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Trippet
05-14-2007, 07:09 AM
Ok, I've now seen conclusive evidence that there's a way to drop down into the Titan vents and hit the ground already prone - thereby avoiding the detonation of that APM that's sitting there waiting for you. As we all know, when you drop in there, you enter freefall for just a split second (that's why you have to pull your gun back out again when you land), and typically that's what prevents you from being prone when you drop off the ledge and landing still prone. But there's obviously a way around that.

I was holding a vent for my squad to use as an entry, and watching the manhole. Right before my eyes, an enemy fell through and landed right in front of my APM, already prone when he hit the ground - no boom. 'Course, he didn't see my RDX on the roof - BOOM!

That was two nights ago. Then tonight, during the same round, two different guys did the same thing to me, only this time I was around the corner shooting into the cargo bay so I wasn't there to hit my RDX and I got killed. So obviously word is getting around. Anyone who knows care to share? PM me if you don't want to post it for all to see.

Thanks!

Vreki
05-14-2007, 08:30 AM
This is just a guess, but in the thread "Clear Out Vents with Sentry" (http://www.totalbf2142.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20873) it was shown how you can make a sentry land unharmed at the bottom of the vents.
It is done by bouncing the sentry of the sides of the vent, maybe something similar is possible with a soldier?

Ghiblian
05-14-2007, 08:42 AM
The technique is pretty close to that actually. I haven't done it in a while because now I have a new strategy for Titan vents (I won't reveal it just yet, you guys can keep playing with the sentry down the vents idea until I've exhausted my fun with this one). However, I used to be able to do this by proning and slowly crawling into the hole. I think the back of me hits something on the Titan before falling in, and I can usually press prone again to remain in that position. I'll go try it out again and tell you if it still works.

Trippet
05-14-2007, 02:00 PM
Thanks Ghiblian - looking forward to it, and I'll try it out myself tonight.

deadman2312
05-14-2007, 02:20 PM
Ok, I've now seen conclusive evidence that there's a way to drop down into the Titan vents and hit the ground already prone - thereby avoiding the detonation of that APM that's sitting there waiting for you. As we all know, when you drop in there, you enter freefall for just a split second (that's why you have to pull your gun back out again when you land), and typically that's what prevents you from being prone when you drop off the ledge and landing still prone. But there's obviously a way around that.

I was holding a vent for my squad to use as an entry, and watching the manhole. Right before my eyes, an enemy fell through and landed right in front of my APM, already prone when he hit the ground - no boom. 'Course, he didn't see my RDX on the roof - BOOM!

That was two nights ago. Then tonight, during the same round, two different guys did the same thing to me, only this time I was around the corner shooting into the cargo bay so I wasn't there to hit my RDX and I got killed. So obviously word is getting around. Anyone who knows care to share? PM me if you don't want to post it for all to see.

Thanks!


Welcome to 6 months ago.:yay: :dead: :shakehead:

Trippet
05-14-2007, 08:26 PM
Welcome to 6 months ago.:yay: :dead: :shakehead:

Um. Thanks. I guess. :rolleyes:

Cap`N Hagen
05-14-2007, 08:37 PM
I have done it on occasion, although I`ve tried to do it everytime.
You still get the few millisecond delay before you can fire at the op4 who is guaranteed to be standing there with his smg.

Trippet
05-24-2007, 02:48 PM
I'm going to resurrect this week-old thread in the hopes that someone I've helped out before on this forum will take pity on this dumba$$ who can figure out everything else in this game but can't make this work. <cue laughter from 14-year-olds who know how this works>

I spent an hour in an empty local server last night podding to the rear of the Titan and trying every approach and key combination I could think of, to no avail.
Be prone, then drop, press prone again just as you're about to hit bottom. Nope.
Crawl in sideways, hold a strafe key on the way down to try to scrape the side, press prone again almost at the bottom. Nope.
Jump across the hole, bump against the wall on the way down, press prone again almost at the bottom. Nope.
Jump into the hole, pressing prone in midair, hope I'll land already prone. Nope.
etc. etc. etc.
<cue more laughter and incomprehensible leet-speak insults>

I'd seen indications that a few people could do this a long time ago, but in the last two weeks it seems like the word is out and there's been a hundred-fold increase. Anyone care to share? :salute:

WileECyte
05-24-2007, 02:53 PM
Have you checked YouTube? When glitches and tricks are widespread, there's usually a video up on YouTube showing how it's done.

Trippet
05-24-2007, 03:14 PM
Hmm - thanks, WileECyte. I'll look, but I don't really consider it a glitch, just a certain technique to make it happen. Kinda like "how do you make the gunship do a barrel roll?" You have to know what keys to hold when and how to move your mouse, but it can be done if you know that technique (not that I know how, I suck at flying).

BandoIruka
05-24-2007, 03:19 PM
with motion mine bait getting more popular, im surprised people are still putting APMs there. Other than that, I have no idea how to do it either and would like to know how. Any tibit of info to have the edge over whatever funny business the enemy might pull on you.

s4biturbo
05-24-2007, 03:23 PM
try and land while pressing crouch then prone, i don't seem to have any issues landing crouched and then going prone. you should still avoid getting blown to bits from any APM's. RDX on the other hand, well if hes paying attention, you're done.

Trippet
05-24-2007, 03:28 PM
try and land while pressing crouch then prone, i don't seem to have any issues landing crouched and then going prone. you should still avoid getting blown to bits from any APM's.

Thanks for the reply. I tried that as well, and it seemed that no matter when during the descent I pressed (and held) crouch, I always landed standing up, and had to release and re-press crouch to actually crouch. I always thought it had something to do with the split-second that you enter free-fall (and you put your gun away) - that that split-second erases what posture you were in prior to entering free-fall.

BandoIruka
05-24-2007, 03:47 PM
I didn't know that support sentries can set off APMs. If you can perfect the prone falling technique, you can do a sentry + IDS shield combo and land prone behind it

Trippet
05-24-2007, 03:52 PM
I've heard they do, but I've seen them drop in and NOT set them off. Plus, there's a technique to dropping the sentry into the vent where it scrapes along the walls and doesn't blow up at the bottom. The theory is that dropping prone into the vents has something to do with that - scraping the walls or something.

BandoIruka
05-24-2007, 03:58 PM
try mashing/spamming the Z and ctrl keys while scraping and see what happens

Ghiblian
05-24-2007, 06:46 PM
Oops. I completely forgot about this thread. Well, I've tried over and over again... and can't seem to do it. Maybe it's just lag. I've dropped into vents a couple times where I would just find myself running forward really fast, right past the APMs.

jake___
05-24-2007, 08:46 PM
I have no clue if its possible. Like Ghiblian said, it could just be lag.

Maybe you have to jump so you hit one of the walls when falling down the vent. At the same time, or before/after, you might hit z and go prone, thus landing prone.

Does that sound possible? I'll have to play around with it the next time I play and feel like fooling around. :p

Trippet
05-25-2007, 02:17 PM
Well I tried this again for a while last night, and although I did discover that you can jump, go prone in midair (you can tell 'cause there's a shift in the image on the screen that happens), and you'll land prone (is this what the BF2 vets call "dolphin-diving"? I never stuck with BF2, was a late arriver and switched to 2142 right away), for some reason it doesn't work when falling into the vents. I jumped towards the hole, hit prone and noticed the screen movement that indicates you're prone, but then as I kept falling I landed standing up, every time. I still think it has something to do with that split-second of free-fall that happens - it takes you out of whatever posture you're in and returns you to "standing up".

Which leads me to two conclusions of how to make this work:
1) All it takes is impeccably precise timing to press prone in the 4.5862-microsecond window of time between coming out of free-fall and actually landing, or
2) There's some way to prevent going into free-fall in the first place (hence the theories about scraping/rubbing the sides on the way down).

Anyone else have any better luck than me last night?

s4biturbo
05-25-2007, 03:41 PM
Well I tried this again for a while last night, and although I did discover that you can jump, go prone in midair (you can tell 'cause there's a shift in the image on the screen that happens), and you'll land prone (is this what the BF2 vets call "dolphin-diving"? I never stuck with BF2, was a late arriver and switched to 2142 right away), for some reason it doesn't work when falling into the vents. I jumped towards the hole, hit prone and noticed the screen movement that indicates you're prone, but then as I kept falling I landed standing up, every time. I still think it has something to do with that split-second of free-fall that happens - it takes you out of whatever posture you're in and returns you to "standing up".

Which leads me to two conclusions of how to make this work:
1) All it takes is impeccably precise timing to press prone in the 4.5862-microsecond window of time between coming out of free-fall and actually landing, or
2) There's some way to prevent going into free-fall in the first place (hence the theories about scraping/rubbing the sides on the way down).

Anyone else have any better luck than me last night?

with getting chased by XslaneyX last night i didn't even get a chance to get into titan mode, hopefully i will get some time in over the weekend and i will see what i can come up with.

Wizrdwarts
05-25-2007, 10:42 PM
Wait, so when they fall prone in the vent do you see them prone in midair or do you see them prone instantly after hitting the ground without mines going off?

Trippet
05-26-2007, 03:18 AM
As far as I can see (and I have on multiple occasions watched people do this in real-time), they appear to be already prone (while falling) from the first instant I can see them.

H_Gilmore_2005
05-26-2007, 03:34 AM
has anyone tried jumping forward and in mid air press prone? then fall into the vent? I havent had time to try get a solution today as I had to bloody drive 200 miles to pick sum1 up!! Curse them!!

hope to add sowt concrete in the next few days :)

Vikaman
05-26-2007, 03:37 AM
Well now if you guys haven't noticed, proning into the vent (right hand side), and moving in, sometimes gets you killed.

Trippet
05-26-2007, 07:29 AM
H_Gilmore, yes, that's exactly what I was talking about in post #19 above. I obviously just don't know what the right timing is, or something like that.

H_Gilmore_2005
05-28-2007, 01:34 AM
Hmmmm...i've been trying too m8 but it just seems that theres no answer to this problem at all!!! :cry:

s4biturbo
05-28-2007, 03:30 AM
well i had someone do it right in front on me today and avoid my apm, got em with my lambert though... fell right onto the ground prone. appeared as he was very close if not scraping the wall on the way down.

Wizrdwarts
05-28-2007, 03:32 AM
Well maybe next time you can message them and see if they're willing to give up their secret.

Vikaman
05-28-2007, 03:48 AM
I get into the titan vent sometimes as prone, I usually go to the edge, and prone into the vent, and sometimes land prone.

Lt Davis
05-28-2007, 05:16 AM
I usually can get into the vent by running in as fast as I can. You almost always scrape the front edge, and run right past the APMs and RDX. If they have a sentry gun though...

Trippet
05-30-2007, 05:54 PM
Well once again I played a bunch of Assault Lines the last couple nights and didn't have a chance to try this again. Anyone play any Titan and able to figure this out?