Kit scavenging and passive unlocks

[TheRealWolfgang]

How do these two things work together, anyway? I'm a big kit scavenger and I've noticed that sometimes I'll pick up a Zeller and it won't have the 4x scope, which is impossible since you have to unlock the scope to get the Zeller and it's a passive unlock so you can't de-select it or anything. Someone once told me that it was because I didn't have the scope unlocked, which sounded reasonable, except I just did the same thing a few days back and the Zeller I picked up still didn't have the 4x scope, which I've long since unlocked. But sometimes when I pick up a Zeller it does have it, but this leads me to thinking: Are all the passive unlocks, like the NetBat helmets, the hubs, the 4x scope, etc. tied to you when you spawn instead of to the kit you spawn with?

For example, if you decide to spawn as a recon with the Lambert, but you have the 4x scope unlocked (yes, I know it doesn't work with the Lambert) and then you pick up someone else's recon kit who has, say, a Zeller or Moretti, do are you able to use the 4x scope since it's a passive unlock tied to your soldier? What if the person whose kit you scavenged didn't have it unlocked, like a recruit that just picked up a Moretti...would I have the scope if I picked up his kit? Or if I were to spawn as assault instead, and then pick up a recon kit, would I not have the 4x scope since I didn't spawn with it? Same thing I've noticed with the med hub...sometimes when I pick up an enemy's kit to heal myself and I notice they have the Voss, the healing will be so slow as though the advanced med hub isn't unlocked, but obviously if he's got the Voss he'd have to have the advanced hub.

I hope that made at least some sense. :p Anyone else notice this? Or is this common knowledge by now?

~Wolfgang

[cc//Ollie90]

Yeah I'm guessing the guy you picked it up from didnt have the scope, because he picked the zeller up from someone else.

[Shada]

In my experience, passive unlocks have been tied to your class and not to your kit. The stabiliser also falls under the same rules, despite being an active unlock.

If I start with a Moretti, a Stabiliser, RDX actively selected and the Hi-Scope passively unlocked, and then I pick up another sniper's kit - I may end up with, say, a Park 52, RDX, APMs as well as the Hi-Scope and the Stabiliser from my old kit.

If I pick up an Assault kit, though, the stabiliser won't work with the assault rifle, and I won't get their advanced medhub and netbat helm if they had them unlocked.

So yeah. I think if you're playing Recon and have the hiscope, you'll be able to use the hiscope on any recon kit you pick up. Not sure if you had to have had a sniper rifle in your kit previously or not, though.

Or maybe I just dreamt all that. Wheee!

[Cann0n-Fodder]

I'm guessing its not possible to use the passives with scavenged kits as a balance factor? like it was intentionally done for balance?

I only scavenge kits for APMs and Sentry guns =P