New unlocks from 1.19b patch [Archive]

kamikaze cow

02-02-2007, 10:25 PM

Looks like they added the weapons into the game :) Just gotta figure out how to unlock them (unlocks mod anyone?) here are some screenshots. This isnt from the NS beta (i dont have it :( ) but from the new patch, so no nda break here :)

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1257/screen019jb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3068/screen020wr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7205/screen021ic5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8918/screen022eg7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7717/screen023zn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9285/bfhqunlockszi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Just wish i could get the new beta patch to work :( anyone else getting modified content errors? I got these from single player, so i cant use field upgrades :(

UPDATE: I got descriptions to work! yay!!

Update 2: Ok after one round of titan mode (those optimizations did nothing...), ive gotten some screenys of the new clark.
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2227/screen028jz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6288/screen031tb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
It works just like the assault rifle rockets, but stick to the walls and stuff and detonates a couple seconds afterwords. It only really seemed to be effective in a titan cqc situation.

AJED (G.Drew)

02-02-2007, 10:35 PM

i cant get it working because it says i need to download the booster pack from EA downloader

The_Eliminator

02-02-2007, 10:37 PM

I cant even install it because it says "You have a greater version than this patch".

Kalo

02-02-2007, 10:46 PM

Where did you find this 19.b?

nutcrackr

02-02-2007, 10:49 PM

Nice, too bad they left the descriptions out :p

kamikaze cow

02-02-2007, 10:51 PM

I cant even install it because it says "You have a greater version than this patch".
I got that too, because i got a patching failed thing, and when i started it again it was really screwd up... anyway, to fix it, u gotta do some reg editing. Go to start, run, regedit, then open up hkey_local_machine, the open software, then look for EA GAMES (not electronic arts) and open that up, then click battlefield 2142. You should see a bunch of files on the right side, one of them is called version. Right click on it and select modify. In the value data type in 1.10. That should let u install the patch

Nice, too bad they left the descriptions out :p

Well you can guess from the 2 word description thats already there. Recon gets a decoy (beacon?) and Assault gets a radar grenade (i would assume that you throw it and when it detonates it gives off one uav pulse radar circle?) Engi gets motion mine bait (self explanatory) and support gets a new shotgun (explosive shotgun?) and a sonar (pds for infantry?) The new player ability's are anyones guess though... a shoe and a clock? (Faster sprint, and....bullet time? lol)

Kalo

02-02-2007, 10:53 PM

It'd be nice to find out where to DL it cause it looks like 2.0 and 1.9b is different? :\

kamikaze cow

02-02-2007, 11:01 PM

It'd be nice to find out where to DL it cause it looks like 2.0 and 1.9b is different? :\

1.19b is the 2.0 beta :)

nutcrackr

02-02-2007, 11:03 PM

They named it 1.19b because I'm fairly sure you will be able to patch up to 1.2 when it releases instead of backing up your directory etc.

edddgar

02-02-2007, 11:13 PM

So can we unlock and play the new unlocks in this patch?

If so, where can I download?

kamikaze cow

02-02-2007, 11:15 PM

So can we unlock and play the new unlocks in this patch?

If so, where can I download?

idk about unlocking, but u can dl it here ( it was on the front page btw :) )http://www.filecloud.com/files/file.php?user_file_id=357962

The_Eliminator

02-02-2007, 11:15 PM

I just did a quick reinstall and patched to 1.19b and it works, although only the NS beta servers shop up at the moment so i guess i will go play them for a bit until some more original BF2142 servers upload the patch.

fshy94

02-02-2007, 11:19 PM

Has anyone tried to field upgrade to these things? They said we would be able to. Or is that gonna be for the 1.2 final?

The_Eliminator

02-02-2007, 11:23 PM

I have just downloaded the 1.19b patch and you said you dont get descriptions for the new unlocks? Well i am????

kamikaze cow

02-02-2007, 11:28 PM

I have just downloaded the 1.19b patch and you said you dont get descriptions for the new unlocks? Well i am????
Thats because you have NS beta ;)

The_Eliminator

02-02-2007, 11:31 PM

Yes i admit i am a beta tester but i just deleted all of the content off my hard disk and did a fresh reinstall of BF2142 and patched to 1.19b, you sure you dont have the descriptions in your BFHQ?

kamikaze cow

02-02-2007, 11:35 PM

lol, opps, i didnt check bfhq... *checking*

EDIT: nope, no descriptions in bfhq, but i got to see all the unlocks :D Ill post so more screenshots in a bit

The_Eliminator

02-02-2007, 11:36 PM

Please say that you can see the descriptions, i really dont want another screw up.

kamikaze cow

02-02-2007, 11:47 PM

Would the weapon descriptions screw you up? BTW, whenver i join a server it says i have modified content (i didnt do anything btw) so if there is a problem, its on my end :(

The_Eliminator

02-02-2007, 11:50 PM

Could any1 else who ISNT beta testing tell me if they can see the weapon descriptions in BFHQ?

As for your problem KC, i have no idea m8, sorry.

I got to go get some sleep now, nn guys.

Hurricane

02-02-2007, 11:52 PM

I'm psychic!

Lt. Orth

02-03-2007, 12:06 AM

Dude, you have to be a beta tester to see the descriptions, I dont think you can field unlock, BUT TRUST ME, their sweet a$$ unlocks, you will love them. I have personally seen the descriptions, but I cannot tell you anything. Sorry mates, just 1 more month, you can wait.

xXxThanatos

02-03-2007, 12:28 AM

I see we have six of the new unlocks posted, but what/where are the other 4? Guess I'll have to wait till I get home to d/l and check it out myself.

ShadowX8001

02-03-2007, 12:31 AM

Some of the new unlocks are AWESOME! But some are just worthless crap

Lt. Orth

02-03-2007, 12:49 AM

No comment on that one.

MouseNo4

02-03-2007, 12:57 AM

Eliminator you arent spose to tell anyone your a beta tester as it breaks the nda.

And the problem with the descriptions is due to a custom localisation file being present on your copy of bf.

Remove it and replace it with the original and it will show up fine.

=FUGAZI=Adam

02-03-2007, 01:37 AM

The unlocks are pretty underwhelming. I for one am very disappointed.

kamikaze cow

02-03-2007, 04:31 AM

The unlocks are pretty underwhelming. I for one am very disappointed.

So far, i gotta agree with you a bit, im gonna keep playin around with them though, maybe ill stumble across something good :D Now that the new weapons are public, what do you NS people think are the best and worst of the new unlocks?

vbl

02-03-2007, 04:46 AM

The unlocks are pretty underwhelming. I for one am very disappointed.

Most of em look pretty boring.

gamefoo

02-03-2007, 05:06 AM

Umm...

Support just went from overpowered to godly with that "infantry sonar."

StealthClobber

02-03-2007, 05:15 AM

Maybe gamefoo, but the first time some non-beta tester tries it with the Clark-12, they will be dissapointed. :P

Not what you expected huh guys?

Joe1141

02-03-2007, 05:39 AM

What do the boots do? I unlocked them with a field unlock and they didn't have any noticeable effect.

Leemus

02-03-2007, 05:55 AM

What do the boots do? I unlocked them with a field unlock and they didn't have any noticeable effect.

Decrease fall damage. Increase stamina regen.
No Im not a beta tester. Please dont hurt me.

Minmaster

02-03-2007, 06:28 AM

wow i think they saw my idea for back in december and considered it. could it be?

check the first reply on the second page.

http://www.totalbf2142.com/forums/showthread.php?p=195949&mode=linearpost195949

http://home.insightbb.com/%7Eavenger/3.PNG

Sepp_Dietrich

02-03-2007, 06:32 AM

If you are using custom localization files, you won't see the descriptions.Revert back to the standard localization files and you'll see the descriptions.

Micster

02-03-2007, 06:42 AM

Umm...

Support just went from overpowered to godly with that "infantry sonar."

True, I mean if we have that, what's the use of the Heart Beat Detector if you can just drive around with the IDS?

Svartberg

02-03-2007, 07:20 AM

Would be nice to test them on singleplayer ala folkes mod :P

BTW, imagine playing cerbere landing with all 20 support players using the sonar, cause that's what's gonna happen :D

RYKUU

02-03-2007, 07:24 AM

so this is the new patch with the unlocks?

Kalo

02-03-2007, 07:37 AM

True, I mean if we have that, what's the use of the Heart Beat Detector if you can just drive around with the IDS?

How hard is it to spend 5 seconds to FIND it...How hard is it to head shot them or PK-74 rocket them, half the "Godly players" really do suck.

Seriously people.

NOTHING is "Godly" Judging by the word on the G36 that was overpowered, barely anything in this game is and when it is it has bad draw backs.

Whats GOOD about the new unlocks.

The decoy for recon is nifty, i got two people to fall for it.

RDX shotgun? INCREDIBLY nifty!

Great for bringing out those vent campers OR grenade spammers! =D

Boots? Go recon!

Ammo upgrade for engin and assault? oh hell yes..

The new nade for engineers? Really nifty when you cant get real close in a heated combat situation.

UAV nade? Glad you can only use one per life, i mean really...Nade spammers! YAY!

Beacon unlock? That is INCREDIBLY useful actually.

All of these things are useful all you guys want are cool stuff which this stuff
is.

Let me rephrase, you want a G36 with uber pwn tubes! Get over it All of these unlocks are useful.

RYKUU

02-03-2007, 09:20 AM

:FINISHED DOWNLOADING IT:

This PWNS!!

JohnnySupreme

02-03-2007, 09:31 AM

I like the look of all those new unlocks. They are clearly designed for tactical advantages, not fire power.

I think everyone wanted uber weapons added. Although that would be nice for some, for everyone else who couldn't unlock them it would be bad news.

The motion mine decoy is going to be very useful. There are far too many motion mine spammers these days. Many of the other unlocks will hopefully solve many of the Titan stalemate situations.

Svartberg

02-03-2007, 10:03 AM

The decoy for recon is nifty, i got two people to fall for it.
I had two people fall for the camo too when I started out, still crap compared to the stuff the other kits got.

RDX shotgun? INCREDIBLY nifty!
Say hello to the new n00btube :P

UAV nade? Glad you can only use one per life, i mean really...Nade spammers! YAY!
Ye, once per life - so nobody is gonna use it just like the smoke nade.
And wasn't it supposed to spread smoke while having doing the shortrange UAV so you could take people behind the smoke ??

How exactly having once per life balanced, when mr. support gets a permanent UAV which he can resupply with his big ammo crate ?

Beacon unlock? That is INCREDIBLY useful actually.
So basically this is a passive unlock, which mean we're gonna see faster respawns ? I imagine this in conjuction with the sonars will mean no chance for the attackers on cerbere landing, berlin, etc ...

So from what I see :
1. support gets all the lovin' again.
2. recon's unlocks still very situational and don't line him with the other kits.
3. assault get's an item nobody that can't be compared to rockets/defab, which means barely noone will pick it over them. (just like the shotgun/smoke)
The fact Dice made shells and rockets addons use the same ammo, pretty much means they didn't want people to pick them both - and from there it's no surprise every assault use rockets & defab, booring.
4. engineer unlock seem decent, the question is how the mine bait will fair as a titan attack tool (think putting a few motion mines and throwing a bait into a corridor, for defusing & fragging), if so along with the clip extension it will give him titan attack capabilities which is neat :)

But I guess we'll only see that in a month, I put my money on imbalances.

Rick Astley

02-03-2007, 10:31 AM

Ok so if i download this beta patch will have the unlocks without doing anything to files and stuff? Because i don't want to screw up another game while messing with the files.

MrBenis

02-03-2007, 10:41 AM

I'd be more interested in a new engineer rifle.

antihero

02-03-2007, 11:16 AM

Would the weapon descriptions screw you up? BTW, whenver i join a server it says i have modified content (i didnt do anything btw) so if there is a problem, its on my end :(

Do you have that Dan's Localization thing installed. If so I bet that is the issue.

The_Eliminator

02-03-2007, 12:11 PM

Im a BETA tester and i can tell you that they are disappointing. Has any1 else who isnt beta testing been able to confirm that they can see the descriptions in their BFHQ as although i am a tester i recently uninstalled everything and reinstalled normal BF2142 yet i can see the descriptions?

spork32983475938

02-03-2007, 12:51 PM

Vreki

02-03-2007, 01:00 PM

Vreki

02-03-2007, 01:04 PM

Oh yeah, and the noisy kid above reminded me of this: Isnt the unlock NDA void now? Or at least you can tell us off your experience with the unlocks after this patch? ;)

Svartberg

02-03-2007, 01:40 PM

Oh yeah, and the noisy kid above reminded me of this: Isnt the unlock NDA void now? Or at least you can tell us off your experience with the unlocks after this patch? ;)

I doubt the NDA is void.
Since the patch is out and everyone can see the unlocks and description it means people can talk about what they saw, but since nobody can actually play with them yet - that's about it.

Vreki

02-03-2007, 02:11 PM

I doubt the NDA is void.
Since the patch is out and everyone can see the unlocks and description it means people can talk about what they saw, but since nobody can actually play with them yet - that's about it.

But you can, I just Field Upgraded (and used) the MM bait.

Edit to add: And I was disappointed, I had hoped you could use it to lure MM into Titan corridors and KABOOM.

But unfortunately you cant even deploy MM inside the Titan, they either fall through the floor or self-destruct.

Outside they seem to make a very small explosion when detonated by the bait, so it is really only useful for mine sweeping:(

Svartberg

02-03-2007, 02:29 PM

But you can, I just Field Upgraded (and used) the MM bait.

Edit to add: And I was disappointed, I had hoped you could use it to lure MM into Titan corridors and KABOOM.

But unfortunately you cant even deploy MM inside the Titan, they either fall through the floor or self-destruct.

Outside they seem to make a very small explosion when detonated by the bait, so it is really only useful for mine sweeping:(

Ah it seems I couldn't join a server due to the localization file - in that case I guess you can talk about the unlocks as much as you want, because we aren't NDA.

The administrators here may choose to restrict talk about the unlocks anyway, but I doubt they will.

I'll go check them myself, but man - if you say you're dissapointed, little hope is left :(

Vreki

02-03-2007, 02:33 PM

Ah it seems I couldn't join a server due to the localization file - in that case I guess you can talk about the unlocks as much as you want, because we aren't NDA.

The administrators here may choose to restrict talk about the unlocks anyway, but I doubt they will.

I'll go check them myself, but man - if you say you're dissapointed, little hope is left :(

Don't despair yet, I have only been able to test the Engineering unlocks, because I haven't 4 unlocks in any other tree.

I think support is where the action is.

Razzor7

02-03-2007, 02:36 PM

How effective is the RDX shotgun against vehicles?

Firestorm

02-03-2007, 02:44 PM

How effective is the RDX shotgun against vehicles?

Very Useful. As it damages them a whole lot. It takes 4 fours to damage a gunship heavily.

The_Eliminator

02-03-2007, 02:46 PM

Sorry but im a beta tester and i can tell you now that the RDX shotgun is highly ineffective against vehicles after doing many tests.

EDIT: Thanks you Vreki for putting my mind to rest about the descriptions :)

Iwantcable

02-03-2007, 02:56 PM

Yeah the RDX shotgun sucks. It does 79 damage per flare when you lay on top of it. 20 damage to FAVs per shot, and about 5-6 damage to a tank I think. 2 other guys and I were running around trying to kill each other with it and it took forever. You have to be practically standing still to die.

The only other thing I got to test was the ghost (recon unlock), and that's pretty useful. Throw one down at a main and you can sneak around the back without being on the UAV.

Rick Astley

02-03-2007, 03:01 PM

Ok so if i download this beta patch will have the unlocks without doing anything to files and stuff? Because i don't want to screw up another game while messing with the files.
^^^^^^^^^^
Too bad i have to quote myself!:rolleyes:

Iwantcable

02-03-2007, 03:06 PM

Installation steps to protect your original BF2142 install:
Beta Installation

* Go to “…\Electronic Arts”
* Right click the “Battlefield 2142” folder and choose “Copy”
* Right click anywhere away from this folder and choose “Paste”
* Once the copy has completed, you will have two folders named “Battlefield 2142” and “Copy of Battlefield 2142”
* Install the update 1.20 beta, then start the game as normal

When you wish to switch back to the release version of BF2142, use the following steps:

* Go to “…\Electronic Arts”
* Right click the “Battlefield 2142” folder and choose “Rename”
* Rename the folder to something like “Battlefield 2142 Beta”
* Right click the “Copy of Battlefield 2142” folder
* Rename the folder the “Battlefield 2142”
* Start the game as normal.

The shortcut will run BF2142.exe from whichever folder is named “Battlefield 2142” and both installations share the same registry entries.

Using the above steps will negate the need to completely uninstall and re-install whenever you wish to switch from the retail version to the beta version and vice versa.

filler

Vreki

02-03-2007, 03:08 PM

^^^^^^^^^^
Too bad i have to quote myself!:rolleyes:

I don't quite understand the question?

The patch will patch ;) so you can no longer run on servers with the old version, but only the few running 1.20 public beta.

The unlocks will be available without any hacking, but only as field upgrades (or loot from corpses I expect).

So you need to have all standard unlocks in the branch you wish to try.

Rick Astley

02-03-2007, 03:26 PM

I don't quite understand the question?

The patch will patch ;) so you can no longer run on servers with the old version, but only the few running 1.20 public beta.

The unlocks will be available without any hacking, but only as field upgrades (or loot from corpses I expect).

So you need to have all standard unlocks in the branch you wish to try.
Ok thanks. Well, to lightnen up my question: I asked if i mess with my files, i will get the NS unlocks. Because i saw a post that said he messed with some files and got the unlocks......

Maybe i will download the patch tomorrow, it isn't a big patch after all. Hope some Dutch people will join in with me.

Svartberg

02-03-2007, 03:45 PM

Ah I just checked some of the unlocks.
It's a good thing that RDX shotgun isn't overpowered, but I really haven't been able to kill anyone with it. (I guess it's for people who want an extra edge while using the shotgun), that radar grenade is a cool concept, but it takes so long for the damn smoke to show and the smoke barely lasts. (plus it's only one nade right ?), well at least the sonar doesn't show red squares like the heartbeat sensor, hrmmph.

ak1knight

02-03-2007, 03:48 PM

I like the rdx shotty because you can use it with your standard machine gun.

Kalo

02-03-2007, 05:18 PM

Actually NO its not a noob toob it seems more like the solution to nade spammers, DICE' solution to it.

It takes a few seconds to detonate like a nade.

vbl

02-03-2007, 06:27 PM

I think most folks are excited about the RDX shotgun because it's the only new unlock that looks like it's fun to use.

The rest of them are just variations on stuff that's already in the game. Full unlock list can be found here: http://www.forumplanet.com/planetbattlefield/topic.asp?fid=18377&tid=2010901

Rogue Warrior

02-03-2007, 07:07 PM

If you are using custom localization files, you won't see the descriptions.Revert back to the standard localization files and you'll see the descriptions.

Not true I had a similar problem.I had to re-install, and I can now see everything correctly and using the localization files as well

kamikaze cow

02-03-2007, 07:31 PM

Me and Kalo got a great squad going yesterday (lots of fun :) ) so we were able to unlock alot of the new unlocks as field upgrades. The rdx clark seemed pretty useless at first, but after using it more in the titan, it became really useful. The motion mine bait works REALLY well for whats its designed to do (For example, i used one in the middle silo at vendrun, and it sucked up almost all the mines in the area) The new assault unlocks worked nicely too, but i was wondering if its a bug or feature that you can only use the UAV nade once? Its the only thing in game that you cant get more ammo for...

wow i think they saw my idea for back in december and considered it. could it be?

check the first reply on the second page.

http://www.totalbf2142.com/forums/showthread.php?p=195949&mode=linearpost195949

lmao, wow, i think they did see it! They should give you NS for free, for the contribution

Kalo

02-03-2007, 08:08 PM

That nade has more uses than you can shake a stick at cow.
The RDX is fun and all but i really like the decoy, people fell for it.

Rick Astley

02-03-2007, 08:12 PM

I would like to see the Decoy in action, maybe you can surround your decoy with APMs for extra irritation from the enemy.
Maybe i am going to download this beta tomorrow. Or not, because i have schoolexams. Not the real deal, but a half of the real deal....

Vreki

02-03-2007, 08:17 PM

I managed to get a few minutes with the RDX gun, and it don't really know what to think of it.

It works like a grenade launcher with the same type of sight, but the grenades just stick to the walls for a bit before they detonate.
I don't really see what it can do that Grenades cant, except maybe being a bit easier to use since it fires immediately.
The sticky grenades actually seems like a bit of a disadvantage, I would have preferred impact detonated or being able to bounce the grenades around corners.

As a primary weapon I wouldn't use it, but I could see carrying it instead of the sentry gun on attacks.

I saw someone post that a full clip could take a tank down to 79 health. I am not sure that I like that, it could make support too flexible.

Lt. Orth

02-03-2007, 08:25 PM

The RDX Shotty is nice, I was in Sidi Powerplant and I podded off the titan while some guy was shooting at the titan guns from the AA in the center silo, he saw me pod into the center, and I ran at him, he shot 2-3 of them into the ground, but, I only heard the pffft sound, it was weird, I was all 'wtf is he doing?' and BOOMB!!, lmfao. Someone get some snapshots of the decoy please :). I wanna see some noobs fall for it.

Firestorm

02-03-2007, 09:23 PM

The Gatekeeper

02-03-2007, 10:28 PM

Thats because you have NS beta ;)

I don't have NS beta and I get them (as in the booster pack)!

di di MAU

02-03-2007, 10:42 PM

That nade has more uses than you can shake a stick at cow.
The RDX is fun and all but i really like the decoy, people fell for it.

so that's where you've been? beta testing? tsk tsk.

Kalo

02-04-2007, 01:05 AM

Yes i have, you should too you noob tube =P! i miss you man i cant wait till you try out that shotty.

You should realize the usefulness of RDX shotguns, i know how to nade a vent and get the people hiding but it bounces :( meaning i dont get my 5 kills! not with t3h shotty.

I-Kodiak-I

02-04-2007, 02:11 AM

all looking awesome :D , im loving that new Clarke-15B :D

StealthyOtter

02-04-2007, 02:54 AM

haha. support is gonna pwn with these new unlocks. it pwnz now. haha.

Pockypocky

02-04-2007, 02:54 AM

im kinda worryed that u wont get any "free" unlocks even though the highest rank =(

Kalo

02-04-2007, 03:13 AM

im kinda worryed that u wont get any "free" unlocks even though the highest rank =(

Did you not see the new awards?! They give you unlocks.

Worryed?! wtf...?

t00bsox

02-04-2007, 04:08 AM

I'd like the sticky RDX to stick onto player models. Could be pure comedy gold shooting someone in the back and watch him run to his squad not knowing...

I-Kodiak-I

02-04-2007, 04:15 AM

http://www.forumplanet.com/planetbattlefield/topic.asp?fid=18377&tid=2010901

more info on unlocks with descriptions

kamikaze cow

02-04-2007, 04:49 AM

I'd like the sticky RDX to stick onto player models. Could be pure comedy gold shooting someone in the back and watch him run to his squad not knowing...

I kept trying to do that, but it never worked :( I really wish dice would make it so that you could control the time it takes for the nades to detonate. Sort of like the air bursts, but instead of controlling the distance with the mouse wheel its the time

Pockypocky

02-04-2007, 06:17 AM

ya i saw the awards but which 1 gives the unlocks???
and few the awards only can be obtained in NS so if we dont have NS we are missing few unlocks???

Vreki

02-04-2007, 07:13 AM

Has anybody tried using the RDX gun as a mine sweeper?

I have been told that RDX packs can be used to clear vents of APMs, so if it is the same explosive...

Pockypocky

02-04-2007, 07:56 AM

the new clark 13 doesnt not shoot RDX it shoots Pk rocket rounds and explodes 2-3 seconds after impact

edit:sorry its clark 12RDX

Vreki

02-04-2007, 08:11 AM

the new clark 13 doesnt not shoot RDX it shoots Pk rocket rounds and explodes 2-3 seconds after impact

Maybe, but in this patch we only get the Clark 12-RDX, which shoots "RDX Anti-Personnel Timed Munitions"

Pockypocky

02-04-2007, 08:19 AM

Maybe, but in this patch we only get the Clark 12-RDX, which shoots "RDX Anti-Personell Timed Muntions"

i have tried the clark 12RDX myself and im sure those arent rdx
and sry about the earlier post i meant clark 12rdx not 13

Here are some screen shots in the beta patch and im 100% sure those arent RDX
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/blazezaku/BF21422007-02-0323-01-34-10.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/blazezaku/BF21422007-02-0322-55-11-90.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/blazezaku/BF21422007-02-0322-52-56-76.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/blazezaku/BF21422007-02-0322-42-49-81.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/blazezaku/BF21422007-02-0322-26-35-17.jpg

Vreki

02-04-2007, 08:24 AM

i have tried the clark 12RDX myself and im sure those arent rdx
and sry about the earlier post i meant clark 12rdx not 13

Here are some screen shots in the beta patch and im 100% sure those arent RDX

How about this screenshot:
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4263/shotgunty4.jpg

Pockypocky

02-04-2007, 08:30 AM

Vreki

02-04-2007, 08:39 AM

i was saying the RDX shotgun doesnt do what RDX explodsive does it doesnt take out apm and i cant blow some1 up even if the shot was so near him it is said to be an RDX but it has the damage of a single PK rockets

No, actually you where saying this:

the new clark 13 doesnt not shoot RDX it shoots Pk rocket rounds and explodes 2-3 seconds after impact

edit:sorry its clark 12RDX

But as you can see from the description, it does in fact fire RDX and not PK rockets.

You didn't really expect it to fire RDX DemoPacks did you? :rolleyes:
Of course it uses smaller amounts of the explosive.

So has anybody actually tried to remove an APM/RDX pack with it?

I am getting tempted to unlock the Clark 15 just to try out this toy :D

Pockypocky

02-04-2007, 08:42 AM

i was expecting it fires rounds that does same amount of dmg as a demo pack:D
and i have "actually" fire it at a apm it takes 4 hit to destroy the apm(or maybe it was my lag cuz i got 400 ping when playing in that server):D :D :D :D and i have to suicide trying to just take out the apm ...

Vreki

02-04-2007, 08:49 AM

Pockypocky

02-04-2007, 08:50 AM

im not certain cuz my shot keeps landing beside the apm and cuz of the 400 ping i cannot aim
(the rounds hit the ground 2 or 3 seconds after i fire that make it in total of 6 seconds for it to explode)

fshy94

02-04-2007, 04:31 PM

No, actually you where saying this:

But as you can see from the description, it does in fact fire RDX and not PK rockets.

You didn't really expect it to fire RDX DemoPacks did you? :rolleyes:
Of course it uses smaller amounts of the explosive.

So has anybody actually tried to remove an APM/RDX pack with it?

I am getting tempted to unlock the Clark 15 just to try out this toy :D

Don't bother. If you want to get the clark, don't get it for this, get it cuz the Clark is good on its own. I just tried it out, and it was junk. The only kills I got were on people unaware of my presence, and one who was at 10 health anyway. It doesn't get rid of RDX or APM's, so meh. There are only a few unlocks that look like they had promise: Infantry PDS, MMB(which is said to be only OK), and the new SLSB. Disappointing. At point blank it does 60 damage, and from a little off it does 25. If the nme realizes u shot at him, he runs from it and it does 0.

Vreki

02-04-2007, 05:07 PM

Don't bother. If you want to get the clark, don't get it for this, get it cuz the Clark is good on its own. I just tried it out, and it was junk. The only kills I got were on people unaware of my presence, and one who was at 10 health anyway. It doesn't get rid of RDX or APM's, so meh.

To late :D
Maybe it is useless, but for now I like to play with it and find new ways to utilize it. It could have hidden strengths, and it is just a supplement to the main weapon anyway.

The Titan lag fix could mean that I can get some use out of the Clark shotgun, so its not like I have wasted an unlock.

Rick Astley

02-04-2007, 05:19 PM

I haven't tryed it, but it sounds like the RDX shotgun is great for defending silos from a distance. Supporting your local Engineer to take out the tanks and you with the RDX shotgun shoot all the opponent out of range of the Engi.

fshy94

02-04-2007, 06:51 PM

Nope. The RDX shottie is useless at ranges greater than around 25 meters. The Clark owns period, so Vreki did not waste an unlock. It's anti-vehicular strenght can be summed up like this: When destroying a buggy, its faster to use the clark than the rdx shottie. Still, its worth playing with, just in case it has a strength I missed, and the Clark rules anyway.

Kalo

02-04-2007, 07:27 PM

Its actually great on gibraltar.

Leeus

02-04-2007, 07:39 PM

The pics on the front page don't work anymore...

l2edl2azor

02-04-2007, 08:03 PM

Vreki

02-04-2007, 08:37 PM

Are you claiming that these weapons are for the 1.9 patch or are they the NS unlocks? I realize you are able to use them in the 1.9b but are they just a patch add on? NDA would prevent these from being released if they were for the NS bp.

Same thing. The NS unlocks are usable in the core game, so that will have to be patched with the new unlocks to allow this. This is what 1.20 (1.19b) does

They appear to be fully functional, but since nobody have NS, we are only able to use them as Field Upgrades and loot, not permanent upgrades.

The NDA prevents NS Beta testers from discussing the test, it certainly doesn't prevent EA from releasing whatever they want.

SU182

02-05-2007, 01:49 AM

First of all, Will these unlocks be of any use to us, Secondly, Will they work?

Kalo

02-05-2007, 02:25 AM

You just read (Hopefully) 7 pages of people talking about them from a publicly downloaded patch, YES -.-....

Svartberg

02-05-2007, 06:44 AM

The pics on the front page don't work anymore...

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8085/unlocksbr9.jpg

Anyone knows who can see the sonar beside the player ?? is it the whole team or just the squad ?

Raidyr

02-05-2007, 08:47 AM

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8085/unlocksbr9.jpg

Anyone knows who can see the sonar beside the player ?? is it the whole team or just the squad ?

Support Infantry Sonar: Team

Assault Radar Grenade: Squad

MouseNo4

02-05-2007, 09:22 AM

Only some of the unlocks are of any use. The RDX shotgun is NOT one of them. It needs a serious BOOST in the *** before i will bother with it. I have tried it out on over 30 odd enemies. I have killed one.

Killerus

02-05-2007, 09:32 AM

uav grenade is nice. was taking a flag and chucked one over my head. It went off and i caught a guy who would have knifed me for sure. It also allowed me 2 see a couple of other camping enemy in the area which i quickly killed. I am pretty sure i was able to get more than one UAV grenade before i died.

Svartberg

02-05-2007, 12:12 PM

Support Infantry Sonar: Team

Assault Radar Grenade: Squad

Talk about overpowered imbalanced unlocks, one lousy radar grenade hat only helps the squad vs. a pretty much permanent mobile UAC for the whole team - kinda dissapointing. :hmm:

karnstein

02-05-2007, 01:11 PM

Hm, some of them sound rather good and some just look like trash. The boots are great (I'm recon ^^). If the SL tool isn't passiv it is rather useless, I would take the otus instead. A few seconds less helps you nothing if the enemy ambushs you and the support UAV is nice for defending&vehicle whoring (think about a walker/gunship with engi+support), but as a static tool contribute that much to a moving squad than the pulsmeter or the otus drone.

Assault sound rather useless. Defib is a must have and I wouldn't trade the PK for a uav grenade. Why bother? A decent team has a otus drone and at least 1-2 support guys, which could use the dystek. Only good for assault is the passiv rocket unlock, which means more pk-whoring ownage on titan or camp G.

Same goes for the engi. MM Decoy can't clear other explosives than MM, which makes it only second choice after the defuser. More rounds for the smg? holy crap...either I'm lone-wolfing and dead before my ammo runs out, or I'm in a squad which means there's a support guy hangig around. Why couldn't DICE gave the engi an ammo upgrade for the pilum/rocket rifles or the MM-mines. THAT would be usefull...

Support get's the cream. The UAV-sonar is great for combined walker/tank/g-ship whoring with an engi buddy. Clark sounds handy for all those people who are able to shoot people up with PK-rockets, but are horrible throwing nades... (less teamkills... ^^)

Recon seems to get the most "tactical" unlocks. just imagine a bunch of 4 friends (all with a decent rank) pllaying on Fall of berlin or camp G. Each one takes the gost decon, some grap the camo and others take apms. They fake their presence near one flag, mine the beacons with apms and then rush unseen on the radar to another one. This should give the enemy quit a headache. Send some people back checking the ghost signals, will lead to some deaths and weakens the front line. And if the commander plays save, he will likely draw back two small teams.One checking for the possible decoy and one to patrol the flags in his hinterland. And all those recon guys who like active camo, will love the passive upgrade.

Svartberg

02-05-2007, 02:20 PM

Recon seems to get the most "tactical" unlocks. just imagine a bunch of 4 friends (all with a decent rank) pllaying on Fall of berlin or camp G. Each one takes the gost decon, some grap the camo and others take apms. They fake their presence near one flag, mine the beacons with apms and then rush unseen on the radar to another one. This should give the enemy quit a headache. Send some people back checking the ghost signals, will lead to some deaths and weakens the front line ...

By the time the recons do all that, they'd die twice :P

H@wk

02-05-2007, 02:37 PM

Nice work man ;)

The_Eliminator

02-05-2007, 04:28 PM

IMO, here are the good unlocks:

Infantry scanner for support
Extra PK and Herzog Ammo per clip
Extra ammo in engi clip

Here are the ok unlocks:

Motion Mine Bait - this is great but is very situational
RDX Shotgun - again this is good but is VERY situational and needs a buff on damage and control.

Recon Decoy - This again is ok but would have been much better if an actual hologram was produced instead of just screwing with the UAV because not many commanders use a UAV for a single lone sniper.

Here are the useless unlocks:

Boots - dont be silly
Longer camo - it has never bothered me that it wasnt long enough anyway.
Radar grenade - same as the previous smoke grenade except alot more situational.
SLSB - 1) i very rarely have a need to spawn on a beacon that was placed at the very beginning of the map and is now miles away 2) They very rarely get placed down anyway.

Note that none of these unlocks i would class as excellent, plainly because they are not.

Thats my 2 cents for ya!

vbl

02-05-2007, 04:37 PM

I'm just miffed that they added an unlock to reduce fall damage to cover the fact that fall damage in this game is broken.

Kind of like stopping the Titans from moving because they can't fix the Titan lag.

[dwg]MrFuri0us

02-05-2007, 05:35 PM

Kalo

02-05-2007, 10:24 PM

Your two cents are kind of wrong, The UAV grenade is quite possibly one of the new most useful things assault has.

The boots? Come on i cant tell you how many times i jumped off a cliff trying to get away from the enemy! it also increases your stamina regen = Longer runs.

Metalman223344

02-05-2007, 11:52 PM

I heard when they did internal dice testing the RDX shotgun was BRUTAL lol I wish it was like that still...Support rushing the titan Would be fun again

My Titan strategy:
1 friend is support
2 I'm Recon
3 Friend Secures Console 1
4 I Destroy Console 2
5 Friend Secures console 4
6 I Destroy Console 1 and get Resupplied
7 I Destroy Console 3
8 Friend Waits at core doors
9 I Destroy Console 4
10 Friend Drops supplies at glass, So they don't blow up, And Secures Core
11 I blow core
12 45 Second Or Less The Core is destroyed, All depends on initial Resistence to titan.

[dwg]MrFuri0us

02-06-2007, 03:35 AM

11 I blow core

:laugh2:

Metalman223344

02-06-2007, 04:00 AM

Hehe dammit even i knew someone would laugh at that

P.s hows my sig look on everyone elses browser i'm still trying to figure out this whole video sig concept

Shellsh0cker

02-06-2007, 04:12 AM

FIRST OFF IM NOT UNDER NO NDA ACT WICH IS A RETARDED DEAL ANYWAY

SO IN THA THOUGHT OK time to tell it,

This expansion, works just like armor fury, or euro forces and it will divide the community..

this has one new gun that's it ..they did not give us anything..

DICE GET IT RIGHT, WE WANT 10 DIFFERENT PRIMARY GUNS PER KIT,

WE WANT ALL UNLOCKS TO BE ABLE TO BE USED TOGETHER IN MIXES KITS !!

GET IT RIGHT,

WE WANT 10 OR 15 STOCK REAL MAPS THAT ARE RANKED

NOT SOME P.O.S JALABAD PAWN OFF MAP, BECAUSE YOU FEEL SORRY FOR US!

THIS EXPANSION, its absolutely P.O.S expansion that will divide the players...

if you bought or stold, downloaded euro force or armor fury,

then you know what I'm talking about ..

if the beta testers don't plan to buy it, that pretty much tells the story..

i wish i could tell and show you guys everything so I've done my best in posting all the screen shots all over the web on various forums..

because I'm sick and tyred of reading about this horrible expansion..

do you guys realize how much negative feedback this is going to get when u see all the recycled, or useless unlocks.??.??.

lets face it ..its not about the new maps ...its about the unlocks for most..and they suck..

the clark 12 rdx shotgun ..thats original

anyways...

but i don't wana get banned so i will end this here..

I'm allowed to have an opinion about this game since i own it..

and i wont even download the warez version, when its out, not to worry, its really that bad..

First, learn to spell.

Second, EA/DICE want to make money. It's not exactly their fault that it's the single most useful thing in a civilized society. They're going to release booster packs. Live with it.

FIRST OFF IM NOT UNDER NO NDA ACT WICH IS A RETARDED DEAL ANYWAY

Why? Because companies have a right to protect their secrets if they want to?

DICE GET IT RIGHT, WE WANT 10 DIFFERENT PRIMARY GUNS PER KIT,

Since when? By the way, this would mean 6 new guns per kit. That means 24 different skins that they have to think up, and weapon characteristics to implement. Even ignoring your glaring grammatical errors and interpreting this the way I'm pretty sure you meant it to be interpreted, why the heck do you want more guns? We've got plenty already; what's wrong with them? For crying out loud, could you design 24 new weapons without any of them being almost exactly the same as another?

WE WANT ALL UNLOCKS TO BE ABLE TO BE USED TOGETHER IN MIXES KITS !!

No. No we don't. Because that would kind of, oh, DESTROY THE BALANCE OF THE GAME IN EVERY WAY IMAGINABLE.

THIS EXPANSION, its absolutely P.O.S expansion that will divide the players...

Well, you already said that you didn't sign an NDA, so you can't be a beta tester. Therefore, you are proposing an opinion on something you have never played or used.

You don't have to buy it, you know. That's a perfectly legitimate course of action. You don't need to scream at all of us about it.

Elinombrable

02-06-2007, 08:58 PM

totally agree with you shelshocker....this guy is saying a lot of stupid things...

Chewy_Solo

02-07-2007, 02:44 AM

First, learn to spell.

Second, EA/DICE want to make money. It's not exactly their fault that it's the single most useful thing in a civilized society. They're going to release booster packs. Live with it.

Why? Because companies have a right to protect their secrets if they want to?

Since when? By the way, this would mean 6 new guns per kit. That means 24 different skins that they have to think up, and weapon characteristics to implement. Even ignoring your glaring grammatical errors and interpreting this the way I'm pretty sure you meant it to be interpreted, why the heck do you want more guns? We've got plenty already; what's wrong with them? For crying out loud, could you design 24 new weapons without any of them being almost exactly the same as another?

No. No we don't. Because that would kind of, oh, DESTROY THE BALANCE OF THE GAME IN EVERY WAY IMAGINABLE.

Well, you already said that you didn't sign an NDA, so you can't be a beta tester. Therefore, you are proposing an opinion on something you have never played or used.

You don't have to buy it, you know. That's a perfectly legitimate course of action. You don't need to scream at all of us about it.

:laugh: nice

kamikaze cow

02-07-2007, 06:18 AM

Metalman, ur sig looks great :) On topic, anyone know what the 7th personal unlock does? (the clock)

Metalman223344

02-07-2007, 06:36 AM

just means that when ya put down a spawn beacon your squad will spawn in 5 seconds faster...i assume i dunno for sure. no where does it say your using the faster spawn beacon there would be best place for them to put the little icon i assume

I-Kodiak-I

02-07-2007, 07:23 AM

totally agree with you shelshocker....this guy is saying a lot of stupid things...

Same here, only thing that i would like to see how it went was the mixing of unlocks in different Kits or atleast have 3 or at the very max. 4 unlock slots to put gear, having on 2 is really hard to choose especailly now NS has added more unlock gear.

Leemus

02-07-2007, 10:44 AM

Metalman, ur sig looks great :) On topic, anyone know what the 7th personal unlock does? (the clock)

What clock?!
Last time i checked there were only 6 player unlocks (including the boots).

Shellsh0cker

02-07-2007, 07:19 PM

Same here, only thing that i would like to see how it went was the mixing of unlocks in different Kits or atleast have 3 or at the very max. 4 unlock slots to put gear, having on 2 is really hard to choose especailly now NS has added more unlock gear.

Well, they did two for a reason, so you'd have to choose, that was kind of the point.

Metalman, ur sig looks great :) On topic, anyone know what the 7th personal unlock does? (the clock)

It's not a player ability unlock, it's a squad leader unlock. And yeah, as Metalman said, it reduces your squad members' spawn time from 15 seconds to 10 seconds; I'm not sure it does this if you don't spawn on the beacon.