:41 AM
Word on the street is the Goliath is much like the APC, Just Heavier Armor and the armor regenerates.
So 6 slots one main controller to control movement and 5 slots with little turrets/guns like the APC.
Heck you get a good crew with Support, Medics and some Engineers both in the IFV and in a APC behind you man that'd be a force to reckon with I bet.
All I'm saying is that it BETTER not break the balance, and it better not leave PAC with a raw deal in the hachimoto. A recon or engi with reasonable skill better be able to take it down. :mad:
On an off note, I wish I could talk to people on the street about 2142 and not have them think I'm bonkers. ;)
Kannon
01-27-2007, 08:42 AM
Be funny to see someone use the goliath to jihad. 5 sticks of RDX drive into a base and boom!
so1id sn@ke
01-28-2007, 12:08 AM
It'd be just like jihad APC, a slow, indestrucable column of RDX comin you're way....except it would regenerate after....well, if it's still in 1 piece. :p
ShadowX8001
01-28-2007, 01:14 AM
crapppppppp
Talus
01-28-2007, 01:20 AM
Nobody had better be breaking NDA here...
Kibax
01-28-2007, 02:36 AM
Glad to see the admins are enforcing regulation.
so1id sn@ke
01-28-2007, 03:34 AM
NDA? What's that mean?
Talus
01-28-2007, 03:58 AM
Exactly...those that DO know what it means are ignoring it completely and will find themselves in a heap of trouble.
Dr_Zyklon
01-28-2007, 04:10 AM
You drive it! And you can stand in front of it and run backwards and it won't hurt you....its that slow. U run faster than it!
you can walk faster than it, thats how slow it really is :laugh:
MouseNo4
01-28-2007, 10:18 AM
NDA's mean little to people these days. Thought people like you would know that from the numerous times people have broken them.
Talus
01-28-2007, 01:20 PM
Yes...but it is still a legal matter....back on topic, please? I believe we were talking about the Goliath...
so1id sn@ke
01-28-2007, 02:56 PM
Umm....you misunderstood, I was actually asking what it meant lol.
Sorry if it's a noob question.
MouseNo4
01-28-2007, 02:59 PM
NDA? Non-Disclosure Agreement. Basically, you sign a peice of paper that states that you agree not to regurgitate any information or product to anyone or anywhere without prior written consent - otherwise legal action will be taken and such people will be dealt with. Apparently.
And yes, the goliath is the topic of discussion. Apparently.
Vreki
01-28-2007, 03:01 PM
sn@ke;246794]Umm....you[/email] misunderstood, I was actually asking what it meant lol.
Sorry if it's a noob question.
Non Disclosure Agreement.
A contract that prevents you from sharing information with the public
Hurricane
01-28-2007, 03:11 PM
I really doubt EA and DICE would be arsed to carry out a bunch of lawsuits. I mean come on, it's EA. Too much money to be spent on getting too little money in return. Still, just be nice and don't break the NDA =) let's be surprised.
so1id sn@ke
01-28-2007, 03:14 PM
NDA? Non-Disclosure Agreement. Basically, you sign a peice of paper that states that you agree not to regurgitate any information or product to anyone or anywhere without prior written consent - otherwise legal action will be taken and such people will be dealt with. Apparently.
And yes, the goliath is the topic of discussion. Apparently.
Non Disclosure Agreement.
A contract that prevents you from sharing information with the public
Oh, I see. Thanks for the heads-up.
I can't wait to drive it.
Kibax
01-28-2007, 03:37 PM
I can't wait to drive it.
:laugh: That made me laugh.
:laugh: That made me laugh.
lawl ;)
ShadowX8001
01-28-2007, 04:01 PM
Oh crap am I not supposed to say? I was just trying to help out; :(
Cicchetti
01-28-2007, 04:03 PM
Yeah, dude for your own sake keep your mouth shut lmao
netwrok
01-28-2007, 06:51 PM
Great, another slow vehicle to really spice up the game play. wtg
Vreki
01-28-2007, 06:56 PM
Great, another slow vehicle to really spice up the game play. wtg
This is just guesswork, because I am not in the Beta. But if it gets removed we will know I was right ;)
If the slow speed thing is correct, then I imagine that the role of the Goliath is more of a mobile base than a traditional vehicle.
It will slowly approach the enemy's base, while the enemy tries to fight it of.
gamefoo
01-28-2007, 07:00 PM
Cant wait for the asshat that drives it to a useless location. This is gonna be fun!
iDash
01-28-2007, 07:45 PM
Well, I hope its slower than the tank,
I cant keep it on the road!
so1id sn@ke
01-28-2007, 08:02 PM
I wonder how much RDX it'll take.....
Oh and nice sig iDash! :laugh:
Wormhole
01-28-2007, 08:05 PM
I wonder how much RDX it'll take.....
Oh and nice sig iDash! :laugh:
Not saying the actual number but, a lot :)
iDash
01-28-2007, 08:23 PM
I believe, It cant be blown up!
Thanks,
The Cartoon picture is the best I have ever seen of the B888!
I reskinned it, years ago!
alot,
It had a big bomb in it too, right beside him!
so1id sn@ke
01-28-2007, 08:38 PM
Not saying the actual number but, a lot :)
It cant be blown up!
So......
TigerRei
01-30-2007, 12:00 AM
Well I did notice something in one of the screenshots they released:
Source(http://battlefield.ea.com/battlefield/bf/BF2142_News_011907_2.aspx)
http://battlefield.ea.com/battlefield/bf/images/BF2142NSpcSCRNwwBOP2.jpg
Doesnt look like an APC to me.
http://battlefield.ea.com/battlefield/bf/images/BF2142NSpcSCRNwwBOP3.jpg
Another pic of it. What I'm wondering is, what are those things on the side?
punkrockermsr
01-30-2007, 01:02 AM
Maybe they are power supplies and if you destroy them the goliath explodes? Im guessing they are just for looking good though.
Chewy_Solo
01-30-2007, 01:37 AM
Maybe they are power supplies and if you destroy them the goliath explodes? Im guessing they are just for looking good though.
or maybe they are rsponsible for the armor regen? i hope u can destroy them if they are...... just speculation cuz im not in it either :mad: i wish i was
Whiteplague
01-30-2007, 01:43 AM
On an off note, I wish I could talk to people on the street about 2142 and not have them think I'm bonkers. ;)
LOL i talk to people in my school about it and theyre just like
whatever... y0u cr4zy /\/00b
Be funny to see someone use the goliath to jihad. 5 sticks of RDX drive into a base and boom!
AHAHAHAH wait im not done AHAHAHAHAHHA ROFLBBQ! you wish.... :p
im in so i know... and im not sayin a word....(other than haha you wish)
Buttoneer
01-30-2007, 04:39 PM
I bet the weapons are destroyed separately like on the Titan. if the vehicle is that powerful, it would certainly make sense.
AJED (G.Drew)
01-30-2007, 05:46 PM
How will we supply ammo and health to others while in the goliath? Do we shoot crates? Because if they have to get close like an ammo box, think what a TK liability THAT would be! Worse then the transport, no matter how slow it is!
the thing doesnt go THAT fast!
will there be sufficent armour on it to make it last the entire match/long enough?
Kibax
01-30-2007, 07:10 PM
will there be sufficent armour on it to make it last the entire match/long enough?
Learn to read, no one can tell you.
Wizrdwarts
02-02-2007, 01:33 AM
So I'm guessing the Goliath travels slow enough just to "push" you if you're in front of it?
How will we supply ammo and health to others while in the goliath? Do we shoot crates? Because if they have to get close like an ammo box, think what a TK liability THAT would be! Worse then the transport, no matter how slow it is!
APC Driver: Lets rush these mofos!
I Need ammo guy: Oh, Goliath is over there... *RUNS*
APC Driver: You crazy F**ker, get out of the way.
I Need ammo guy: OMMYGAWD, ITS COMING RIGHT FOR ME.
*Goliath moves increasingly closer at 5 mph*
*I Need ammo guy has been run over by APC Driver*
^_^
Lt. Orth
02-03-2007, 04:21 AM
Admin, you do know the beta has been released right? And the NDA is no longer applicable correct? Basically, I know my law, so if they uterred it, they would not be liable, and they could be speaking on behalf of the legal issue, therefore, you got a HUGE countersuit, lmfao, aka, EA OWNZERD, lol, and heck, i'll advocate the guy, law student now, law major tomorrow, muhahahaha, no, not REALLY tomorrow, :(. I love law, and how easily you can manipulate it ^____^. It's like chess. And I suck at chess :(.
so1id sn@ke
02-03-2007, 09:19 AM
APC Driver: Lets rush these mofos!
I Need ammo guy: Oh, Goliath is over there... *RUNS*
APC Driver: You crazy F**ker, get out of the way.
I Need ammo guy: OMMYGAWD, ITS COMING RIGHT FOR ME.
*Goliath moves increasingly closer at 5 mph*
*I Need ammo guy has been run over by APC Driver*
^_^
LOL! :laugh:
*o* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!.......Huff.....Huff.. .....OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.......OOOOOOOO!
Crisis
02-03-2007, 10:28 PM
Maybe you will be able to get in it and move around free like on he Titan so you can use your normal weapons but shoot out of holes etc as well a drive and get on gun emplacements etc
I really hope not, the Battlefield engine is struggling as it is :(
Lt. Orth
02-04-2007, 12:16 AM
I really hope not, the Battlefield engine is struggling as it is :(
Yes, incredibly.
Lt. Orth
02-04-2007, 12:18 AM
Not to mention imagine it full of people, and an enemy tosses a grenade in, imagine the kills :S. Also, imagine a noob trying to toss a grenade out of it, but somehow manages to land it inside the goliath, the TK's would stack up majorly.
Samtheman53
02-04-2007, 12:43 AM
anyone can get in it and control it its just a mega slow apc with regenerating armor
McDutchy
02-05-2007, 01:36 AM
The bluish rings on the outside of the Goliath are most likely shield generators. In the 1.19b patch, if you apply it and explore a bit in the mods/bf2142/vehicles_bp1_client.zip there are files with names of 'ifv_shield.bundlemesh', 'ifv_shieldgenerators.bundlemesh', and several others relating to an 'IFV' shield.
PotteryBarnMk2
02-05-2007, 02:34 AM
It reminds me of the Leviathan from UT2004.
Mr.Bubbles43
02-05-2007, 03:11 AM
don't let on i said this, but it is controlled by a strong man who pulls it with his teeth Its a knew kit very hush hush
Whiteplague
02-05-2007, 03:23 AM
lol like those crazy people do on TV some times, you have a strange thought there
Badboris_uk
02-08-2007, 02:27 PM
lol like those crazy people do on TV some times, you have a strange thought there
I once saw a guy in Cambodia pulling an 8 ton truck full of people with a rope tied around his scrotum.
I don't know what kinda crazy monk he was, but god-damn that guy was a mentalist.
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