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Advaned
06-11-2007, 06:45 AM
I'm okay at 2142.
But I rock at one thing
Dying.
Seriously.
I'm playing a assault,With the medic upgrades etc..But I'm still dying non stop..

Could someone give me any tips?

Its as if someone ALWAYS sees me and kills me first.

Guldur
06-11-2007, 07:11 AM
I think the keyword to this is situational awareness. Don't rush into an incautious death. It's always important to know where good cover can be found and stick to those places. Often there will be no other way than running through the open (like crossing a street) but elsewise I mostly try to move along buildings, walls, etc. When trying to spot the enemy before he spots you, the general flow of the game must be considered. Avoid the obvious routes and ambush those who don't. :ar15:

Also, it seems that playing in a squad or with people you know, helps ceeping that soldier alive, because they are more likely to rezz you. Those lone wolfs won't get any second chance(s) on the battlefield!

Those deaths, when you die without having seen the enemy at all, are the worst. I know I have done something wrong when that happens. It's totally different from losing a direct confrontation (happens to everybody), and is most annoying. :)

Crisis
06-11-2007, 07:17 AM
I'm okay at 2142.
But I rock at one thing
Dying.
Seriously.
I'm playing a assault,With the medic upgrades etc..But I'm still dying non stop..

Could someone give me any tips?

Its as if someone ALWAYS sees me and kills me first.

Remember, you're not Chuck Norris and YOU CANNOT dodge bullets.

Just try to hide behind cover as much as you can and be aware of your surroundings.

Killerus
06-11-2007, 07:19 AM
never blindly run anywhere! always look in all directions before you leave or enter any location where there could be enemy. This means everywhere you go :) Cover is also a major part of staying alive. Always use buildings, crates, fences or anything else to keep you out of the enemies view as well as fire range. Lastly never ever stay in one spot for too long and always look behind you. You never know when that knife is gonna get you :nod:

Micster
06-11-2007, 08:07 AM
Take cover!

Don't be suicidal.

Stick with a squad. They should revive you when you're down, heal you when you're hurt, resupply you when you're out of ammo, and such.

Practice. Online or Offline, it doesn't matter, as long as you get better. Maybe watch some frag videos and see how some people do it.

UNATCOII
06-11-2007, 08:27 AM
I'm okay at 2142.
But I rock at one thing
Dying.
Seriously.
I'm playing a assault,With the medic upgrades etc..But I'm still dying non stop..

Switch to Support, you'll survive longer. This also has the benefit for you to learn what works and what doesn't (especially in conquest), while racking up team points so your time isn't wasted. You'll learn which areas are mostly safe; which to avoid for explosives and snipers; and where the good points are, as those who went before you learned them.

Once you get to know the maps, routes, chokepoints and perches, then switch to Assault, BUT play defender first. I don't recommend playing attacker until you unlocked the Baur or Voss (Baur first, then Voss -- because as a defender the Baur rules [serves both as a sniper rifle, and a sure way to defend yourself against a Voss player]). Unlock the Voss, last, since by then you'll be itching to play flag defender and/or be an ichiban capper.

Twlight
06-11-2007, 08:56 AM
Game Tips
• Rule 1: Shoot the other guy.
• Rule 2: Don't die.
• Rule 3: Follow Rules 1 & 2.

abort
06-11-2007, 08:58 AM
learn the maps

TrooperJac
06-11-2007, 09:12 AM
With the prevalance on UAV, IDS on the field now and especially on large servers I think constant death is just a fact of life :D

Personally I think the game would be better if things were a little more surviveable. What really grates on me is when you find yourself under fire and dive around a corner only to die when you not in line of sight. That is annoying.

Often I feel I'm getting slaughtered and then look at the scoreboard to see I'm winning so I guess it's the same for everyone. This is my first online FPS and I have just managed to get my KD ratio over 1 so if I kill more than die I'm happy.

Eukament
06-11-2007, 09:15 AM
CHECK RADAR OFTEN!

Know where you are, where your team is and where the enemy is comming from on the battlefield. Feel the flow of the battle, are you gaining or loosing ground, is this a good time to advance or withdraw?

Take a moment now and then and look around you, what do you see?

:salute:

Bubas
06-11-2007, 11:30 AM
Inafantary:
-Don´t rush to anywhere.
-Don´t fight in the open, try to find allways a place where you cand duck or hide.
-If you use the crouch key a crate and the mouse button 1, you can destroy a whole squad if they are in the open.
-If you are going to cap a silo, try to see if there is any enemy near it, never ever run to cap it.
-If you are capping a silo and kill someone, that guy is going to pop near you in abaut 15 seconds so try to move to a position where he doesn´t expect you.

Tank:
-Don´t try to cap a silo with a tank if you are alone, one shot from an engie and you are history.
-If you can, be allways near an APC (emp), a Apc and a tank can wreak havock in a battlefield.
-Never stop with the tank, a stoped tank is an invitation to be killed in one shot.
-Try to allways know where the gunship is, the tank is a fantastic AA gun, but you must be aware of it´s location.
-Use the telescope to know where your enemies are.

All:
As someone saide before never rush, try to understand the flow of the battlefield, then commit. And you must know where you are in a no win situation, run and hide when the odds are stacked against you.

Mr_Zaz
06-11-2007, 12:55 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, the number one way to survive....


Be the third guy to the fight.


Sure sometimes, your guy will kill the enemy (in which case heal him) and sometime the enemy will kill your guy (in which case, off the wounded enemy and rez your guy) either way you get experience and a nice sideline in teamwork (points).

Of course, once you learn the maps and the other tips in this thread become second nature become the first guy to the fight and pwn all....

RMcLeod
06-11-2007, 01:03 PM
I know it's difficult on pub servers, but try to find a squad that's working together, stick with that squad and you'll learn a lot from them.

Lunien
06-11-2007, 01:53 PM
Use cover and travel in a group. If alone...find a cover...dash to the next, scan your surroundings, then dash to the next cover. Always watch your minimap, that way you're less likely to get jumped on. Try not to be the first one to a firefight, be one of middle few to arrive. Just play more and you'll get a hang of it.

Trippet
06-11-2007, 02:33 PM
learn the maps
^^^
The single best recommendation. Target acquisition and recognition was always my weak point, and gave me more "what the heck killed me/where the heck was that guy" deaths than would be considered normal. Knowing the maps and being able to deduce where guys will be/where they'll be coming from is 100% key.

After that, stick with a squad, help them out so they'll help you out, and - another brilliant insight above - be the third guy to the battle.

dontsh000t
06-11-2007, 02:44 PM
just die more =D
seriously. i know it sounds weird, but just keep at it. i used to die without firing a shot a lot, but now i'm the one running around killing everything =D takes awhile to get used to the maps, the hiding spots, and soon you'll just know where to fire and recognise the uniforms a lot easier.

Ezekiel
06-11-2007, 02:46 PM
Game Tips
• Rule 1: Shoot the other guy.
• Rule 2: Don't die.
• Rule 3: Follow Rules 1 & 2.

These are the best tips :p

But yea as people have said, learning the maps is a big advantage, knowing where the high traffic areas are etc, and using all your equipment to your advantage, remember you have grenades to take out multiple enemies and people in those hard to reach areas

DaBigCheese
06-11-2007, 03:08 PM
2 things you need ...
1) IDS-1 (the human radar)
2) Clark shotty

may add a few nades , but i prefer to pop out and blast that unexpected dude .
Optional tools
1.Turret - just for annoyance and a few lucky kills .
2.Emp nades - to give yourself a little chance when facing vehicle , and hope the driver is dumb enough to hop out and take the blast like a man .

Firestorm
06-11-2007, 03:14 PM
2 things you need ...
1) IDS-1 (the human radar)
2) Clark shotty

may add a few nades , but i prefer to pop out and blast that unexpected dude .
Optional tools
1.Turret - just for annoyance and a few lucky kills .
2.Emp nades - to give yourself a little chance when facing vehicle , and hope the driver is dumb enough to hop out and take the blast like a man .

Actually the A12 can kill very efficently. Sometimes on the game I see it kill three people in sucession

Biotech2142
06-11-2007, 04:18 PM
Many players ignore the advantage in having a 5.1 surround system or headset.

My three main ways to detect the enemy are:

1. Minimap
2. Sounds from a 5.1 headphones
3. NetBat diamonds

Sometimes I find a sniper by just following the sound or I get aware of a gunship in my surroundings when I hear the engine and nothing shows on minimap.

Few days ago I was defending an uncap from constant rapes attempts and thanks to the rear speakers I was able to hear someone moving while prone behind me, when I turned, it was someone with knife on hand with very evil intentions :shock:

Archangell
06-11-2007, 04:34 PM
It really is all about learning the maps. I play a lot of camp G. You learn to love that place. Depending on how the enemy is advancing or where my squad/teamates are, you really get a good feel for where the enemy is. You just need to play a bunch to get used to the good spots. Don't be crazy and run out in the open and start firing. Always keep cover and ..a loaded gun. I find a bunch of people I run into reloading in the open and get blasted to hell for being stupid.

The_Eliminator
06-11-2007, 04:50 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, the number one way to survive....


Be the third guy to the fight.


Sure sometimes, your guy will kill the enemy (in which case heal him) and sometime the enemy will kill your guy (in which case, off the wounded enemy and rez your guy) either way you get experience and a nice sideline in teamwork (points).

Of course, once you learn the maps and the other tips in this thread become second nature become the first guy to the fight and pwn all....

I agree with this a lot, you let your guy soften him up a little then die and then you go finish him off whilst hes reloading.

abort
06-11-2007, 11:08 PM
It really is all about learning the maps. I play a lot of camp G. You learn to love that place. Depending on how the enemy is advancing or where my squad/teamates are, you really get a good feel for where the enemy is. You just need to play a bunch to get used to the good spots. Don't be crazy and run out in the open and start firing. Always keep cover and ..a loaded gun. I find a bunch of people I run into reloading in the open and get blasted to hell for being stupid.

i'd like to think i know gibby pretty good as well but so does everyone haha

Diamond621
06-12-2007, 12:35 AM
Many players ignore the advantage in having a 5.1 surround system or headset.

My three main ways to detect the enemy are:

1. Minimap
2. Sounds from a 5.1 headphones
3. NetBat diamonds



Gaming is as much about using your ears in these days as it is using your eyes. A lot of people neglect the sound element, but sound technology in these days is becoming precise enough that it is a real weapon to the smart player who commits to utilizing it. 5.1 and above is a necessity, in speaker or headset form, for the best performance.

And finally, the best advice you can get for gaming, and for combat in general in any game:

Never be the first.

And never be the last.

In this is the wisdom of survival :)

UNATCOII
06-12-2007, 05:26 AM
Gaming is as much about using your ears in these days as it is using your eyes.

That is until the game has...

1. 200m away explosions with 50m explosions sounding at the same time, blaring out the chance to here local movement/rifle shots.
2. VOIP is abused to play music.
3. VOIP is abused by 2 "old ladies" who think it's a social mechanism, and chit chat for 30+ minutes with it.
4. Silent camo (becoming more and more common now).
5. Aimbotted grenades (becoming more and more common now).

Diamond621
06-12-2007, 05:40 AM
That is until the game has...

1. 200m away explosions with 50m explosions sounding at the same time, blaring out the chance to here local movement/rifle shots.
2. VOIP is abused to play music.
3. VOIP is abused by 2 "old ladies" who think it's a social mechanism, and chit chat for 30+ minutes with it.
4. Silent camo (becoming more and more common now).
5. Aimbotted grenades (becoming more and more common now).

1) Never experienced this using an X-Fi on 5.1. Able to judge distance within a few meters and direction from audio cues without much of a problem. Of course, using audio effectively, just like using video effectively, is often proportional to the quality of your hardware.

2) Never heard this, but I can believe it. I just mute people who abuse VOIP, and the problem is solved.

3) Mute them.

4) Seen it a handful of times. 9 times out of 10 I spot camo based on visual cues anyways - not a very substantial advantage.

5) Doesn't seem like an aimbot would do a whole lot for a grenade throw given the need for distance-related arcing and flight time. But hey, some strange things happen in this game.

UNATCOII
06-12-2007, 08:38 AM
1) Never experienced this using an X-Fi on 5.1.

Understand not everyone wants to blow $150 on audio just for gaming. It's a pasttime for most, not a career.

2) Never heard this, but I can believe it. I just mute people who abuse VOIP, and the problem is solved.

3) Mute them.

Then mute intel as well.

4) Seen it a handful of times. 9 times out of 10 I spot camo based on visual cues anyways - not a very substantial advantage.

Not how they're doing it. You can't even spot them. All you know is that you were dead (usually by a knife). Zippy the RDX bunny is abusing this with abandon.

5) Doesn't seem like an aimbot would do a whole lot for a grenade throw given the need for distance-related arcing and flight time. But hey, some strange things happen in this game.

This is happening so much now it's crazy. Over a wall, and not once, not twice, three times of more -- despite changing location -- the grenade will land directly on you. In the open, the grenades fall without bounce, too. They simply land at your feet, right at your side, and on your head.

I've killed more with grenades than any other weapon, and KNOW grenades bounce when it hits the ground. These folks, nope, they're like sticky RDX -- it lands and stays, then explodes.

Ezekiel
06-13-2007, 07:47 PM
I agree with this a lot, you let your guy soften him up a little then die and then you go finish him off whilst hes reloading.

Thats just a pu$$y's was of fighting :p

Erhardt
06-13-2007, 08:48 PM
Learn to crouch when going around corners and blind spots and such. I'm playing recon on the same map you are, that's where I'm putting my APMs.

Because there's always somebody who's in a rush to get somewhere around that corner or blind spot, and all they find is their mortality instead. ;)

Just as a method of proving how useful this is... in ALL the time I've spent playing the game, I've managed to eke out a Kill/Death ratio of 1.62 for myself.

In that ratio, I've been killed by APMs 75 times. A generous portion of THAT is due to OTHER guys rushing around that corner I described above while I was trying to crouch past it.

Now, in the past two weeks I've ramped up my use of the recon class to nab some of the badges and pins and such... I only play maybe every other day for a few hours at a time (family man, you see). Right now I've got a grand total of a little over 11 hours as recon, but my APM KILLS are ALREADY at 116 (An APM Kill/Death ratio of 1.55).

11 hours. I've almost doubled my ratio of APM kills to deaths in 11 lousy hours (and mind you, when I started playing recon recently, my deaths by APMs were only up to 72).

What is this showing? A) Like I said, there is no shortage of players who are willing to rush in where angels fear to tread, and B) It's easy as pie to be an angel, just hit that Ctrl key when you're going around a corner. You'll live longer. ;)