Commander Tking.

[Casper]

I have been playing commander a lot in the past couple weeks and have found that it is very competitve with players. Most games I find at least a couple people who heckle the commander the entire round. They do this with vote kicks, forming single squads and spamming the requests, they do it with in game chatting, and worse of all constant team killing.

Last night I got team killed about a dozen times between 3 guys who all wanted to be commander. They sat on the Titan almost the entire round and took turns trying to TK me.

It got so bad I went and sat in a pod room for a while so I could at least drop the UAV and supplys for those who needed it but I could not be much help with the EMP strike becuase I did not have much time alive to look over the battlefield.

In spite of those guys last night, my team won because the good squad leaders on the ground kept the silos and busted through their Titan before they could set up a good defense.

What would be nice to see is some sort of commander only location inside the Titan or a commander only vehicle that can not take damage from teammates.

[Argh...]

Maybe its that star above ur head :P

[RMcLeod]

I get this sometimes. It shouldn't be possible to kill the commander.

[Abominogg]

I'm sure you were playing with a couple of pissed off teens. Those are the only kinds of ppl who would rather spend time tk'ing and mutiny-voting the commander, instead of earning points by following orders. I feel for ya, brother. I try to do all I can as commander and sometimes ppl will mutiny just cause they wanted the job and I happened to have a slightly higher rank than they did and got the job instead.

[frazle]

Can't say ive ever witnessed such hassle of the commander but I can certainly imagine there are people immature out there to do it!

It would be cool if you had a little commander room on the titan with the map screen in some 3D hologram out of some sci fi film, and when you scan you can see where infantry are etc - might add to the lag though ;)

[Raidyr]

I was always confused as to the fact that Dice allowed Commanders out and about to get personal points as well as the commander stuff. Nothing like having your own personal UAV right? :rolleyes:

[Stemnin]

I know what you mean, I haven't played commander much since this one dude on cerbere (PAC team), I was spotting some infantry that were flanking this guys' squad (they were completely ignoring the enemy). The guy types in stfu or I'll kill you, I can blow you up. I'm on a ladder (protection from orbital strikes), look up, and see RDX packs, jump off the ladder, shoot him, he tried to kill me 3 times, I got him 3 times, I told the admin on TS, he banned him lol.

[Abominogg]

I was always confused as to the fact that Dice allowed Commanders out and about to get personal points as well as the commander stuff. Nothing like having your own personal UAV right? :rolleyes:
Many servers, however, stipulate that the commander must command and not fight, fly, drive vehicles, etc. or he will be kicked. I find it difficult to command as expected and fight at the same time. I hide somewhere to drop supplies or a UAV and such, and then someone always shoots me while the commander screen is up!

[Casper]

Yea I normally hide too. In conquest I find a tight spot and lay down some APM's (wow a use for APM's!) for protection. However if a teammate comes to TK me, then I end up TKing him because of APM's. It really would be nice to take the commander almost totally out of the action.

I am glad to see I am not alone here. I guess my lesson is to find more well admined servers to play on as being commander is growing on me. There is nothing like being commander when you have some good squads under you.

[venny]

if my memory serves me well enough, i think at least half of all the rounds i played had at least 1 mutiny vote on. most players really hate commanders i guess, whether or not the team is winning, they still mutiny. funny part is, mutiny votes never succeed, not even when majority votes r cast. lol
http://www.totalbf2142.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16401

[Buttoneer]

Succeeded on me the other night. Of course there was a lot of suckage on our side. One squad only and all lone wolves. Lost one round and then was losing the next and this guy mutinied twice. second one worked. He went on to lose that round and the next one because, of course, nobody squaded up. Putz.

Everyone can do a better job that you, right?

[hellR1de]

Man, I didn't know I could read such frustrating things about commanding. So far, I have almost no commanding experience (about 3 hours) and each time I saw a mutiny vote initiated against me, I resigned. I was kicked once I think and the smacktards who did that didn't even try to replace me :confused:

After reading a few posts mentioning that those votes happen almost all the time, it gave me confidence that I could still try to work my way as commander, in order to achieve some of the related awards. But this TKing stuff ? I'm speechless. I sure hope there's not a lot of servers with idiots like that... :(

[RottnJP]

That kind of crap will get someone banned from our server very quickly...

In fact, such a smacktard accounts for my only deliberate TK... Dude running around the titan control deck knifes me. I spawn back in- didn't have command console up at the time to boot him- I see him knife a titan gunner and AA gunner while I'm spawning and pulling out my SMG & I kill him as he's going after another titan gunner. He was banned by another admin before he respawned. :D

[hellR1de]

That kind of crap will get someone banned from our server very quickly...

In fact, such a smacktard accounts for my only deliberate TK... Dude running around the titan control deck knifes me. I spawn back in- didn't have command console up at the time to boot him- I see him knife a titan gunner and AA gunner while I'm spawning and pulling out my SMG & I kill him as he's going after another titan gunner. He was banned by another admin before he respawned. :D
Glad to see there's still some justice somewhere after all :)

[Casper]

That kind of crap will get someone banned from our server very quickly...

In fact, such a smacktard accounts for my only deliberate TK... Dude running around the titan control deck knifes me. I spawn back in- didn't have command console up at the time to boot him- I see him knife a titan gunner and AA gunner while I'm spawning and pulling out my SMG & I kill him as he's going after another titan gunner. He was banned by another admin before he respawned. :D

Gonna try your server out for sure. Dice can put in all the little features they want such as the FTK and PTK, but none of that will ever be as effective as a good admin on the server.

[Ghiblian]

I play commander a LOT (my commander score is around 7000), and I never get hassled. =\ Occasionally I'll get a mutiny vote, but they've never succeeded. Many server, however, have the mutiny option disabled (because I know sometimes I really want to mutiny a commander and can't seem to do it).

[RottnJP]

Gonna try your server out for sure. Dice can put in all the little features they want such as the FTK and PTK, but none of that will ever be as effective as a good admin on the server.

Absolutely- have a blast. It tends to run pretty smoothly, too, since we let it auto-kick the high-pingers. We tend to get it rolling in the evenings after work, since we're mostly family types. Just look out for my APM's, Casper! I still need my gold "boomkill" badge! :laugh: (FF is on, though.) Anyway, all [OF] are admins, & feel free to use the public TS channel if you want. Voting is disabled, too- just makes for less smacktardery. If someone needs to be kicked, let us know, and we'll investigate and act accordingly.

[KHAN]

I'm sick of commanders running around the map spamming artillary getting medals...

[amashinga]

I command a reasonable amount. When I do, I command, I dont do anything else, with one exception. I will defend a titan corridor and command at the same time. I use both the comms on the cmdr screen, and voip with the squads. If someone starts a kick vote, I ask him what he would like done better. I have never been voted out, normally its not even close because people can see that I am actually doing the job.

[Casper]

I have not been voted out either. However that does not stop them from spam chatting or Tking me. The squad request spam at least can be turned off for their squad.

[Lofty]

Sometimes I'll see someone go commander and then someone else will mutiny before the match has even started lol. If I'm outranked I usually end up as squad leader and try again next round.

However I was playing on a couple of servers last night and wanted to go commander, except this one guy kept getting it cause he was Brig Gen. I would be fine with this except that he did hardly anything. He was doing a Skunk trick and was only doing it for the free points, this is where I wish mutiny votes did work (now I remember I did mutiny him once and it said mutiny successful by defualt and he got kicked ??? lol).

A little off topic, I understand the commander points are given by 1/x where x is the number of players on your side, what I was wondering is when the commander kills someone does this also add 1/x score?

[onehitah]

I have not been voted out either. However that does not stop them from spam chatting or Tking me. The squad request spam at least can be turned off for their squad.

Yip. I was in that game last night and I remember you getting yelled at for hanging out in the titan pods and you had to explain you were being tk'd. They were screwing with everyone. I almost left the server but they ended up leaving themselves, after a while.

Nice commanding though....we did win.

[TheDesert_Fox]

I've never gotten TKed as Comm... maybe only a Titan Comm. thing? I just run and hide somewhere, pull up the console, and never exit that again until the round is over... which is odd, I'm always yelling at them "you **** heads, get some CPs already, you're embarrassing yourselves!" and giving orders every half second :D

What I see all the time though it TKing commanders as in the Comm TKing his men with airstrikes on one enemy when 5 friendlies are in the area (literally, only one enemy said the UAV, and 5 good guys said the minimap), and commanders dropping supplies on the enemies side of the battle zone! It makes me so mad to hear "orbital strike, your area" and see it's falling on me with no enemies in sight, the same with EMPs!

[dontsh000t]

yes. some commanders think the red dots they see with sat-track are STAIONARY enemies, so when the strike is done 20 seconds later they place it right where friendlies are rushing in and wiping out the red dots.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

When commanding I C7 the rear the outpost team taking (when assulting) then hide. Nothing bad with blowing c7 when you see red dots on map right?

[Cazzy]

Wasn't the original idea for commanders in the BF series to not be a playable character on the battlefield? More like a presence in the game but cannot kill or be killed. I remember reading this somewhere back when BF2 was in development....