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MouseNo4
03-15-2007, 01:30 AM
1. Keep the damn thing moving! You sit still for 5 seconds and someone will take a panel out with the rorsch or a pilum. If you need to stop to say, cap a flag or let someone catch up and get it, either move it back and forward quickly, or twist around back and forth.
2. Keep it resupplied! Those forward guns are awesome for taking infantry out, but with only 180 rounds for a vehicle that lasts a long time, it will run out of ammo real fast. Hell, be a support class player if need be and when you or the other blue pulse cannon are empty bail and dump an ammo box ahead of the goliath.
3. Never attempt to ram a vehicle. Just dont. For one its pointless as you do next to no damage to the enemy and it makes it harder for anyone to destroy it when there is 50 ton vehicle giving it a nice little push.
4. Motion mines are p--- weak against it, so if you see one, or even 50 of em in a pile, drive right up to them and explode them on the front bumper. They will do negligable damage to the goliath if they explode on the front.
5. The vehicle scanner can be placed on the goliath, but is of little use as its range is too small. But of course, feel free to put it on as any benefit will only be just that, benefit.
6. The infantry scanner on the other hand, is invaluable as so many engies and recons go after the goliaths panels that knowing when and where one is gives the gunners a chance to waste em before they even get close.

Feel free to add more yourself.

edward.81
03-15-2007, 01:47 AM
1)Dont camp inside goliath and let people respawn inside.
2)if you see a sniper dropping rdx on the panel and your gun can't kill it bail out and kill. don't wait that it destroy half of goliath panels
3)Near flag bail out and take them. goliath don have any magical item for taking the flag super fast.
4)Dont camp inside goliath JUMP OUT WHEN IS FULL !!!

PassTheChips
03-15-2007, 02:36 AM
Most important of all, keep infantry around to support it! If there's a recon that the gunners didn't see, feel free to take it for them.
Get snipers on top of the Goliath(or anywhere, top is best) and snipe down AT rocket guys that are out of gunners range.
Get a guided missle so you can take out the Rorcsh and not have to get the grenadiers attention.
Throw an MMB if there are a couple M.M's on the sides of the Goliath. Don't let the enemy use the M.M.B first!
Gunners, use your eyes. There could be A ghost recon RDXer that put the Ghost in your IDS 1's range. Same goes for you infantry, we gotta keep this thing movin'
Voila, intsa-pwned PAC side.

Heavy552 AWG
03-15-2007, 05:31 AM
They take out the panels anyway.

Stop for mines and such, allow your armor to regen after each hit and then move up a little bit.

Have a support drop a supply crate on top of the Goliath or ride with you inside and yer all set. Especially if that driver is a support.

Walker-tipping is the best way to get them out of the way.

50 mines = dead goliath. Stay put until the engineer that owns em gets killed and the mines deleted by the server. Or have a friendly engineer bait them out of the way.

The Scanner is plenty big, vehicle or infantry. Red dots need to be taken care of immediately. Having all 4 of your gioliath gunners engage a single recon sneaking in from behind is a beautiful thing.

Heavy552 AWG
03-15-2007, 05:31 AM
Double posted, stupid server!

Dangerdog
03-15-2007, 09:11 AM
Don't be an ash and vote the driver off the server just because you think "you" can do a better job.

MouseNo4
03-15-2007, 09:38 AM
Stop for mines and such, allow your armor to regen after each hit and then move up a little bit.

Nope sorry, not needed. Hit em all on the front regardless of speed. If your in doubt i can make a bloody video of this fact.

Walker-tipping is the best way to get them out of the way.
This only sometimes works. At best you ensure that the enemy walker can not miss the panels. Good work.

50 mines = dead goliath. Stay put until the engineer that owns em gets killed and the mines deleted by the server. Or have a friendly engineer bait them out of the way.
Obviously this wasnt mean literally as i doubt the server could handle 50 motion mines. Regardless, take them on the front and the goliath is as right as rain.

The Scanner is plenty big, vehicle or infantry. Red dots need to be taken care of immediately. Having all 4 of your gioliath gunners engage a single recon sneaking in from behind is a beautiful thing.
Obviously you have not unlocked the vehicle scanner and actually tried it. Go and try it on the goliath yourself and come back for a re-post.

StormPirate
03-15-2007, 02:32 PM
Regardless of how good a driver you are, you will eventually lose regen panels. If you lose both panels on one side of the Goliath, then try to keep that side towards the enemy from that point on. This will allow the hull to shield your remaining panels from the enemy, and keep them from being destroyed.

civilengdog
03-15-2007, 04:32 PM
If its full, walk right behind the Goliath. The health "box" on the Goliath will make you almost invincible. I had a guy walk right up to me and try to take me out with his pistol. He unloaded his entire clip into me and didn't even take a 1/4 of my health b/c the Goliath healed me so fast!

RangerXML
03-15-2007, 04:33 PM
The guns in the front have splash damage, us them to scan the area for ppl hiding behind ledges and let em have it.

The MM mine that the Goliath has explodes after a short while and can kill Infantry, so use 'em.

While caping a flag please get out to allow others to spawn on the Goliath and Repair/Resupply it.

Don't play Recon while driving or gunning for the Goliath, your team needs AMMO/HEALTH/REPAIRS alot more then some one usless taking up a valuble seat. Plus you get points.

MM suck, ramming them dosn't always mean the Goliath is going to be alright. It will take damage from a ram, thus to many mines = dead IFV. I 5 mines hit your front bumper all at once, you still loose about 3/4 of your health (thats enough for any half ars attempt to succeed afterward). One at a time can help, but leaves you open for Recon/Engineers.

Minmaster
03-15-2007, 05:06 PM
might help to drive backwards if your back panels are busted in order to not expose your remaning panels.

RENEGADESCAR11
03-15-2007, 07:03 PM
Driving backwards is a bad idea whine I go to kill a goliath i get on the rail then drop MM behind it it loses 3.5/4 of its health then I just take it out with my pilum repair cells or not whine your that low on health you will die then i get the smart one that have snipers make it so I can get up there the goliath its a IFV its best with other ppl on the ground helping it if you dont have any then your as good as dead. on other maps any place that is hight is good the guns on the goliath can only go up so hight

[TW] Alixsar
03-15-2007, 07:08 PM
The most important rule of all:

Don't whore the Goliath.

Drevor
03-15-2007, 07:12 PM
Goliath tip #184:
Spawn as a Engineer, take a APC and stay close behind the Goliath.
Not only will they constantly repair each other, but you will also protect the rear panels. Plus, the APC gunner is, thanks to its splash damage, very well suited to take out soldiers and Speeders.

Goliath tip #185:
If someone trails you with their APC dont f*cking drive backwards or, worse, turn around. Just keep driving!

Dangerdog
03-15-2007, 07:36 PM
Alixsar;288712']The most important rule of all:

Don't whore the Goliath.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. People whore the Goliath because of that stupid ribbon, X number of hours in the Goliath.

Hathegkla
03-15-2007, 07:42 PM
5. The vehicle scanner can be placed on the goliath, but is of little use as its range is too small. But of course, feel free to put it on as any benefit will only be just that, benefit.

what?

CRIMS0N_W0LF
03-16-2007, 10:10 AM
Actually I disagree with MM. If you see MM reverse let the engineer remove them. MM greatly remove repair pannels.

Also to all vechiles. If motion mines are attracted to you moving backwards does NOT work you have to STOP and remove them

JackG2
03-16-2007, 10:55 AM
Quick question about the Goliath. Can enemies steal your Goliath if you get out of it?

Buttoneer
03-16-2007, 01:56 PM
Nope. PAC can't get in at all.

[56AB]D|Pvt.Jones
03-16-2007, 03:50 PM
Gunners in the front two turrets need to realize one thing: THEY HAVE LIMITED AMMO!

I can't stand it when we're not even out of the EU base, and the two gunners are firing wildly at nothing. By the time we get to the first PAC flag, they're half empty of ammo already. WHY do people shoot at nothing? The only weapon on the Goliath that damages walkers and other vehicles is the MM launcher. (Well, the front turrets do splashdamage to the guys driving the speeders, but that's about it).

JackG2
03-16-2007, 05:11 PM
I can't stand it when we're not even out of the EU base, and the two gunners are firing wildly at nothing. By the time we get to the first PAC flag, they're half empty of ammo already. WHY do people shoot at nothing?

It's cause the Goliath is slow as Christmas, and most people get bored waiting for it to get to some action, so they just fire at random things.

Trippet
03-16-2007, 09:12 PM
I'm happy to say that during my first 8 minutes in the Goliath last night I never stayed in it if it was full, even if I had to give up one of the cannons. I'd hop out when it was full and nothing much to shoot at, cover it on foot for a while, then hop back in to see if it was still full, etc.

Gunners in the front two turrets need to realize one thing: THEY HAVE LIMITED AMMO!

I can't stand it when we're not even out of the EU base, and the two gunners are firing wildly at nothing. By the time we get to the first PAC flag, they're half empty of ammo already.
On the other hand, drivers need to realize that their gunners have limited ammo and to occasionally park next to a supply crate (or have DICE give us in-vehicle VOIP so we can ask him to do so). Last night the driver of the Goliath I was in was just completely parked on a flag we already owned, then would venture out a few feet, then back up, never really going anywhere. We were repelling assaults on the Goliath/flag very well, but I was running out of ammo, with two supply crates right around the corner, just out of rearm range! I text chatted twice to go over there, but he never read them. The gunners ran dry, we bailed and tried to defend it on foot but he never went anywhere (and never got out of the driver's seat), and eventually it got destroyed.

PassTheChips
03-17-2007, 12:38 AM
I hate this fact. About 99.9999999999999999999999999% of the time the Goliath is destroyed is because some retard that's driving and he doesn't listen to other people. Remember this was supposed to be DICE saying teamwork?:confused:They are the one's that give it a bad rep. And the noobs that just whore it for the badge. I hope their on the PAC so I can shoot em' in the Goliath:ar15: . If we made a clan of everybody that knew how to play the Goliath, it'd be a small one. Everyone here knows how to do it so I'll throw this out, want to make a clan devoted to the Goliath?

Drevor
03-17-2007, 12:53 AM
If DICE only added seat 6 (and 7) to the Goliath. Just seats, nothing but that, no guns or anything. That way the damn thing would do what its (per description) supposed to do - serve as a mobile spawn point and provide shelter for foot soldiers.
Really neat thing would be if those two extra seats had pods. The jump height should be something between the APC default height and the Titan jump height.

Btw ... its not always the Goliath driver when the attack just fails. Yesterday - Liberation of Leipzig - I took the seat and made it all the way to the base in your very first push. Along the way we took all the needed flags but by the time we got to the PAC base the other 27 player of my team actually managed to loose all but one flag. I made a turn to recapture but by that time the PAC team finally realized that there is something big and bulky crawling between the last two Rorsch guns. Didnt take too long until our beefed up APC blew up.

PassTheChips
03-17-2007, 01:00 AM
Did you have infantry protecting you? Your supposed to have engys with Mitchell to take care of those things. Your supposed to have snipers to shoot people from long range. Your supposed to have assault to defib anybody that dies. Your supposed to have support to ressupply the Goliath. Two engys, one sniper, one assault, and one support make the Goliath really the soldiers best freind.

Heavy552 AWG
03-17-2007, 02:14 AM
Nope sorry, not needed. Hit em all on the front regardless of speed. If your in doubt i can make a bloody video of this fact.


::SNIP::

Obviously you have not unlocked the vehicle scanner and actually tried it. Go and try it on the goliath yourself and come back for a re-post.

Look up my stats for 30 seconds and read out loud each of my unlocks, I have all of them but one the engineer 4th clip unlock.

THEN come back here and post your apologies for being such a dummy for polluting without first checking.

Im talking specificially about the infanty. The engineer PDA is useful on speeders against other vehicles in combat simlar to what gunships vs gunship would be like.

Regarding the other posters about ammo. The supply box should be dropped on TOP of the goliath along with the Infantry PDA finder. That way all the gun stations resupply themselves when out of ammo.

NOOBS... STOP SHOOTING AT NOTHING BECAUSE YOU GET BORED AND SLEEPY in the goliath.

I recall another game years ago where we discussed putting in a Helicopter Pilot's Weapons Override to prevent anyone from firing the mini guns until the Pilot approves the action. Maybe something like that should be fitted to the Goliath's driver.

Namakan
03-18-2007, 06:50 AM
Look up my stats for 30 seconds and read out loud each of my unlocks, I have all of them but one the engineer 4th clip unlock.

THEN come back here and post your apologies for being such a dummy for polluting without first checking.

:blabla: (Snipped)

I recall another game years ago where we discussed putting in a Helicopter Pilot's Weapons Override to prevent anyone from firing the mini guns until the Pilot approves the action. Maybe something like that should be fitted to the Goliath's driver.

That is stupid The Goliath pilot would never turn the guns on so he could get all the kills. or forget to turn them back on in a firefight.

And leave MouseNo4 alone. He knows more than you.

Sw1tch
03-18-2007, 03:29 PM
I found the best way to take care of motion mines is to approach them slowly, and let them hit you one at a time.


This way in between hits you have a chance to regen.

Heavy552 AWG
03-18-2007, 04:35 PM
That is stupid The Goliath pilot would never turn the guns on so he could get all the kills. or forget to turn them back on in a firefight.

And leave MouseNo4 alone. He knows more than you.


:blabla:

Mr.Bubbles43
03-18-2007, 08:38 PM
:blabla:

Actually he was right about all of the things that would happen if DICE did what you told them to. :rolleyes:

MouseNo4
03-19-2007, 09:28 AM
Look up my stats for 30 seconds and read out loud each of my unlocks, I have all of them but one the engineer 4th clip unlock.

THEN come back here and post your apologies for being such a dummy for polluting without first checking.

::SNIP::


Hate to tell you, but i couldnt care less about what unlocks you have. Clearly you havent much experience in using the goliath with the vehicle scanner on. Otherwise you would retract your statement.

I agree that the scanner is very good for tanks and other vehicles as they have good speed and can actually use the scanner quite well.

The goliath however is so slow and cumbersome that it would need a vehicle scanner the size of a uav to be of any use.

Actually he was right about all of the things that would happen if DICE did what you told them to. :rolleyes:

QFT.