After patch 1.20 more roof jumpers than ever

[DeathEngineer]

I spent a few hours on a server today with the 1.20 patch and still see plenty of roof jumpers. Moreover, when they spawn down through the pod they can steer it to land precisely on any spot within about a 100m radius or they just seem to spawn directly over which ever spot they chose.

On Berlin:
We were PAC and they got on the roof at our main base. Each time they spawned they could direct the pod to land on any one of the rooftop around the base. As for precision... they pod-killed me twice right after I sniped them from the ground, and each time our walker or APC spawned they could steer their pods directly onto the vehicle and steal it. Haven't seen this level of precision from a spawn-pod before.

On Gibraltar:
Middle of the map there are a few tall towers and a bunch of rooftops. I saw a couple of guys spawn-podded onto the very top of the towers to snipe. I snipe one off and he spawn-podded onto the top of a different tower... the towers are probably 100m meters apart. The strange thing is their pods just appeared directly over the tower and they just dropped straight down (no steering, no spinning). They kept this up for the whole round spawning from towers to rooftops without ever touching the ground.

I saw this on a server that I have played on before but haven't in a while, and this is the first time I've seen this behavior.

Has anyone else seen this?

[nadicus]

People have been doing this since pretty much day one. They just place the SB close to the edge of a building and then eventually they get on top. After, the SL puts a SB on the top of the building.

Or they are surfing, but i really dont know too much about that.

[pi314159]

they fixed surfing in 1.20

[ThirtyOughtSix]

surfing is not this... apparently... because you can still DO IT.

[pi314159]

yea, you can still use sl beacon to get on roofs - ea/dice said it was a valid tactic. nadicus said it might be surfing though, but that was fixed in patch.

on another note, i did notice i was spawning farther from the sl beacon than what i remembered, but i could be wrong. could this lead to the increased roof activity you saw? or maybe just an abnormally large number of people attempting it.

[Bahraini_Killer]

so shall I pacth or not??

I mean is there advantages or more dis-advantages?

[pi314159]

yea patch. no disadvantages really. they fixed some things and you get the NS unlocks as field upgrades

[JohnnyBadass]

you have to patch...the pods arent as controlable as before but you can still manuver them

[JohnnyBadass]

well you dont have to....

[joe2]

you have to patch...the pods arent as controlable as before but you can still manuver themhow do you maneuver them? is this legit or is it a hack?

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

yea when I saw on squad beacon since day 1 i wasn't able to manuver the pod!

[Leeus]

how do you maneuver them? is this legit or is it a hack?

Yeah this is what I want to know... I've never been able to move the pod at all unless I'm coming from a plane, apc, or titan.

[Breff]

Me personally, I love when they go up on the roofs. Skylined snipers (or whatever) are rocket fodder. :D

Also I can't see how it's possible to place a beacon up top. Once the SL is up there his beacon is below. If someone shoots it out, he has to die before he gets another. Correct me if I'm wrong. (Happens all the time!)

[MouseNo4]

Then after that he leaves the squad and rejoins so someone else can dump the beacon. I have spawn on the rooftops many times. Since its a valid tactic there is nothing wrong with it.

[Breff]

Then after that he leaves the squad and rejoins so someone else can dump the beacon. I have spawn on the rooftops many times. Since its a valid tactic there is nothing wrong with it.

Right-O! Dang, I'm wrong again!

[I-Kodiak-I]

yea, you can still use sl beacon to get on roofs - ea/dice said it was a valid tactic. nadicus said it might be surfing though, but that was fixed in patch.

well with Dice, they say they fix something but there is ALWAYS a way around it, like in BF2, they took out the C-4 chucking, but you can still do it, Dolphin diving. You can still do that, SL beacon glitch is properlly still there. so if Dice says they fixed it, just means there are less people doing it because they dont know how to get around it.

[eddiecatflap]

This works well on Gibralter on the Ruins flag, stick a becon near to the wall, Spawn onto it, and you can stear a little. Get on the roof and get one of your squad to shoot the becon then add a new spawn becon on the roof..

[IamFodder]

How do you steer a pod spawning on a beacon? All I can do is spin around (and look up and down)..

I keep reading that one can redirect a bit but I've never been able to do it.

I once spawned out-of-bounds because the SL put the beacon in a great hiding spot (after I got reoriented I made it back in with 1 second to spare) but if I could steer the pod I probably could have stayed inbounds in the first place..

[ThePhoniex]

This is pertaining to drop pods so i decided to post it here..

Last night on a titan map with titan movement disabled i was able to pod up from an APC in the middle of the map. I was bailing out of the APC as a walker was pounding it, i was expecting the little crap pod, but i got the full height pod. Afterwards i checked again, both titans in their starting spots. Now i wish i had enjoyed it more:)

[Skates]

Me personally, I love when they go up on the roofs. Skylined snipers (or whatever) are rocket fodder. :D

Also I can't see how it's possible to place a beacon up top. Once the SL is up there his beacon is below. If someone shoots it out, he has to die before he gets another. Correct me if I'm wrong. (Happens all the time!)

I do this, not to snipe from a roof top because you get picked off too easy, but to have a beacon that can only be destroyed by an orbital. It's easy to place it up top because when you die as a squad lead you respawn with another beacon. Pod onto the roof and either have a squadmate destroy the beacon or just look over the edge and do it yourself and then drop the new one. The beacon can also be resupplied by a support or a ammo crate.

[amashinga]

Given that EA say that using the spawn beacon to get to the top of a building is not against the rules, why wont anyone tell us how to 'surf' the pod ?.

The only thing I know is that it requires some changes to the sensitivity settings of certain navigation controls. I have my controls set at the maximum I can handle for CQ combat, so that is not an option for me :-)

[Dogge_Parkour]

I know how to "surf" ... so if it's not against any rules on this site? I can tell you guys... I'm able to surf many hundreds of meters.

[amashinga]

I know how to "surf" ... so if it's not against any rules on this
site? I can tell you guys... I'm able to surf many hundreds of meters.

Well please PM me if you are unsure. I enjoy podding in behind players on rooftops and taking out the knife :D

[kamikaze cow]

I think you have to bunny hop sort of... im not sure, someone in my squad was doing it once and was trying to explain it to everyone.

[MrKlorox]

I think you have to bunny hop sort of... im not sure, someone in my squad was doing it once and was trying to explain it to everyone.

Very simple tactic. No buttons or keys are pressed... ONLY MOUSE MOVEMENTS ON THE X-AXIS. That is all I will say. I figured this out on like the seventh beacon I had spawned on day 1.

Have a nice look around while in the air. Orient yourself, then mouse away.

[dnomyar0]

Very simple tactic. No buttons or keys are pressed... ONLY MOUSE MOVEMENTS ON THE X-AXIS. That is all I will say. I figured this out on like the seventh beacon I had spawned on day 1.

Have a nice look around while in the air. Orient yourself, then mouse away.

yup :D

[Ferali]

Me personally, I love when they go up on the roofs. Skylined snipers (or whatever) are rocket fodder. :D

Also I can't see how it's possible to place a beacon up top. Once the SL is up there his beacon is below. If someone shoots it out, he has to die before he gets another. Correct me if I'm wrong. (Happens all the time!)

As soon as the squadleader dies and respawns and has the beacon equiped he has it in his inventory. He just can't deploy it until the first beacon he put down is destroyed.

[chucky48316]

I'm gonna do it because dice said its a legit tactic and if this is against any forum rules, please just delete post don't ban me or anything, I never post anything that is illegal...

Just point use the mouse to turn facing away from where you want to go than slowly move the mouse left and right keeping you rear facing the direction you want, and bam instant control of the pods, just takes some practice.

I really don't see why anyone has a problem with this, everyone can do it and if the sniper on the roof can see you, you can see him and shoot him. If he has a beacon on a roof you want to get rid of, have you SL place a beacon so you can get up there, knife em and take out their beacon or just have your SL ask the cmdr for a emp or orbital strike in the area and no more beacon.

Only thing with rooftops I have a problem with is guys that take advantage of FF off and RDX up there, thats weak and taking advantage of something that isn't supposed to be available.

Oh, Ferali, if he has a support on his team that pods on the roof with him, he resupplies the beacon, or asks cmdr for supply drop, than they just need someone on the ground to take out the old beacon, or shoot it from the roof.

[ThirtyOughtSix]

How do you steer a pod spawning on a beacon? All I can do is spin around (and look up and down)..

I keep reading that one can redirect a bit but I've never been able to do it.

I once spawned out-of-bounds because the SL put the beacon in a great hiding spot (after I got reoriented I made it back in with 1 second to spare) but if I could steer the pod I probably could have stayed inbounds in the first place..

See this is exactly why I consider it an exploit.... and why I can't explain the right way to do it. Your close, but I can't say how... or I'll get in trouble again. But I see it as an exploit because most people don't even KNOW that you can or how to do it.

DICE please just stop people from doing this altogether... because I for one will not miss it (and yes I know how and I've done it).... and it gives people an unfair advantage and lets them COMPLETELY bypass any level design (as in choke points, etc).

[ThirtyOughtSix]

I'm gonna do it because dice said its a legit tactic and if this is against any forum rules, please just delete post don't ban me or anything, I never post anything that is illegal...

Just point use the mouse to turn facing away from where you want to go than slowly move the mouse left and right keeping you rear facing the direction you want, and bam instant control of the pods, just takes some practice.

I really don't see why anyone has a problem with this, everyone can do it and if the sniper on the roof can see you, you can see him and shoot him. If he has a beacon on a roof you want to get rid of, have you SL place a beacon so you can get up there, knife em and take out their beacon or just have your SL ask the cmdr for a emp or orbital strike in the area and no more beacon.

Only thing with rooftops I have a problem with is guys that take advantage of FF off and RDX up there, thats weak and taking advantage of something that isn't supposed to be available.

Oh, Ferali, if he has a support on his team that pods on the roof with him, he resupplies the beacon, or asks cmdr for supply drop, than they just need someone on the ground to take out the old beacon, or shoot it from the roof.

I'm wondering, DID DICE actualy SAY this is a legitimate tactic? Please, somebody show me if they did, because all I remember is them saying it's fair to use the pods to GET ON TOP of buildings.... not use them to surf across half the maps or more....

[ThirtyOughtSix]

Given that EA say that using the spawn beacon to get to the top of a building is not against the rules, why wont anyone tell us how to 'surf' the pod ?.

The only thing I know is that it requires some changes to the sensitivity settings of certain navigation controls. I have my controls set at the maximum I can handle for CQ combat, so that is not an option for me :-)

BECAUSE DICE (it's DICE that says whats what, not EA) only said it was fair game to use them to get on top of buildings, NOT surf across half a map or more... which you can do with them. I've actually managed to get a beacon on top of those REALLY tall buildings on Fall of Berlin using this technique, and when it's that high up, it spawns you up higher, giving you even MORE time to "surf".... and when I have one up there, I can get ANYWHERE on the map when I pod drop in.. and most people cannot even get to my beacon.... or even realize I've put it up THAT high....

There is no "offical" answer from DICE about the surfing (or so that's what we are calling this now)... all I know is that if that's what DICE meant by when they said they fixed the pod "surfing".. then they where mistaken because you can still do it and it hasn't changed one bit since 1.1.

[Phenomenomenon]

I don't think Dice was talking about the technique you are describing using the squad becon.

I think the "surfing" they described in the last patch release, refers to when people used to take an EMP grenade to the otus knocking it on the ground. Once it was on the ground they would jump on top of it. It would then try to raise over the persons head, but being under their feet would raise them both into the air. Kinda like an Otus elevator.

[The_Eliminator]

I think its a fair tactic IMO, everyone can do it and so i dont see the problem, and pod drops are the easiest kills to get since the people coming out of them are so confused and disorientated.

[ColonelPanic]

I'm wondering, DID DICE actualy SAY this is a legitimate tactic? Please, somebody show me if they did, because all I remember is them saying it's fair to use the pods to GET ON TOP of buildings.... not use them to surf across half the maps or more....

Apparently they said podding onto a roof is legal but nothing about 'pod surfing' which I suspect is illegal as it is more of an exploit.

[COD_FILLETS]

SL beacon glitch is properlly still there.

I hope you mean probably Probably instead of Properly. Otherwise I believe it changes your meaning completely, unless you meant that it was always meant to be there.

[Buttoneer]

Nice vid of a glitcher in action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lHdwclJTw) but it doesn't describe how it's done so i think it's fine to post.

What this says to me is that it should be considered glitching and made illegal. But that doesn't stop me laughing at it. A lot.

[Pyr3x-BiGTiM3R]

I really don't care for the roof dwellers, but if your team has no flags and you're the only one left, you better hit the ground and try to cap something.